T5 to T4 swap
11-05-2003, 03:02 PM
#11
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Re: T5 to T4 swap
Good idea, I wonder if the other poster would have suggested to
make a disc, if he had witnessed a flywheel explosion that cut a
Corvette in half, as I have. It's the reason my T-Bird and Jeep use
scatter shields: http://www.----------.com/slave.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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hammertime wrote:
>
> Shoot, if i have to take the t4 & t5 apart to swap the input shafts i
> might as well just rebuild the T-5 and keep 5th gear.
>
> The closest i could come up with was a 9-11/16" OD 14 spline clutch
> from a 2.5L 4cyl cherokee..... but the pressure plate holes won't line
> up with the 10 spline plate (and those on the flywheel).
>
> Don't want to run a bastard clutch setup, with a 6cyl pressure plate
> and a 4 cyl clutch disc.
>
> Do you know what make/model donated the clutch disc referred to
> below??
make a disc, if he had witnessed a flywheel explosion that cut a
Corvette in half, as I have. It's the reason my T-Bird and Jeep use
scatter shields: http://www.----------.com/slave.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
hammertime wrote:
>
> Shoot, if i have to take the t4 & t5 apart to swap the input shafts i
> might as well just rebuild the T-5 and keep 5th gear.
>
> The closest i could come up with was a 9-11/16" OD 14 spline clutch
> from a 2.5L 4cyl cherokee..... but the pressure plate holes won't line
> up with the 10 spline plate (and those on the flywheel).
>
> Don't want to run a bastard clutch setup, with a 6cyl pressure plate
> and a 4 cyl clutch disc.
>
> Do you know what make/model donated the clutch disc referred to
> below??
11-05-2003, 03:02 PM
#12
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Re: T5 to T4 swap
Good idea, I wonder if the other poster would have suggested to
make a disc, if he had witnessed a flywheel explosion that cut a
Corvette in half, as I have. It's the reason my T-Bird and Jeep use
scatter shields: http://www.----------.com/slave.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
hammertime wrote:
>
> Shoot, if i have to take the t4 & t5 apart to swap the input shafts i
> might as well just rebuild the T-5 and keep 5th gear.
>
> The closest i could come up with was a 9-11/16" OD 14 spline clutch
> from a 2.5L 4cyl cherokee..... but the pressure plate holes won't line
> up with the 10 spline plate (and those on the flywheel).
>
> Don't want to run a bastard clutch setup, with a 6cyl pressure plate
> and a 4 cyl clutch disc.
>
> Do you know what make/model donated the clutch disc referred to
> below??
make a disc, if he had witnessed a flywheel explosion that cut a
Corvette in half, as I have. It's the reason my T-Bird and Jeep use
scatter shields: http://www.----------.com/slave.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
hammertime wrote:
>
> Shoot, if i have to take the t4 & t5 apart to swap the input shafts i
> might as well just rebuild the T-5 and keep 5th gear.
>
> The closest i could come up with was a 9-11/16" OD 14 spline clutch
> from a 2.5L 4cyl cherokee..... but the pressure plate holes won't line
> up with the 10 spline plate (and those on the flywheel).
>
> Don't want to run a bastard clutch setup, with a 6cyl pressure plate
> and a 4 cyl clutch disc.
>
> Do you know what make/model donated the clutch disc referred to
> below??
11-05-2003, 03:02 PM
#13
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Re: T5 to T4 swap
Good idea, I wonder if the other poster would have suggested to
make a disc, if he had witnessed a flywheel explosion that cut a
Corvette in half, as I have. It's the reason my T-Bird and Jeep use
scatter shields: http://www.----------.com/slave.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
hammertime wrote:
>
> Shoot, if i have to take the t4 & t5 apart to swap the input shafts i
> might as well just rebuild the T-5 and keep 5th gear.
>
> The closest i could come up with was a 9-11/16" OD 14 spline clutch
> from a 2.5L 4cyl cherokee..... but the pressure plate holes won't line
> up with the 10 spline plate (and those on the flywheel).
>
> Don't want to run a bastard clutch setup, with a 6cyl pressure plate
> and a 4 cyl clutch disc.
>
> Do you know what make/model donated the clutch disc referred to
> below??
make a disc, if he had witnessed a flywheel explosion that cut a
Corvette in half, as I have. It's the reason my T-Bird and Jeep use
scatter shields: http://www.----------.com/slave.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
hammertime wrote:
>
> Shoot, if i have to take the t4 & t5 apart to swap the input shafts i
> might as well just rebuild the T-5 and keep 5th gear.
>
> The closest i could come up with was a 9-11/16" OD 14 spline clutch
> from a 2.5L 4cyl cherokee..... but the pressure plate holes won't line
> up with the 10 spline plate (and those on the flywheel).
>
> Don't want to run a bastard clutch setup, with a 6cyl pressure plate
> and a 4 cyl clutch disc.
>
> Do you know what make/model donated the clutch disc referred to
> below??
11-05-2003, 05:49 PM
#14
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Re: T5 to T4 swap
>>Don't want to run a bastard clutch setup, with a 6cyl pressure plate
and a 4 cyl clutch disc.
thats what he had to do.
>.Good idea, I wonder if the other poster would have suggested to
make a disc,......
What are you talking about? Make a disc?? The auto parts store (O'Rilley) sells
pressure plates, disc only, or the kits. We matched up the correct disc
matching the thickness, material, brand, and outside diameter. The only
difference was that it was 14 spline and not the 10 spline....We figured that
the previous owner had swaped in a junkyard transmission (a 4 cyl unit). Also,
jeeps run at low RPM's (under 3K) while a Corvette is high rpm and a fiberglass
floor....
The combo we used worked fine and has not given him any problems.
and a 4 cyl clutch disc.
thats what he had to do.
>.Good idea, I wonder if the other poster would have suggested to
make a disc,......
What are you talking about? Make a disc?? The auto parts store (O'Rilley) sells
pressure plates, disc only, or the kits. We matched up the correct disc
matching the thickness, material, brand, and outside diameter. The only
difference was that it was 14 spline and not the 10 spline....We figured that
the previous owner had swaped in a junkyard transmission (a 4 cyl unit). Also,
jeeps run at low RPM's (under 3K) while a Corvette is high rpm and a fiberglass
floor....
The combo we used worked fine and has not given him any problems.
11-05-2003, 05:49 PM
#15
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Re: T5 to T4 swap
>>Don't want to run a bastard clutch setup, with a 6cyl pressure plate
and a 4 cyl clutch disc.
thats what he had to do.
>.Good idea, I wonder if the other poster would have suggested to
make a disc,......
What are you talking about? Make a disc?? The auto parts store (O'Rilley) sells
pressure plates, disc only, or the kits. We matched up the correct disc
matching the thickness, material, brand, and outside diameter. The only
difference was that it was 14 spline and not the 10 spline....We figured that
the previous owner had swaped in a junkyard transmission (a 4 cyl unit). Also,
jeeps run at low RPM's (under 3K) while a Corvette is high rpm and a fiberglass
floor....
The combo we used worked fine and has not given him any problems.
and a 4 cyl clutch disc.
thats what he had to do.
>.Good idea, I wonder if the other poster would have suggested to
make a disc,......
What are you talking about? Make a disc?? The auto parts store (O'Rilley) sells
pressure plates, disc only, or the kits. We matched up the correct disc
matching the thickness, material, brand, and outside diameter. The only
difference was that it was 14 spline and not the 10 spline....We figured that
the previous owner had swaped in a junkyard transmission (a 4 cyl unit). Also,
jeeps run at low RPM's (under 3K) while a Corvette is high rpm and a fiberglass
floor....
The combo we used worked fine and has not given him any problems.
11-05-2003, 05:49 PM
#16
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Re: T5 to T4 swap
>>Don't want to run a bastard clutch setup, with a 6cyl pressure plate
and a 4 cyl clutch disc.
thats what he had to do.
>.Good idea, I wonder if the other poster would have suggested to
make a disc,......
What are you talking about? Make a disc?? The auto parts store (O'Rilley) sells
pressure plates, disc only, or the kits. We matched up the correct disc
matching the thickness, material, brand, and outside diameter. The only
difference was that it was 14 spline and not the 10 spline....We figured that
the previous owner had swaped in a junkyard transmission (a 4 cyl unit). Also,
jeeps run at low RPM's (under 3K) while a Corvette is high rpm and a fiberglass
floor....
The combo we used worked fine and has not given him any problems.
and a 4 cyl clutch disc.
thats what he had to do.
>.Good idea, I wonder if the other poster would have suggested to
make a disc,......
What are you talking about? Make a disc?? The auto parts store (O'Rilley) sells
pressure plates, disc only, or the kits. We matched up the correct disc
matching the thickness, material, brand, and outside diameter. The only
difference was that it was 14 spline and not the 10 spline....We figured that
the previous owner had swaped in a junkyard transmission (a 4 cyl unit). Also,
jeeps run at low RPM's (under 3K) while a Corvette is high rpm and a fiberglass
floor....
The combo we used worked fine and has not given him any problems.
11-05-2003, 06:59 PM
#17
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Re: T5 to T4 swap
There is no such thing as a 10 1/2" with a puny 1", 14 spline.
Check Centerforce's inventory:
http://media.centerforce.com/Catalog/2003catalogw.pdf A picture of an
8-1/2" x 1" x 14: http://www.mazdasurplus.com/images/CP81019.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Onlyinajeepcj7 wrote:
>
> What are you talking about? Make a disc?? The auto parts store (O'Rilley) sells
> pressure plates, disc only, or the kits. We matched up the correct disc
> matching the thickness, material, brand, and outside diameter. The only
> difference was that it was 14 spline and not the 10 spline....We figured that
> the previous owner had swaped in a junkyard transmission (a 4 cyl unit). Also,
> jeeps run at low RPM's (under 3K) while a Corvette is high rpm and a fiberglass
> floor....
> The combo we used worked fine and has not given him any problems.
Check Centerforce's inventory:
http://media.centerforce.com/Catalog/2003catalogw.pdf A picture of an
8-1/2" x 1" x 14: http://www.mazdasurplus.com/images/CP81019.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Onlyinajeepcj7 wrote:
>
> What are you talking about? Make a disc?? The auto parts store (O'Rilley) sells
> pressure plates, disc only, or the kits. We matched up the correct disc
> matching the thickness, material, brand, and outside diameter. The only
> difference was that it was 14 spline and not the 10 spline....We figured that
> the previous owner had swaped in a junkyard transmission (a 4 cyl unit). Also,
> jeeps run at low RPM's (under 3K) while a Corvette is high rpm and a fiberglass
> floor....
> The combo we used worked fine and has not given him any problems.
11-05-2003, 06:59 PM
#18
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Re: T5 to T4 swap
There is no such thing as a 10 1/2" with a puny 1", 14 spline.
Check Centerforce's inventory:
http://media.centerforce.com/Catalog/2003catalogw.pdf A picture of an
8-1/2" x 1" x 14: http://www.mazdasurplus.com/images/CP81019.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Onlyinajeepcj7 wrote:
>
> What are you talking about? Make a disc?? The auto parts store (O'Rilley) sells
> pressure plates, disc only, or the kits. We matched up the correct disc
> matching the thickness, material, brand, and outside diameter. The only
> difference was that it was 14 spline and not the 10 spline....We figured that
> the previous owner had swaped in a junkyard transmission (a 4 cyl unit). Also,
> jeeps run at low RPM's (under 3K) while a Corvette is high rpm and a fiberglass
> floor....
> The combo we used worked fine and has not given him any problems.
Check Centerforce's inventory:
http://media.centerforce.com/Catalog/2003catalogw.pdf A picture of an
8-1/2" x 1" x 14: http://www.mazdasurplus.com/images/CP81019.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Onlyinajeepcj7 wrote:
>
> What are you talking about? Make a disc?? The auto parts store (O'Rilley) sells
> pressure plates, disc only, or the kits. We matched up the correct disc
> matching the thickness, material, brand, and outside diameter. The only
> difference was that it was 14 spline and not the 10 spline....We figured that
> the previous owner had swaped in a junkyard transmission (a 4 cyl unit). Also,
> jeeps run at low RPM's (under 3K) while a Corvette is high rpm and a fiberglass
> floor....
> The combo we used worked fine and has not given him any problems.
11-05-2003, 06:59 PM
#19
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Re: T5 to T4 swap
There is no such thing as a 10 1/2" with a puny 1", 14 spline.
Check Centerforce's inventory:
http://media.centerforce.com/Catalog/2003catalogw.pdf A picture of an
8-1/2" x 1" x 14: http://www.mazdasurplus.com/images/CP81019.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Onlyinajeepcj7 wrote:
>
> What are you talking about? Make a disc?? The auto parts store (O'Rilley) sells
> pressure plates, disc only, or the kits. We matched up the correct disc
> matching the thickness, material, brand, and outside diameter. The only
> difference was that it was 14 spline and not the 10 spline....We figured that
> the previous owner had swaped in a junkyard transmission (a 4 cyl unit). Also,
> jeeps run at low RPM's (under 3K) while a Corvette is high rpm and a fiberglass
> floor....
> The combo we used worked fine and has not given him any problems.
Check Centerforce's inventory:
http://media.centerforce.com/Catalog/2003catalogw.pdf A picture of an
8-1/2" x 1" x 14: http://www.mazdasurplus.com/images/CP81019.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Onlyinajeepcj7 wrote:
>
> What are you talking about? Make a disc?? The auto parts store (O'Rilley) sells
> pressure plates, disc only, or the kits. We matched up the correct disc
> matching the thickness, material, brand, and outside diameter. The only
> difference was that it was 14 spline and not the 10 spline....We figured that
> the previous owner had swaped in a junkyard transmission (a 4 cyl unit). Also,
> jeeps run at low RPM's (under 3K) while a Corvette is high rpm and a fiberglass
> floor....
> The combo we used worked fine and has not given him any problems.
11-06-2003, 06:37 PM
#20
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Re: T5 to T4 swap
I searched LONG AND HARD for a clutch that would work. i even checked
the online centerforce catalog the other day which covered every darn
make/model/and year back to ~1950 (there is over 1000 lines in the
excel file). i checked a few friends that are all around pretty sharp
on all autos, and they never heard of such a setup either. I read a
reply from my similar post on CJ8.com and found someone who was
running this setup, but he bought his 8 that way, and when his clutch
died, he had to rebuild the disc. Basically i found i was S.O.L.
Onlyinajeepcj7: do you know what make/model disc your buddy used ? i
am only curious at this point, since i have decided to move forwardin
another route.
i wasn't about to run a bastard clutch setup. jeeps are great because
they're CHEAP. the 10 spline clutch kit was ~$100 new. So the 14
spline T4 is down the road (even trade) and i am awaiting a ten spline
T5 to show up at my house.
on the brighter side, now i have 5th gear again (though the gearing in
my rear axle keeps me from really using it on the highway).
I can't wait to get my toy back on the road again. it's been an
agonizing 4 weeks since this little "weekend" project began. i hate it
when my damn job gets in the way of my toy.
Thanks for the help.
-brian
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 15:59:11 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> There is no such thing as a 10 1/2" with a puny 1", 14 spline.
>Check Centerforce's inventory:
>http://media.centerforce.com/Catalog/2003catalogw.pdf A picture of an
>8-1/2" x 1" x 14: http://www.mazdasurplus.com/images/CP81019.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Onlyinajeepcj7 wrote:
>>
>> What are you talking about? Make a disc?? The auto parts store (O'Rilley) sells
>> pressure plates, disc only, or the kits. We matched up the correct disc
>> matching the thickness, material, brand, and outside diameter. The only
>> difference was that it was 14 spline and not the 10 spline....We figured that
>> the previous owner had swaped in a junkyard transmission (a 4 cyl unit). Also,
>> jeeps run at low RPM's (under 3K) while a Corvette is high rpm and a fiberglass
>> floor....
>> The combo we used worked fine and has not given him any problems.
the online centerforce catalog the other day which covered every darn
make/model/and year back to ~1950 (there is over 1000 lines in the
excel file). i checked a few friends that are all around pretty sharp
on all autos, and they never heard of such a setup either. I read a
reply from my similar post on CJ8.com and found someone who was
running this setup, but he bought his 8 that way, and when his clutch
died, he had to rebuild the disc. Basically i found i was S.O.L.
Onlyinajeepcj7: do you know what make/model disc your buddy used ? i
am only curious at this point, since i have decided to move forwardin
another route.
i wasn't about to run a bastard clutch setup. jeeps are great because
they're CHEAP. the 10 spline clutch kit was ~$100 new. So the 14
spline T4 is down the road (even trade) and i am awaiting a ten spline
T5 to show up at my house.
on the brighter side, now i have 5th gear again (though the gearing in
my rear axle keeps me from really using it on the highway).
I can't wait to get my toy back on the road again. it's been an
agonizing 4 weeks since this little "weekend" project began. i hate it
when my damn job gets in the way of my toy.
Thanks for the help.
-brian
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 15:59:11 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> There is no such thing as a 10 1/2" with a puny 1", 14 spline.
>Check Centerforce's inventory:
>http://media.centerforce.com/Catalog/2003catalogw.pdf A picture of an
>8-1/2" x 1" x 14: http://www.mazdasurplus.com/images/CP81019.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Onlyinajeepcj7 wrote:
>>
>> What are you talking about? Make a disc?? The auto parts store (O'Rilley) sells
>> pressure plates, disc only, or the kits. We matched up the correct disc
>> matching the thickness, material, brand, and outside diameter. The only
>> difference was that it was 14 spline and not the 10 spline....We figured that
>> the previous owner had swaped in a junkyard transmission (a 4 cyl unit). Also,
>> jeeps run at low RPM's (under 3K) while a Corvette is high rpm and a fiberglass
>> floor....
>> The combo we used worked fine and has not given him any problems.
