Re: Test Results, Mike Romain, Chris, all
 

I don't know. How about fouling a plug every 15 to 30 miles?



"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
news:o3q030ppu0dl9k2fl10p9nqmupqao8lbr5@4ax.com...
> In message <c0mfde$18p5e3$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>, "William
Oliveri"
> wrote:

> If it runs OK, and you don't have a cloud of blue smoke following you
around,
> drive the GD thing and find something else to worry about.

Re: Test Results, Mike Romain, Chris, all
 

I don't know. How about fouling a plug every 15 to 30 miles?



"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
news:o3q030ppu0dl9k2fl10p9nqmupqao8lbr5@4ax.com...
> In message <c0mfde$18p5e3$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>, "William
Oliveri"
> wrote:

> If it runs OK, and you don't have a cloud of blue smoke following you
around,
> drive the GD thing and find something else to worry about.

Re: Test Results, Mike Romain, Chris, all
 

I don't know. How about fouling a plug every 15 to 30 miles?



"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
news:o3q030ppu0dl9k2fl10p9nqmupqao8lbr5@4ax.com...
> In message <c0mfde$18p5e3$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>, "William
Oliveri"
> wrote:

> If it runs OK, and you don't have a cloud of blue smoke following you
around,
> drive the GD thing and find something else to worry about.

Re: Test Results, Mike Romain, Chris, all
 

I don't know. I guess it depends on who is interpreting it as a fouled plug.
Seems to me that you spent over a month here complaining about a non existent
ping before this latest fiasco.

Oil on the threads is not a fouled spark plug. IF you were getting enough oil
on the plug to actually foul it in 15 to 30 miles, you would see smoke.

You said you just had it at JeepsRUs, but you didn't have him look at your spark
plug? He only put a DRB on it because that's all you wanted, right? This is
sounding more and more like the "ping" debacle.

The PCM monitors injector circuits electrically and will set a fault that can be
read by the DRB if it detects a malfunctioning injector CIRCUIT. It has no
idea at all if the injector is actually opening or closing.

The best you can hope for is a guess from anybody reading here. You had it to a
professional, but didn't let him diagnose your problem, or determine if there
actually is a problem.

One more thing. You do a compression test, leak down test, or whatever, and
you're doing it at the rate of one cylinder per day. Then you come here and
start a new thread every time you post something, you make it very difficult for
anyone to go back and see what's been done so they don't end up telling you what
you have already heard/ignored/missed/not understood.

Fiasco...



In message <c0prt8$1a7ud7$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>, "William Oliveri"
wrote:

>I don't know. How about fouling a plug every 15 to 30 miles?
>
>
>
>"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
>news:o3q030ppu0dl9k2fl10p9nqmupqao8lbr5@4ax.com.. .
>> In message <c0mfde$18p5e3$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>, "William
>Oliveri"
>> wrote:
>
>> If it runs OK, and you don't have a cloud of blue smoke following you
>around,
>> drive the GD thing and find something else to worry about.
>

Re: Test Results, Mike Romain, Chris, all
 

I don't know. I guess it depends on who is interpreting it as a fouled plug.
Seems to me that you spent over a month here complaining about a non existent
ping before this latest fiasco.

Oil on the threads is not a fouled spark plug. IF you were getting enough oil
on the plug to actually foul it in 15 to 30 miles, you would see smoke.

You said you just had it at JeepsRUs, but you didn't have him look at your spark
plug? He only put a DRB on it because that's all you wanted, right? This is
sounding more and more like the "ping" debacle.

The PCM monitors injector circuits electrically and will set a fault that can be
read by the DRB if it detects a malfunctioning injector CIRCUIT. It has no
idea at all if the injector is actually opening or closing.

The best you can hope for is a guess from anybody reading here. You had it to a
professional, but didn't let him diagnose your problem, or determine if there
actually is a problem.

One more thing. You do a compression test, leak down test, or whatever, and
you're doing it at the rate of one cylinder per day. Then you come here and
start a new thread every time you post something, you make it very difficult for
anyone to go back and see what's been done so they don't end up telling you what
you have already heard/ignored/missed/not understood.

Fiasco...



In message <c0prt8$1a7ud7$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>, "William Oliveri"
wrote:

>I don't know. How about fouling a plug every 15 to 30 miles?
>
>
>
>"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
>news:o3q030ppu0dl9k2fl10p9nqmupqao8lbr5@4ax.com.. .
>> In message <c0mfde$18p5e3$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>, "William
>Oliveri"
>> wrote:
>
>> If it runs OK, and you don't have a cloud of blue smoke following you
>around,
>> drive the GD thing and find something else to worry about.
>

Re: Test Results, Mike Romain, Chris, all
 

I don't know. I guess it depends on who is interpreting it as a fouled plug.
Seems to me that you spent over a month here complaining about a non existent
ping before this latest fiasco.

Oil on the threads is not a fouled spark plug. IF you were getting enough oil
on the plug to actually foul it in 15 to 30 miles, you would see smoke.

You said you just had it at JeepsRUs, but you didn't have him look at your spark
plug? He only put a DRB on it because that's all you wanted, right? This is
sounding more and more like the "ping" debacle.

The PCM monitors injector circuits electrically and will set a fault that can be
read by the DRB if it detects a malfunctioning injector CIRCUIT. It has no
idea at all if the injector is actually opening or closing.

The best you can hope for is a guess from anybody reading here. You had it to a
professional, but didn't let him diagnose your problem, or determine if there
actually is a problem.

One more thing. You do a compression test, leak down test, or whatever, and
you're doing it at the rate of one cylinder per day. Then you come here and
start a new thread every time you post something, you make it very difficult for
anyone to go back and see what's been done so they don't end up telling you what
you have already heard/ignored/missed/not understood.

Fiasco...



In message <c0prt8$1a7ud7$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>, "William Oliveri"
wrote:

>I don't know. How about fouling a plug every 15 to 30 miles?
>
>
>
>"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
>news:o3q030ppu0dl9k2fl10p9nqmupqao8lbr5@4ax.com.. .
>> In message <c0mfde$18p5e3$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>, "William
>Oliveri"
>> wrote:
>
>> If it runs OK, and you don't have a cloud of blue smoke following you
>around,
>> drive the GD thing and find something else to worry about.
>

Re: Test Results, Mike Romain, Chris, all
 

You know, I could have been less of a person and never told of the results
when I took it to a couple of places to diagnosis the "ping" problem but I'm
not that way. I post what I have learned and results I have found and I
know others have learned from my posts either what to do or what not to do.
It's all good in the end. You jump in the middle and cry at my
methodologies but don't suggest or outline the "proper" way of doing it from
the git go. You have not suggested one thing since I presented the problems
of blue smoke. Not before changing the valve seals, not after. Not one.
Then you come off as an angry little man with your responses. I think you
need some anger management. Perhaps you should see a therapist.


My thanks to Bill, Mike, Chris and all the rest for their great help.


Bill




"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
news:b24230lf0jbds00j9n9oitf112guq2i86n@4ax.com...
> I don't know. I guess it depends on who is interpreting it as a fouled
plug.
> Seems to me that you spent over a month here complaining about a non
existent
> ping before this latest fiasco.
>
> Oil on the threads is not a fouled spark plug. IF you were getting enough
oil
> on the plug to actually foul it in 15 to 30 miles, you would see smoke.
>
> You said you just had it at JeepsRUs, but you didn't have him look at your
spark
> plug? He only put a DRB on it because that's all you wanted, right? This
is
> sounding more and more like the "ping" debacle.
>
> The PCM monitors injector circuits electrically and will set a fault that
can be
> read by the DRB if it detects a malfunctioning injector CIRCUIT. It has
no
> idea at all if the injector is actually opening or closing.
>
> The best you can hope for is a guess from anybody reading here. You had
it to a
> professional, but didn't let him diagnose your problem, or determine if
there
> actually is a problem.
>
> One more thing. You do a compression test, leak down test, or whatever,
and
> you're doing it at the rate of one cylinder per day. Then you come here
and
> start a new thread every time you post something, you make it very
difficult for
> anyone to go back and see what's been done so they don't end up telling
you what
> you have already heard/ignored/missed/not understood.
>
> Fiasco...
>
>
>
> In message <c0prt8$1a7ud7$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>, "William
Oliveri"
> wrote:
>
> >I don't know. How about fouling a plug every 15 to 30 miles?
> >
> >
> >
> >"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
> >news:o3q030ppu0dl9k2fl10p9nqmupqao8lbr5@4ax.com.. .
> >> In message <c0mfde$18p5e3$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>, "William
> >Oliveri"
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> If it runs OK, and you don't have a cloud of blue smoke following you
> >around,
> >> drive the GD thing and find something else to worry about.
> >
>

Re: Test Results, Mike Romain, Chris, all
 

You know, I could have been less of a person and never told of the results
when I took it to a couple of places to diagnosis the "ping" problem but I'm
not that way. I post what I have learned and results I have found and I
know others have learned from my posts either what to do or what not to do.
It's all good in the end. You jump in the middle and cry at my
methodologies but don't suggest or outline the "proper" way of doing it from
the git go. You have not suggested one thing since I presented the problems
of blue smoke. Not before changing the valve seals, not after. Not one.
Then you come off as an angry little man with your responses. I think you
need some anger management. Perhaps you should see a therapist.


My thanks to Bill, Mike, Chris and all the rest for their great help.


Bill




"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
news:b24230lf0jbds00j9n9oitf112guq2i86n@4ax.com...
> I don't know. I guess it depends on who is interpreting it as a fouled
plug.
> Seems to me that you spent over a month here complaining about a non
existent
> ping before this latest fiasco.
>
> Oil on the threads is not a fouled spark plug. IF you were getting enough
oil
> on the plug to actually foul it in 15 to 30 miles, you would see smoke.
>
> You said you just had it at JeepsRUs, but you didn't have him look at your
spark
> plug? He only put a DRB on it because that's all you wanted, right? This
is
> sounding more and more like the "ping" debacle.
>
> The PCM monitors injector circuits electrically and will set a fault that
can be
> read by the DRB if it detects a malfunctioning injector CIRCUIT. It has
no
> idea at all if the injector is actually opening or closing.
>
> The best you can hope for is a guess from anybody reading here. You had
it to a
> professional, but didn't let him diagnose your problem, or determine if
there
> actually is a problem.
>
> One more thing. You do a compression test, leak down test, or whatever,
and
> you're doing it at the rate of one cylinder per day. Then you come here
and
> start a new thread every time you post something, you make it very
difficult for
> anyone to go back and see what's been done so they don't end up telling
you what
> you have already heard/ignored/missed/not understood.
>
> Fiasco...
>
>
>
> In message <c0prt8$1a7ud7$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>, "William
Oliveri"
> wrote:
>
> >I don't know. How about fouling a plug every 15 to 30 miles?
> >
> >
> >
> >"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
> >news:o3q030ppu0dl9k2fl10p9nqmupqao8lbr5@4ax.com.. .
> >> In message <c0mfde$18p5e3$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>, "William
> >Oliveri"
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> If it runs OK, and you don't have a cloud of blue smoke following you
> >around,
> >> drive the GD thing and find something else to worry about.
> >
>

Re: Test Results, Mike Romain, Chris, all
 

You know, I could have been less of a person and never told of the results
when I took it to a couple of places to diagnosis the "ping" problem but I'm
not that way. I post what I have learned and results I have found and I
know others have learned from my posts either what to do or what not to do.
It's all good in the end. You jump in the middle and cry at my
methodologies but don't suggest or outline the "proper" way of doing it from
the git go. You have not suggested one thing since I presented the problems
of blue smoke. Not before changing the valve seals, not after. Not one.
Then you come off as an angry little man with your responses. I think you
need some anger management. Perhaps you should see a therapist.


My thanks to Bill, Mike, Chris and all the rest for their great help.


Bill




"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
news:b24230lf0jbds00j9n9oitf112guq2i86n@4ax.com...
> I don't know. I guess it depends on who is interpreting it as a fouled
plug.
> Seems to me that you spent over a month here complaining about a non
existent
> ping before this latest fiasco.
>
> Oil on the threads is not a fouled spark plug. IF you were getting enough
oil
> on the plug to actually foul it in 15 to 30 miles, you would see smoke.
>
> You said you just had it at JeepsRUs, but you didn't have him look at your
spark
> plug? He only put a DRB on it because that's all you wanted, right? This
is
> sounding more and more like the "ping" debacle.
>
> The PCM monitors injector circuits electrically and will set a fault that
can be
> read by the DRB if it detects a malfunctioning injector CIRCUIT. It has
no
> idea at all if the injector is actually opening or closing.
>
> The best you can hope for is a guess from anybody reading here. You had
it to a
> professional, but didn't let him diagnose your problem, or determine if
there
> actually is a problem.
>
> One more thing. You do a compression test, leak down test, or whatever,
and
> you're doing it at the rate of one cylinder per day. Then you come here
and
> start a new thread every time you post something, you make it very
difficult for
> anyone to go back and see what's been done so they don't end up telling
you what
> you have already heard/ignored/missed/not understood.
>
> Fiasco...
>
>
>
> In message <c0prt8$1a7ud7$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>, "William
Oliveri"
> wrote:
>
> >I don't know. How about fouling a plug every 15 to 30 miles?
> >
> >
> >
> >"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
> >news:o3q030ppu0dl9k2fl10p9nqmupqao8lbr5@4ax.com.. .
> >> In message <c0mfde$18p5e3$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>, "William
> >Oliveri"
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> If it runs OK, and you don't have a cloud of blue smoke following you
> >around,
> >> drive the GD thing and find something else to worry about.
> >
>

Re: Test Results, Mike Romain, Chris, all
 

You are the one that said you were running out of time trying to figure this
out. You have a pro put a DRB on it, but don't have him address your "oiled
plug" problem. I told you what a DRB will and won't do and that's not good
enough. I make a suggestion about keeping your posts together so somebody can
follow what has or hasn't happened, and you whine because you don't like my
style. I guess some folks just love to struggle, so I'll step aside and allow
you to continue.

Enjoy the struggle!


In message <c0rihe$1b0sde$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>, "William Oliveri"
wrote:

>You know, I could have been less of a person and never told of the results
>when I took it to a couple of places to diagnosis the "ping" problem but I'm
>not that way. I post what I have learned and results I have found and I
>know others have learned from my posts either what to do or what not to do.
>It's all good in the end. You jump in the middle and cry at my
>methodologies but don't suggest or outline the "proper" way of doing it from
>the git go. You have not suggested one thing since I presented the problems
>of blue smoke. Not before changing the valve seals, not after. Not one.
>Then you come off as an angry little man with your responses. I think you
>need some anger management. Perhaps you should see a therapist.
>
>
>My thanks to Bill, Mike, Chris and all the rest for their great help.
>
>
>Bill
>
>
>
>
>"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
>news:b24230lf0jbds00j9n9oitf112guq2i86n@4ax.com.. .
>> I don't know. I guess it depends on who is interpreting it as a fouled
>plug.
>> Seems to me that you spent over a month here complaining about a non
>existent
>> ping before this latest fiasco.
>>
>> Oil on the threads is not a fouled spark plug. IF you were getting enough
>oil
>> on the plug to actually foul it in 15 to 30 miles, you would see smoke.
>>
>> You said you just had it at JeepsRUs, but you didn't have him look at your
>spark
>> plug? He only put a DRB on it because that's all you wanted, right? This
>is
>> sounding more and more like the "ping" debacle.
>>
>> The PCM monitors injector circuits electrically and will set a fault that
>can be
>> read by the DRB if it detects a malfunctioning injector CIRCUIT. It has
>no
>> idea at all if the injector is actually opening or closing.
>>
>> The best you can hope for is a guess from anybody reading here. You had
>it to a
>> professional, but didn't let him diagnose your problem, or determine if
>there
>> actually is a problem.
>>
>> One more thing. You do a compression test, leak down test, or whatever,
>and
>> you're doing it at the rate of one cylinder per day. Then you come here
>and
>> start a new thread every time you post something, you make it very
>difficult for
>> anyone to go back and see what's been done so they don't end up telling
>you what
>> you have already heard/ignored/missed/not understood.
>>
>> Fiasco...
>>
>>
>>
>> In message <c0prt8$1a7ud7$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>, "William
>Oliveri"
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I don't know. How about fouling a plug every 15 to 30 miles?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
>> >news:o3q030ppu0dl9k2fl10p9nqmupqao8lbr5@4ax.com.. .
>> >> In message <c0mfde$18p5e3$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>, "William
>> >Oliveri"
>> >> wrote:
>> >
>> >> If it runs OK, and you don't have a cloud of blue smoke following you
>> >around,
>> >> drive the GD thing and find something else to worry about.
>> >
>>
>