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JD Adams 04-16-2005 10:45 PM

Starter interlock question
 
Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.

I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the clutch
pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank bearings and
journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all. Some of
us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very much!

Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small piece of
wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether. I
can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.

Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse in the
block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly, I'd
just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter of
principle.

Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety enhancement
crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit their
civil liability.

-JD

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-16-2005 11:09 PM

Re: Starter interlock question
 
I have seen many times the wear the thrust main burns into the
crank, via people that rest the foot on the clutch pedal. I sounds like
you have the problem whipped good enough for yourself, though.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

JD Adams wrote:
>
> Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
>
> I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the clutch
> pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank bearings and
> journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all. Some of
> us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very much!
>
> Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small piece of
> wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
> cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether. I
> can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
>
> Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse in the
> block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly, I'd
> just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter of
> principle.
>
> Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
> Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety enhancement
> crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit their
> civil liability.
>
> -JD


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-16-2005 11:09 PM

Re: Starter interlock question
 
I have seen many times the wear the thrust main burns into the
crank, via people that rest the foot on the clutch pedal. I sounds like
you have the problem whipped good enough for yourself, though.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

JD Adams wrote:
>
> Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
>
> I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the clutch
> pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank bearings and
> journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all. Some of
> us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very much!
>
> Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small piece of
> wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
> cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether. I
> can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
>
> Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse in the
> block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly, I'd
> just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter of
> principle.
>
> Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
> Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety enhancement
> crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit their
> civil liability.
>
> -JD


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-16-2005 11:09 PM

Re: Starter interlock question
 
I have seen many times the wear the thrust main burns into the
crank, via people that rest the foot on the clutch pedal. I sounds like
you have the problem whipped good enough for yourself, though.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

JD Adams wrote:
>
> Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
>
> I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the clutch
> pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank bearings and
> journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all. Some of
> us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very much!
>
> Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small piece of
> wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
> cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether. I
> can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
>
> Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse in the
> block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly, I'd
> just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter of
> principle.
>
> Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
> Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety enhancement
> crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit their
> civil liability.
>
> -JD


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-16-2005 11:09 PM

Re: Starter interlock question
 
I have seen many times the wear the thrust main burns into the
crank, via people that rest the foot on the clutch pedal. I sounds like
you have the problem whipped good enough for yourself, though.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

JD Adams wrote:
>
> Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
>
> I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the clutch
> pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank bearings and
> journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all. Some of
> us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very much!
>
> Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small piece of
> wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
> cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether. I
> can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
>
> Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse in the
> block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly, I'd
> just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter of
> principle.
>
> Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
> Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety enhancement
> crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit their
> civil liability.
>
> -JD


HarryS 04-17-2005 06:33 AM

Re: Starter interlock question
 
I am surprised they haven't done it motorcycles yet, I can't remember when
they first started doing it to autos but the clutch safety switch is usually
my first modification. Where the is a will there is a way and it is usually
for the better.

--
HarryS My 2¢
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4261D35C.496A424F@cox.net...
| I have seen many times the wear the thrust main burns into the
| crank, via people that rest the foot on the clutch pedal. I sounds like
| you have the problem whipped good enough for yourself, though.
| God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
|
| JD Adams wrote:
| >
| > Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
| >
| > I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the
clutch
| > pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank
bearings and
| > journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all.
Some of
| > us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very
much!
| >
| > Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small
piece of
| > wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
| > cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether.
I
| > can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
| >
| > Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse
in the
| > block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly,
I'd
| > just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter
of
| > principle.
| >
| > Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
| > Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety
enhancement
| > crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit
their
| > civil liability.
| >
| > -JD



HarryS 04-17-2005 06:33 AM

Re: Starter interlock question
 
I am surprised they haven't done it motorcycles yet, I can't remember when
they first started doing it to autos but the clutch safety switch is usually
my first modification. Where the is a will there is a way and it is usually
for the better.

--
HarryS My 2¢
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4261D35C.496A424F@cox.net...
| I have seen many times the wear the thrust main burns into the
| crank, via people that rest the foot on the clutch pedal. I sounds like
| you have the problem whipped good enough for yourself, though.
| God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
|
| JD Adams wrote:
| >
| > Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
| >
| > I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the
clutch
| > pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank
bearings and
| > journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all.
Some of
| > us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very
much!
| >
| > Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small
piece of
| > wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
| > cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether.
I
| > can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
| >
| > Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse
in the
| > block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly,
I'd
| > just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter
of
| > principle.
| >
| > Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
| > Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety
enhancement
| > crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit
their
| > civil liability.
| >
| > -JD



HarryS 04-17-2005 06:33 AM

Re: Starter interlock question
 
I am surprised they haven't done it motorcycles yet, I can't remember when
they first started doing it to autos but the clutch safety switch is usually
my first modification. Where the is a will there is a way and it is usually
for the better.

--
HarryS My 2¢
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4261D35C.496A424F@cox.net...
| I have seen many times the wear the thrust main burns into the
| crank, via people that rest the foot on the clutch pedal. I sounds like
| you have the problem whipped good enough for yourself, though.
| God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
|
| JD Adams wrote:
| >
| > Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
| >
| > I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the
clutch
| > pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank
bearings and
| > journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all.
Some of
| > us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very
much!
| >
| > Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small
piece of
| > wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
| > cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether.
I
| > can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
| >
| > Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse
in the
| > block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly,
I'd
| > just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter
of
| > principle.
| >
| > Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
| > Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety
enhancement
| > crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit
their
| > civil liability.
| >
| > -JD



HarryS 04-17-2005 06:33 AM

Re: Starter interlock question
 
I am surprised they haven't done it motorcycles yet, I can't remember when
they first started doing it to autos but the clutch safety switch is usually
my first modification. Where the is a will there is a way and it is usually
for the better.

--
HarryS My 2¢
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4261D35C.496A424F@cox.net...
| I have seen many times the wear the thrust main burns into the
| crank, via people that rest the foot on the clutch pedal. I sounds like
| you have the problem whipped good enough for yourself, though.
| God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
|
| JD Adams wrote:
| >
| > Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
| >
| > I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the
clutch
| > pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank
bearings and
| > journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all.
Some of
| > us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very
much!
| >
| > Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small
piece of
| > wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
| > cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether.
I
| > can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
| >
| > Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse
in the
| > block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly,
I'd
| > just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter
of
| > principle.
| >
| > Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
| > Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety
enhancement
| > crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit
their
| > civil liability.
| >
| > -JD



Mike Romain 04-17-2005 09:14 AM

Re: Starter interlock question
 
I thought you could just stick a fuse into the 'auto' tranny slot in the
fuse panel on a TJ and away you go with a bypassed clutch switch?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

JD Adams wrote:
>
> Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
>
> I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the clutch
> pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank bearings and
> journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all. Some of
> us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very much!
>
> Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small piece of
> wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
> cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether. I
> can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
>
> Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse in the
> block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly, I'd
> just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter of
> principle.
>
> Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
> Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety enhancement
> crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit their
> civil liability.
>
> -JD



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