"John Davies" <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:k8soc0p959gomtmcefpaev2i1q4vg9k1sj@4ax.com...
> On 13 Jun 2004 05:23:48 GMT, handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote:
>
> >Any reason that these tires suck?
> >
> >I want a fairly aggressive tire for mostly street and some offroad
driving, to
> >include mud and wet snow in Western Oregon and rocky stuff in Central
Oregon.
> >However, I am not a recreational mudder and don't want or need true mud
tires;
> >I just don't wnat to fear mud, as I now do with my AT's. These seem to
be
> >rated a little better than the BFG MT's, so I am leaning towards the
Goodyears.
> > Talk me out of it anyone?
>
> As Mike noted they wear fast. but I say get 'em - they are terrific
> otherwise. They have great traction so you may not even air down for
> casual trails. They aren't great on ice and packed snow, but that
> wasn't mentioned in your post.

Judging from the broad range of uses these tires are getting I'd say it's
more than a safe call. The only negative I've heard is accelerated tire wear
vs BFG MTs. Also, pricing has become more competitive vs the BFGs. HAd they
not been over $50 more per tire I'd have chosen these last year over another
set of BFGs, just to see how they were. I'm very happy with the BFG MT kms,
however.

 

"John Davies" <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:k8soc0p959gomtmcefpaev2i1q4vg9k1sj@4ax.com...
> On 13 Jun 2004 05:23:48 GMT, handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote:
>
> >Any reason that these tires suck?
> >
> >I want a fairly aggressive tire for mostly street and some offroad
driving, to
> >include mud and wet snow in Western Oregon and rocky stuff in Central
Oregon.
> >However, I am not a recreational mudder and don't want or need true mud
tires;
> >I just don't wnat to fear mud, as I now do with my AT's. These seem to
be
> >rated a little better than the BFG MT's, so I am leaning towards the
Goodyears.
> > Talk me out of it anyone?
>
> As Mike noted they wear fast. but I say get 'em - they are terrific
> otherwise. They have great traction so you may not even air down for
> casual trails. They aren't great on ice and packed snow, but that
> wasn't mentioned in your post.

Judging from the broad range of uses these tires are getting I'd say it's
more than a safe call. The only negative I've heard is accelerated tire wear
vs BFG MTs. Also, pricing has become more competitive vs the BFGs. HAd they
not been over $50 more per tire I'd have chosen these last year over another
set of BFGs, just to see how they were. I'm very happy with the BFG MT kms,
however.

 

"John Davies" <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:k8soc0p959gomtmcefpaev2i1q4vg9k1sj@4ax.com...
> On 13 Jun 2004 05:23:48 GMT, handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote:
>
> >Any reason that these tires suck?
> >
> >I want a fairly aggressive tire for mostly street and some offroad
driving, to
> >include mud and wet snow in Western Oregon and rocky stuff in Central
Oregon.
> >However, I am not a recreational mudder and don't want or need true mud
tires;
> >I just don't wnat to fear mud, as I now do with my AT's. These seem to
be
> >rated a little better than the BFG MT's, so I am leaning towards the
Goodyears.
> > Talk me out of it anyone?
>
> As Mike noted they wear fast. but I say get 'em - they are terrific
> otherwise. They have great traction so you may not even air down for
> casual trails. They aren't great on ice and packed snow, but that
> wasn't mentioned in your post.

Judging from the broad range of uses these tires are getting I'd say it's
more than a safe call. The only negative I've heard is accelerated tire wear
vs BFG MTs. Also, pricing has become more competitive vs the BFGs. HAd they
not been over $50 more per tire I'd have chosen these last year over another
set of BFGs, just to see how they were. I'm very happy with the BFG MT kms,
however.

 

>
>The MTR's wear 'really' fast on the street/highway and get torn all to
>crap on sharp rocks or gravel roads.

Ironically, and don't tell the wife <g>, but the wearing fast does not bug me
too much. These are 31's, and in a couple years I am thinking I'll be able to
retire the TJ to more of "toy" status and lift it, etc. So... if these are
getting pretty worn in a couple years, that's a good excuse to buy new tires,
right?

Can't seem to wear my damn AT's out though...

-jeff

 

>
>The MTR's wear 'really' fast on the street/highway and get torn all to
>crap on sharp rocks or gravel roads.

Ironically, and don't tell the wife <g>, but the wearing fast does not bug me
too much. These are 31's, and in a couple years I am thinking I'll be able to
retire the TJ to more of "toy" status and lift it, etc. So... if these are
getting pretty worn in a couple years, that's a good excuse to buy new tires,
right?

Can't seem to wear my damn AT's out though...

-jeff

 

>
>The MTR's wear 'really' fast on the street/highway and get torn all to
>crap on sharp rocks or gravel roads.

Ironically, and don't tell the wife <g>, but the wearing fast does not bug me
too much. These are 31's, and in a couple years I am thinking I'll be able to
retire the TJ to more of "toy" status and lift it, etc. So... if these are
getting pretty worn in a couple years, that's a good excuse to buy new tires,
right?

Can't seem to wear my damn AT's out though...

-jeff

 

>
>The MTR's wear 'really' fast on the street/highway and get torn all to
>crap on sharp rocks or gravel roads.

Ironically, and don't tell the wife <g>, but the wearing fast does not bug me
too much. These are 31's, and in a couple years I am thinking I'll be able to
retire the TJ to more of "toy" status and lift it, etc. So... if these are
getting pretty worn in a couple years, that's a good excuse to buy new tires,
right?

Can't seem to wear my damn AT's out though...

-jeff

 

I have them on my '98 TJ and my '04 Rubi and I am very happy with them.

Jay

Handywired wrote:
> Any reason that these tires suck?
>
> I want a fairly aggressive tire for mostly street and some offroad driving, to
> include mud and wet snow in Western Oregon and rocky stuff in Central Oregon.
> However, I am not a recreational mudder and don't want or need true mud tires;
> I just don't wnat to fear mud, as I now do with my AT's. These seem to be
> rated a little better than the BFG MT's, so I am leaning towards the Goodyears.
> Talk me out of it anyone?
>
> -jeff

 

I have them on my '98 TJ and my '04 Rubi and I am very happy with them.

Jay

Handywired wrote:
> Any reason that these tires suck?
>
> I want a fairly aggressive tire for mostly street and some offroad driving, to
> include mud and wet snow in Western Oregon and rocky stuff in Central Oregon.
> However, I am not a recreational mudder and don't want or need true mud tires;
> I just don't wnat to fear mud, as I now do with my AT's. These seem to be
> rated a little better than the BFG MT's, so I am leaning towards the Goodyears.
> Talk me out of it anyone?
>
> -jeff

 

I have them on my '98 TJ and my '04 Rubi and I am very happy with them.

Jay

Handywired wrote:
> Any reason that these tires suck?
>
> I want a fairly aggressive tire for mostly street and some offroad driving, to
> include mud and wet snow in Western Oregon and rocky stuff in Central Oregon.
> However, I am not a recreational mudder and don't want or need true mud tires;
> I just don't wnat to fear mud, as I now do with my AT's. These seem to be
> rated a little better than the BFG MT's, so I am leaning towards the Goodyears.
> Talk me out of it anyone?
>
> -jeff