Steel vs Alloy rims
07-31-2004, 09:55 AM
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Re: Steel vs Alloy rims
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:56:12 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
<jerrypb@***.net> wrote:
>This can't be the hard-core offroader Matt Osborn I know. :)
>
>Good quality aluminum wheels don't bend as easily offroad as steel wheels do
>(personal experience backs that up big time), aluminum is lighter so there
>is less unsprung weight, aluminum doesn't rust and need painting after every
>tough offroading trip and forged aluminum wheels are actually stronger than
>the equivilent steel wheel.
I thought bending was an advantage; the allow would break rather than
bend.
<jerrypb@***.net> wrote:
>This can't be the hard-core offroader Matt Osborn I know. :)
>
>Good quality aluminum wheels don't bend as easily offroad as steel wheels do
>(personal experience backs that up big time), aluminum is lighter so there
>is less unsprung weight, aluminum doesn't rust and need painting after every
>tough offroading trip and forged aluminum wheels are actually stronger than
>the equivilent steel wheel.
I thought bending was an advantage; the allow would break rather than
bend.
07-31-2004, 09:55 AM
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Re: Steel vs Alloy rims
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:56:12 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
<jerrypb@***.net> wrote:
>This can't be the hard-core offroader Matt Osborn I know. :)
>
>Good quality aluminum wheels don't bend as easily offroad as steel wheels do
>(personal experience backs that up big time), aluminum is lighter so there
>is less unsprung weight, aluminum doesn't rust and need painting after every
>tough offroading trip and forged aluminum wheels are actually stronger than
>the equivilent steel wheel.
I thought bending was an advantage; the allow would break rather than
bend.
<jerrypb@***.net> wrote:
>This can't be the hard-core offroader Matt Osborn I know. :)
>
>Good quality aluminum wheels don't bend as easily offroad as steel wheels do
>(personal experience backs that up big time), aluminum is lighter so there
>is less unsprung weight, aluminum doesn't rust and need painting after every
>tough offroading trip and forged aluminum wheels are actually stronger than
>the equivilent steel wheel.
I thought bending was an advantage; the allow would break rather than
bend.
07-31-2004, 09:55 AM
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Re: Steel vs Alloy rims
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:56:12 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
<jerrypb@***.net> wrote:
>This can't be the hard-core offroader Matt Osborn I know. :)
>
>Good quality aluminum wheels don't bend as easily offroad as steel wheels do
>(personal experience backs that up big time), aluminum is lighter so there
>is less unsprung weight, aluminum doesn't rust and need painting after every
>tough offroading trip and forged aluminum wheels are actually stronger than
>the equivilent steel wheel.
I thought bending was an advantage; the allow would break rather than
bend.
<jerrypb@***.net> wrote:
>This can't be the hard-core offroader Matt Osborn I know. :)
>
>Good quality aluminum wheels don't bend as easily offroad as steel wheels do
>(personal experience backs that up big time), aluminum is lighter so there
>is less unsprung weight, aluminum doesn't rust and need painting after every
>tough offroading trip and forged aluminum wheels are actually stronger than
>the equivilent steel wheel.
I thought bending was an advantage; the allow would break rather than
bend.
07-31-2004, 10:40 AM
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Re: Steel vs Alloy rims
Matt Osborn wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:56:12 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
> <jerrypb@***.net> wrote:
>
>
>>This can't be the hard-core offroader Matt Osborn I know. :)
>>
>>Good quality aluminum wheels don't bend as easily offroad as steel wheels do
>>(personal experience backs that up big time), aluminum is lighter so there
>>is less unsprung weight, aluminum doesn't rust and need painting after every
>>tough offroading trip and forged aluminum wheels are actually stronger than
>>the equivilent steel wheel.
>
>
> I thought bending was an advantage; the allow would break rather than
> bend.
True, but if the forged alum. survives unscathed where steel bends...
I use aluminum because of the reasons Jerry posted, but unfortunately do
not have forged wheels. No problems so far, but I'm not a hardcore rock
crawler either.
--
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> On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:56:12 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
> <jerrypb@***.net> wrote:
>
>
>>This can't be the hard-core offroader Matt Osborn I know. :)
>>
>>Good quality aluminum wheels don't bend as easily offroad as steel wheels do
>>(personal experience backs that up big time), aluminum is lighter so there
>>is less unsprung weight, aluminum doesn't rust and need painting after every
>>tough offroading trip and forged aluminum wheels are actually stronger than
>>the equivilent steel wheel.
>
>
> I thought bending was an advantage; the allow would break rather than
> bend.
True, but if the forged alum. survives unscathed where steel bends...
I use aluminum because of the reasons Jerry posted, but unfortunately do
not have forged wheels. No problems so far, but I'm not a hardcore rock
crawler either.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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07-31-2004, 10:40 AM
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Re: Steel vs Alloy rims
Matt Osborn wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:56:12 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
> <jerrypb@***.net> wrote:
>
>
>>This can't be the hard-core offroader Matt Osborn I know. :)
>>
>>Good quality aluminum wheels don't bend as easily offroad as steel wheels do
>>(personal experience backs that up big time), aluminum is lighter so there
>>is less unsprung weight, aluminum doesn't rust and need painting after every
>>tough offroading trip and forged aluminum wheels are actually stronger than
>>the equivilent steel wheel.
>
>
> I thought bending was an advantage; the allow would break rather than
> bend.
True, but if the forged alum. survives unscathed where steel bends...
I use aluminum because of the reasons Jerry posted, but unfortunately do
not have forged wheels. No problems so far, but I'm not a hardcore rock
crawler either.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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> On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:56:12 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
> <jerrypb@***.net> wrote:
>
>
>>This can't be the hard-core offroader Matt Osborn I know. :)
>>
>>Good quality aluminum wheels don't bend as easily offroad as steel wheels do
>>(personal experience backs that up big time), aluminum is lighter so there
>>is less unsprung weight, aluminum doesn't rust and need painting after every
>>tough offroading trip and forged aluminum wheels are actually stronger than
>>the equivilent steel wheel.
>
>
> I thought bending was an advantage; the allow would break rather than
> bend.
True, but if the forged alum. survives unscathed where steel bends...
I use aluminum because of the reasons Jerry posted, but unfortunately do
not have forged wheels. No problems so far, but I'm not a hardcore rock
crawler either.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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07-31-2004, 10:40 AM
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Re: Steel vs Alloy rims
Matt Osborn wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:56:12 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
> <jerrypb@***.net> wrote:
>
>
>>This can't be the hard-core offroader Matt Osborn I know. :)
>>
>>Good quality aluminum wheels don't bend as easily offroad as steel wheels do
>>(personal experience backs that up big time), aluminum is lighter so there
>>is less unsprung weight, aluminum doesn't rust and need painting after every
>>tough offroading trip and forged aluminum wheels are actually stronger than
>>the equivilent steel wheel.
>
>
> I thought bending was an advantage; the allow would break rather than
> bend.
True, but if the forged alum. survives unscathed where steel bends...
I use aluminum because of the reasons Jerry posted, but unfortunately do
not have forged wheels. No problems so far, but I'm not a hardcore rock
crawler either.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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> On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:56:12 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
> <jerrypb@***.net> wrote:
>
>
>>This can't be the hard-core offroader Matt Osborn I know. :)
>>
>>Good quality aluminum wheels don't bend as easily offroad as steel wheels do
>>(personal experience backs that up big time), aluminum is lighter so there
>>is less unsprung weight, aluminum doesn't rust and need painting after every
>>tough offroading trip and forged aluminum wheels are actually stronger than
>>the equivilent steel wheel.
>
>
> I thought bending was an advantage; the allow would break rather than
> bend.
True, but if the forged alum. survives unscathed where steel bends...
I use aluminum because of the reasons Jerry posted, but unfortunately do
not have forged wheels. No problems so far, but I'm not a hardcore rock
crawler either.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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07-31-2004, 10:40 AM
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Re: Steel vs Alloy rims
Matt Osborn wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:56:12 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
> <jerrypb@***.net> wrote:
>
>
>>This can't be the hard-core offroader Matt Osborn I know. :)
>>
>>Good quality aluminum wheels don't bend as easily offroad as steel wheels do
>>(personal experience backs that up big time), aluminum is lighter so there
>>is less unsprung weight, aluminum doesn't rust and need painting after every
>>tough offroading trip and forged aluminum wheels are actually stronger than
>>the equivilent steel wheel.
>
>
> I thought bending was an advantage; the allow would break rather than
> bend.
True, but if the forged alum. survives unscathed where steel bends...
I use aluminum because of the reasons Jerry posted, but unfortunately do
not have forged wheels. No problems so far, but I'm not a hardcore rock
crawler either.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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__________________________________________________ _________
> On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:56:12 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
> <jerrypb@***.net> wrote:
>
>
>>This can't be the hard-core offroader Matt Osborn I know. :)
>>
>>Good quality aluminum wheels don't bend as easily offroad as steel wheels do
>>(personal experience backs that up big time), aluminum is lighter so there
>>is less unsprung weight, aluminum doesn't rust and need painting after every
>>tough offroading trip and forged aluminum wheels are actually stronger than
>>the equivilent steel wheel.
>
>
> I thought bending was an advantage; the allow would break rather than
> bend.
True, but if the forged alum. survives unscathed where steel bends...
I use aluminum because of the reasons Jerry posted, but unfortunately do
not have forged wheels. No problems so far, but I'm not a hardcore rock
crawler either.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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07-31-2004, 10:49 AM
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Re: Steel vs Alloy rims
I dunno, but I would rather have a cheap steel rim I can beat back into
shape with a hammer if need be. When you get into the larger size tires, the
percentage of weight you save with alloy vs steel can't be that great
anyway.
I have 2 sets of tires. Light aluminum wheels on 33x9.5 BFG AT's for steet
use, and cheapie steelies for my Swampers.
IMHO, you can't have one set that does well in both environments, the goals
are mutually exclusive.
Bob in Ma
<Matt Osborn> wrote in message
news:559ng0thihcrbo36ufru82trrnf3o57rnt@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:56:12 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
> <jerrypb@***.net> wrote:
>
> >This can't be the hard-core offroader Matt Osborn I know. :)
> >
> >Good quality aluminum wheels don't bend as easily offroad as steel wheels
do
> >(personal experience backs that up big time), aluminum is lighter so
there
> >is less unsprung weight, aluminum doesn't rust and need painting after
every
> >tough offroading trip and forged aluminum wheels are actually stronger
than
> >the equivilent steel wheel.
>
> I thought bending was an advantage; the allow would break rather than
> bend.
shape with a hammer if need be. When you get into the larger size tires, the
percentage of weight you save with alloy vs steel can't be that great
anyway.
I have 2 sets of tires. Light aluminum wheels on 33x9.5 BFG AT's for steet
use, and cheapie steelies for my Swampers.
IMHO, you can't have one set that does well in both environments, the goals
are mutually exclusive.
Bob in Ma
<Matt Osborn> wrote in message
news:559ng0thihcrbo36ufru82trrnf3o57rnt@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:56:12 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
> <jerrypb@***.net> wrote:
>
> >This can't be the hard-core offroader Matt Osborn I know. :)
> >
> >Good quality aluminum wheels don't bend as easily offroad as steel wheels
do
> >(personal experience backs that up big time), aluminum is lighter so
there
> >is less unsprung weight, aluminum doesn't rust and need painting after
every
> >tough offroading trip and forged aluminum wheels are actually stronger
than
> >the equivilent steel wheel.
>
> I thought bending was an advantage; the allow would break rather than
> bend.
07-31-2004, 10:49 AM
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Re: Steel vs Alloy rims
I dunno, but I would rather have a cheap steel rim I can beat back into
shape with a hammer if need be. When you get into the larger size tires, the
percentage of weight you save with alloy vs steel can't be that great
anyway.
I have 2 sets of tires. Light aluminum wheels on 33x9.5 BFG AT's for steet
use, and cheapie steelies for my Swampers.
IMHO, you can't have one set that does well in both environments, the goals
are mutually exclusive.
Bob in Ma
<Matt Osborn> wrote in message
news:559ng0thihcrbo36ufru82trrnf3o57rnt@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:56:12 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
> <jerrypb@***.net> wrote:
>
> >This can't be the hard-core offroader Matt Osborn I know. :)
> >
> >Good quality aluminum wheels don't bend as easily offroad as steel wheels
do
> >(personal experience backs that up big time), aluminum is lighter so
there
> >is less unsprung weight, aluminum doesn't rust and need painting after
every
> >tough offroading trip and forged aluminum wheels are actually stronger
than
> >the equivilent steel wheel.
>
> I thought bending was an advantage; the allow would break rather than
> bend.
shape with a hammer if need be. When you get into the larger size tires, the
percentage of weight you save with alloy vs steel can't be that great
anyway.
I have 2 sets of tires. Light aluminum wheels on 33x9.5 BFG AT's for steet
use, and cheapie steelies for my Swampers.
IMHO, you can't have one set that does well in both environments, the goals
are mutually exclusive.
Bob in Ma
<Matt Osborn> wrote in message
news:559ng0thihcrbo36ufru82trrnf3o57rnt@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:56:12 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
> <jerrypb@***.net> wrote:
>
> >This can't be the hard-core offroader Matt Osborn I know. :)
> >
> >Good quality aluminum wheels don't bend as easily offroad as steel wheels
do
> >(personal experience backs that up big time), aluminum is lighter so
there
> >is less unsprung weight, aluminum doesn't rust and need painting after
every
> >tough offroading trip and forged aluminum wheels are actually stronger
than
> >the equivilent steel wheel.
>
> I thought bending was an advantage; the allow would break rather than
> bend.
07-31-2004, 10:49 AM
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Re: Steel vs Alloy rims
I dunno, but I would rather have a cheap steel rim I can beat back into
shape with a hammer if need be. When you get into the larger size tires, the
percentage of weight you save with alloy vs steel can't be that great
anyway.
I have 2 sets of tires. Light aluminum wheels on 33x9.5 BFG AT's for steet
use, and cheapie steelies for my Swampers.
IMHO, you can't have one set that does well in both environments, the goals
are mutually exclusive.
Bob in Ma
<Matt Osborn> wrote in message
news:559ng0thihcrbo36ufru82trrnf3o57rnt@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:56:12 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
> <jerrypb@***.net> wrote:
>
> >This can't be the hard-core offroader Matt Osborn I know. :)
> >
> >Good quality aluminum wheels don't bend as easily offroad as steel wheels
do
> >(personal experience backs that up big time), aluminum is lighter so
there
> >is less unsprung weight, aluminum doesn't rust and need painting after
every
> >tough offroading trip and forged aluminum wheels are actually stronger
than
> >the equivilent steel wheel.
>
> I thought bending was an advantage; the allow would break rather than
> bend.
shape with a hammer if need be. When you get into the larger size tires, the
percentage of weight you save with alloy vs steel can't be that great
anyway.
I have 2 sets of tires. Light aluminum wheels on 33x9.5 BFG AT's for steet
use, and cheapie steelies for my Swampers.
IMHO, you can't have one set that does well in both environments, the goals
are mutually exclusive.
Bob in Ma
<Matt Osborn> wrote in message
news:559ng0thihcrbo36ufru82trrnf3o57rnt@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:56:12 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
> <jerrypb@***.net> wrote:
>
> >This can't be the hard-core offroader Matt Osborn I know. :)
> >
> >Good quality aluminum wheels don't bend as easily offroad as steel wheels
do
> >(personal experience backs that up big time), aluminum is lighter so
there
> >is less unsprung weight, aluminum doesn't rust and need painting after
every
> >tough offroading trip and forged aluminum wheels are actually stronger
than
> >the equivilent steel wheel.
>
> I thought bending was an advantage; the allow would break rather than
> bend.