strange rattle noise GONE
04-20-2005, 01:34 PM
#21
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Re: strange rattle noise GONE
I just found out that I snapped my rad in half for the 3rd time when I
saw the crack while giving a boost yesterday!
Grr, I snapped one side strap, so bolted it back together and snapped
that again so welded a bar on the side in this shape: [
Now the other side is snapped after my camping trip last weekend. Oh
well, time for a reinforcing bar on that side too.
My rad is free standing and has lasted 5 years. I need to keep it going
for a while longer, then I am going to a 3 core rad.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>
> I didn't figure they were really important, I was shocked when I saw the
> plastic sprocket. It's all good now, Jeeps happy again....gonna need a rad
> soon, but thats easy.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4266827C.91C4DAF5@sympatico.ca...
> > Cool, those plastic ones are crap.
> >
> > Those flanges are supposed to be the guides for the chain and I guess
> > the strange rattle they make when the chain hits them is the way to tell
> > it's worn out.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >>
> >> no no, thats what was IN there. I changed it to metal.
> >>
> >> I didn't say there was a tensioner, just wondering what the flanges are
> >> for.....easy Mike....bring the pulse back down, heheh
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:4266793E.856202F0@sympatico.ca...
> >> > Arggg! You didn't get one of those stupid plastic gear sets did you?
> >> > That is some wacky invention of DC's they started using for the YJ as
> >> > 'planned obsolescence' because the real ones last forever.... The only
> >> > failed 258 timing sets I have seen were the plastic ones.
> >> >
> >> > The real ones are steel all the way!
> >> >
> >> > There is no tensioner for the 258 timing chain. Oh crap, here we go,
> >> > one of those so called Jeep 'mechanics' that posts here swears there is
> >> > a tensioner, he is full of BS as usual.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> well, we pulled the timing chain off and it was sloppy as all hell.
> >> >> There
> >> >> are two flanges on the cover, looks like a tensioner goes there maybe,
> >> >> they
> >> >> were almost eaten off! I was HAPPY to see that. So, the noise is gone
> >> >> AND
> >> >> it
> >> >> seems more responsive at higher RPM, is that my imagination?
> >> >>
> >> >> Also, are the factory chains all cast nylon over aluminum? Just
> >> >> curious.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks for all the input to!
saw the crack while giving a boost yesterday!
Grr, I snapped one side strap, so bolted it back together and snapped
that again so welded a bar on the side in this shape: [
Now the other side is snapped after my camping trip last weekend. Oh
well, time for a reinforcing bar on that side too.
My rad is free standing and has lasted 5 years. I need to keep it going
for a while longer, then I am going to a 3 core rad.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>
> I didn't figure they were really important, I was shocked when I saw the
> plastic sprocket. It's all good now, Jeeps happy again....gonna need a rad
> soon, but thats easy.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4266827C.91C4DAF5@sympatico.ca...
> > Cool, those plastic ones are crap.
> >
> > Those flanges are supposed to be the guides for the chain and I guess
> > the strange rattle they make when the chain hits them is the way to tell
> > it's worn out.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >>
> >> no no, thats what was IN there. I changed it to metal.
> >>
> >> I didn't say there was a tensioner, just wondering what the flanges are
> >> for.....easy Mike....bring the pulse back down, heheh
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:4266793E.856202F0@sympatico.ca...
> >> > Arggg! You didn't get one of those stupid plastic gear sets did you?
> >> > That is some wacky invention of DC's they started using for the YJ as
> >> > 'planned obsolescence' because the real ones last forever.... The only
> >> > failed 258 timing sets I have seen were the plastic ones.
> >> >
> >> > The real ones are steel all the way!
> >> >
> >> > There is no tensioner for the 258 timing chain. Oh crap, here we go,
> >> > one of those so called Jeep 'mechanics' that posts here swears there is
> >> > a tensioner, he is full of BS as usual.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> well, we pulled the timing chain off and it was sloppy as all hell.
> >> >> There
> >> >> are two flanges on the cover, looks like a tensioner goes there maybe,
> >> >> they
> >> >> were almost eaten off! I was HAPPY to see that. So, the noise is gone
> >> >> AND
> >> >> it
> >> >> seems more responsive at higher RPM, is that my imagination?
> >> >>
> >> >> Also, are the factory chains all cast nylon over aluminum? Just
> >> >> curious.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks for all the input to!
04-20-2005, 02:01 PM
#22
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Posts: n/a
Re: strange rattle noise GONE
Do you think it's worth spending big bucks on an aluminum rad? Mine will
survive a while but gonna have to do something.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:426692BC.658588C1@sympatico.ca...
>I just found out that I snapped my rad in half for the 3rd time when I
> saw the crack while giving a boost yesterday!
>
> Grr, I snapped one side strap, so bolted it back together and snapped
> that again so welded a bar on the side in this shape: [
>
> Now the other side is snapped after my camping trip last weekend. Oh
> well, time for a reinforcing bar on that side too.
>
> My rad is free standing and has lasted 5 years. I need to keep it going
> for a while longer, then I am going to a 3 core rad.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>>
>> I didn't figure they were really important, I was shocked when I saw the
>> plastic sprocket. It's all good now, Jeeps happy again....gonna need a
>> rad
>> soon, but thats easy.
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:4266827C.91C4DAF5@sympatico.ca...
>> > Cool, those plastic ones are crap.
>> >
>> > Those flanges are supposed to be the guides for the chain and I guess
>> > the strange rattle they make when the chain hits them is the way to
>> > tell
>> > it's worn out.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >>
>> >> no no, thats what was IN there. I changed it to metal.
>> >>
>> >> I didn't say there was a tensioner, just wondering what the flanges
>> >> are
>> >> for.....easy Mike....bring the pulse back down, heheh
>> >>
>> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >> news:4266793E.856202F0@sympatico.ca...
>> >> > Arggg! You didn't get one of those stupid plastic gear sets did
>> >> > you?
>> >> > That is some wacky invention of DC's they started using for the YJ
>> >> > as
>> >> > 'planned obsolescence' because the real ones last forever.... The
>> >> > only
>> >> > failed 258 timing sets I have seen were the plastic ones.
>> >> >
>> >> > The real ones are steel all the way!
>> >> >
>> >> > There is no tensioner for the 258 timing chain. Oh crap, here we
>> >> > go,
>> >> > one of those so called Jeep 'mechanics' that posts here swears there
>> >> > is
>> >> > a tensioner, he is full of BS as usual.
>> >> >
>> >> > Mike
>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >> >
>> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> well, we pulled the timing chain off and it was sloppy as all hell.
>> >> >> There
>> >> >> are two flanges on the cover, looks like a tensioner goes there
>> >> >> maybe,
>> >> >> they
>> >> >> were almost eaten off! I was HAPPY to see that. So, the noise is
>> >> >> gone
>> >> >> AND
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> seems more responsive at higher RPM, is that my imagination?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Also, are the factory chains all cast nylon over aluminum? Just
>> >> >> curious.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks for all the input to!
survive a while but gonna have to do something.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:426692BC.658588C1@sympatico.ca...
>I just found out that I snapped my rad in half for the 3rd time when I
> saw the crack while giving a boost yesterday!
>
> Grr, I snapped one side strap, so bolted it back together and snapped
> that again so welded a bar on the side in this shape: [
>
> Now the other side is snapped after my camping trip last weekend. Oh
> well, time for a reinforcing bar on that side too.
>
> My rad is free standing and has lasted 5 years. I need to keep it going
> for a while longer, then I am going to a 3 core rad.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>>
>> I didn't figure they were really important, I was shocked when I saw the
>> plastic sprocket. It's all good now, Jeeps happy again....gonna need a
>> rad
>> soon, but thats easy.
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:4266827C.91C4DAF5@sympatico.ca...
>> > Cool, those plastic ones are crap.
>> >
>> > Those flanges are supposed to be the guides for the chain and I guess
>> > the strange rattle they make when the chain hits them is the way to
>> > tell
>> > it's worn out.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >>
>> >> no no, thats what was IN there. I changed it to metal.
>> >>
>> >> I didn't say there was a tensioner, just wondering what the flanges
>> >> are
>> >> for.....easy Mike....bring the pulse back down, heheh
>> >>
>> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >> news:4266793E.856202F0@sympatico.ca...
>> >> > Arggg! You didn't get one of those stupid plastic gear sets did
>> >> > you?
>> >> > That is some wacky invention of DC's they started using for the YJ
>> >> > as
>> >> > 'planned obsolescence' because the real ones last forever.... The
>> >> > only
>> >> > failed 258 timing sets I have seen were the plastic ones.
>> >> >
>> >> > The real ones are steel all the way!
>> >> >
>> >> > There is no tensioner for the 258 timing chain. Oh crap, here we
>> >> > go,
>> >> > one of those so called Jeep 'mechanics' that posts here swears there
>> >> > is
>> >> > a tensioner, he is full of BS as usual.
>> >> >
>> >> > Mike
>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >> >
>> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> well, we pulled the timing chain off and it was sloppy as all hell.
>> >> >> There
>> >> >> are two flanges on the cover, looks like a tensioner goes there
>> >> >> maybe,
>> >> >> they
>> >> >> were almost eaten off! I was HAPPY to see that. So, the noise is
>> >> >> gone
>> >> >> AND
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> seems more responsive at higher RPM, is that my imagination?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Also, are the factory chains all cast nylon over aluminum? Just
>> >> >> curious.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks for all the input to!
04-20-2005, 02:01 PM
#23
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: strange rattle noise GONE
Do you think it's worth spending big bucks on an aluminum rad? Mine will
survive a while but gonna have to do something.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:426692BC.658588C1@sympatico.ca...
>I just found out that I snapped my rad in half for the 3rd time when I
> saw the crack while giving a boost yesterday!
>
> Grr, I snapped one side strap, so bolted it back together and snapped
> that again so welded a bar on the side in this shape: [
>
> Now the other side is snapped after my camping trip last weekend. Oh
> well, time for a reinforcing bar on that side too.
>
> My rad is free standing and has lasted 5 years. I need to keep it going
> for a while longer, then I am going to a 3 core rad.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>>
>> I didn't figure they were really important, I was shocked when I saw the
>> plastic sprocket. It's all good now, Jeeps happy again....gonna need a
>> rad
>> soon, but thats easy.
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:4266827C.91C4DAF5@sympatico.ca...
>> > Cool, those plastic ones are crap.
>> >
>> > Those flanges are supposed to be the guides for the chain and I guess
>> > the strange rattle they make when the chain hits them is the way to
>> > tell
>> > it's worn out.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >>
>> >> no no, thats what was IN there. I changed it to metal.
>> >>
>> >> I didn't say there was a tensioner, just wondering what the flanges
>> >> are
>> >> for.....easy Mike....bring the pulse back down, heheh
>> >>
>> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >> news:4266793E.856202F0@sympatico.ca...
>> >> > Arggg! You didn't get one of those stupid plastic gear sets did
>> >> > you?
>> >> > That is some wacky invention of DC's they started using for the YJ
>> >> > as
>> >> > 'planned obsolescence' because the real ones last forever.... The
>> >> > only
>> >> > failed 258 timing sets I have seen were the plastic ones.
>> >> >
>> >> > The real ones are steel all the way!
>> >> >
>> >> > There is no tensioner for the 258 timing chain. Oh crap, here we
>> >> > go,
>> >> > one of those so called Jeep 'mechanics' that posts here swears there
>> >> > is
>> >> > a tensioner, he is full of BS as usual.
>> >> >
>> >> > Mike
>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >> >
>> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> well, we pulled the timing chain off and it was sloppy as all hell.
>> >> >> There
>> >> >> are two flanges on the cover, looks like a tensioner goes there
>> >> >> maybe,
>> >> >> they
>> >> >> were almost eaten off! I was HAPPY to see that. So, the noise is
>> >> >> gone
>> >> >> AND
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> seems more responsive at higher RPM, is that my imagination?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Also, are the factory chains all cast nylon over aluminum? Just
>> >> >> curious.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks for all the input to!
survive a while but gonna have to do something.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:426692BC.658588C1@sympatico.ca...
>I just found out that I snapped my rad in half for the 3rd time when I
> saw the crack while giving a boost yesterday!
>
> Grr, I snapped one side strap, so bolted it back together and snapped
> that again so welded a bar on the side in this shape: [
>
> Now the other side is snapped after my camping trip last weekend. Oh
> well, time for a reinforcing bar on that side too.
>
> My rad is free standing and has lasted 5 years. I need to keep it going
> for a while longer, then I am going to a 3 core rad.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>>
>> I didn't figure they were really important, I was shocked when I saw the
>> plastic sprocket. It's all good now, Jeeps happy again....gonna need a
>> rad
>> soon, but thats easy.
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:4266827C.91C4DAF5@sympatico.ca...
>> > Cool, those plastic ones are crap.
>> >
>> > Those flanges are supposed to be the guides for the chain and I guess
>> > the strange rattle they make when the chain hits them is the way to
>> > tell
>> > it's worn out.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >>
>> >> no no, thats what was IN there. I changed it to metal.
>> >>
>> >> I didn't say there was a tensioner, just wondering what the flanges
>> >> are
>> >> for.....easy Mike....bring the pulse back down, heheh
>> >>
>> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >> news:4266793E.856202F0@sympatico.ca...
>> >> > Arggg! You didn't get one of those stupid plastic gear sets did
>> >> > you?
>> >> > That is some wacky invention of DC's they started using for the YJ
>> >> > as
>> >> > 'planned obsolescence' because the real ones last forever.... The
>> >> > only
>> >> > failed 258 timing sets I have seen were the plastic ones.
>> >> >
>> >> > The real ones are steel all the way!
>> >> >
>> >> > There is no tensioner for the 258 timing chain. Oh crap, here we
>> >> > go,
>> >> > one of those so called Jeep 'mechanics' that posts here swears there
>> >> > is
>> >> > a tensioner, he is full of BS as usual.
>> >> >
>> >> > Mike
>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >> >
>> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> well, we pulled the timing chain off and it was sloppy as all hell.
>> >> >> There
>> >> >> are two flanges on the cover, looks like a tensioner goes there
>> >> >> maybe,
>> >> >> they
>> >> >> were almost eaten off! I was HAPPY to see that. So, the noise is
>> >> >> gone
>> >> >> AND
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> seems more responsive at higher RPM, is that my imagination?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Also, are the factory chains all cast nylon over aluminum? Just
>> >> >> curious.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks for all the input to!
04-20-2005, 02:01 PM
#24
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: strange rattle noise GONE
Do you think it's worth spending big bucks on an aluminum rad? Mine will
survive a while but gonna have to do something.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:426692BC.658588C1@sympatico.ca...
>I just found out that I snapped my rad in half for the 3rd time when I
> saw the crack while giving a boost yesterday!
>
> Grr, I snapped one side strap, so bolted it back together and snapped
> that again so welded a bar on the side in this shape: [
>
> Now the other side is snapped after my camping trip last weekend. Oh
> well, time for a reinforcing bar on that side too.
>
> My rad is free standing and has lasted 5 years. I need to keep it going
> for a while longer, then I am going to a 3 core rad.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>>
>> I didn't figure they were really important, I was shocked when I saw the
>> plastic sprocket. It's all good now, Jeeps happy again....gonna need a
>> rad
>> soon, but thats easy.
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:4266827C.91C4DAF5@sympatico.ca...
>> > Cool, those plastic ones are crap.
>> >
>> > Those flanges are supposed to be the guides for the chain and I guess
>> > the strange rattle they make when the chain hits them is the way to
>> > tell
>> > it's worn out.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >>
>> >> no no, thats what was IN there. I changed it to metal.
>> >>
>> >> I didn't say there was a tensioner, just wondering what the flanges
>> >> are
>> >> for.....easy Mike....bring the pulse back down, heheh
>> >>
>> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >> news:4266793E.856202F0@sympatico.ca...
>> >> > Arggg! You didn't get one of those stupid plastic gear sets did
>> >> > you?
>> >> > That is some wacky invention of DC's they started using for the YJ
>> >> > as
>> >> > 'planned obsolescence' because the real ones last forever.... The
>> >> > only
>> >> > failed 258 timing sets I have seen were the plastic ones.
>> >> >
>> >> > The real ones are steel all the way!
>> >> >
>> >> > There is no tensioner for the 258 timing chain. Oh crap, here we
>> >> > go,
>> >> > one of those so called Jeep 'mechanics' that posts here swears there
>> >> > is
>> >> > a tensioner, he is full of BS as usual.
>> >> >
>> >> > Mike
>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >> >
>> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> well, we pulled the timing chain off and it was sloppy as all hell.
>> >> >> There
>> >> >> are two flanges on the cover, looks like a tensioner goes there
>> >> >> maybe,
>> >> >> they
>> >> >> were almost eaten off! I was HAPPY to see that. So, the noise is
>> >> >> gone
>> >> >> AND
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> seems more responsive at higher RPM, is that my imagination?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Also, are the factory chains all cast nylon over aluminum? Just
>> >> >> curious.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks for all the input to!
survive a while but gonna have to do something.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:426692BC.658588C1@sympatico.ca...
>I just found out that I snapped my rad in half for the 3rd time when I
> saw the crack while giving a boost yesterday!
>
> Grr, I snapped one side strap, so bolted it back together and snapped
> that again so welded a bar on the side in this shape: [
>
> Now the other side is snapped after my camping trip last weekend. Oh
> well, time for a reinforcing bar on that side too.
>
> My rad is free standing and has lasted 5 years. I need to keep it going
> for a while longer, then I am going to a 3 core rad.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>>
>> I didn't figure they were really important, I was shocked when I saw the
>> plastic sprocket. It's all good now, Jeeps happy again....gonna need a
>> rad
>> soon, but thats easy.
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:4266827C.91C4DAF5@sympatico.ca...
>> > Cool, those plastic ones are crap.
>> >
>> > Those flanges are supposed to be the guides for the chain and I guess
>> > the strange rattle they make when the chain hits them is the way to
>> > tell
>> > it's worn out.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >>
>> >> no no, thats what was IN there. I changed it to metal.
>> >>
>> >> I didn't say there was a tensioner, just wondering what the flanges
>> >> are
>> >> for.....easy Mike....bring the pulse back down, heheh
>> >>
>> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >> news:4266793E.856202F0@sympatico.ca...
>> >> > Arggg! You didn't get one of those stupid plastic gear sets did
>> >> > you?
>> >> > That is some wacky invention of DC's they started using for the YJ
>> >> > as
>> >> > 'planned obsolescence' because the real ones last forever.... The
>> >> > only
>> >> > failed 258 timing sets I have seen were the plastic ones.
>> >> >
>> >> > The real ones are steel all the way!
>> >> >
>> >> > There is no tensioner for the 258 timing chain. Oh crap, here we
>> >> > go,
>> >> > one of those so called Jeep 'mechanics' that posts here swears there
>> >> > is
>> >> > a tensioner, he is full of BS as usual.
>> >> >
>> >> > Mike
>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >> >
>> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> well, we pulled the timing chain off and it was sloppy as all hell.
>> >> >> There
>> >> >> are two flanges on the cover, looks like a tensioner goes there
>> >> >> maybe,
>> >> >> they
>> >> >> were almost eaten off! I was HAPPY to see that. So, the noise is
>> >> >> gone
>> >> >> AND
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> seems more responsive at higher RPM, is that my imagination?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Also, are the factory chains all cast nylon over aluminum? Just
>> >> >> curious.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks for all the input to!
04-20-2005, 02:01 PM
#25
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: strange rattle noise GONE
Do you think it's worth spending big bucks on an aluminum rad? Mine will
survive a while but gonna have to do something.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:426692BC.658588C1@sympatico.ca...
>I just found out that I snapped my rad in half for the 3rd time when I
> saw the crack while giving a boost yesterday!
>
> Grr, I snapped one side strap, so bolted it back together and snapped
> that again so welded a bar on the side in this shape: [
>
> Now the other side is snapped after my camping trip last weekend. Oh
> well, time for a reinforcing bar on that side too.
>
> My rad is free standing and has lasted 5 years. I need to keep it going
> for a while longer, then I am going to a 3 core rad.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>>
>> I didn't figure they were really important, I was shocked when I saw the
>> plastic sprocket. It's all good now, Jeeps happy again....gonna need a
>> rad
>> soon, but thats easy.
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:4266827C.91C4DAF5@sympatico.ca...
>> > Cool, those plastic ones are crap.
>> >
>> > Those flanges are supposed to be the guides for the chain and I guess
>> > the strange rattle they make when the chain hits them is the way to
>> > tell
>> > it's worn out.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >>
>> >> no no, thats what was IN there. I changed it to metal.
>> >>
>> >> I didn't say there was a tensioner, just wondering what the flanges
>> >> are
>> >> for.....easy Mike....bring the pulse back down, heheh
>> >>
>> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >> news:4266793E.856202F0@sympatico.ca...
>> >> > Arggg! You didn't get one of those stupid plastic gear sets did
>> >> > you?
>> >> > That is some wacky invention of DC's they started using for the YJ
>> >> > as
>> >> > 'planned obsolescence' because the real ones last forever.... The
>> >> > only
>> >> > failed 258 timing sets I have seen were the plastic ones.
>> >> >
>> >> > The real ones are steel all the way!
>> >> >
>> >> > There is no tensioner for the 258 timing chain. Oh crap, here we
>> >> > go,
>> >> > one of those so called Jeep 'mechanics' that posts here swears there
>> >> > is
>> >> > a tensioner, he is full of BS as usual.
>> >> >
>> >> > Mike
>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >> >
>> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> well, we pulled the timing chain off and it was sloppy as all hell.
>> >> >> There
>> >> >> are two flanges on the cover, looks like a tensioner goes there
>> >> >> maybe,
>> >> >> they
>> >> >> were almost eaten off! I was HAPPY to see that. So, the noise is
>> >> >> gone
>> >> >> AND
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> seems more responsive at higher RPM, is that my imagination?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Also, are the factory chains all cast nylon over aluminum? Just
>> >> >> curious.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks for all the input to!
survive a while but gonna have to do something.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:426692BC.658588C1@sympatico.ca...
>I just found out that I snapped my rad in half for the 3rd time when I
> saw the crack while giving a boost yesterday!
>
> Grr, I snapped one side strap, so bolted it back together and snapped
> that again so welded a bar on the side in this shape: [
>
> Now the other side is snapped after my camping trip last weekend. Oh
> well, time for a reinforcing bar on that side too.
>
> My rad is free standing and has lasted 5 years. I need to keep it going
> for a while longer, then I am going to a 3 core rad.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>>
>> I didn't figure they were really important, I was shocked when I saw the
>> plastic sprocket. It's all good now, Jeeps happy again....gonna need a
>> rad
>> soon, but thats easy.
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:4266827C.91C4DAF5@sympatico.ca...
>> > Cool, those plastic ones are crap.
>> >
>> > Those flanges are supposed to be the guides for the chain and I guess
>> > the strange rattle they make when the chain hits them is the way to
>> > tell
>> > it's worn out.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >>
>> >> no no, thats what was IN there. I changed it to metal.
>> >>
>> >> I didn't say there was a tensioner, just wondering what the flanges
>> >> are
>> >> for.....easy Mike....bring the pulse back down, heheh
>> >>
>> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >> news:4266793E.856202F0@sympatico.ca...
>> >> > Arggg! You didn't get one of those stupid plastic gear sets did
>> >> > you?
>> >> > That is some wacky invention of DC's they started using for the YJ
>> >> > as
>> >> > 'planned obsolescence' because the real ones last forever.... The
>> >> > only
>> >> > failed 258 timing sets I have seen were the plastic ones.
>> >> >
>> >> > The real ones are steel all the way!
>> >> >
>> >> > There is no tensioner for the 258 timing chain. Oh crap, here we
>> >> > go,
>> >> > one of those so called Jeep 'mechanics' that posts here swears there
>> >> > is
>> >> > a tensioner, he is full of BS as usual.
>> >> >
>> >> > Mike
>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >> >
>> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> well, we pulled the timing chain off and it was sloppy as all hell.
>> >> >> There
>> >> >> are two flanges on the cover, looks like a tensioner goes there
>> >> >> maybe,
>> >> >> they
>> >> >> were almost eaten off! I was HAPPY to see that. So, the noise is
>> >> >> gone
>> >> >> AND
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> seems more responsive at higher RPM, is that my imagination?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Also, are the factory chains all cast nylon over aluminum? Just
>> >> >> curious.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks for all the input to!
04-20-2005, 02:21 PM
#26
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: strange rattle noise GONE
Well...
I know I am going to have to bracket my rad with 1"x1/8" bar stock to do
a preventative frame to hold mine together like [___] so I am staying
brass with the steel side straps.
Besides that I really don't like all the corrosion issues with the
aluminum where it bolts on or touches any steel.
The brass is likely more forgiving about vibration as well, but that is
just a guess.
Mike
Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>
> Do you think it's worth spending big bucks on an aluminum rad? Mine will
> survive a while but gonna have to do something.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:426692BC.658588C1@sympatico.ca...
> >I just found out that I snapped my rad in half for the 3rd time when I
> > saw the crack while giving a boost yesterday!
> >
> > Grr, I snapped one side strap, so bolted it back together and snapped
> > that again so welded a bar on the side in this shape: [
> >
> > Now the other side is snapped after my camping trip last weekend. Oh
> > well, time for a reinforcing bar on that side too.
> >
> > My rad is free standing and has lasted 5 years. I need to keep it going
> > for a while longer, then I am going to a 3 core rad.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >>
> >> I didn't figure they were really important, I was shocked when I saw the
> >> plastic sprocket. It's all good now, Jeeps happy again....gonna need a
> >> rad
> >> soon, but thats easy.
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:4266827C.91C4DAF5@sympatico.ca...
> >> > Cool, those plastic ones are crap.
> >> >
> >> > Those flanges are supposed to be the guides for the chain and I guess
> >> > the strange rattle they make when the chain hits them is the way to
> >> > tell
> >> > it's worn out.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> no no, thats what was IN there. I changed it to metal.
> >> >>
> >> >> I didn't say there was a tensioner, just wondering what the flanges
> >> >> are
> >> >> for.....easy Mike....bring the pulse back down, heheh
> >> >>
> >> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> >> news:4266793E.856202F0@sympatico.ca...
> >> >> > Arggg! You didn't get one of those stupid plastic gear sets did
> >> >> > you?
> >> >> > That is some wacky invention of DC's they started using for the YJ
> >> >> > as
> >> >> > 'planned obsolescence' because the real ones last forever.... The
> >> >> > only
> >> >> > failed 258 timing sets I have seen were the plastic ones.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The real ones are steel all the way!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > There is no tensioner for the 258 timing chain. Oh crap, here we
> >> >> > go,
> >> >> > one of those so called Jeep 'mechanics' that posts here swears there
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > a tensioner, he is full of BS as usual.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Mike
> >> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> well, we pulled the timing chain off and it was sloppy as all hell.
> >> >> >> There
> >> >> >> are two flanges on the cover, looks like a tensioner goes there
> >> >> >> maybe,
> >> >> >> they
> >> >> >> were almost eaten off! I was HAPPY to see that. So, the noise is
> >> >> >> gone
> >> >> >> AND
> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> seems more responsive at higher RPM, is that my imagination?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Also, are the factory chains all cast nylon over aluminum? Just
> >> >> >> curious.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks for all the input to!
I know I am going to have to bracket my rad with 1"x1/8" bar stock to do
a preventative frame to hold mine together like [___] so I am staying
brass with the steel side straps.
Besides that I really don't like all the corrosion issues with the
aluminum where it bolts on or touches any steel.
The brass is likely more forgiving about vibration as well, but that is
just a guess.
Mike
Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>
> Do you think it's worth spending big bucks on an aluminum rad? Mine will
> survive a while but gonna have to do something.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:426692BC.658588C1@sympatico.ca...
> >I just found out that I snapped my rad in half for the 3rd time when I
> > saw the crack while giving a boost yesterday!
> >
> > Grr, I snapped one side strap, so bolted it back together and snapped
> > that again so welded a bar on the side in this shape: [
> >
> > Now the other side is snapped after my camping trip last weekend. Oh
> > well, time for a reinforcing bar on that side too.
> >
> > My rad is free standing and has lasted 5 years. I need to keep it going
> > for a while longer, then I am going to a 3 core rad.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >>
> >> I didn't figure they were really important, I was shocked when I saw the
> >> plastic sprocket. It's all good now, Jeeps happy again....gonna need a
> >> rad
> >> soon, but thats easy.
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:4266827C.91C4DAF5@sympatico.ca...
> >> > Cool, those plastic ones are crap.
> >> >
> >> > Those flanges are supposed to be the guides for the chain and I guess
> >> > the strange rattle they make when the chain hits them is the way to
> >> > tell
> >> > it's worn out.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> no no, thats what was IN there. I changed it to metal.
> >> >>
> >> >> I didn't say there was a tensioner, just wondering what the flanges
> >> >> are
> >> >> for.....easy Mike....bring the pulse back down, heheh
> >> >>
> >> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> >> news:4266793E.856202F0@sympatico.ca...
> >> >> > Arggg! You didn't get one of those stupid plastic gear sets did
> >> >> > you?
> >> >> > That is some wacky invention of DC's they started using for the YJ
> >> >> > as
> >> >> > 'planned obsolescence' because the real ones last forever.... The
> >> >> > only
> >> >> > failed 258 timing sets I have seen were the plastic ones.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The real ones are steel all the way!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > There is no tensioner for the 258 timing chain. Oh crap, here we
> >> >> > go,
> >> >> > one of those so called Jeep 'mechanics' that posts here swears there
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > a tensioner, he is full of BS as usual.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Mike
> >> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> well, we pulled the timing chain off and it was sloppy as all hell.
> >> >> >> There
> >> >> >> are two flanges on the cover, looks like a tensioner goes there
> >> >> >> maybe,
> >> >> >> they
> >> >> >> were almost eaten off! I was HAPPY to see that. So, the noise is
> >> >> >> gone
> >> >> >> AND
> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> seems more responsive at higher RPM, is that my imagination?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Also, are the factory chains all cast nylon over aluminum? Just
> >> >> >> curious.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks for all the input to!
04-20-2005, 02:21 PM
#27
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: strange rattle noise GONE
Well...
I know I am going to have to bracket my rad with 1"x1/8" bar stock to do
a preventative frame to hold mine together like [___] so I am staying
brass with the steel side straps.
Besides that I really don't like all the corrosion issues with the
aluminum where it bolts on or touches any steel.
The brass is likely more forgiving about vibration as well, but that is
just a guess.
Mike
Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>
> Do you think it's worth spending big bucks on an aluminum rad? Mine will
> survive a while but gonna have to do something.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:426692BC.658588C1@sympatico.ca...
> >I just found out that I snapped my rad in half for the 3rd time when I
> > saw the crack while giving a boost yesterday!
> >
> > Grr, I snapped one side strap, so bolted it back together and snapped
> > that again so welded a bar on the side in this shape: [
> >
> > Now the other side is snapped after my camping trip last weekend. Oh
> > well, time for a reinforcing bar on that side too.
> >
> > My rad is free standing and has lasted 5 years. I need to keep it going
> > for a while longer, then I am going to a 3 core rad.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >>
> >> I didn't figure they were really important, I was shocked when I saw the
> >> plastic sprocket. It's all good now, Jeeps happy again....gonna need a
> >> rad
> >> soon, but thats easy.
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:4266827C.91C4DAF5@sympatico.ca...
> >> > Cool, those plastic ones are crap.
> >> >
> >> > Those flanges are supposed to be the guides for the chain and I guess
> >> > the strange rattle they make when the chain hits them is the way to
> >> > tell
> >> > it's worn out.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> no no, thats what was IN there. I changed it to metal.
> >> >>
> >> >> I didn't say there was a tensioner, just wondering what the flanges
> >> >> are
> >> >> for.....easy Mike....bring the pulse back down, heheh
> >> >>
> >> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> >> news:4266793E.856202F0@sympatico.ca...
> >> >> > Arggg! You didn't get one of those stupid plastic gear sets did
> >> >> > you?
> >> >> > That is some wacky invention of DC's they started using for the YJ
> >> >> > as
> >> >> > 'planned obsolescence' because the real ones last forever.... The
> >> >> > only
> >> >> > failed 258 timing sets I have seen were the plastic ones.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The real ones are steel all the way!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > There is no tensioner for the 258 timing chain. Oh crap, here we
> >> >> > go,
> >> >> > one of those so called Jeep 'mechanics' that posts here swears there
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > a tensioner, he is full of BS as usual.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Mike
> >> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> well, we pulled the timing chain off and it was sloppy as all hell.
> >> >> >> There
> >> >> >> are two flanges on the cover, looks like a tensioner goes there
> >> >> >> maybe,
> >> >> >> they
> >> >> >> were almost eaten off! I was HAPPY to see that. So, the noise is
> >> >> >> gone
> >> >> >> AND
> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> seems more responsive at higher RPM, is that my imagination?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Also, are the factory chains all cast nylon over aluminum? Just
> >> >> >> curious.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks for all the input to!
I know I am going to have to bracket my rad with 1"x1/8" bar stock to do
a preventative frame to hold mine together like [___] so I am staying
brass with the steel side straps.
Besides that I really don't like all the corrosion issues with the
aluminum where it bolts on or touches any steel.
The brass is likely more forgiving about vibration as well, but that is
just a guess.
Mike
Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>
> Do you think it's worth spending big bucks on an aluminum rad? Mine will
> survive a while but gonna have to do something.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:426692BC.658588C1@sympatico.ca...
> >I just found out that I snapped my rad in half for the 3rd time when I
> > saw the crack while giving a boost yesterday!
> >
> > Grr, I snapped one side strap, so bolted it back together and snapped
> > that again so welded a bar on the side in this shape: [
> >
> > Now the other side is snapped after my camping trip last weekend. Oh
> > well, time for a reinforcing bar on that side too.
> >
> > My rad is free standing and has lasted 5 years. I need to keep it going
> > for a while longer, then I am going to a 3 core rad.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >>
> >> I didn't figure they were really important, I was shocked when I saw the
> >> plastic sprocket. It's all good now, Jeeps happy again....gonna need a
> >> rad
> >> soon, but thats easy.
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:4266827C.91C4DAF5@sympatico.ca...
> >> > Cool, those plastic ones are crap.
> >> >
> >> > Those flanges are supposed to be the guides for the chain and I guess
> >> > the strange rattle they make when the chain hits them is the way to
> >> > tell
> >> > it's worn out.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> no no, thats what was IN there. I changed it to metal.
> >> >>
> >> >> I didn't say there was a tensioner, just wondering what the flanges
> >> >> are
> >> >> for.....easy Mike....bring the pulse back down, heheh
> >> >>
> >> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> >> news:4266793E.856202F0@sympatico.ca...
> >> >> > Arggg! You didn't get one of those stupid plastic gear sets did
> >> >> > you?
> >> >> > That is some wacky invention of DC's they started using for the YJ
> >> >> > as
> >> >> > 'planned obsolescence' because the real ones last forever.... The
> >> >> > only
> >> >> > failed 258 timing sets I have seen were the plastic ones.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The real ones are steel all the way!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > There is no tensioner for the 258 timing chain. Oh crap, here we
> >> >> > go,
> >> >> > one of those so called Jeep 'mechanics' that posts here swears there
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > a tensioner, he is full of BS as usual.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Mike
> >> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> well, we pulled the timing chain off and it was sloppy as all hell.
> >> >> >> There
> >> >> >> are two flanges on the cover, looks like a tensioner goes there
> >> >> >> maybe,
> >> >> >> they
> >> >> >> were almost eaten off! I was HAPPY to see that. So, the noise is
> >> >> >> gone
> >> >> >> AND
> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> seems more responsive at higher RPM, is that my imagination?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Also, are the factory chains all cast nylon over aluminum? Just
> >> >> >> curious.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks for all the input to!
04-20-2005, 02:21 PM
#28
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: strange rattle noise GONE
Well...
I know I am going to have to bracket my rad with 1"x1/8" bar stock to do
a preventative frame to hold mine together like [___] so I am staying
brass with the steel side straps.
Besides that I really don't like all the corrosion issues with the
aluminum where it bolts on or touches any steel.
The brass is likely more forgiving about vibration as well, but that is
just a guess.
Mike
Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>
> Do you think it's worth spending big bucks on an aluminum rad? Mine will
> survive a while but gonna have to do something.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:426692BC.658588C1@sympatico.ca...
> >I just found out that I snapped my rad in half for the 3rd time when I
> > saw the crack while giving a boost yesterday!
> >
> > Grr, I snapped one side strap, so bolted it back together and snapped
> > that again so welded a bar on the side in this shape: [
> >
> > Now the other side is snapped after my camping trip last weekend. Oh
> > well, time for a reinforcing bar on that side too.
> >
> > My rad is free standing and has lasted 5 years. I need to keep it going
> > for a while longer, then I am going to a 3 core rad.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >>
> >> I didn't figure they were really important, I was shocked when I saw the
> >> plastic sprocket. It's all good now, Jeeps happy again....gonna need a
> >> rad
> >> soon, but thats easy.
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:4266827C.91C4DAF5@sympatico.ca...
> >> > Cool, those plastic ones are crap.
> >> >
> >> > Those flanges are supposed to be the guides for the chain and I guess
> >> > the strange rattle they make when the chain hits them is the way to
> >> > tell
> >> > it's worn out.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> no no, thats what was IN there. I changed it to metal.
> >> >>
> >> >> I didn't say there was a tensioner, just wondering what the flanges
> >> >> are
> >> >> for.....easy Mike....bring the pulse back down, heheh
> >> >>
> >> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> >> news:4266793E.856202F0@sympatico.ca...
> >> >> > Arggg! You didn't get one of those stupid plastic gear sets did
> >> >> > you?
> >> >> > That is some wacky invention of DC's they started using for the YJ
> >> >> > as
> >> >> > 'planned obsolescence' because the real ones last forever.... The
> >> >> > only
> >> >> > failed 258 timing sets I have seen were the plastic ones.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The real ones are steel all the way!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > There is no tensioner for the 258 timing chain. Oh crap, here we
> >> >> > go,
> >> >> > one of those so called Jeep 'mechanics' that posts here swears there
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > a tensioner, he is full of BS as usual.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Mike
> >> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> well, we pulled the timing chain off and it was sloppy as all hell.
> >> >> >> There
> >> >> >> are two flanges on the cover, looks like a tensioner goes there
> >> >> >> maybe,
> >> >> >> they
> >> >> >> were almost eaten off! I was HAPPY to see that. So, the noise is
> >> >> >> gone
> >> >> >> AND
> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> seems more responsive at higher RPM, is that my imagination?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Also, are the factory chains all cast nylon over aluminum? Just
> >> >> >> curious.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks for all the input to!
I know I am going to have to bracket my rad with 1"x1/8" bar stock to do
a preventative frame to hold mine together like [___] so I am staying
brass with the steel side straps.
Besides that I really don't like all the corrosion issues with the
aluminum where it bolts on or touches any steel.
The brass is likely more forgiving about vibration as well, but that is
just a guess.
Mike
Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>
> Do you think it's worth spending big bucks on an aluminum rad? Mine will
> survive a while but gonna have to do something.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:426692BC.658588C1@sympatico.ca...
> >I just found out that I snapped my rad in half for the 3rd time when I
> > saw the crack while giving a boost yesterday!
> >
> > Grr, I snapped one side strap, so bolted it back together and snapped
> > that again so welded a bar on the side in this shape: [
> >
> > Now the other side is snapped after my camping trip last weekend. Oh
> > well, time for a reinforcing bar on that side too.
> >
> > My rad is free standing and has lasted 5 years. I need to keep it going
> > for a while longer, then I am going to a 3 core rad.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >>
> >> I didn't figure they were really important, I was shocked when I saw the
> >> plastic sprocket. It's all good now, Jeeps happy again....gonna need a
> >> rad
> >> soon, but thats easy.
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:4266827C.91C4DAF5@sympatico.ca...
> >> > Cool, those plastic ones are crap.
> >> >
> >> > Those flanges are supposed to be the guides for the chain and I guess
> >> > the strange rattle they make when the chain hits them is the way to
> >> > tell
> >> > it's worn out.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> no no, thats what was IN there. I changed it to metal.
> >> >>
> >> >> I didn't say there was a tensioner, just wondering what the flanges
> >> >> are
> >> >> for.....easy Mike....bring the pulse back down, heheh
> >> >>
> >> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> >> news:4266793E.856202F0@sympatico.ca...
> >> >> > Arggg! You didn't get one of those stupid plastic gear sets did
> >> >> > you?
> >> >> > That is some wacky invention of DC's they started using for the YJ
> >> >> > as
> >> >> > 'planned obsolescence' because the real ones last forever.... The
> >> >> > only
> >> >> > failed 258 timing sets I have seen were the plastic ones.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The real ones are steel all the way!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > There is no tensioner for the 258 timing chain. Oh crap, here we
> >> >> > go,
> >> >> > one of those so called Jeep 'mechanics' that posts here swears there
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > a tensioner, he is full of BS as usual.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Mike
> >> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> well, we pulled the timing chain off and it was sloppy as all hell.
> >> >> >> There
> >> >> >> are two flanges on the cover, looks like a tensioner goes there
> >> >> >> maybe,
> >> >> >> they
> >> >> >> were almost eaten off! I was HAPPY to see that. So, the noise is
> >> >> >> gone
> >> >> >> AND
> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> seems more responsive at higher RPM, is that my imagination?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Also, are the factory chains all cast nylon over aluminum? Just
> >> >> >> curious.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks for all the input to!
04-20-2005, 02:21 PM
#29
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: strange rattle noise GONE
Well...
I know I am going to have to bracket my rad with 1"x1/8" bar stock to do
a preventative frame to hold mine together like [___] so I am staying
brass with the steel side straps.
Besides that I really don't like all the corrosion issues with the
aluminum where it bolts on or touches any steel.
The brass is likely more forgiving about vibration as well, but that is
just a guess.
Mike
Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>
> Do you think it's worth spending big bucks on an aluminum rad? Mine will
> survive a while but gonna have to do something.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:426692BC.658588C1@sympatico.ca...
> >I just found out that I snapped my rad in half for the 3rd time when I
> > saw the crack while giving a boost yesterday!
> >
> > Grr, I snapped one side strap, so bolted it back together and snapped
> > that again so welded a bar on the side in this shape: [
> >
> > Now the other side is snapped after my camping trip last weekend. Oh
> > well, time for a reinforcing bar on that side too.
> >
> > My rad is free standing and has lasted 5 years. I need to keep it going
> > for a while longer, then I am going to a 3 core rad.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >>
> >> I didn't figure they were really important, I was shocked when I saw the
> >> plastic sprocket. It's all good now, Jeeps happy again....gonna need a
> >> rad
> >> soon, but thats easy.
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:4266827C.91C4DAF5@sympatico.ca...
> >> > Cool, those plastic ones are crap.
> >> >
> >> > Those flanges are supposed to be the guides for the chain and I guess
> >> > the strange rattle they make when the chain hits them is the way to
> >> > tell
> >> > it's worn out.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> no no, thats what was IN there. I changed it to metal.
> >> >>
> >> >> I didn't say there was a tensioner, just wondering what the flanges
> >> >> are
> >> >> for.....easy Mike....bring the pulse back down, heheh
> >> >>
> >> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> >> news:4266793E.856202F0@sympatico.ca...
> >> >> > Arggg! You didn't get one of those stupid plastic gear sets did
> >> >> > you?
> >> >> > That is some wacky invention of DC's they started using for the YJ
> >> >> > as
> >> >> > 'planned obsolescence' because the real ones last forever.... The
> >> >> > only
> >> >> > failed 258 timing sets I have seen were the plastic ones.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The real ones are steel all the way!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > There is no tensioner for the 258 timing chain. Oh crap, here we
> >> >> > go,
> >> >> > one of those so called Jeep 'mechanics' that posts here swears there
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > a tensioner, he is full of BS as usual.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Mike
> >> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> well, we pulled the timing chain off and it was sloppy as all hell.
> >> >> >> There
> >> >> >> are two flanges on the cover, looks like a tensioner goes there
> >> >> >> maybe,
> >> >> >> they
> >> >> >> were almost eaten off! I was HAPPY to see that. So, the noise is
> >> >> >> gone
> >> >> >> AND
> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> seems more responsive at higher RPM, is that my imagination?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Also, are the factory chains all cast nylon over aluminum? Just
> >> >> >> curious.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks for all the input to!
I know I am going to have to bracket my rad with 1"x1/8" bar stock to do
a preventative frame to hold mine together like [___] so I am staying
brass with the steel side straps.
Besides that I really don't like all the corrosion issues with the
aluminum where it bolts on or touches any steel.
The brass is likely more forgiving about vibration as well, but that is
just a guess.
Mike
Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>
> Do you think it's worth spending big bucks on an aluminum rad? Mine will
> survive a while but gonna have to do something.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:426692BC.658588C1@sympatico.ca...
> >I just found out that I snapped my rad in half for the 3rd time when I
> > saw the crack while giving a boost yesterday!
> >
> > Grr, I snapped one side strap, so bolted it back together and snapped
> > that again so welded a bar on the side in this shape: [
> >
> > Now the other side is snapped after my camping trip last weekend. Oh
> > well, time for a reinforcing bar on that side too.
> >
> > My rad is free standing and has lasted 5 years. I need to keep it going
> > for a while longer, then I am going to a 3 core rad.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >>
> >> I didn't figure they were really important, I was shocked when I saw the
> >> plastic sprocket. It's all good now, Jeeps happy again....gonna need a
> >> rad
> >> soon, but thats easy.
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:4266827C.91C4DAF5@sympatico.ca...
> >> > Cool, those plastic ones are crap.
> >> >
> >> > Those flanges are supposed to be the guides for the chain and I guess
> >> > the strange rattle they make when the chain hits them is the way to
> >> > tell
> >> > it's worn out.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> no no, thats what was IN there. I changed it to metal.
> >> >>
> >> >> I didn't say there was a tensioner, just wondering what the flanges
> >> >> are
> >> >> for.....easy Mike....bring the pulse back down, heheh
> >> >>
> >> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> >> news:4266793E.856202F0@sympatico.ca...
> >> >> > Arggg! You didn't get one of those stupid plastic gear sets did
> >> >> > you?
> >> >> > That is some wacky invention of DC's they started using for the YJ
> >> >> > as
> >> >> > 'planned obsolescence' because the real ones last forever.... The
> >> >> > only
> >> >> > failed 258 timing sets I have seen were the plastic ones.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The real ones are steel all the way!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > There is no tensioner for the 258 timing chain. Oh crap, here we
> >> >> > go,
> >> >> > one of those so called Jeep 'mechanics' that posts here swears there
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > a tensioner, he is full of BS as usual.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Mike
> >> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> well, we pulled the timing chain off and it was sloppy as all hell.
> >> >> >> There
> >> >> >> are two flanges on the cover, looks like a tensioner goes there
> >> >> >> maybe,
> >> >> >> they
> >> >> >> were almost eaten off! I was HAPPY to see that. So, the noise is
> >> >> >> gone
> >> >> >> AND
> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> seems more responsive at higher RPM, is that my imagination?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Also, are the factory chains all cast nylon over aluminum? Just
> >> >> >> curious.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks for all the input to!
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