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Pi-Eyed Piper 04-20-2005 11:16 AM

strange rattle noise GONE
 
well, we pulled the timing chain off and it was sloppy as all hell. There
are two flanges on the cover, looks like a tensioner goes there maybe, they
were almost eaten off! I was HAPPY to see that. So, the noise is gone AND it
seems more responsive at higher RPM, is that my imagination?

Also, are the factory chains all cast nylon over aluminum? Just curious.

Thanks for all the input to!



Mike Romain 04-20-2005 11:46 AM

Re: strange rattle noise GONE
 
Arggg! You didn't get one of those stupid plastic gear sets did you?
That is some wacky invention of DC's they started using for the YJ as
'planned obsolescence' because the real ones last forever.... The only
failed 258 timing sets I have seen were the plastic ones.

The real ones are steel all the way!

There is no tensioner for the 258 timing chain. Oh crap, here we go,
one of those so called Jeep 'mechanics' that posts here swears there is
a tensioner, he is full of BS as usual.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>
> well, we pulled the timing chain off and it was sloppy as all hell. There
> are two flanges on the cover, looks like a tensioner goes there maybe, they
> were almost eaten off! I was HAPPY to see that. So, the noise is gone AND it
> seems more responsive at higher RPM, is that my imagination?
>
> Also, are the factory chains all cast nylon over aluminum? Just curious.
>
> Thanks for all the input to!


Mike Romain 04-20-2005 11:46 AM

Re: strange rattle noise GONE
 
Arggg! You didn't get one of those stupid plastic gear sets did you?
That is some wacky invention of DC's they started using for the YJ as
'planned obsolescence' because the real ones last forever.... The only
failed 258 timing sets I have seen were the plastic ones.

The real ones are steel all the way!

There is no tensioner for the 258 timing chain. Oh crap, here we go,
one of those so called Jeep 'mechanics' that posts here swears there is
a tensioner, he is full of BS as usual.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>
> well, we pulled the timing chain off and it was sloppy as all hell. There
> are two flanges on the cover, looks like a tensioner goes there maybe, they
> were almost eaten off! I was HAPPY to see that. So, the noise is gone AND it
> seems more responsive at higher RPM, is that my imagination?
>
> Also, are the factory chains all cast nylon over aluminum? Just curious.
>
> Thanks for all the input to!


Mike Romain 04-20-2005 11:46 AM

Re: strange rattle noise GONE
 
Arggg! You didn't get one of those stupid plastic gear sets did you?
That is some wacky invention of DC's they started using for the YJ as
'planned obsolescence' because the real ones last forever.... The only
failed 258 timing sets I have seen were the plastic ones.

The real ones are steel all the way!

There is no tensioner for the 258 timing chain. Oh crap, here we go,
one of those so called Jeep 'mechanics' that posts here swears there is
a tensioner, he is full of BS as usual.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>
> well, we pulled the timing chain off and it was sloppy as all hell. There
> are two flanges on the cover, looks like a tensioner goes there maybe, they
> were almost eaten off! I was HAPPY to see that. So, the noise is gone AND it
> seems more responsive at higher RPM, is that my imagination?
>
> Also, are the factory chains all cast nylon over aluminum? Just curious.
>
> Thanks for all the input to!


Mike Romain 04-20-2005 11:46 AM

Re: strange rattle noise GONE
 
Arggg! You didn't get one of those stupid plastic gear sets did you?
That is some wacky invention of DC's they started using for the YJ as
'planned obsolescence' because the real ones last forever.... The only
failed 258 timing sets I have seen were the plastic ones.

The real ones are steel all the way!

There is no tensioner for the 258 timing chain. Oh crap, here we go,
one of those so called Jeep 'mechanics' that posts here swears there is
a tensioner, he is full of BS as usual.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>
> well, we pulled the timing chain off and it was sloppy as all hell. There
> are two flanges on the cover, looks like a tensioner goes there maybe, they
> were almost eaten off! I was HAPPY to see that. So, the noise is gone AND it
> seems more responsive at higher RPM, is that my imagination?
>
> Also, are the factory chains all cast nylon over aluminum? Just curious.
>
> Thanks for all the input to!


Pi-Eyed Piper 04-20-2005 12:18 PM

Re: strange rattle noise GONE
 
no no, thats what was IN there. I changed it to metal.

I didn't say there was a tensioner, just wondering what the flanges are
for.....easy Mike....bring the pulse back down, heheh


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4266793E.856202F0@sympatico.ca...
> Arggg! You didn't get one of those stupid plastic gear sets did you?
> That is some wacky invention of DC's they started using for the YJ as
> 'planned obsolescence' because the real ones last forever.... The only
> failed 258 timing sets I have seen were the plastic ones.
>
> The real ones are steel all the way!
>
> There is no tensioner for the 258 timing chain. Oh crap, here we go,
> one of those so called Jeep 'mechanics' that posts here swears there is
> a tensioner, he is full of BS as usual.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>>
>> well, we pulled the timing chain off and it was sloppy as all hell. There
>> are two flanges on the cover, looks like a tensioner goes there maybe,
>> they
>> were almost eaten off! I was HAPPY to see that. So, the noise is gone AND
>> it
>> seems more responsive at higher RPM, is that my imagination?
>>
>> Also, are the factory chains all cast nylon over aluminum? Just curious.
>>
>> Thanks for all the input to!




Pi-Eyed Piper 04-20-2005 12:18 PM

Re: strange rattle noise GONE
 
no no, thats what was IN there. I changed it to metal.

I didn't say there was a tensioner, just wondering what the flanges are
for.....easy Mike....bring the pulse back down, heheh


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4266793E.856202F0@sympatico.ca...
> Arggg! You didn't get one of those stupid plastic gear sets did you?
> That is some wacky invention of DC's they started using for the YJ as
> 'planned obsolescence' because the real ones last forever.... The only
> failed 258 timing sets I have seen were the plastic ones.
>
> The real ones are steel all the way!
>
> There is no tensioner for the 258 timing chain. Oh crap, here we go,
> one of those so called Jeep 'mechanics' that posts here swears there is
> a tensioner, he is full of BS as usual.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>>
>> well, we pulled the timing chain off and it was sloppy as all hell. There
>> are two flanges on the cover, looks like a tensioner goes there maybe,
>> they
>> were almost eaten off! I was HAPPY to see that. So, the noise is gone AND
>> it
>> seems more responsive at higher RPM, is that my imagination?
>>
>> Also, are the factory chains all cast nylon over aluminum? Just curious.
>>
>> Thanks for all the input to!




Pi-Eyed Piper 04-20-2005 12:18 PM

Re: strange rattle noise GONE
 
no no, thats what was IN there. I changed it to metal.

I didn't say there was a tensioner, just wondering what the flanges are
for.....easy Mike....bring the pulse back down, heheh


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4266793E.856202F0@sympatico.ca...
> Arggg! You didn't get one of those stupid plastic gear sets did you?
> That is some wacky invention of DC's they started using for the YJ as
> 'planned obsolescence' because the real ones last forever.... The only
> failed 258 timing sets I have seen were the plastic ones.
>
> The real ones are steel all the way!
>
> There is no tensioner for the 258 timing chain. Oh crap, here we go,
> one of those so called Jeep 'mechanics' that posts here swears there is
> a tensioner, he is full of BS as usual.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>>
>> well, we pulled the timing chain off and it was sloppy as all hell. There
>> are two flanges on the cover, looks like a tensioner goes there maybe,
>> they
>> were almost eaten off! I was HAPPY to see that. So, the noise is gone AND
>> it
>> seems more responsive at higher RPM, is that my imagination?
>>
>> Also, are the factory chains all cast nylon over aluminum? Just curious.
>>
>> Thanks for all the input to!




Pi-Eyed Piper 04-20-2005 12:18 PM

Re: strange rattle noise GONE
 
no no, thats what was IN there. I changed it to metal.

I didn't say there was a tensioner, just wondering what the flanges are
for.....easy Mike....bring the pulse back down, heheh


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4266793E.856202F0@sympatico.ca...
> Arggg! You didn't get one of those stupid plastic gear sets did you?
> That is some wacky invention of DC's they started using for the YJ as
> 'planned obsolescence' because the real ones last forever.... The only
> failed 258 timing sets I have seen were the plastic ones.
>
> The real ones are steel all the way!
>
> There is no tensioner for the 258 timing chain. Oh crap, here we go,
> one of those so called Jeep 'mechanics' that posts here swears there is
> a tensioner, he is full of BS as usual.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>>
>> well, we pulled the timing chain off and it was sloppy as all hell. There
>> are two flanges on the cover, looks like a tensioner goes there maybe,
>> they
>> were almost eaten off! I was HAPPY to see that. So, the noise is gone AND
>> it
>> seems more responsive at higher RPM, is that my imagination?
>>
>> Also, are the factory chains all cast nylon over aluminum? Just curious.
>>
>> Thanks for all the input to!




Mike Romain 04-20-2005 12:25 PM

Re: strange rattle noise GONE
 
Cool, those plastic ones are crap.

Those flanges are supposed to be the guides for the chain and I guess
the strange rattle they make when the chain hits them is the way to tell
it's worn out.

Mike

Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
>
> no no, thats what was IN there. I changed it to metal.
>
> I didn't say there was a tensioner, just wondering what the flanges are
> for.....easy Mike....bring the pulse back down, heheh
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4266793E.856202F0@sympatico.ca...
> > Arggg! You didn't get one of those stupid plastic gear sets did you?
> > That is some wacky invention of DC's they started using for the YJ as
> > 'planned obsolescence' because the real ones last forever.... The only
> > failed 258 timing sets I have seen were the plastic ones.
> >
> > The real ones are steel all the way!
> >
> > There is no tensioner for the 258 timing chain. Oh crap, here we go,
> > one of those so called Jeep 'mechanics' that posts here swears there is
> > a tensioner, he is full of BS as usual.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> >>
> >> well, we pulled the timing chain off and it was sloppy as all hell. There
> >> are two flanges on the cover, looks like a tensioner goes there maybe,
> >> they
> >> were almost eaten off! I was HAPPY to see that. So, the noise is gone AND
> >> it
> >> seems more responsive at higher RPM, is that my imagination?
> >>
> >> Also, are the factory chains all cast nylon over aluminum? Just curious.
> >>
> >> Thanks for all the input to!



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