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Generic wrote:
>
> Plastics/synthetics can hold up far better than metal in some conditions so
> I'm curious about those who've tried it too.
>
> -John

James Nipper

Bill, that isn't true. I ruined it by not keeping tension on it as I reeled
it in (my teenage boys), and over time, the cable wound uneven, etc, and
got kinked, frayed, etc. I see it as a bit of a problem to keep a cable
wound even as it is wound up.

I am just looking for other's experiences. My own gut reaction is much the
same as yours.......... I was doubtful, but I know there are some Jeep
fellows that love em.......

Thanks !!

--James--

James Nipper

Bill, that isn't true. I ruined it by not keeping tension on it as I reeled
it in (my teenage boys), and over time, the cable wound uneven, etc, and
got kinked, frayed, etc. I see it as a bit of a problem to keep a cable
wound even as it is wound up.

I am just looking for other's experiences. My own gut reaction is much the
same as yours.......... I was doubtful, but I know there are some Jeep
fellows that love em.......

Thanks !!

--James--

James Nipper

Bill, that isn't true. I ruined it by not keeping tension on it as I reeled
it in (my teenage boys), and over time, the cable wound uneven, etc, and
got kinked, frayed, etc. I see it as a bit of a problem to keep a cable
wound even as it is wound up.

I am just looking for other's experiences. My own gut reaction is much the
same as yours.......... I was doubtful, but I know there are some Jeep
fellows that love em.......

Thanks !!

--James--

James Nipper

Bill, that isn't true. I ruined it by not keeping tension on it as I reeled
it in (my teenage boys), and over time, the cable wound uneven, etc, and
got kinked, frayed, etc. I see it as a bit of a problem to keep a cable
wound even as it is wound up.

I am just looking for other's experiences. My own gut reaction is much the
same as yours.......... I was doubtful, but I know there are some Jeep
fellows that love em.......

Thanks !!

--James--

HarryS

Well, yes but not on a winch. Our unit was part of a pilot program to test
every thing from Samson Braid to wire rope (steel cable). The best product
by far was the wire rope. We tested some supposed high tensile strength
Kevlar and it was garbage. It does not take sharp bends very well and frays
way to easy. I would not but my life especially my jeep in a situation that
would render either useless on the clone cabling. If the stuff is so god
why doesn't the military use it and where is the UL listing? Food for
thought.

--
HarryS
"James Nipper" <jnipper@nospam.fdn.com> wrote in message
news:uqqdnaYGlbHzToLcRVn-jw@comcast.com...
>
>
> Well, I use my atv for ten weeks out of the year. Perhaps it will rain
25%
> of those ten weeks, say a total of 2 1/2 weeks a year. During most
of
> that 2 1/2 weeks, I keep it stored in a shed, or covered with a
Cabellos
> cover.
>
> Maybe it gets exposed to rain a total of 3 or 4 times a year. I DOUBT
> that would hurt it.
>
> Same specs for sun.
>
>
> My original post included the words:
>
>
> > I would like to hear comments from those who have **actually used** a
> rope
> > for a winch cable on an atv or passenger vehicle, and what experiences
you
> > have had.
>
>
>
> Harry, have you USED a rope cable on a winch, and what experience
did
> you have ??
>
>
>
> --James--
>
> --------------------------------
>
>
>
> It is simple, if you can't keep it wet or expose it to sun for long
periods
> of time what good is it?
> --
> HarryS
>

HarryS

Well, yes but not on a winch. Our unit was part of a pilot program to test
every thing from Samson Braid to wire rope (steel cable). The best product
by far was the wire rope. We tested some supposed high tensile strength
Kevlar and it was garbage. It does not take sharp bends very well and frays
way to easy. I would not but my life especially my jeep in a situation that
would render either useless on the clone cabling. If the stuff is so god
why doesn't the military use it and where is the UL listing? Food for
thought.

--
HarryS
"James Nipper" <jnipper@nospam.fdn.com> wrote in message
news:uqqdnaYGlbHzToLcRVn-jw@comcast.com...
>
>
> Well, I use my atv for ten weeks out of the year. Perhaps it will rain
25%
> of those ten weeks, say a total of 2 1/2 weeks a year. During most
of
> that 2 1/2 weeks, I keep it stored in a shed, or covered with a
Cabellos
> cover.
>
> Maybe it gets exposed to rain a total of 3 or 4 times a year. I DOUBT
> that would hurt it.
>
> Same specs for sun.
>
>
> My original post included the words:
>
>
> > I would like to hear comments from those who have **actually used** a
> rope
> > for a winch cable on an atv or passenger vehicle, and what experiences
you
> > have had.
>
>
>
> Harry, have you USED a rope cable on a winch, and what experience
did
> you have ??
>
>
>
> --James--
>
> --------------------------------
>
>
>
> It is simple, if you can't keep it wet or expose it to sun for long
periods
> of time what good is it?
> --
> HarryS
>

HarryS

Well, yes but not on a winch. Our unit was part of a pilot program to test
every thing from Samson Braid to wire rope (steel cable). The best product
by far was the wire rope. We tested some supposed high tensile strength
Kevlar and it was garbage. It does not take sharp bends very well and frays
way to easy. I would not but my life especially my jeep in a situation that
would render either useless on the clone cabling. If the stuff is so god
why doesn't the military use it and where is the UL listing? Food for
thought.

--
HarryS
"James Nipper" <jnipper@nospam.fdn.com> wrote in message
news:uqqdnaYGlbHzToLcRVn-jw@comcast.com...
>
>
> Well, I use my atv for ten weeks out of the year. Perhaps it will rain
25%
> of those ten weeks, say a total of 2 1/2 weeks a year. During most
of
> that 2 1/2 weeks, I keep it stored in a shed, or covered with a
Cabellos
> cover.
>
> Maybe it gets exposed to rain a total of 3 or 4 times a year. I DOUBT
> that would hurt it.
>
> Same specs for sun.
>
>
> My original post included the words:
>
>
> > I would like to hear comments from those who have **actually used** a
> rope
> > for a winch cable on an atv or passenger vehicle, and what experiences
you
> > have had.
>
>
>
> Harry, have you USED a rope cable on a winch, and what experience
did
> you have ??
>
>
>
> --James--
>
> --------------------------------
>
>
>
> It is simple, if you can't keep it wet or expose it to sun for long
periods
> of time what good is it?
> --
> HarryS
>

HarryS

Well, yes but not on a winch. Our unit was part of a pilot program to test
every thing from Samson Braid to wire rope (steel cable). The best product
by far was the wire rope. We tested some supposed high tensile strength
Kevlar and it was garbage. It does not take sharp bends very well and frays
way to easy. I would not but my life especially my jeep in a situation that
would render either useless on the clone cabling. If the stuff is so god
why doesn't the military use it and where is the UL listing? Food for
thought.

--
HarryS
"James Nipper" <jnipper@nospam.fdn.com> wrote in message
news:uqqdnaYGlbHzToLcRVn-jw@comcast.com...
>
>
> Well, I use my atv for ten weeks out of the year. Perhaps it will rain
25%
> of those ten weeks, say a total of 2 1/2 weeks a year. During most
of
> that 2 1/2 weeks, I keep it stored in a shed, or covered with a
Cabellos
> cover.
>
> Maybe it gets exposed to rain a total of 3 or 4 times a year. I DOUBT
> that would hurt it.
>
> Same specs for sun.
>
>
> My original post included the words:
>
>
> > I would like to hear comments from those who have **actually used** a
> rope
> > for a winch cable on an atv or passenger vehicle, and what experiences
you
> > have had.
>
>
>
> Harry, have you USED a rope cable on a winch, and what experience
did
> you have ??
>
>
>
> --James--
>
> --------------------------------
>
>
>
> It is simple, if you can't keep it wet or expose it to sun for long
periods
> of time what good is it?
> --
> HarryS
>

Bob

To my knowledge (and I know the kind folks on this board will say so
if I'm wrong here), many, if not all, of the rock-crawling
competitions are now requiring the synthetic winch line. One of the
very good quality ones is X-Line.

One of the major benefits of the synthetic winch rope is that it
weighs next to nothing as compared to steel cable. Yes, you need to
make sure you don't drag it over rocks (which is why you get a long
snake-like sheeth that will go over the rope that you can slide into
place where the rope may contact a rock). But, if the rope should ever
break, there won't be near the stored energy as with a steel cable,
and the resulting whipping of the rope won't be so catastrophic to
person nor vehicle.

I have a friend with a Warn who had the same problem as you; hardly
ever needed to use his winch, and when we needed it last year, found
it had a bad kink in it; apparently he hadn't reeled it in perfectly
the last time, and didn't realize it. So, he replaced it with the
synthetic rope, and it works great. Plus, there is no danger of
kinking this kind of rope, so it's not as imperative that the rope lay
JUST SO when reeling it back in. He's already tested it a couple
times, once pulling a fullsize truck equipped with a plow up out onto
a driveway it had slid off of at a friend's backwoods mountain house.

One thing you have to remember to look for is a rope that has a
high-temp treatment or material for the first x number of feet
(depending on the size of your winch, this requirement of length
varies) so that the minimum first wrap of the line has this
material/coating. The regular rope used for the rest of the winch line
would melt if it was the first wrap, due to the intense heat that
builds up on the winch drum during operation.

Hope that helps you with your decision. Were I in your shoes and I
could afford the more expensive synth rope, I would definitely get it.
I've seen it in action, and it is great. SO much easier to work with
than the steel crap.

/Bob


"James Nipper" <jnipper@nospam.fdn.com> wrote in message news:<35Kdna-uNLI6I4LcRVn-gg@comcast.com>...
> In addition to being a Jeep enthusiast, I also have several atv's, and
> use a 2500 lb winch on one of them, a Honda Foreman. I have posted
> this query in an atv group, but I feel that some of you folks use winches
> and will have some good advice on my questions.
>
>
> I just ruined the 50 foot steel cable on my Warn winch, so I will be looking
> for a replacement soon. In the past few years I have seen comments/ads on
> many folks now using some rope products for winch cable. It seems there
> are some benefits if you take care of it and don't keep it wet all the time
> and/or expose it to sun for long periods of time.
>
> I would like to hear comments from those who have **actually used** a rope
> for a winch cable on an atv or passenger vehicle, and what experiences you
> have had. Also, if there is a preferred brand, please let me know.
>
> While I would like to have a 100 foot rope to replace my old 50 foot one,
> I don't know if 100 feet would fit on a Warn 2500 atv winch.
>
> Thanks for any input !!!!!
>
>
> --James--