Starting modern jeep question
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Hi Earle,
What I find interesting is the day to night light line runs diagonally
across the U.S.of A. so as to make day time at ten P.M. in Utah, four
hundred miles north east of me dark a eight P.M. Summer months:
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/8...mple0326xf.jpg
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"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
news:n8qdneFruuGJ6pDbnZ2dnUVZ_tPinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> How could they screw up something so simple in principle? Oh yeah, I
> forgot. What do I do now?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Earle
>
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:460d4ddc$0$497$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> > Earl, -7 is MST. We are on MDT, at least in SE Colo., now. The headers
> show
> > that the qwest nntp server is getting your post one hour after you post
> it.
> >
> > There is a gotcha in the Windows DST logic. If you applied the fixes
> while
> > the computer date was prior to the changeover, all went well. If the
> > computer date was AFTER the changeover date when the fix was applied,
the
> > internal switches were never applied because the clock correction only
> > occurs only on two specific cases: date/time rollover ON the changeover
> > date or if the last update to the system clock occurred BEFORE the
> > changeover and the next update is AFTER the changeover. I had problems
> > with all the clocks on the church computers because I didn't run the
> > updates until after the new switch date.
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > > Microsoft distributed an application to allow us to manually edit the
> > > characteristics of the time zone, to "fix" the problems created when
our
> > > government changed the start and end dates. I have set MDT to start
the
> > > second Sunday of March and end the first Sunday of November. We are
in
> > > GMT - 07:00.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:460d41ac$0$6651$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> > >> Your post just showed up at 1:21 and it is still only 1:00 here.
> > >>
> > >> How is your time zone?
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >>
> > >> Earle Horton wrote:
> > >> > My PC is spot on. Maybe there is a bug in the "solution" that
> > >> > Microsoft distributed for the problem of our goverment screwing
with
> > >> > Daylight
> > > Savings
> > >> > Time. It is 10:18 Mountain Daylight Time right now in Albuquerque.
> > >> >
> > >> > Earle
> > >> >
> > >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > >> > news:460d2cc2$0$22671$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> > >> >> Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour
> > > ahead.
> > >> >> Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Mike
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Earle Horton wrote:
> > >> >>> This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based
> > >> >>> charging
> > >> >>> system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old
> > >> >>> enough
> > >> > to
> > >> >>> give the exact year.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Earle
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >> >>> news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
> > >> >>>> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> > >> >>>> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery
in
> > >> >>>> it. Is this true?
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea
> > whonea@yahoo.com
>
>
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What I find interesting is the day to night light line runs diagonally
across the U.S.of A. so as to make day time at ten P.M. in Utah, four
hundred miles north east of me dark a eight P.M. Summer months:
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/8...mple0326xf.jpg
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
news:n8qdneFruuGJ6pDbnZ2dnUVZ_tPinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> How could they screw up something so simple in principle? Oh yeah, I
> forgot. What do I do now?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Earle
>
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:460d4ddc$0$497$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> > Earl, -7 is MST. We are on MDT, at least in SE Colo., now. The headers
> show
> > that the qwest nntp server is getting your post one hour after you post
> it.
> >
> > There is a gotcha in the Windows DST logic. If you applied the fixes
> while
> > the computer date was prior to the changeover, all went well. If the
> > computer date was AFTER the changeover date when the fix was applied,
the
> > internal switches were never applied because the clock correction only
> > occurs only on two specific cases: date/time rollover ON the changeover
> > date or if the last update to the system clock occurred BEFORE the
> > changeover and the next update is AFTER the changeover. I had problems
> > with all the clocks on the church computers because I didn't run the
> > updates until after the new switch date.
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > > Microsoft distributed an application to allow us to manually edit the
> > > characteristics of the time zone, to "fix" the problems created when
our
> > > government changed the start and end dates. I have set MDT to start
the
> > > second Sunday of March and end the first Sunday of November. We are
in
> > > GMT - 07:00.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:460d41ac$0$6651$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> > >> Your post just showed up at 1:21 and it is still only 1:00 here.
> > >>
> > >> How is your time zone?
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >>
> > >> Earle Horton wrote:
> > >> > My PC is spot on. Maybe there is a bug in the "solution" that
> > >> > Microsoft distributed for the problem of our goverment screwing
with
> > >> > Daylight
> > > Savings
> > >> > Time. It is 10:18 Mountain Daylight Time right now in Albuquerque.
> > >> >
> > >> > Earle
> > >> >
> > >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > >> > news:460d2cc2$0$22671$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> > >> >> Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour
> > > ahead.
> > >> >> Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Mike
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Earle Horton wrote:
> > >> >>> This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based
> > >> >>> charging
> > >> >>> system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old
> > >> >>> enough
> > >> > to
> > >> >>> give the exact year.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Earle
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >> >>> news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
> > >> >>>> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> > >> >>>> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery
in
> > >> >>>> it. Is this true?
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea
> > whonea@yahoo.com
>
>
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Yes, but do you remember his W-2? They paid Earle a fortune to leave
Washington.
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> microcrap was just no good at all...
>
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> microcrap was just no good at all...
>
> Mike
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Yes, but do you remember his W-2? They paid Earle a fortune to leave
Washington.
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"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> I recently abandoned ship and went to Linux. Without you there
> microcrap was just no good at all...
>
> Mike
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> I recently abandoned ship and went to Linux. Without you there
> microcrap was just no good at all...
>
> Mike
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Yes, but do you remember his W-2? They paid Earle a fortune to leave
Washington.
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"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> I recently abandoned ship and went to Linux. Without you there
> microcrap was just no good at all...
>
> Mike
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"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> I recently abandoned ship and went to Linux. Without you there
> microcrap was just no good at all...
>
> Mike
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"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > Will,
> >
> > Your post shows up here as having been posted at 10:13 PM, but I think
you
> > actually posted it at 11:13 PM.
> >
> > Heh.
>
> Uh huh. Reading the full headers, my post comes back here with:
> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:13:10 -0600
>
> Yours omes in as:
> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:28:07 -0700
>
> The -0600 is the UTC offset my computer attaches, the -0700 is attached by
> yours uses for your offset. Now, I know Sliverton is in a world of it's
> own but we should at least be in the same time zone! Or has one of us
been
> listening to Coast-to-Coast radio too long? (Dang, I miss Art Bell on
these
> late nights!)
>
I think this fixes it. So you think this is going to stay fixed?
Search www.durangoherald.com for Silverton. Or look at this link.
http://www.durangoherald.com/asp-bin...ws070315_2.htm
Saludos,
Earle
news:460e010a$0$495$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > Will,
> >
> > Your post shows up here as having been posted at 10:13 PM, but I think
you
> > actually posted it at 11:13 PM.
> >
> > Heh.
>
> Uh huh. Reading the full headers, my post comes back here with:
> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:13:10 -0600
>
> Yours omes in as:
> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:28:07 -0700
>
> The -0600 is the UTC offset my computer attaches, the -0700 is attached by
> yours uses for your offset. Now, I know Sliverton is in a world of it's
> own but we should at least be in the same time zone! Or has one of us
been
> listening to Coast-to-Coast radio too long? (Dang, I miss Art Bell on
these
> late nights!)
>
I think this fixes it. So you think this is going to stay fixed?
Search www.durangoherald.com for Silverton. Or look at this link.
http://www.durangoherald.com/asp-bin...ws070315_2.htm
Saludos,
Earle
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"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > Will,
> >
> > Your post shows up here as having been posted at 10:13 PM, but I think
you
> > actually posted it at 11:13 PM.
> >
> > Heh.
>
> Uh huh. Reading the full headers, my post comes back here with:
> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:13:10 -0600
>
> Yours omes in as:
> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:28:07 -0700
>
> The -0600 is the UTC offset my computer attaches, the -0700 is attached by
> yours uses for your offset. Now, I know Sliverton is in a world of it's
> own but we should at least be in the same time zone! Or has one of us
been
> listening to Coast-to-Coast radio too long? (Dang, I miss Art Bell on
these
> late nights!)
>
I think this fixes it. So you think this is going to stay fixed?
Search www.durangoherald.com for Silverton. Or look at this link.
http://www.durangoherald.com/asp-bin...ws070315_2.htm
Saludos,
Earle
news:460e010a$0$495$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > Will,
> >
> > Your post shows up here as having been posted at 10:13 PM, but I think
you
> > actually posted it at 11:13 PM.
> >
> > Heh.
>
> Uh huh. Reading the full headers, my post comes back here with:
> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:13:10 -0600
>
> Yours omes in as:
> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:28:07 -0700
>
> The -0600 is the UTC offset my computer attaches, the -0700 is attached by
> yours uses for your offset. Now, I know Sliverton is in a world of it's
> own but we should at least be in the same time zone! Or has one of us
been
> listening to Coast-to-Coast radio too long? (Dang, I miss Art Bell on
these
> late nights!)
>
I think this fixes it. So you think this is going to stay fixed?
Search www.durangoherald.com for Silverton. Or look at this link.
http://www.durangoherald.com/asp-bin...ws070315_2.htm
Saludos,
Earle
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Re: Starting modern jeep question
"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > Will,
> >
> > Your post shows up here as having been posted at 10:13 PM, but I think
you
> > actually posted it at 11:13 PM.
> >
> > Heh.
>
> Uh huh. Reading the full headers, my post comes back here with:
> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:13:10 -0600
>
> Yours omes in as:
> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:28:07 -0700
>
> The -0600 is the UTC offset my computer attaches, the -0700 is attached by
> yours uses for your offset. Now, I know Sliverton is in a world of it's
> own but we should at least be in the same time zone! Or has one of us
been
> listening to Coast-to-Coast radio too long? (Dang, I miss Art Bell on
these
> late nights!)
>
I think this fixes it. So you think this is going to stay fixed?
Search www.durangoherald.com for Silverton. Or look at this link.
http://www.durangoherald.com/asp-bin...ws070315_2.htm
Saludos,
Earle
news:460e010a$0$495$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > Will,
> >
> > Your post shows up here as having been posted at 10:13 PM, but I think
you
> > actually posted it at 11:13 PM.
> >
> > Heh.
>
> Uh huh. Reading the full headers, my post comes back here with:
> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:13:10 -0600
>
> Yours omes in as:
> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:28:07 -0700
>
> The -0600 is the UTC offset my computer attaches, the -0700 is attached by
> yours uses for your offset. Now, I know Sliverton is in a world of it's
> own but we should at least be in the same time zone! Or has one of us
been
> listening to Coast-to-Coast radio too long? (Dang, I miss Art Bell on
these
> late nights!)
>
I think this fixes it. So you think this is going to stay fixed?
Search www.durangoherald.com for Silverton. Or look at this link.
http://www.durangoherald.com/asp-bin...ws070315_2.htm
Saludos,
Earle
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Re: Starting modern jeep question
Earle Horton wrote:
> I think this fixes it. So you think this is going to stay fixed?
>
> Search www.durangoherald.com for Silverton. Or look at this link.
Header: Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:20:44 -0600
Got the timezone right - now if you would just set your clock <g>...
Earle, I don't know how all the pieces in Winxx work, but all the library
routines I use for localtime() rely on an environment variable
called %TIMEZONE% or %TZ%, depending on which OS I'm compiling for. What
that essentially means is that the settings are not propogated until after
a reboot since the timezone setting is a global environment variable whih
means that it is read in on boot and never changes until a reboot. That's
why hanging a timezone setting results in a change in the display only -
the PC clock is never altered - period. There is a setting in Windows -
been there sine 3.51, that activates a network sync for the hardware clock
to a remote time standard like NIST Boulder. That's the only way I can
keep all my machines synced.
--
Will Honea
whonea@yahoo.com
> I think this fixes it. So you think this is going to stay fixed?
>
> Search www.durangoherald.com for Silverton. Or look at this link.
Header: Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:20:44 -0600
Got the timezone right - now if you would just set your clock <g>...
Earle, I don't know how all the pieces in Winxx work, but all the library
routines I use for localtime() rely on an environment variable
called %TIMEZONE% or %TZ%, depending on which OS I'm compiling for. What
that essentially means is that the settings are not propogated until after
a reboot since the timezone setting is a global environment variable whih
means that it is read in on boot and never changes until a reboot. That's
why hanging a timezone setting results in a change in the display only -
the PC clock is never altered - period. There is a setting in Windows -
been there sine 3.51, that activates a network sync for the hardware clock
to a remote time standard like NIST Boulder. That's the only way I can
keep all my machines synced.
--
Will Honea
whonea@yahoo.com
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Re: Starting modern jeep question
Earle Horton wrote:
> I think this fixes it. So you think this is going to stay fixed?
>
> Search www.durangoherald.com for Silverton. Or look at this link.
Header: Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:20:44 -0600
Got the timezone right - now if you would just set your clock <g>...
Earle, I don't know how all the pieces in Winxx work, but all the library
routines I use for localtime() rely on an environment variable
called %TIMEZONE% or %TZ%, depending on which OS I'm compiling for. What
that essentially means is that the settings are not propogated until after
a reboot since the timezone setting is a global environment variable whih
means that it is read in on boot and never changes until a reboot. That's
why hanging a timezone setting results in a change in the display only -
the PC clock is never altered - period. There is a setting in Windows -
been there sine 3.51, that activates a network sync for the hardware clock
to a remote time standard like NIST Boulder. That's the only way I can
keep all my machines synced.
--
Will Honea
whonea@yahoo.com
> I think this fixes it. So you think this is going to stay fixed?
>
> Search www.durangoherald.com for Silverton. Or look at this link.
Header: Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:20:44 -0600
Got the timezone right - now if you would just set your clock <g>...
Earle, I don't know how all the pieces in Winxx work, but all the library
routines I use for localtime() rely on an environment variable
called %TIMEZONE% or %TZ%, depending on which OS I'm compiling for. What
that essentially means is that the settings are not propogated until after
a reboot since the timezone setting is a global environment variable whih
means that it is read in on boot and never changes until a reboot. That's
why hanging a timezone setting results in a change in the display only -
the PC clock is never altered - period. There is a setting in Windows -
been there sine 3.51, that activates a network sync for the hardware clock
to a remote time standard like NIST Boulder. That's the only way I can
keep all my machines synced.
--
Will Honea
whonea@yahoo.com
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Re: Starting modern jeep question
Earle Horton wrote:
> I think this fixes it. So you think this is going to stay fixed?
>
> Search www.durangoherald.com for Silverton. Or look at this link.
Header: Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:20:44 -0600
Got the timezone right - now if you would just set your clock <g>...
Earle, I don't know how all the pieces in Winxx work, but all the library
routines I use for localtime() rely on an environment variable
called %TIMEZONE% or %TZ%, depending on which OS I'm compiling for. What
that essentially means is that the settings are not propogated until after
a reboot since the timezone setting is a global environment variable whih
means that it is read in on boot and never changes until a reboot. That's
why hanging a timezone setting results in a change in the display only -
the PC clock is never altered - period. There is a setting in Windows -
been there sine 3.51, that activates a network sync for the hardware clock
to a remote time standard like NIST Boulder. That's the only way I can
keep all my machines synced.
--
Will Honea
whonea@yahoo.com
> I think this fixes it. So you think this is going to stay fixed?
>
> Search www.durangoherald.com for Silverton. Or look at this link.
Header: Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:20:44 -0600
Got the timezone right - now if you would just set your clock <g>...
Earle, I don't know how all the pieces in Winxx work, but all the library
routines I use for localtime() rely on an environment variable
called %TIMEZONE% or %TZ%, depending on which OS I'm compiling for. What
that essentially means is that the settings are not propogated until after
a reboot since the timezone setting is a global environment variable whih
means that it is read in on boot and never changes until a reboot. That's
why hanging a timezone setting results in a change in the display only -
the PC clock is never altered - period. There is a setting in Windows -
been there sine 3.51, that activates a network sync for the hardware clock
to a remote time standard like NIST Boulder. That's the only way I can
keep all my machines synced.
--
Will Honea
whonea@yahoo.com
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