Yep, you are correct sir.

--
HarryS My 2¢
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42626153.6200F012@sympatico.ca...
|I thought you could just stick a fuse into the 'auto' tranny slot in the
| fuse panel on a TJ and away you go with a bypassed clutch switch?
|
| Mike
| 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
| 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
|
| JD Adams wrote:
| >
| > Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
| >
| > I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the
clutch
| > pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank
bearings and
| > journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all.
Some of
| > us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very
much!
| >
| > Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small
piece of
| > wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
| > cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether.
I
| > can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
| >
| > Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse
in the
| > block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly,
I'd
| > just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter
of
| > principle.
| >
| > Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
| > Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety
enhancement
| > crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit
their
| > civil liability.
| >
| > -JD

 

On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 06:33:02 -0400, the following appeared
in rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by "HarryS"
<NoSpam@nospam.net>:

For motorcycles the coming thing is the sidestand interlock.
I guess enough riders did the sideways skate on the first
left turn after forgetting to put the sidestand up to get
the attention of the safetycrats.

>I am surprised they haven't done it motorcycles yet, I can't remember when
>they first started doing it to autos but the clutch safety switch is usually
>my first modification. Where the is a will there is a way and it is usually
>for the better.

--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

 

On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 06:33:02 -0400, the following appeared
in rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by "HarryS"
<NoSpam@nospam.net>:

For motorcycles the coming thing is the sidestand interlock.
I guess enough riders did the sideways skate on the first
left turn after forgetting to put the sidestand up to get
the attention of the safetycrats.

>I am surprised they haven't done it motorcycles yet, I can't remember when
>they first started doing it to autos but the clutch safety switch is usually
>my first modification. Where the is a will there is a way and it is usually
>for the better.

--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

 

On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 06:33:02 -0400, the following appeared
in rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by "HarryS"
<NoSpam@nospam.net>:

For motorcycles the coming thing is the sidestand interlock.
I guess enough riders did the sideways skate on the first
left turn after forgetting to put the sidestand up to get
the attention of the safetycrats.

>I am surprised they haven't done it motorcycles yet, I can't remember when
>they first started doing it to autos but the clutch safety switch is usually
>my first modification. Where the is a will there is a way and it is usually
>for the better.

--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

 

On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 06:33:02 -0400, the following appeared
in rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by "HarryS"
<NoSpam@nospam.net>:

For motorcycles the coming thing is the sidestand interlock.
I guess enough riders did the sideways skate on the first
left turn after forgetting to put the sidestand up to get
the attention of the safetycrats.

>I am surprised they haven't done it motorcycles yet, I can't remember when
>they first started doing it to autos but the clutch safety switch is usually
>my first modification. Where the is a will there is a way and it is usually
>for the better.

--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

 

Nash used the clutch pedal to engage the starter, and release the
brake.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

HarryS wrote:
>
> I am surprised they haven't done it motorcycles yet, I can't remember when
> they first started doing it to autos but the clutch safety switch is usually
> my first modification. Where the is a will there is a way and it is usually
> for the better.
>
> --
> HarryS My 2¢
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4261D35C.496A424F@***.net...
> | I have seen many times the wear the thrust main burns into the
> | crank, via people that rest the foot on the clutch pedal. I sounds like
> | you have the problem whipped good enough for yourself, though.
> | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> |
> | JD Adams wrote:
> | >
> | > Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
> | >
> | > I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the
> clutch
> | > pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank
> bearings and
> | > journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all.
> Some of
> | > us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very
> much!
> | >
> | > Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small
> piece of
> | > wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
> | > cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether.
> I
> | > can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
> | >
> | > Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse
> in the
> | > block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly,
> I'd
> | > just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter
> of
> | > principle.
> | >
> | > Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
> | > Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety
> enhancement
> | > crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit
> their
> | > civil liability.
> | >
> | > -JD

 

Nash used the clutch pedal to engage the starter, and release the
brake.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

HarryS wrote:
>
> I am surprised they haven't done it motorcycles yet, I can't remember when
> they first started doing it to autos but the clutch safety switch is usually
> my first modification. Where the is a will there is a way and it is usually
> for the better.
>
> --
> HarryS My 2¢
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4261D35C.496A424F@***.net...
> | I have seen many times the wear the thrust main burns into the
> | crank, via people that rest the foot on the clutch pedal. I sounds like
> | you have the problem whipped good enough for yourself, though.
> | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> |
> | JD Adams wrote:
> | >
> | > Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
> | >
> | > I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the
> clutch
> | > pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank
> bearings and
> | > journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all.
> Some of
> | > us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very
> much!
> | >
> | > Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small
> piece of
> | > wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
> | > cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether.
> I
> | > can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
> | >
> | > Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse
> in the
> | > block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly,
> I'd
> | > just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter
> of
> | > principle.
> | >
> | > Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
> | > Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety
> enhancement
> | > crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit
> their
> | > civil liability.
> | >
> | > -JD

 

Nash used the clutch pedal to engage the starter, and release the
brake.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

HarryS wrote:
>
> I am surprised they haven't done it motorcycles yet, I can't remember when
> they first started doing it to autos but the clutch safety switch is usually
> my first modification. Where the is a will there is a way and it is usually
> for the better.
>
> --
> HarryS My 2¢
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4261D35C.496A424F@***.net...
> | I have seen many times the wear the thrust main burns into the
> | crank, via people that rest the foot on the clutch pedal. I sounds like
> | you have the problem whipped good enough for yourself, though.
> | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> |
> | JD Adams wrote:
> | >
> | > Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
> | >
> | > I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the
> clutch
> | > pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank
> bearings and
> | > journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all.
> Some of
> | > us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very
> much!
> | >
> | > Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small
> piece of
> | > wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
> | > cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether.
> I
> | > can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
> | >
> | > Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse
> in the
> | > block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly,
> I'd
> | > just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter
> of
> | > principle.
> | >
> | > Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
> | > Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety
> enhancement
> | > crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit
> their
> | > civil liability.
> | >
> | > -JD

 

Nash used the clutch pedal to engage the starter, and release the
brake.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

HarryS wrote:
>
> I am surprised they haven't done it motorcycles yet, I can't remember when
> they first started doing it to autos but the clutch safety switch is usually
> my first modification. Where the is a will there is a way and it is usually
> for the better.
>
> --
> HarryS My 2¢
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4261D35C.496A424F@***.net...
> | I have seen many times the wear the thrust main burns into the
> | crank, via people that rest the foot on the clutch pedal. I sounds like
> | you have the problem whipped good enough for yourself, though.
> | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> |
> | JD Adams wrote:
> | >
> | > Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
> | >
> | > I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the
> clutch
> | > pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank
> bearings and
> | > journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all.
> Some of
> | > us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very
> much!
> | >
> | > Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small
> piece of
> | > wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
> | > cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether.
> I
> | > can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
> | >
> | > Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse
> in the
> | > block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly,
> I'd
> | > just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter
> of
> | > principle.
> | >
> | > Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
> | > Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety
> enhancement
> | > crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit
> their
> | > civil liability.
> | >
> | > -JD

 

On the '05's you can still do this, however the '4WD' lamp on the dash stays
lit as a result. I'll probably spend next Saturday underneath the dash
figuring out how to rip the whole thing out by the wires. I figure if you're
smart enough to defeat such a device, you're probably good to go without it.

-JD


Mike Romain wrote:
> I thought you could just stick a fuse into the 'auto' tranny slot in the
> fuse panel on a TJ and away you go with a bypassed clutch switch?