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Ya, it's only "fixed" in the sense that it's straight now. The entire hitch
assembly bolts have ripped right through the frame bumper part at the back
and is quite ready to come off at the slightest pull ...Speaking of which
....is there any easy way of replacing that piece ...it looks to be welded to
the frame and is part of the Jeep frame member itself ...I'm going to get a
local guy to build me a custom rear bumper next spring but it looks as
though it either has to bolt to this piece or go around behind it and bolt
through the frame.
I'll have to take a picture since it's hard to describe ...unless someone
out there has the same design ...
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10mr89m41ik6k44@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:4LBad.74423$a41.40444@pd7tw2no...
> > Well, I FINALLY got my '85 CJ7 into the mud for the first time since I
> > bought it. She did surprisingly well considering it's mostly stock
(WAYYYY
> > better than my '88 YJ). I only got stuck twice in the 2 hours of pure
> > mudding and both times I probably could have gotten out with a bit more
> > effort (both times in the same damn spot too ...grr!). Anyways, I
managed
> to
> > get her home and here was the damage report:
> >
> > 1. Rear bumper and hitch actually were FIXED. They were bent prior to
> going
> > out but I got hung up on the pavement as I was entering the offroad area
> (2
> > foot straight drop) and it bent it back into place ..lol. I took a bit
of
> > concrete with me too ...whoopsies.
>
>
> I would take a very close look at that hitch if you "fixed" it that
easily.
>
>
>
>
>
>
assembly bolts have ripped right through the frame bumper part at the back
and is quite ready to come off at the slightest pull ...Speaking of which
....is there any easy way of replacing that piece ...it looks to be welded to
the frame and is part of the Jeep frame member itself ...I'm going to get a
local guy to build me a custom rear bumper next spring but it looks as
though it either has to bolt to this piece or go around behind it and bolt
through the frame.
I'll have to take a picture since it's hard to describe ...unless someone
out there has the same design ...
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10mr89m41ik6k44@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:4LBad.74423$a41.40444@pd7tw2no...
> > Well, I FINALLY got my '85 CJ7 into the mud for the first time since I
> > bought it. She did surprisingly well considering it's mostly stock
(WAYYYY
> > better than my '88 YJ). I only got stuck twice in the 2 hours of pure
> > mudding and both times I probably could have gotten out with a bit more
> > effort (both times in the same damn spot too ...grr!). Anyways, I
managed
> to
> > get her home and here was the damage report:
> >
> > 1. Rear bumper and hitch actually were FIXED. They were bent prior to
> going
> > out but I got hung up on the pavement as I was entering the offroad area
> (2
> > foot straight drop) and it bent it back into place ..lol. I took a bit
of
> > concrete with me too ...whoopsies.
>
>
> I would take a very close look at that hitch if you "fixed" it that
easily.
>
>
>
>
>
>
Guest
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Ya, it's only "fixed" in the sense that it's straight now. The entire hitch
assembly bolts have ripped right through the frame bumper part at the back
and is quite ready to come off at the slightest pull ...Speaking of which
....is there any easy way of replacing that piece ...it looks to be welded to
the frame and is part of the Jeep frame member itself ...I'm going to get a
local guy to build me a custom rear bumper next spring but it looks as
though it either has to bolt to this piece or go around behind it and bolt
through the frame.
I'll have to take a picture since it's hard to describe ...unless someone
out there has the same design ...
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10mr89m41ik6k44@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:4LBad.74423$a41.40444@pd7tw2no...
> > Well, I FINALLY got my '85 CJ7 into the mud for the first time since I
> > bought it. She did surprisingly well considering it's mostly stock
(WAYYYY
> > better than my '88 YJ). I only got stuck twice in the 2 hours of pure
> > mudding and both times I probably could have gotten out with a bit more
> > effort (both times in the same damn spot too ...grr!). Anyways, I
managed
> to
> > get her home and here was the damage report:
> >
> > 1. Rear bumper and hitch actually were FIXED. They were bent prior to
> going
> > out but I got hung up on the pavement as I was entering the offroad area
> (2
> > foot straight drop) and it bent it back into place ..lol. I took a bit
of
> > concrete with me too ...whoopsies.
>
>
> I would take a very close look at that hitch if you "fixed" it that
easily.
>
>
>
>
>
>
assembly bolts have ripped right through the frame bumper part at the back
and is quite ready to come off at the slightest pull ...Speaking of which
....is there any easy way of replacing that piece ...it looks to be welded to
the frame and is part of the Jeep frame member itself ...I'm going to get a
local guy to build me a custom rear bumper next spring but it looks as
though it either has to bolt to this piece or go around behind it and bolt
through the frame.
I'll have to take a picture since it's hard to describe ...unless someone
out there has the same design ...
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10mr89m41ik6k44@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:4LBad.74423$a41.40444@pd7tw2no...
> > Well, I FINALLY got my '85 CJ7 into the mud for the first time since I
> > bought it. She did surprisingly well considering it's mostly stock
(WAYYYY
> > better than my '88 YJ). I only got stuck twice in the 2 hours of pure
> > mudding and both times I probably could have gotten out with a bit more
> > effort (both times in the same damn spot too ...grr!). Anyways, I
managed
> to
> > get her home and here was the damage report:
> >
> > 1. Rear bumper and hitch actually were FIXED. They were bent prior to
> going
> > out but I got hung up on the pavement as I was entering the offroad area
> (2
> > foot straight drop) and it bent it back into place ..lol. I took a bit
of
> > concrete with me too ...whoopsies.
>
>
> I would take a very close look at that hitch if you "fixed" it that
easily.
>
>
>
>
>
>
Guest
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Ya, it's only "fixed" in the sense that it's straight now. The entire hitch
assembly bolts have ripped right through the frame bumper part at the back
and is quite ready to come off at the slightest pull ...Speaking of which
....is there any easy way of replacing that piece ...it looks to be welded to
the frame and is part of the Jeep frame member itself ...I'm going to get a
local guy to build me a custom rear bumper next spring but it looks as
though it either has to bolt to this piece or go around behind it and bolt
through the frame.
I'll have to take a picture since it's hard to describe ...unless someone
out there has the same design ...
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10mr89m41ik6k44@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:4LBad.74423$a41.40444@pd7tw2no...
> > Well, I FINALLY got my '85 CJ7 into the mud for the first time since I
> > bought it. She did surprisingly well considering it's mostly stock
(WAYYYY
> > better than my '88 YJ). I only got stuck twice in the 2 hours of pure
> > mudding and both times I probably could have gotten out with a bit more
> > effort (both times in the same damn spot too ...grr!). Anyways, I
managed
> to
> > get her home and here was the damage report:
> >
> > 1. Rear bumper and hitch actually were FIXED. They were bent prior to
> going
> > out but I got hung up on the pavement as I was entering the offroad area
> (2
> > foot straight drop) and it bent it back into place ..lol. I took a bit
of
> > concrete with me too ...whoopsies.
>
>
> I would take a very close look at that hitch if you "fixed" it that
easily.
>
>
>
>
>
>
assembly bolts have ripped right through the frame bumper part at the back
and is quite ready to come off at the slightest pull ...Speaking of which
....is there any easy way of replacing that piece ...it looks to be welded to
the frame and is part of the Jeep frame member itself ...I'm going to get a
local guy to build me a custom rear bumper next spring but it looks as
though it either has to bolt to this piece or go around behind it and bolt
through the frame.
I'll have to take a picture since it's hard to describe ...unless someone
out there has the same design ...
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10mr89m41ik6k44@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:4LBad.74423$a41.40444@pd7tw2no...
> > Well, I FINALLY got my '85 CJ7 into the mud for the first time since I
> > bought it. She did surprisingly well considering it's mostly stock
(WAYYYY
> > better than my '88 YJ). I only got stuck twice in the 2 hours of pure
> > mudding and both times I probably could have gotten out with a bit more
> > effort (both times in the same damn spot too ...grr!). Anyways, I
managed
> to
> > get her home and here was the damage report:
> >
> > 1. Rear bumper and hitch actually were FIXED. They were bent prior to
> going
> > out but I got hung up on the pavement as I was entering the offroad area
> (2
> > foot straight drop) and it bent it back into place ..lol. I took a bit
of
> > concrete with me too ...whoopsies.
>
>
> I would take a very close look at that hitch if you "fixed" it that
easily.
>
>
>
>
>
>
Guest
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On a CJ the rear bumper is the frame rear cross member. It is welded
along the top edge to the frame rails, I'm not sure if it is also welded
to the bottom of the rail or not, but hazy memory says it is. There are
also beads joining the frame rail to the member inside the channel of the
member, and that cross member is also your rear body mount points. I
don't have a catalog in front of me right now but either 4WD.com or
Quadratec (or both) sells new, heavy-duty rear cross members, prepunched
and ready to weld in. It'll be easier than having your local ironmonger
cobble up something that almost -- but not quite -- fits.
If your rear cross member has gone to cheese you should be prepared to do
some repair work to the last 18" of frame as well, especially the inner
face of the box. You'll need to drop the fuel tank and skid plate to get
the cross member out anyway, so it shouldn't be quite so difficult.
While you've got the tank out inspect it carefully for rust, now would be
the least painful time to replace a 20 year old fuel tank.
Don't skimp and try to just weld extra metal over the rot. That's like
putting extra mustard on your sandwich to cover the taste of the bad
turkey. Either way you'll regret it later.
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, griffin wrote:
> Ya, it's only "fixed" in the sense that it's straight now. The entire hitch
> assembly bolts have ripped right through the frame bumper part at the back
> and is quite ready to come off at the slightest pull ...Speaking of which
> ...is there any easy way of replacing that piece ...it looks to be welded to
> the frame and is part of the Jeep frame member itself ...I'm going to get a
> local guy to build me a custom rear bumper next spring but it looks as
> though it either has to bolt to this piece or go around behind it and bolt
> through the frame.
>
> I'll have to take a picture since it's hard to describe ...unless someone
> out there has the same design ...
>
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:10mr89m41ik6k44@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>> "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:4LBad.74423$a41.40444@pd7tw2no...
>>> Well, I FINALLY got my '85 CJ7 into the mud for the first time since I
>>> bought it. She did surprisingly well considering it's mostly stock
> (WAYYYY
>>> better than my '88 YJ). I only got stuck twice in the 2 hours of pure
>>> mudding and both times I probably could have gotten out with a bit more
>>> effort (both times in the same damn spot too ...grr!). Anyways, I
> managed
>> to
>>> get her home and here was the damage report:
>>>
>>> 1. Rear bumper and hitch actually were FIXED. They were bent prior to
>> going
>>> out but I got hung up on the pavement as I was entering the offroad area
>> (2
>>> foot straight drop) and it bent it back into place ..lol. I took a bit
> of
>>> concrete with me too ...whoopsies.
>>
>>
>> I would take a very close look at that hitch if you "fixed" it that
> easily.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
On a CJ the rear bumper is the frame rear cross member. It is welded
along the top edge to the frame rails, I'm not sure if it is also welded
to the bottom of the rail or not, but hazy memory says it is. There are
also beads joining the frame rail to the member inside the channel of the
member, and that cross member is also your rear body mount points. I
don't have a catalog in front of me right now but either 4WD.com or
Quadratec (or both) sells new, heavy-duty rear cross members, prepunched
and ready to weld in. It'll be easier than having your local ironmonger
cobble up something that almost -- but not quite -- fits.
If your rear cross member has gone to cheese you should be prepared to do
some repair work to the last 18" of frame as well, especially the inner
face of the box. You'll need to drop the fuel tank and skid plate to get
the cross member out anyway, so it shouldn't be quite so difficult.
While you've got the tank out inspect it carefully for rust, now would be
the least painful time to replace a 20 year old fuel tank.
Don't skimp and try to just weld extra metal over the rot. That's like
putting extra mustard on your sandwich to cover the taste of the bad
turkey. Either way you'll regret it later.
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, griffin wrote:
> Ya, it's only "fixed" in the sense that it's straight now. The entire hitch
> assembly bolts have ripped right through the frame bumper part at the back
> and is quite ready to come off at the slightest pull ...Speaking of which
> ...is there any easy way of replacing that piece ...it looks to be welded to
> the frame and is part of the Jeep frame member itself ...I'm going to get a
> local guy to build me a custom rear bumper next spring but it looks as
> though it either has to bolt to this piece or go around behind it and bolt
> through the frame.
>
> I'll have to take a picture since it's hard to describe ...unless someone
> out there has the same design ...
>
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:10mr89m41ik6k44@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>> "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:4LBad.74423$a41.40444@pd7tw2no...
>>> Well, I FINALLY got my '85 CJ7 into the mud for the first time since I
>>> bought it. She did surprisingly well considering it's mostly stock
> (WAYYYY
>>> better than my '88 YJ). I only got stuck twice in the 2 hours of pure
>>> mudding and both times I probably could have gotten out with a bit more
>>> effort (both times in the same damn spot too ...grr!). Anyways, I
> managed
>> to
>>> get her home and here was the damage report:
>>>
>>> 1. Rear bumper and hitch actually were FIXED. They were bent prior to
>> going
>>> out but I got hung up on the pavement as I was entering the offroad area
>> (2
>>> foot straight drop) and it bent it back into place ..lol. I took a bit
> of
>>> concrete with me too ...whoopsies.
>>
>>
>> I would take a very close look at that hitch if you "fixed" it that
> easily.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
On a CJ the rear bumper is the frame rear cross member. It is welded
along the top edge to the frame rails, I'm not sure if it is also welded
to the bottom of the rail or not, but hazy memory says it is. There are
also beads joining the frame rail to the member inside the channel of the
member, and that cross member is also your rear body mount points. I
don't have a catalog in front of me right now but either 4WD.com or
Quadratec (or both) sells new, heavy-duty rear cross members, prepunched
and ready to weld in. It'll be easier than having your local ironmonger
cobble up something that almost -- but not quite -- fits.
If your rear cross member has gone to cheese you should be prepared to do
some repair work to the last 18" of frame as well, especially the inner
face of the box. You'll need to drop the fuel tank and skid plate to get
the cross member out anyway, so it shouldn't be quite so difficult.
While you've got the tank out inspect it carefully for rust, now would be
the least painful time to replace a 20 year old fuel tank.
Don't skimp and try to just weld extra metal over the rot. That's like
putting extra mustard on your sandwich to cover the taste of the bad
turkey. Either way you'll regret it later.
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, griffin wrote:
> Ya, it's only "fixed" in the sense that it's straight now. The entire hitch
> assembly bolts have ripped right through the frame bumper part at the back
> and is quite ready to come off at the slightest pull ...Speaking of which
> ...is there any easy way of replacing that piece ...it looks to be welded to
> the frame and is part of the Jeep frame member itself ...I'm going to get a
> local guy to build me a custom rear bumper next spring but it looks as
> though it either has to bolt to this piece or go around behind it and bolt
> through the frame.
>
> I'll have to take a picture since it's hard to describe ...unless someone
> out there has the same design ...
>
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:10mr89m41ik6k44@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>> "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:4LBad.74423$a41.40444@pd7tw2no...
>>> Well, I FINALLY got my '85 CJ7 into the mud for the first time since I
>>> bought it. She did surprisingly well considering it's mostly stock
> (WAYYYY
>>> better than my '88 YJ). I only got stuck twice in the 2 hours of pure
>>> mudding and both times I probably could have gotten out with a bit more
>>> effort (both times in the same damn spot too ...grr!). Anyways, I
> managed
>> to
>>> get her home and here was the damage report:
>>>
>>> 1. Rear bumper and hitch actually were FIXED. They were bent prior to
>> going
>>> out but I got hung up on the pavement as I was entering the offroad area
>> (2
>>> foot straight drop) and it bent it back into place ..lol. I took a bit
> of
>>> concrete with me too ...whoopsies.
>>
>>
>> I would take a very close look at that hitch if you "fixed" it that
> easily.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
Guest
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Thx for the advice. I'll look into that over the winter and try and build
enuf of a Jeep fund to have that done. That rear "bumper" crossmember is
TOAST ...I'm not sure wth the previous owner was doing ...trying to pull a
house off it's foundation I'm guessing ...but he sure bent it and ripped it
all to shreds.
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410140903220.18193@panix3.pani x.com...
>
> On a CJ the rear bumper is the frame rear cross member. It is welded
> along the top edge to the frame rails, I'm not sure if it is also welded
> to the bottom of the rail or not, but hazy memory says it is. There are
> also beads joining the frame rail to the member inside the channel of the
> member, and that cross member is also your rear body mount points. I
> don't have a catalog in front of me right now but either 4WD.com or
> Quadratec (or both) sells new, heavy-duty rear cross members, prepunched
> and ready to weld in. It'll be easier than having your local ironmonger
> cobble up something that almost -- but not quite -- fits.
>
> If your rear cross member has gone to cheese you should be prepared to do
> some repair work to the last 18" of frame as well, especially the inner
> face of the box. You'll need to drop the fuel tank and skid plate to get
> the cross member out anyway, so it shouldn't be quite so difficult.
> While you've got the tank out inspect it carefully for rust, now would be
> the least painful time to replace a 20 year old fuel tank.
>
> Don't skimp and try to just weld extra metal over the rot. That's like
> putting extra mustard on your sandwich to cover the taste of the bad
> turkey. Either way you'll regret it later.
>
>
> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, griffin wrote:
>
> > Ya, it's only "fixed" in the sense that it's straight now. The entire
hitch
> > assembly bolts have ripped right through the frame bumper part at the
back
> > and is quite ready to come off at the slightest pull ...Speaking of
which
> > ...is there any easy way of replacing that piece ...it looks to be
welded to
> > the frame and is part of the Jeep frame member itself ...I'm going to
get a
> > local guy to build me a custom rear bumper next spring but it looks as
> > though it either has to bolt to this piece or go around behind it and
bolt
> > through the frame.
> >
> > I'll have to take a picture since it's hard to describe ...unless
someone
> > out there has the same design ...
> >
> >
> > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:10mr89m41ik6k44@corp.supernews.com...
> >>
> >> "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:4LBad.74423$a41.40444@pd7tw2no...
> >>> Well, I FINALLY got my '85 CJ7 into the mud for the first time since I
> >>> bought it. She did surprisingly well considering it's mostly stock
> > (WAYYYY
> >>> better than my '88 YJ). I only got stuck twice in the 2 hours of pure
> >>> mudding and both times I probably could have gotten out with a bit
more
> >>> effort (both times in the same damn spot too ...grr!). Anyways, I
> > managed
> >> to
> >>> get her home and here was the damage report:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Rear bumper and hitch actually were FIXED. They were bent prior to
> >> going
> >>> out but I got hung up on the pavement as I was entering the offroad
area
> >> (2
> >>> foot straight drop) and it bent it back into place ..lol. I took a bit
> > of
> >>> concrete with me too ...whoopsies.
> >>
> >>
> >> I would take a very close look at that hitch if you "fixed" it that
> > easily.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
enuf of a Jeep fund to have that done. That rear "bumper" crossmember is
TOAST ...I'm not sure wth the previous owner was doing ...trying to pull a
house off it's foundation I'm guessing ...but he sure bent it and ripped it
all to shreds.
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410140903220.18193@panix3.pani x.com...
>
> On a CJ the rear bumper is the frame rear cross member. It is welded
> along the top edge to the frame rails, I'm not sure if it is also welded
> to the bottom of the rail or not, but hazy memory says it is. There are
> also beads joining the frame rail to the member inside the channel of the
> member, and that cross member is also your rear body mount points. I
> don't have a catalog in front of me right now but either 4WD.com or
> Quadratec (or both) sells new, heavy-duty rear cross members, prepunched
> and ready to weld in. It'll be easier than having your local ironmonger
> cobble up something that almost -- but not quite -- fits.
>
> If your rear cross member has gone to cheese you should be prepared to do
> some repair work to the last 18" of frame as well, especially the inner
> face of the box. You'll need to drop the fuel tank and skid plate to get
> the cross member out anyway, so it shouldn't be quite so difficult.
> While you've got the tank out inspect it carefully for rust, now would be
> the least painful time to replace a 20 year old fuel tank.
>
> Don't skimp and try to just weld extra metal over the rot. That's like
> putting extra mustard on your sandwich to cover the taste of the bad
> turkey. Either way you'll regret it later.
>
>
> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, griffin wrote:
>
> > Ya, it's only "fixed" in the sense that it's straight now. The entire
hitch
> > assembly bolts have ripped right through the frame bumper part at the
back
> > and is quite ready to come off at the slightest pull ...Speaking of
which
> > ...is there any easy way of replacing that piece ...it looks to be
welded to
> > the frame and is part of the Jeep frame member itself ...I'm going to
get a
> > local guy to build me a custom rear bumper next spring but it looks as
> > though it either has to bolt to this piece or go around behind it and
bolt
> > through the frame.
> >
> > I'll have to take a picture since it's hard to describe ...unless
someone
> > out there has the same design ...
> >
> >
> > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:10mr89m41ik6k44@corp.supernews.com...
> >>
> >> "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:4LBad.74423$a41.40444@pd7tw2no...
> >>> Well, I FINALLY got my '85 CJ7 into the mud for the first time since I
> >>> bought it. She did surprisingly well considering it's mostly stock
> > (WAYYYY
> >>> better than my '88 YJ). I only got stuck twice in the 2 hours of pure
> >>> mudding and both times I probably could have gotten out with a bit
more
> >>> effort (both times in the same damn spot too ...grr!). Anyways, I
> > managed
> >> to
> >>> get her home and here was the damage report:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Rear bumper and hitch actually were FIXED. They were bent prior to
> >> going
> >>> out but I got hung up on the pavement as I was entering the offroad
area
> >> (2
> >>> foot straight drop) and it bent it back into place ..lol. I took a bit
> > of
> >>> concrete with me too ...whoopsies.
> >>
> >>
> >> I would take a very close look at that hitch if you "fixed" it that
> > easily.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
Guest
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Thx for the advice. I'll look into that over the winter and try and build
enuf of a Jeep fund to have that done. That rear "bumper" crossmember is
TOAST ...I'm not sure wth the previous owner was doing ...trying to pull a
house off it's foundation I'm guessing ...but he sure bent it and ripped it
all to shreds.
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410140903220.18193@panix3.pani x.com...
>
> On a CJ the rear bumper is the frame rear cross member. It is welded
> along the top edge to the frame rails, I'm not sure if it is also welded
> to the bottom of the rail or not, but hazy memory says it is. There are
> also beads joining the frame rail to the member inside the channel of the
> member, and that cross member is also your rear body mount points. I
> don't have a catalog in front of me right now but either 4WD.com or
> Quadratec (or both) sells new, heavy-duty rear cross members, prepunched
> and ready to weld in. It'll be easier than having your local ironmonger
> cobble up something that almost -- but not quite -- fits.
>
> If your rear cross member has gone to cheese you should be prepared to do
> some repair work to the last 18" of frame as well, especially the inner
> face of the box. You'll need to drop the fuel tank and skid plate to get
> the cross member out anyway, so it shouldn't be quite so difficult.
> While you've got the tank out inspect it carefully for rust, now would be
> the least painful time to replace a 20 year old fuel tank.
>
> Don't skimp and try to just weld extra metal over the rot. That's like
> putting extra mustard on your sandwich to cover the taste of the bad
> turkey. Either way you'll regret it later.
>
>
> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, griffin wrote:
>
> > Ya, it's only "fixed" in the sense that it's straight now. The entire
hitch
> > assembly bolts have ripped right through the frame bumper part at the
back
> > and is quite ready to come off at the slightest pull ...Speaking of
which
> > ...is there any easy way of replacing that piece ...it looks to be
welded to
> > the frame and is part of the Jeep frame member itself ...I'm going to
get a
> > local guy to build me a custom rear bumper next spring but it looks as
> > though it either has to bolt to this piece or go around behind it and
bolt
> > through the frame.
> >
> > I'll have to take a picture since it's hard to describe ...unless
someone
> > out there has the same design ...
> >
> >
> > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:10mr89m41ik6k44@corp.supernews.com...
> >>
> >> "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:4LBad.74423$a41.40444@pd7tw2no...
> >>> Well, I FINALLY got my '85 CJ7 into the mud for the first time since I
> >>> bought it. She did surprisingly well considering it's mostly stock
> > (WAYYYY
> >>> better than my '88 YJ). I only got stuck twice in the 2 hours of pure
> >>> mudding and both times I probably could have gotten out with a bit
more
> >>> effort (both times in the same damn spot too ...grr!). Anyways, I
> > managed
> >> to
> >>> get her home and here was the damage report:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Rear bumper and hitch actually were FIXED. They were bent prior to
> >> going
> >>> out but I got hung up on the pavement as I was entering the offroad
area
> >> (2
> >>> foot straight drop) and it bent it back into place ..lol. I took a bit
> > of
> >>> concrete with me too ...whoopsies.
> >>
> >>
> >> I would take a very close look at that hitch if you "fixed" it that
> > easily.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
enuf of a Jeep fund to have that done. That rear "bumper" crossmember is
TOAST ...I'm not sure wth the previous owner was doing ...trying to pull a
house off it's foundation I'm guessing ...but he sure bent it and ripped it
all to shreds.
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410140903220.18193@panix3.pani x.com...
>
> On a CJ the rear bumper is the frame rear cross member. It is welded
> along the top edge to the frame rails, I'm not sure if it is also welded
> to the bottom of the rail or not, but hazy memory says it is. There are
> also beads joining the frame rail to the member inside the channel of the
> member, and that cross member is also your rear body mount points. I
> don't have a catalog in front of me right now but either 4WD.com or
> Quadratec (or both) sells new, heavy-duty rear cross members, prepunched
> and ready to weld in. It'll be easier than having your local ironmonger
> cobble up something that almost -- but not quite -- fits.
>
> If your rear cross member has gone to cheese you should be prepared to do
> some repair work to the last 18" of frame as well, especially the inner
> face of the box. You'll need to drop the fuel tank and skid plate to get
> the cross member out anyway, so it shouldn't be quite so difficult.
> While you've got the tank out inspect it carefully for rust, now would be
> the least painful time to replace a 20 year old fuel tank.
>
> Don't skimp and try to just weld extra metal over the rot. That's like
> putting extra mustard on your sandwich to cover the taste of the bad
> turkey. Either way you'll regret it later.
>
>
> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, griffin wrote:
>
> > Ya, it's only "fixed" in the sense that it's straight now. The entire
hitch
> > assembly bolts have ripped right through the frame bumper part at the
back
> > and is quite ready to come off at the slightest pull ...Speaking of
which
> > ...is there any easy way of replacing that piece ...it looks to be
welded to
> > the frame and is part of the Jeep frame member itself ...I'm going to
get a
> > local guy to build me a custom rear bumper next spring but it looks as
> > though it either has to bolt to this piece or go around behind it and
bolt
> > through the frame.
> >
> > I'll have to take a picture since it's hard to describe ...unless
someone
> > out there has the same design ...
> >
> >
> > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:10mr89m41ik6k44@corp.supernews.com...
> >>
> >> "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:4LBad.74423$a41.40444@pd7tw2no...
> >>> Well, I FINALLY got my '85 CJ7 into the mud for the first time since I
> >>> bought it. She did surprisingly well considering it's mostly stock
> > (WAYYYY
> >>> better than my '88 YJ). I only got stuck twice in the 2 hours of pure
> >>> mudding and both times I probably could have gotten out with a bit
more
> >>> effort (both times in the same damn spot too ...grr!). Anyways, I
> > managed
> >> to
> >>> get her home and here was the damage report:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Rear bumper and hitch actually were FIXED. They were bent prior to
> >> going
> >>> out but I got hung up on the pavement as I was entering the offroad
area
> >> (2
> >>> foot straight drop) and it bent it back into place ..lol. I took a bit
> > of
> >>> concrete with me too ...whoopsies.
> >>
> >>
> >> I would take a very close look at that hitch if you "fixed" it that
> > easily.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
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Thx for the advice. I'll look into that over the winter and try and build
enuf of a Jeep fund to have that done. That rear "bumper" crossmember is
TOAST ...I'm not sure wth the previous owner was doing ...trying to pull a
house off it's foundation I'm guessing ...but he sure bent it and ripped it
all to shreds.
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410140903220.18193@panix3.pani x.com...
>
> On a CJ the rear bumper is the frame rear cross member. It is welded
> along the top edge to the frame rails, I'm not sure if it is also welded
> to the bottom of the rail or not, but hazy memory says it is. There are
> also beads joining the frame rail to the member inside the channel of the
> member, and that cross member is also your rear body mount points. I
> don't have a catalog in front of me right now but either 4WD.com or
> Quadratec (or both) sells new, heavy-duty rear cross members, prepunched
> and ready to weld in. It'll be easier than having your local ironmonger
> cobble up something that almost -- but not quite -- fits.
>
> If your rear cross member has gone to cheese you should be prepared to do
> some repair work to the last 18" of frame as well, especially the inner
> face of the box. You'll need to drop the fuel tank and skid plate to get
> the cross member out anyway, so it shouldn't be quite so difficult.
> While you've got the tank out inspect it carefully for rust, now would be
> the least painful time to replace a 20 year old fuel tank.
>
> Don't skimp and try to just weld extra metal over the rot. That's like
> putting extra mustard on your sandwich to cover the taste of the bad
> turkey. Either way you'll regret it later.
>
>
> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, griffin wrote:
>
> > Ya, it's only "fixed" in the sense that it's straight now. The entire
hitch
> > assembly bolts have ripped right through the frame bumper part at the
back
> > and is quite ready to come off at the slightest pull ...Speaking of
which
> > ...is there any easy way of replacing that piece ...it looks to be
welded to
> > the frame and is part of the Jeep frame member itself ...I'm going to
get a
> > local guy to build me a custom rear bumper next spring but it looks as
> > though it either has to bolt to this piece or go around behind it and
bolt
> > through the frame.
> >
> > I'll have to take a picture since it's hard to describe ...unless
someone
> > out there has the same design ...
> >
> >
> > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:10mr89m41ik6k44@corp.supernews.com...
> >>
> >> "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:4LBad.74423$a41.40444@pd7tw2no...
> >>> Well, I FINALLY got my '85 CJ7 into the mud for the first time since I
> >>> bought it. She did surprisingly well considering it's mostly stock
> > (WAYYYY
> >>> better than my '88 YJ). I only got stuck twice in the 2 hours of pure
> >>> mudding and both times I probably could have gotten out with a bit
more
> >>> effort (both times in the same damn spot too ...grr!). Anyways, I
> > managed
> >> to
> >>> get her home and here was the damage report:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Rear bumper and hitch actually were FIXED. They were bent prior to
> >> going
> >>> out but I got hung up on the pavement as I was entering the offroad
area
> >> (2
> >>> foot straight drop) and it bent it back into place ..lol. I took a bit
> > of
> >>> concrete with me too ...whoopsies.
> >>
> >>
> >> I would take a very close look at that hitch if you "fixed" it that
> > easily.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
enuf of a Jeep fund to have that done. That rear "bumper" crossmember is
TOAST ...I'm not sure wth the previous owner was doing ...trying to pull a
house off it's foundation I'm guessing ...but he sure bent it and ripped it
all to shreds.
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410140903220.18193@panix3.pani x.com...
>
> On a CJ the rear bumper is the frame rear cross member. It is welded
> along the top edge to the frame rails, I'm not sure if it is also welded
> to the bottom of the rail or not, but hazy memory says it is. There are
> also beads joining the frame rail to the member inside the channel of the
> member, and that cross member is also your rear body mount points. I
> don't have a catalog in front of me right now but either 4WD.com or
> Quadratec (or both) sells new, heavy-duty rear cross members, prepunched
> and ready to weld in. It'll be easier than having your local ironmonger
> cobble up something that almost -- but not quite -- fits.
>
> If your rear cross member has gone to cheese you should be prepared to do
> some repair work to the last 18" of frame as well, especially the inner
> face of the box. You'll need to drop the fuel tank and skid plate to get
> the cross member out anyway, so it shouldn't be quite so difficult.
> While you've got the tank out inspect it carefully for rust, now would be
> the least painful time to replace a 20 year old fuel tank.
>
> Don't skimp and try to just weld extra metal over the rot. That's like
> putting extra mustard on your sandwich to cover the taste of the bad
> turkey. Either way you'll regret it later.
>
>
> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, griffin wrote:
>
> > Ya, it's only "fixed" in the sense that it's straight now. The entire
hitch
> > assembly bolts have ripped right through the frame bumper part at the
back
> > and is quite ready to come off at the slightest pull ...Speaking of
which
> > ...is there any easy way of replacing that piece ...it looks to be
welded to
> > the frame and is part of the Jeep frame member itself ...I'm going to
get a
> > local guy to build me a custom rear bumper next spring but it looks as
> > though it either has to bolt to this piece or go around behind it and
bolt
> > through the frame.
> >
> > I'll have to take a picture since it's hard to describe ...unless
someone
> > out there has the same design ...
> >
> >
> > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:10mr89m41ik6k44@corp.supernews.com...
> >>
> >> "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:4LBad.74423$a41.40444@pd7tw2no...
> >>> Well, I FINALLY got my '85 CJ7 into the mud for the first time since I
> >>> bought it. She did surprisingly well considering it's mostly stock
> > (WAYYYY
> >>> better than my '88 YJ). I only got stuck twice in the 2 hours of pure
> >>> mudding and both times I probably could have gotten out with a bit
more
> >>> effort (both times in the same damn spot too ...grr!). Anyways, I
> > managed
> >> to
> >>> get her home and here was the damage report:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Rear bumper and hitch actually were FIXED. They were bent prior to
> >> going
> >>> out but I got hung up on the pavement as I was entering the offroad
area
> >> (2
> >>> foot straight drop) and it bent it back into place ..lol. I took a bit
> > of
> >>> concrete with me too ...whoopsies.
> >>
> >>
> >> I would take a very close look at that hitch if you "fixed" it that
> > easily.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
Guest
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Mine is toast too.
I need the back 8" of frame as well.....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
griffin wrote:
>
> Thx for the advice. I'll look into that over the winter and try and build
> enuf of a Jeep fund to have that done. That rear "bumper" crossmember is
> TOAST ...I'm not sure wth the previous owner was doing ...trying to pull a
> house off it's foundation I'm guessing ...but he sure bent it and ripped it
> all to shreds.
>
> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410140903220.18193@panix3.pani x.com...
> >
> > On a CJ the rear bumper is the frame rear cross member. It is welded
> > along the top edge to the frame rails, I'm not sure if it is also welded
> > to the bottom of the rail or not, but hazy memory says it is. There are
> > also beads joining the frame rail to the member inside the channel of the
> > member, and that cross member is also your rear body mount points. I
> > don't have a catalog in front of me right now but either 4WD.com or
> > Quadratec (or both) sells new, heavy-duty rear cross members, prepunched
> > and ready to weld in. It'll be easier than having your local ironmonger
> > cobble up something that almost -- but not quite -- fits.
> >
> > If your rear cross member has gone to cheese you should be prepared to do
> > some repair work to the last 18" of frame as well, especially the inner
> > face of the box. You'll need to drop the fuel tank and skid plate to get
> > the cross member out anyway, so it shouldn't be quite so difficult.
> > While you've got the tank out inspect it carefully for rust, now would be
> > the least painful time to replace a 20 year old fuel tank.
> >
> > Don't skimp and try to just weld extra metal over the rot. That's like
> > putting extra mustard on your sandwich to cover the taste of the bad
> > turkey. Either way you'll regret it later.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, griffin wrote:
> >
> > > Ya, it's only "fixed" in the sense that it's straight now. The entire
> hitch
> > > assembly bolts have ripped right through the frame bumper part at the
> back
> > > and is quite ready to come off at the slightest pull ...Speaking of
> which
> > > ...is there any easy way of replacing that piece ...it looks to be
> welded to
> > > the frame and is part of the Jeep frame member itself ...I'm going to
> get a
> > > local guy to build me a custom rear bumper next spring but it looks as
> > > though it either has to bolt to this piece or go around behind it and
> bolt
> > > through the frame.
> > >
> > > I'll have to take a picture since it's hard to describe ...unless
> someone
> > > out there has the same design ...
> > >
> > >
> > > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:10mr89m41ik6k44@corp.supernews.com...
> > >>
> > >> "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
> > >> news:4LBad.74423$a41.40444@pd7tw2no...
> > >>> Well, I FINALLY got my '85 CJ7 into the mud for the first time since I
> > >>> bought it. She did surprisingly well considering it's mostly stock
> > > (WAYYYY
> > >>> better than my '88 YJ). I only got stuck twice in the 2 hours of pure
> > >>> mudding and both times I probably could have gotten out with a bit
> more
> > >>> effort (both times in the same damn spot too ...grr!). Anyways, I
> > > managed
> > >> to
> > >>> get her home and here was the damage report:
> > >>>
> > >>> 1. Rear bumper and hitch actually were FIXED. They were bent prior to
> > >> going
> > >>> out but I got hung up on the pavement as I was entering the offroad
> area
> > >> (2
> > >>> foot straight drop) and it bent it back into place ..lol. I took a bit
> > > of
> > >>> concrete with me too ...whoopsies.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I would take a very close look at that hitch if you "fixed" it that
> > > easily.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
I need the back 8" of frame as well.....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
griffin wrote:
>
> Thx for the advice. I'll look into that over the winter and try and build
> enuf of a Jeep fund to have that done. That rear "bumper" crossmember is
> TOAST ...I'm not sure wth the previous owner was doing ...trying to pull a
> house off it's foundation I'm guessing ...but he sure bent it and ripped it
> all to shreds.
>
> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410140903220.18193@panix3.pani x.com...
> >
> > On a CJ the rear bumper is the frame rear cross member. It is welded
> > along the top edge to the frame rails, I'm not sure if it is also welded
> > to the bottom of the rail or not, but hazy memory says it is. There are
> > also beads joining the frame rail to the member inside the channel of the
> > member, and that cross member is also your rear body mount points. I
> > don't have a catalog in front of me right now but either 4WD.com or
> > Quadratec (or both) sells new, heavy-duty rear cross members, prepunched
> > and ready to weld in. It'll be easier than having your local ironmonger
> > cobble up something that almost -- but not quite -- fits.
> >
> > If your rear cross member has gone to cheese you should be prepared to do
> > some repair work to the last 18" of frame as well, especially the inner
> > face of the box. You'll need to drop the fuel tank and skid plate to get
> > the cross member out anyway, so it shouldn't be quite so difficult.
> > While you've got the tank out inspect it carefully for rust, now would be
> > the least painful time to replace a 20 year old fuel tank.
> >
> > Don't skimp and try to just weld extra metal over the rot. That's like
> > putting extra mustard on your sandwich to cover the taste of the bad
> > turkey. Either way you'll regret it later.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, griffin wrote:
> >
> > > Ya, it's only "fixed" in the sense that it's straight now. The entire
> hitch
> > > assembly bolts have ripped right through the frame bumper part at the
> back
> > > and is quite ready to come off at the slightest pull ...Speaking of
> which
> > > ...is there any easy way of replacing that piece ...it looks to be
> welded to
> > > the frame and is part of the Jeep frame member itself ...I'm going to
> get a
> > > local guy to build me a custom rear bumper next spring but it looks as
> > > though it either has to bolt to this piece or go around behind it and
> bolt
> > > through the frame.
> > >
> > > I'll have to take a picture since it's hard to describe ...unless
> someone
> > > out there has the same design ...
> > >
> > >
> > > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:10mr89m41ik6k44@corp.supernews.com...
> > >>
> > >> "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
> > >> news:4LBad.74423$a41.40444@pd7tw2no...
> > >>> Well, I FINALLY got my '85 CJ7 into the mud for the first time since I
> > >>> bought it. She did surprisingly well considering it's mostly stock
> > > (WAYYYY
> > >>> better than my '88 YJ). I only got stuck twice in the 2 hours of pure
> > >>> mudding and both times I probably could have gotten out with a bit
> more
> > >>> effort (both times in the same damn spot too ...grr!). Anyways, I
> > > managed
> > >> to
> > >>> get her home and here was the damage report:
> > >>>
> > >>> 1. Rear bumper and hitch actually were FIXED. They were bent prior to
> > >> going
> > >>> out but I got hung up on the pavement as I was entering the offroad
> area
> > >> (2
> > >>> foot straight drop) and it bent it back into place ..lol. I took a bit
> > > of
> > >>> concrete with me too ...whoopsies.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I would take a very close look at that hitch if you "fixed" it that
> > > easily.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >


