Still having high idle problem on 88 Jeep Comanche (4.0l)
#21
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Re: Still having high idle problem on 88 Jeep Comanche (4.0l)
I'm thinking it may not be too easy to haul the throttle body off, but I'd
imagine that would make it much easier to clean properly?
Clint
"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
news:m5idncsNF6SeepTbnZ2dnUVZ_vShnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Agreed. The IAC too. (Idle Air Controller). This can get jammed with
> tiny
> amounts of deposits. I would probably use carburetor cleaner.
>
> Earle
>
> "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:R-6dnXAjo_RZfJTbnZ2dnUVZ_segnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Scrub till you'd eat from it.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> "Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:S5lOh.82165$DN.39493@pd7urf2no...
>> > Well, I got in there with a brush and solvent, and took off some stuff
> on
>> > the sides (beside the butterfly valve, for lack of the technical
> phrases).
>> > But it's opening and closing easily, and it's stopping when it hits the
>> > metal stop on the outside of the throttle. But is it perfectly clean?
>> > No. Should I scrub some more?
>> >
>> > Clint
>> >
>> > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>> > news:zfOdnQqMyL_oSpTbnZ2dnUVZ_o-knZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >> Have you cleaned the throttle body? It's real easy and will eliminate
>> >> that
>> >> as a source of the problem. Oil in the CCV system doesn't help
>> >> either,
>> >> and
>> >> cleaning the orifices is in principle also easy.
>> >>
>> >> Earle
>> >>
>> >> "Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> >> news:3IjOh.81737$DN.58716@pd7urf2no...
>> >>> So I'm getting good vacuum using the very imprecise "finger over the
>> >>> hose
>> >>> end" at the CCV hose, and the TPS sensor goes from about 1 to 5
>> >>> volts.
>> >>> Is
>> >>> there some other things I should check?
>> >>>
>> >>> Today it behaved differently than usual, hitting close to 3000 rpm
> while
>> >>> "idling". Usually it starts at about 800rpm when I start it up, and
>> >>> stays
>> >>> constant at about 1500.
>> >>>
>> >>> Could having a bad CCV valve be causing my problem? I'm getting some
>> >>> oil
>> >> in
>> >>> my air filter as well, and as per these websites, it seems that may
>> >>> be
>> >> that
>> >>> cause of the oil:
>> >>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257836
>> >>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985
>> >>>
>> >>> I did try sealing around the grommets with some RTV silicone, but it
>> >> didn't
>> >>> seem to make a difference.
>> >>>
>> >>> I guess I KNOW that I need to fix the CCV hoses/valves, but can this
> be
>> >>> causing my problem with the high idle? If nothing else, I'm figuring
>> >>> that
>> >>> oil in the air filter probably isn't helping keep the throttle body
>> >>> really
>> >>> clean, since the oil can get into the air system from there.
>> >>>
>> >>> Clint
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
imagine that would make it much easier to clean properly?
Clint
"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
news:m5idncsNF6SeepTbnZ2dnUVZ_vShnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Agreed. The IAC too. (Idle Air Controller). This can get jammed with
> tiny
> amounts of deposits. I would probably use carburetor cleaner.
>
> Earle
>
> "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:R-6dnXAjo_RZfJTbnZ2dnUVZ_segnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Scrub till you'd eat from it.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> "Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:S5lOh.82165$DN.39493@pd7urf2no...
>> > Well, I got in there with a brush and solvent, and took off some stuff
> on
>> > the sides (beside the butterfly valve, for lack of the technical
> phrases).
>> > But it's opening and closing easily, and it's stopping when it hits the
>> > metal stop on the outside of the throttle. But is it perfectly clean?
>> > No. Should I scrub some more?
>> >
>> > Clint
>> >
>> > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>> > news:zfOdnQqMyL_oSpTbnZ2dnUVZ_o-knZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >> Have you cleaned the throttle body? It's real easy and will eliminate
>> >> that
>> >> as a source of the problem. Oil in the CCV system doesn't help
>> >> either,
>> >> and
>> >> cleaning the orifices is in principle also easy.
>> >>
>> >> Earle
>> >>
>> >> "Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> >> news:3IjOh.81737$DN.58716@pd7urf2no...
>> >>> So I'm getting good vacuum using the very imprecise "finger over the
>> >>> hose
>> >>> end" at the CCV hose, and the TPS sensor goes from about 1 to 5
>> >>> volts.
>> >>> Is
>> >>> there some other things I should check?
>> >>>
>> >>> Today it behaved differently than usual, hitting close to 3000 rpm
> while
>> >>> "idling". Usually it starts at about 800rpm when I start it up, and
>> >>> stays
>> >>> constant at about 1500.
>> >>>
>> >>> Could having a bad CCV valve be causing my problem? I'm getting some
>> >>> oil
>> >> in
>> >>> my air filter as well, and as per these websites, it seems that may
>> >>> be
>> >> that
>> >>> cause of the oil:
>> >>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257836
>> >>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985
>> >>>
>> >>> I did try sealing around the grommets with some RTV silicone, but it
>> >> didn't
>> >>> seem to make a difference.
>> >>>
>> >>> I guess I KNOW that I need to fix the CCV hoses/valves, but can this
> be
>> >>> causing my problem with the high idle? If nothing else, I'm figuring
>> >>> that
>> >>> oil in the air filter probably isn't helping keep the throttle body
>> >>> really
>> >>> clean, since the oil can get into the air system from there.
>> >>>
>> >>> Clint
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
#22
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Re: Still having high idle problem on 88 Jeep Comanche (4.0l)
I'm thinking it may not be too easy to haul the throttle body off, but I'd
imagine that would make it much easier to clean properly?
Clint
"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
news:m5idncsNF6SeepTbnZ2dnUVZ_vShnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Agreed. The IAC too. (Idle Air Controller). This can get jammed with
> tiny
> amounts of deposits. I would probably use carburetor cleaner.
>
> Earle
>
> "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:R-6dnXAjo_RZfJTbnZ2dnUVZ_segnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Scrub till you'd eat from it.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> "Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:S5lOh.82165$DN.39493@pd7urf2no...
>> > Well, I got in there with a brush and solvent, and took off some stuff
> on
>> > the sides (beside the butterfly valve, for lack of the technical
> phrases).
>> > But it's opening and closing easily, and it's stopping when it hits the
>> > metal stop on the outside of the throttle. But is it perfectly clean?
>> > No. Should I scrub some more?
>> >
>> > Clint
>> >
>> > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>> > news:zfOdnQqMyL_oSpTbnZ2dnUVZ_o-knZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >> Have you cleaned the throttle body? It's real easy and will eliminate
>> >> that
>> >> as a source of the problem. Oil in the CCV system doesn't help
>> >> either,
>> >> and
>> >> cleaning the orifices is in principle also easy.
>> >>
>> >> Earle
>> >>
>> >> "Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> >> news:3IjOh.81737$DN.58716@pd7urf2no...
>> >>> So I'm getting good vacuum using the very imprecise "finger over the
>> >>> hose
>> >>> end" at the CCV hose, and the TPS sensor goes from about 1 to 5
>> >>> volts.
>> >>> Is
>> >>> there some other things I should check?
>> >>>
>> >>> Today it behaved differently than usual, hitting close to 3000 rpm
> while
>> >>> "idling". Usually it starts at about 800rpm when I start it up, and
>> >>> stays
>> >>> constant at about 1500.
>> >>>
>> >>> Could having a bad CCV valve be causing my problem? I'm getting some
>> >>> oil
>> >> in
>> >>> my air filter as well, and as per these websites, it seems that may
>> >>> be
>> >> that
>> >>> cause of the oil:
>> >>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257836
>> >>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985
>> >>>
>> >>> I did try sealing around the grommets with some RTV silicone, but it
>> >> didn't
>> >>> seem to make a difference.
>> >>>
>> >>> I guess I KNOW that I need to fix the CCV hoses/valves, but can this
> be
>> >>> causing my problem with the high idle? If nothing else, I'm figuring
>> >>> that
>> >>> oil in the air filter probably isn't helping keep the throttle body
>> >>> really
>> >>> clean, since the oil can get into the air system from there.
>> >>>
>> >>> Clint
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
imagine that would make it much easier to clean properly?
Clint
"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
news:m5idncsNF6SeepTbnZ2dnUVZ_vShnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Agreed. The IAC too. (Idle Air Controller). This can get jammed with
> tiny
> amounts of deposits. I would probably use carburetor cleaner.
>
> Earle
>
> "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:R-6dnXAjo_RZfJTbnZ2dnUVZ_segnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Scrub till you'd eat from it.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> "Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:S5lOh.82165$DN.39493@pd7urf2no...
>> > Well, I got in there with a brush and solvent, and took off some stuff
> on
>> > the sides (beside the butterfly valve, for lack of the technical
> phrases).
>> > But it's opening and closing easily, and it's stopping when it hits the
>> > metal stop on the outside of the throttle. But is it perfectly clean?
>> > No. Should I scrub some more?
>> >
>> > Clint
>> >
>> > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>> > news:zfOdnQqMyL_oSpTbnZ2dnUVZ_o-knZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >> Have you cleaned the throttle body? It's real easy and will eliminate
>> >> that
>> >> as a source of the problem. Oil in the CCV system doesn't help
>> >> either,
>> >> and
>> >> cleaning the orifices is in principle also easy.
>> >>
>> >> Earle
>> >>
>> >> "Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> >> news:3IjOh.81737$DN.58716@pd7urf2no...
>> >>> So I'm getting good vacuum using the very imprecise "finger over the
>> >>> hose
>> >>> end" at the CCV hose, and the TPS sensor goes from about 1 to 5
>> >>> volts.
>> >>> Is
>> >>> there some other things I should check?
>> >>>
>> >>> Today it behaved differently than usual, hitting close to 3000 rpm
> while
>> >>> "idling". Usually it starts at about 800rpm when I start it up, and
>> >>> stays
>> >>> constant at about 1500.
>> >>>
>> >>> Could having a bad CCV valve be causing my problem? I'm getting some
>> >>> oil
>> >> in
>> >>> my air filter as well, and as per these websites, it seems that may
>> >>> be
>> >> that
>> >>> cause of the oil:
>> >>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257836
>> >>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985
>> >>>
>> >>> I did try sealing around the grommets with some RTV silicone, but it
>> >> didn't
>> >>> seem to make a difference.
>> >>>
>> >>> I guess I KNOW that I need to fix the CCV hoses/valves, but can this
> be
>> >>> causing my problem with the high idle? If nothing else, I'm figuring
>> >>> that
>> >>> oil in the air filter probably isn't helping keep the throttle body
>> >>> really
>> >>> clean, since the oil can get into the air system from there.
>> >>>
>> >>> Clint
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
#23
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Re: Still having high idle problem on 88 Jeep Comanche (4.0l)
BTW, this problem SEEMS to have started about the same time as I hauled the
old radiator and water pump out and replaced it. Could very easily just be
coincidence, though. I've tried checking all the vacuum hoses in particular
around the area I was working in, but nothing popped up.
I'm tempted to head out to a wrecker, and see about snagging an old throttle
body (preferably with sensors), just for S&G. Give me something to swap out
some parts to try seeing what's wrong.
So it's not seeming that bad CCV valves/hoses should be causing the high
idle, though?
Clint
"Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:3IjOh.81737$DN.58716@pd7urf2no...
> So I'm getting good vacuum using the very imprecise "finger over the hose
> end" at the CCV hose, and the TPS sensor goes from about 1 to 5 volts. Is
> there some other things I should check?
>
> Today it behaved differently than usual, hitting close to 3000 rpm while
> "idling". Usually it starts at about 800rpm when I start it up, and stays
> constant at about 1500.
>
> Could having a bad CCV valve be causing my problem? I'm getting some oil
> in my air filter as well, and as per these websites, it seems that may be
> that cause of the oil:
> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257836
> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985
>
> I did try sealing around the grommets with some RTV silicone, but it
> didn't seem to make a difference.
>
> I guess I KNOW that I need to fix the CCV hoses/valves, but can this be
> causing my problem with the high idle? If nothing else, I'm figuring that
> oil in the air filter probably isn't helping keep the throttle body really
> clean, since the oil can get into the air system from there.
>
> Clint
old radiator and water pump out and replaced it. Could very easily just be
coincidence, though. I've tried checking all the vacuum hoses in particular
around the area I was working in, but nothing popped up.
I'm tempted to head out to a wrecker, and see about snagging an old throttle
body (preferably with sensors), just for S&G. Give me something to swap out
some parts to try seeing what's wrong.
So it's not seeming that bad CCV valves/hoses should be causing the high
idle, though?
Clint
"Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:3IjOh.81737$DN.58716@pd7urf2no...
> So I'm getting good vacuum using the very imprecise "finger over the hose
> end" at the CCV hose, and the TPS sensor goes from about 1 to 5 volts. Is
> there some other things I should check?
>
> Today it behaved differently than usual, hitting close to 3000 rpm while
> "idling". Usually it starts at about 800rpm when I start it up, and stays
> constant at about 1500.
>
> Could having a bad CCV valve be causing my problem? I'm getting some oil
> in my air filter as well, and as per these websites, it seems that may be
> that cause of the oil:
> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257836
> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985
>
> I did try sealing around the grommets with some RTV silicone, but it
> didn't seem to make a difference.
>
> I guess I KNOW that I need to fix the CCV hoses/valves, but can this be
> causing my problem with the high idle? If nothing else, I'm figuring that
> oil in the air filter probably isn't helping keep the throttle body really
> clean, since the oil can get into the air system from there.
>
> Clint
#24
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Re: Still having high idle problem on 88 Jeep Comanche (4.0l)
BTW, this problem SEEMS to have started about the same time as I hauled the
old radiator and water pump out and replaced it. Could very easily just be
coincidence, though. I've tried checking all the vacuum hoses in particular
around the area I was working in, but nothing popped up.
I'm tempted to head out to a wrecker, and see about snagging an old throttle
body (preferably with sensors), just for S&G. Give me something to swap out
some parts to try seeing what's wrong.
So it's not seeming that bad CCV valves/hoses should be causing the high
idle, though?
Clint
"Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:3IjOh.81737$DN.58716@pd7urf2no...
> So I'm getting good vacuum using the very imprecise "finger over the hose
> end" at the CCV hose, and the TPS sensor goes from about 1 to 5 volts. Is
> there some other things I should check?
>
> Today it behaved differently than usual, hitting close to 3000 rpm while
> "idling". Usually it starts at about 800rpm when I start it up, and stays
> constant at about 1500.
>
> Could having a bad CCV valve be causing my problem? I'm getting some oil
> in my air filter as well, and as per these websites, it seems that may be
> that cause of the oil:
> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257836
> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985
>
> I did try sealing around the grommets with some RTV silicone, but it
> didn't seem to make a difference.
>
> I guess I KNOW that I need to fix the CCV hoses/valves, but can this be
> causing my problem with the high idle? If nothing else, I'm figuring that
> oil in the air filter probably isn't helping keep the throttle body really
> clean, since the oil can get into the air system from there.
>
> Clint
old radiator and water pump out and replaced it. Could very easily just be
coincidence, though. I've tried checking all the vacuum hoses in particular
around the area I was working in, but nothing popped up.
I'm tempted to head out to a wrecker, and see about snagging an old throttle
body (preferably with sensors), just for S&G. Give me something to swap out
some parts to try seeing what's wrong.
So it's not seeming that bad CCV valves/hoses should be causing the high
idle, though?
Clint
"Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:3IjOh.81737$DN.58716@pd7urf2no...
> So I'm getting good vacuum using the very imprecise "finger over the hose
> end" at the CCV hose, and the TPS sensor goes from about 1 to 5 volts. Is
> there some other things I should check?
>
> Today it behaved differently than usual, hitting close to 3000 rpm while
> "idling". Usually it starts at about 800rpm when I start it up, and stays
> constant at about 1500.
>
> Could having a bad CCV valve be causing my problem? I'm getting some oil
> in my air filter as well, and as per these websites, it seems that may be
> that cause of the oil:
> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257836
> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985
>
> I did try sealing around the grommets with some RTV silicone, but it
> didn't seem to make a difference.
>
> I guess I KNOW that I need to fix the CCV hoses/valves, but can this be
> causing my problem with the high idle? If nothing else, I'm figuring that
> oil in the air filter probably isn't helping keep the throttle body really
> clean, since the oil can get into the air system from there.
>
> Clint
#25
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Posts: n/a
Re: Still having high idle problem on 88 Jeep Comanche (4.0l)
BTW, this problem SEEMS to have started about the same time as I hauled the
old radiator and water pump out and replaced it. Could very easily just be
coincidence, though. I've tried checking all the vacuum hoses in particular
around the area I was working in, but nothing popped up.
I'm tempted to head out to a wrecker, and see about snagging an old throttle
body (preferably with sensors), just for S&G. Give me something to swap out
some parts to try seeing what's wrong.
So it's not seeming that bad CCV valves/hoses should be causing the high
idle, though?
Clint
"Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:3IjOh.81737$DN.58716@pd7urf2no...
> So I'm getting good vacuum using the very imprecise "finger over the hose
> end" at the CCV hose, and the TPS sensor goes from about 1 to 5 volts. Is
> there some other things I should check?
>
> Today it behaved differently than usual, hitting close to 3000 rpm while
> "idling". Usually it starts at about 800rpm when I start it up, and stays
> constant at about 1500.
>
> Could having a bad CCV valve be causing my problem? I'm getting some oil
> in my air filter as well, and as per these websites, it seems that may be
> that cause of the oil:
> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257836
> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985
>
> I did try sealing around the grommets with some RTV silicone, but it
> didn't seem to make a difference.
>
> I guess I KNOW that I need to fix the CCV hoses/valves, but can this be
> causing my problem with the high idle? If nothing else, I'm figuring that
> oil in the air filter probably isn't helping keep the throttle body really
> clean, since the oil can get into the air system from there.
>
> Clint
old radiator and water pump out and replaced it. Could very easily just be
coincidence, though. I've tried checking all the vacuum hoses in particular
around the area I was working in, but nothing popped up.
I'm tempted to head out to a wrecker, and see about snagging an old throttle
body (preferably with sensors), just for S&G. Give me something to swap out
some parts to try seeing what's wrong.
So it's not seeming that bad CCV valves/hoses should be causing the high
idle, though?
Clint
"Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:3IjOh.81737$DN.58716@pd7urf2no...
> So I'm getting good vacuum using the very imprecise "finger over the hose
> end" at the CCV hose, and the TPS sensor goes from about 1 to 5 volts. Is
> there some other things I should check?
>
> Today it behaved differently than usual, hitting close to 3000 rpm while
> "idling". Usually it starts at about 800rpm when I start it up, and stays
> constant at about 1500.
>
> Could having a bad CCV valve be causing my problem? I'm getting some oil
> in my air filter as well, and as per these websites, it seems that may be
> that cause of the oil:
> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257836
> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985
>
> I did try sealing around the grommets with some RTV silicone, but it
> didn't seem to make a difference.
>
> I guess I KNOW that I need to fix the CCV hoses/valves, but can this be
> causing my problem with the high idle? If nothing else, I'm figuring that
> oil in the air filter probably isn't helping keep the throttle body really
> clean, since the oil can get into the air system from there.
>
> Clint
#26
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Re: Still having high idle problem on 88 Jeep Comanche (4.0l)
It's only four bolts that hold the TB on, and the cables. Takes about 5
minutes to pull. Don't loose the cable clips, and be sure you make a note of
what cables go where.
Carl
"Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:xxEOh.85181$zU1.26284@pd7urf1no...
> I'm thinking it may not be too easy to haul the throttle body off, but I'd
> imagine that would make it much easier to clean properly?
>
> Clint
>
> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> news:m5idncsNF6SeepTbnZ2dnUVZ_vShnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Agreed. The IAC too. (Idle Air Controller). This can get jammed with
>> tiny
>> amounts of deposits. I would probably use carburetor cleaner.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:R-6dnXAjo_RZfJTbnZ2dnUVZ_segnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Scrub till you'd eat from it.
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>> "Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:S5lOh.82165$DN.39493@pd7urf2no...
>>> > Well, I got in there with a brush and solvent, and took off some stuff
>> on
>>> > the sides (beside the butterfly valve, for lack of the technical
>> phrases).
>>> > But it's opening and closing easily, and it's stopping when it hits
>>> > the
>>> > metal stop on the outside of the throttle. But is it perfectly clean?
>>> > No. Should I scrub some more?
>>> >
>>> > Clint
>>> >
>>> > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>>> > news:zfOdnQqMyL_oSpTbnZ2dnUVZ_o-knZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> >> Have you cleaned the throttle body? It's real easy and will
>>> >> eliminate
>>> >> that
>>> >> as a source of the problem. Oil in the CCV system doesn't help
>>> >> either,
>>> >> and
>>> >> cleaning the orifices is in principle also easy.
>>> >>
>>> >> Earle
>>> >>
>>> >> "Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>> >> news:3IjOh.81737$DN.58716@pd7urf2no...
>>> >>> So I'm getting good vacuum using the very imprecise "finger over the
>>> >>> hose
>>> >>> end" at the CCV hose, and the TPS sensor goes from about 1 to 5
>>> >>> volts.
>>> >>> Is
>>> >>> there some other things I should check?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Today it behaved differently than usual, hitting close to 3000 rpm
>> while
>>> >>> "idling". Usually it starts at about 800rpm when I start it up, and
>>> >>> stays
>>> >>> constant at about 1500.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Could having a bad CCV valve be causing my problem? I'm getting
>>> >>> some
>>> >>> oil
>>> >> in
>>> >>> my air filter as well, and as per these websites, it seems that may
>>> >>> be
>>> >> that
>>> >>> cause of the oil:
>>> >>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257836
>>> >>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I did try sealing around the grommets with some RTV silicone, but it
>>> >> didn't
>>> >>> seem to make a difference.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I guess I KNOW that I need to fix the CCV hoses/valves, but can this
>> be
>>> >>> causing my problem with the high idle? If nothing else, I'm
>>> >>> figuring
>>> >>> that
>>> >>> oil in the air filter probably isn't helping keep the throttle body
>>> >>> really
>>> >>> clean, since the oil can get into the air system from there.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Clint
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
minutes to pull. Don't loose the cable clips, and be sure you make a note of
what cables go where.
Carl
"Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:xxEOh.85181$zU1.26284@pd7urf1no...
> I'm thinking it may not be too easy to haul the throttle body off, but I'd
> imagine that would make it much easier to clean properly?
>
> Clint
>
> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> news:m5idncsNF6SeepTbnZ2dnUVZ_vShnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Agreed. The IAC too. (Idle Air Controller). This can get jammed with
>> tiny
>> amounts of deposits. I would probably use carburetor cleaner.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:R-6dnXAjo_RZfJTbnZ2dnUVZ_segnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Scrub till you'd eat from it.
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>> "Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:S5lOh.82165$DN.39493@pd7urf2no...
>>> > Well, I got in there with a brush and solvent, and took off some stuff
>> on
>>> > the sides (beside the butterfly valve, for lack of the technical
>> phrases).
>>> > But it's opening and closing easily, and it's stopping when it hits
>>> > the
>>> > metal stop on the outside of the throttle. But is it perfectly clean?
>>> > No. Should I scrub some more?
>>> >
>>> > Clint
>>> >
>>> > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>>> > news:zfOdnQqMyL_oSpTbnZ2dnUVZ_o-knZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> >> Have you cleaned the throttle body? It's real easy and will
>>> >> eliminate
>>> >> that
>>> >> as a source of the problem. Oil in the CCV system doesn't help
>>> >> either,
>>> >> and
>>> >> cleaning the orifices is in principle also easy.
>>> >>
>>> >> Earle
>>> >>
>>> >> "Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>> >> news:3IjOh.81737$DN.58716@pd7urf2no...
>>> >>> So I'm getting good vacuum using the very imprecise "finger over the
>>> >>> hose
>>> >>> end" at the CCV hose, and the TPS sensor goes from about 1 to 5
>>> >>> volts.
>>> >>> Is
>>> >>> there some other things I should check?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Today it behaved differently than usual, hitting close to 3000 rpm
>> while
>>> >>> "idling". Usually it starts at about 800rpm when I start it up, and
>>> >>> stays
>>> >>> constant at about 1500.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Could having a bad CCV valve be causing my problem? I'm getting
>>> >>> some
>>> >>> oil
>>> >> in
>>> >>> my air filter as well, and as per these websites, it seems that may
>>> >>> be
>>> >> that
>>> >>> cause of the oil:
>>> >>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257836
>>> >>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I did try sealing around the grommets with some RTV silicone, but it
>>> >> didn't
>>> >>> seem to make a difference.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I guess I KNOW that I need to fix the CCV hoses/valves, but can this
>> be
>>> >>> causing my problem with the high idle? If nothing else, I'm
>>> >>> figuring
>>> >>> that
>>> >>> oil in the air filter probably isn't helping keep the throttle body
>>> >>> really
>>> >>> clean, since the oil can get into the air system from there.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Clint
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
#27
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Still having high idle problem on 88 Jeep Comanche (4.0l)
It's only four bolts that hold the TB on, and the cables. Takes about 5
minutes to pull. Don't loose the cable clips, and be sure you make a note of
what cables go where.
Carl
"Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:xxEOh.85181$zU1.26284@pd7urf1no...
> I'm thinking it may not be too easy to haul the throttle body off, but I'd
> imagine that would make it much easier to clean properly?
>
> Clint
>
> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> news:m5idncsNF6SeepTbnZ2dnUVZ_vShnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Agreed. The IAC too. (Idle Air Controller). This can get jammed with
>> tiny
>> amounts of deposits. I would probably use carburetor cleaner.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:R-6dnXAjo_RZfJTbnZ2dnUVZ_segnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Scrub till you'd eat from it.
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>> "Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:S5lOh.82165$DN.39493@pd7urf2no...
>>> > Well, I got in there with a brush and solvent, and took off some stuff
>> on
>>> > the sides (beside the butterfly valve, for lack of the technical
>> phrases).
>>> > But it's opening and closing easily, and it's stopping when it hits
>>> > the
>>> > metal stop on the outside of the throttle. But is it perfectly clean?
>>> > No. Should I scrub some more?
>>> >
>>> > Clint
>>> >
>>> > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>>> > news:zfOdnQqMyL_oSpTbnZ2dnUVZ_o-knZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> >> Have you cleaned the throttle body? It's real easy and will
>>> >> eliminate
>>> >> that
>>> >> as a source of the problem. Oil in the CCV system doesn't help
>>> >> either,
>>> >> and
>>> >> cleaning the orifices is in principle also easy.
>>> >>
>>> >> Earle
>>> >>
>>> >> "Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>> >> news:3IjOh.81737$DN.58716@pd7urf2no...
>>> >>> So I'm getting good vacuum using the very imprecise "finger over the
>>> >>> hose
>>> >>> end" at the CCV hose, and the TPS sensor goes from about 1 to 5
>>> >>> volts.
>>> >>> Is
>>> >>> there some other things I should check?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Today it behaved differently than usual, hitting close to 3000 rpm
>> while
>>> >>> "idling". Usually it starts at about 800rpm when I start it up, and
>>> >>> stays
>>> >>> constant at about 1500.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Could having a bad CCV valve be causing my problem? I'm getting
>>> >>> some
>>> >>> oil
>>> >> in
>>> >>> my air filter as well, and as per these websites, it seems that may
>>> >>> be
>>> >> that
>>> >>> cause of the oil:
>>> >>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257836
>>> >>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I did try sealing around the grommets with some RTV silicone, but it
>>> >> didn't
>>> >>> seem to make a difference.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I guess I KNOW that I need to fix the CCV hoses/valves, but can this
>> be
>>> >>> causing my problem with the high idle? If nothing else, I'm
>>> >>> figuring
>>> >>> that
>>> >>> oil in the air filter probably isn't helping keep the throttle body
>>> >>> really
>>> >>> clean, since the oil can get into the air system from there.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Clint
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
minutes to pull. Don't loose the cable clips, and be sure you make a note of
what cables go where.
Carl
"Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:xxEOh.85181$zU1.26284@pd7urf1no...
> I'm thinking it may not be too easy to haul the throttle body off, but I'd
> imagine that would make it much easier to clean properly?
>
> Clint
>
> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> news:m5idncsNF6SeepTbnZ2dnUVZ_vShnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Agreed. The IAC too. (Idle Air Controller). This can get jammed with
>> tiny
>> amounts of deposits. I would probably use carburetor cleaner.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:R-6dnXAjo_RZfJTbnZ2dnUVZ_segnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Scrub till you'd eat from it.
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>> "Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:S5lOh.82165$DN.39493@pd7urf2no...
>>> > Well, I got in there with a brush and solvent, and took off some stuff
>> on
>>> > the sides (beside the butterfly valve, for lack of the technical
>> phrases).
>>> > But it's opening and closing easily, and it's stopping when it hits
>>> > the
>>> > metal stop on the outside of the throttle. But is it perfectly clean?
>>> > No. Should I scrub some more?
>>> >
>>> > Clint
>>> >
>>> > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>>> > news:zfOdnQqMyL_oSpTbnZ2dnUVZ_o-knZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> >> Have you cleaned the throttle body? It's real easy and will
>>> >> eliminate
>>> >> that
>>> >> as a source of the problem. Oil in the CCV system doesn't help
>>> >> either,
>>> >> and
>>> >> cleaning the orifices is in principle also easy.
>>> >>
>>> >> Earle
>>> >>
>>> >> "Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>> >> news:3IjOh.81737$DN.58716@pd7urf2no...
>>> >>> So I'm getting good vacuum using the very imprecise "finger over the
>>> >>> hose
>>> >>> end" at the CCV hose, and the TPS sensor goes from about 1 to 5
>>> >>> volts.
>>> >>> Is
>>> >>> there some other things I should check?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Today it behaved differently than usual, hitting close to 3000 rpm
>> while
>>> >>> "idling". Usually it starts at about 800rpm when I start it up, and
>>> >>> stays
>>> >>> constant at about 1500.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Could having a bad CCV valve be causing my problem? I'm getting
>>> >>> some
>>> >>> oil
>>> >> in
>>> >>> my air filter as well, and as per these websites, it seems that may
>>> >>> be
>>> >> that
>>> >>> cause of the oil:
>>> >>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257836
>>> >>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I did try sealing around the grommets with some RTV silicone, but it
>>> >> didn't
>>> >>> seem to make a difference.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I guess I KNOW that I need to fix the CCV hoses/valves, but can this
>> be
>>> >>> causing my problem with the high idle? If nothing else, I'm
>>> >>> figuring
>>> >>> that
>>> >>> oil in the air filter probably isn't helping keep the throttle body
>>> >>> really
>>> >>> clean, since the oil can get into the air system from there.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Clint
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
#28
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Still having high idle problem on 88 Jeep Comanche (4.0l)
It's only four bolts that hold the TB on, and the cables. Takes about 5
minutes to pull. Don't loose the cable clips, and be sure you make a note of
what cables go where.
Carl
"Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:xxEOh.85181$zU1.26284@pd7urf1no...
> I'm thinking it may not be too easy to haul the throttle body off, but I'd
> imagine that would make it much easier to clean properly?
>
> Clint
>
> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> news:m5idncsNF6SeepTbnZ2dnUVZ_vShnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Agreed. The IAC too. (Idle Air Controller). This can get jammed with
>> tiny
>> amounts of deposits. I would probably use carburetor cleaner.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:R-6dnXAjo_RZfJTbnZ2dnUVZ_segnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Scrub till you'd eat from it.
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>> "Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:S5lOh.82165$DN.39493@pd7urf2no...
>>> > Well, I got in there with a brush and solvent, and took off some stuff
>> on
>>> > the sides (beside the butterfly valve, for lack of the technical
>> phrases).
>>> > But it's opening and closing easily, and it's stopping when it hits
>>> > the
>>> > metal stop on the outside of the throttle. But is it perfectly clean?
>>> > No. Should I scrub some more?
>>> >
>>> > Clint
>>> >
>>> > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>>> > news:zfOdnQqMyL_oSpTbnZ2dnUVZ_o-knZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> >> Have you cleaned the throttle body? It's real easy and will
>>> >> eliminate
>>> >> that
>>> >> as a source of the problem. Oil in the CCV system doesn't help
>>> >> either,
>>> >> and
>>> >> cleaning the orifices is in principle also easy.
>>> >>
>>> >> Earle
>>> >>
>>> >> "Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>> >> news:3IjOh.81737$DN.58716@pd7urf2no...
>>> >>> So I'm getting good vacuum using the very imprecise "finger over the
>>> >>> hose
>>> >>> end" at the CCV hose, and the TPS sensor goes from about 1 to 5
>>> >>> volts.
>>> >>> Is
>>> >>> there some other things I should check?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Today it behaved differently than usual, hitting close to 3000 rpm
>> while
>>> >>> "idling". Usually it starts at about 800rpm when I start it up, and
>>> >>> stays
>>> >>> constant at about 1500.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Could having a bad CCV valve be causing my problem? I'm getting
>>> >>> some
>>> >>> oil
>>> >> in
>>> >>> my air filter as well, and as per these websites, it seems that may
>>> >>> be
>>> >> that
>>> >>> cause of the oil:
>>> >>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257836
>>> >>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I did try sealing around the grommets with some RTV silicone, but it
>>> >> didn't
>>> >>> seem to make a difference.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I guess I KNOW that I need to fix the CCV hoses/valves, but can this
>> be
>>> >>> causing my problem with the high idle? If nothing else, I'm
>>> >>> figuring
>>> >>> that
>>> >>> oil in the air filter probably isn't helping keep the throttle body
>>> >>> really
>>> >>> clean, since the oil can get into the air system from there.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Clint
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
minutes to pull. Don't loose the cable clips, and be sure you make a note of
what cables go where.
Carl
"Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:xxEOh.85181$zU1.26284@pd7urf1no...
> I'm thinking it may not be too easy to haul the throttle body off, but I'd
> imagine that would make it much easier to clean properly?
>
> Clint
>
> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> news:m5idncsNF6SeepTbnZ2dnUVZ_vShnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Agreed. The IAC too. (Idle Air Controller). This can get jammed with
>> tiny
>> amounts of deposits. I would probably use carburetor cleaner.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:R-6dnXAjo_RZfJTbnZ2dnUVZ_segnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Scrub till you'd eat from it.
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>> "Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:S5lOh.82165$DN.39493@pd7urf2no...
>>> > Well, I got in there with a brush and solvent, and took off some stuff
>> on
>>> > the sides (beside the butterfly valve, for lack of the technical
>> phrases).
>>> > But it's opening and closing easily, and it's stopping when it hits
>>> > the
>>> > metal stop on the outside of the throttle. But is it perfectly clean?
>>> > No. Should I scrub some more?
>>> >
>>> > Clint
>>> >
>>> > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>>> > news:zfOdnQqMyL_oSpTbnZ2dnUVZ_o-knZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> >> Have you cleaned the throttle body? It's real easy and will
>>> >> eliminate
>>> >> that
>>> >> as a source of the problem. Oil in the CCV system doesn't help
>>> >> either,
>>> >> and
>>> >> cleaning the orifices is in principle also easy.
>>> >>
>>> >> Earle
>>> >>
>>> >> "Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>> >> news:3IjOh.81737$DN.58716@pd7urf2no...
>>> >>> So I'm getting good vacuum using the very imprecise "finger over the
>>> >>> hose
>>> >>> end" at the CCV hose, and the TPS sensor goes from about 1 to 5
>>> >>> volts.
>>> >>> Is
>>> >>> there some other things I should check?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Today it behaved differently than usual, hitting close to 3000 rpm
>> while
>>> >>> "idling". Usually it starts at about 800rpm when I start it up, and
>>> >>> stays
>>> >>> constant at about 1500.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Could having a bad CCV valve be causing my problem? I'm getting
>>> >>> some
>>> >>> oil
>>> >> in
>>> >>> my air filter as well, and as per these websites, it seems that may
>>> >>> be
>>> >> that
>>> >>> cause of the oil:
>>> >>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257836
>>> >>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I did try sealing around the grommets with some RTV silicone, but it
>>> >> didn't
>>> >>> seem to make a difference.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I guess I KNOW that I need to fix the CCV hoses/valves, but can this
>> be
>>> >>> causing my problem with the high idle? If nothing else, I'm
>>> >>> figuring
>>> >>> that
>>> >>> oil in the air filter probably isn't helping keep the throttle body
>>> >>> really
>>> >>> clean, since the oil can get into the air system from there.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Clint
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
#29
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Still having high idle problem on 88 Jeep Comanche (4.0l)
That's the thinking. The theory is that your IAC has carbon in it, which is
making it function improperly, which is what is messing with your idle
speed. Cleaning the contacts for the various sensors mentioned can help
too.
Earle
"Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:xxEOh.85181$zU1.26284@pd7urf1no...
> I'm thinking it may not be too easy to haul the throttle body off, but I'd
> imagine that would make it much easier to clean properly?
>
> Clint
>
> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> news:m5idncsNF6SeepTbnZ2dnUVZ_vShnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> > Agreed. The IAC too. (Idle Air Controller). This can get jammed with
> > tiny
> > amounts of deposits. I would probably use carburetor cleaner.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:R-6dnXAjo_RZfJTbnZ2dnUVZ_segnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> Scrub till you'd eat from it.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >> "Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:S5lOh.82165$DN.39493@pd7urf2no...
> >> > Well, I got in there with a brush and solvent, and took off some
stuff
> > on
> >> > the sides (beside the butterfly valve, for lack of the technical
> > phrases).
> >> > But it's opening and closing easily, and it's stopping when it hits
the
> >> > metal stop on the outside of the throttle. But is it perfectly
clean?
> >> > No. Should I scrub some more?
> >> >
> >> > Clint
> >> >
> >> > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> >> > news:zfOdnQqMyL_oSpTbnZ2dnUVZ_o-knZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> >> Have you cleaned the throttle body? It's real easy and will
eliminate
> >> >> that
> >> >> as a source of the problem. Oil in the CCV system doesn't help
> >> >> either,
> >> >> and
> >> >> cleaning the orifices is in principle also easy.
> >> >>
> >> >> Earle
> >> >>
> >> >> "Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
> >> >> news:3IjOh.81737$DN.58716@pd7urf2no...
> >> >>> So I'm getting good vacuum using the very imprecise "finger over
the
> >> >>> hose
> >> >>> end" at the CCV hose, and the TPS sensor goes from about 1 to 5
> >> >>> volts.
> >> >>> Is
> >> >>> there some other things I should check?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Today it behaved differently than usual, hitting close to 3000 rpm
> > while
> >> >>> "idling". Usually it starts at about 800rpm when I start it up,
and
> >> >>> stays
> >> >>> constant at about 1500.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Could having a bad CCV valve be causing my problem? I'm getting
some
> >> >>> oil
> >> >> in
> >> >>> my air filter as well, and as per these websites, it seems that may
> >> >>> be
> >> >> that
> >> >>> cause of the oil:
> >> >>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257836
> >> >>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I did try sealing around the grommets with some RTV silicone, but
it
> >> >> didn't
> >> >>> seem to make a difference.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I guess I KNOW that I need to fix the CCV hoses/valves, but can
this
> > be
> >> >>> causing my problem with the high idle? If nothing else, I'm
figuring
> >> >>> that
> >> >>> oil in the air filter probably isn't helping keep the throttle body
> >> >>> really
> >> >>> clean, since the oil can get into the air system from there.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Clint
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
making it function improperly, which is what is messing with your idle
speed. Cleaning the contacts for the various sensors mentioned can help
too.
Earle
"Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:xxEOh.85181$zU1.26284@pd7urf1no...
> I'm thinking it may not be too easy to haul the throttle body off, but I'd
> imagine that would make it much easier to clean properly?
>
> Clint
>
> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> news:m5idncsNF6SeepTbnZ2dnUVZ_vShnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> > Agreed. The IAC too. (Idle Air Controller). This can get jammed with
> > tiny
> > amounts of deposits. I would probably use carburetor cleaner.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:R-6dnXAjo_RZfJTbnZ2dnUVZ_segnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> Scrub till you'd eat from it.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >> "Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:S5lOh.82165$DN.39493@pd7urf2no...
> >> > Well, I got in there with a brush and solvent, and took off some
stuff
> > on
> >> > the sides (beside the butterfly valve, for lack of the technical
> > phrases).
> >> > But it's opening and closing easily, and it's stopping when it hits
the
> >> > metal stop on the outside of the throttle. But is it perfectly
clean?
> >> > No. Should I scrub some more?
> >> >
> >> > Clint
> >> >
> >> > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> >> > news:zfOdnQqMyL_oSpTbnZ2dnUVZ_o-knZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> >> Have you cleaned the throttle body? It's real easy and will
eliminate
> >> >> that
> >> >> as a source of the problem. Oil in the CCV system doesn't help
> >> >> either,
> >> >> and
> >> >> cleaning the orifices is in principle also easy.
> >> >>
> >> >> Earle
> >> >>
> >> >> "Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
> >> >> news:3IjOh.81737$DN.58716@pd7urf2no...
> >> >>> So I'm getting good vacuum using the very imprecise "finger over
the
> >> >>> hose
> >> >>> end" at the CCV hose, and the TPS sensor goes from about 1 to 5
> >> >>> volts.
> >> >>> Is
> >> >>> there some other things I should check?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Today it behaved differently than usual, hitting close to 3000 rpm
> > while
> >> >>> "idling". Usually it starts at about 800rpm when I start it up,
and
> >> >>> stays
> >> >>> constant at about 1500.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Could having a bad CCV valve be causing my problem? I'm getting
some
> >> >>> oil
> >> >> in
> >> >>> my air filter as well, and as per these websites, it seems that may
> >> >>> be
> >> >> that
> >> >>> cause of the oil:
> >> >>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257836
> >> >>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I did try sealing around the grommets with some RTV silicone, but
it
> >> >> didn't
> >> >>> seem to make a difference.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I guess I KNOW that I need to fix the CCV hoses/valves, but can
this
> > be
> >> >>> causing my problem with the high idle? If nothing else, I'm
figuring
> >> >>> that
> >> >>> oil in the air filter probably isn't helping keep the throttle body
> >> >>> really
> >> >>> clean, since the oil can get into the air system from there.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Clint
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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Re: Still having high idle problem on 88 Jeep Comanche (4.0l)
That's the thinking. The theory is that your IAC has carbon in it, which is
making it function improperly, which is what is messing with your idle
speed. Cleaning the contacts for the various sensors mentioned can help
too.
Earle
"Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:xxEOh.85181$zU1.26284@pd7urf1no...
> I'm thinking it may not be too easy to haul the throttle body off, but I'd
> imagine that would make it much easier to clean properly?
>
> Clint
>
> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> news:m5idncsNF6SeepTbnZ2dnUVZ_vShnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> > Agreed. The IAC too. (Idle Air Controller). This can get jammed with
> > tiny
> > amounts of deposits. I would probably use carburetor cleaner.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:R-6dnXAjo_RZfJTbnZ2dnUVZ_segnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> Scrub till you'd eat from it.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >> "Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:S5lOh.82165$DN.39493@pd7urf2no...
> >> > Well, I got in there with a brush and solvent, and took off some
stuff
> > on
> >> > the sides (beside the butterfly valve, for lack of the technical
> > phrases).
> >> > But it's opening and closing easily, and it's stopping when it hits
the
> >> > metal stop on the outside of the throttle. But is it perfectly
clean?
> >> > No. Should I scrub some more?
> >> >
> >> > Clint
> >> >
> >> > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> >> > news:zfOdnQqMyL_oSpTbnZ2dnUVZ_o-knZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> >> Have you cleaned the throttle body? It's real easy and will
eliminate
> >> >> that
> >> >> as a source of the problem. Oil in the CCV system doesn't help
> >> >> either,
> >> >> and
> >> >> cleaning the orifices is in principle also easy.
> >> >>
> >> >> Earle
> >> >>
> >> >> "Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
> >> >> news:3IjOh.81737$DN.58716@pd7urf2no...
> >> >>> So I'm getting good vacuum using the very imprecise "finger over
the
> >> >>> hose
> >> >>> end" at the CCV hose, and the TPS sensor goes from about 1 to 5
> >> >>> volts.
> >> >>> Is
> >> >>> there some other things I should check?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Today it behaved differently than usual, hitting close to 3000 rpm
> > while
> >> >>> "idling". Usually it starts at about 800rpm when I start it up,
and
> >> >>> stays
> >> >>> constant at about 1500.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Could having a bad CCV valve be causing my problem? I'm getting
some
> >> >>> oil
> >> >> in
> >> >>> my air filter as well, and as per these websites, it seems that may
> >> >>> be
> >> >> that
> >> >>> cause of the oil:
> >> >>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257836
> >> >>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I did try sealing around the grommets with some RTV silicone, but
it
> >> >> didn't
> >> >>> seem to make a difference.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I guess I KNOW that I need to fix the CCV hoses/valves, but can
this
> > be
> >> >>> causing my problem with the high idle? If nothing else, I'm
figuring
> >> >>> that
> >> >>> oil in the air filter probably isn't helping keep the throttle body
> >> >>> really
> >> >>> clean, since the oil can get into the air system from there.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Clint
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
making it function improperly, which is what is messing with your idle
speed. Cleaning the contacts for the various sensors mentioned can help
too.
Earle
"Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:xxEOh.85181$zU1.26284@pd7urf1no...
> I'm thinking it may not be too easy to haul the throttle body off, but I'd
> imagine that would make it much easier to clean properly?
>
> Clint
>
> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> news:m5idncsNF6SeepTbnZ2dnUVZ_vShnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> > Agreed. The IAC too. (Idle Air Controller). This can get jammed with
> > tiny
> > amounts of deposits. I would probably use carburetor cleaner.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:R-6dnXAjo_RZfJTbnZ2dnUVZ_segnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> Scrub till you'd eat from it.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >> "Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:S5lOh.82165$DN.39493@pd7urf2no...
> >> > Well, I got in there with a brush and solvent, and took off some
stuff
> > on
> >> > the sides (beside the butterfly valve, for lack of the technical
> > phrases).
> >> > But it's opening and closing easily, and it's stopping when it hits
the
> >> > metal stop on the outside of the throttle. But is it perfectly
clean?
> >> > No. Should I scrub some more?
> >> >
> >> > Clint
> >> >
> >> > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> >> > news:zfOdnQqMyL_oSpTbnZ2dnUVZ_o-knZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> >> Have you cleaned the throttle body? It's real easy and will
eliminate
> >> >> that
> >> >> as a source of the problem. Oil in the CCV system doesn't help
> >> >> either,
> >> >> and
> >> >> cleaning the orifices is in principle also easy.
> >> >>
> >> >> Earle
> >> >>
> >> >> "Clint" <cneufeld@mysocks.shaw.ca> wrote in message
> >> >> news:3IjOh.81737$DN.58716@pd7urf2no...
> >> >>> So I'm getting good vacuum using the very imprecise "finger over
the
> >> >>> hose
> >> >>> end" at the CCV hose, and the TPS sensor goes from about 1 to 5
> >> >>> volts.
> >> >>> Is
> >> >>> there some other things I should check?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Today it behaved differently than usual, hitting close to 3000 rpm
> > while
> >> >>> "idling". Usually it starts at about 800rpm when I start it up,
and
> >> >>> stays
> >> >>> constant at about 1500.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Could having a bad CCV valve be causing my problem? I'm getting
some
> >> >>> oil
> >> >> in
> >> >>> my air filter as well, and as per these websites, it seems that may
> >> >>> be
> >> >> that
> >> >>> cause of the oil:
> >> >>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257836
> >> >>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I did try sealing around the grommets with some RTV silicone, but
it
> >> >> didn't
> >> >>> seem to make a difference.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I guess I KNOW that I need to fix the CCV hoses/valves, but can
this
> > be
> >> >>> causing my problem with the high idle? If nothing else, I'm
figuring
> >> >>> that
> >> >>> oil in the air filter probably isn't helping keep the throttle body
> >> >>> really
> >> >>> clean, since the oil can get into the air system from there.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Clint
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>