Starter interlock question
 

Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.

I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the clutch
pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank bearings and
journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all. Some of
us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very much!

Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small piece of
wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether. I
can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.

Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse in the
block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly, I'd
just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter of
principle.

Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety enhancement
crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit their
civil liability.

-JD

Re: Starter interlock question
 

I have seen many times the wear the thrust main burns into the
crank, via people that rest the foot on the clutch pedal. I sounds like
you have the problem whipped good enough for yourself, though.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

JD Adams wrote:
>
> Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
>
> I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the clutch
> pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank bearings and
> journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all. Some of
> us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very much!
>
> Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small piece of
> wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
> cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether. I
> can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
>
> Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse in the
> block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly, I'd
> just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter of
> principle.
>
> Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
> Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety enhancement
> crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit their
> civil liability.
>
> -JD

Re: Starter interlock question
 

I have seen many times the wear the thrust main burns into the
crank, via people that rest the foot on the clutch pedal. I sounds like
you have the problem whipped good enough for yourself, though.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

JD Adams wrote:
>
> Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
>
> I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the clutch
> pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank bearings and
> journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all. Some of
> us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very much!
>
> Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small piece of
> wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
> cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether. I
> can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
>
> Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse in the
> block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly, I'd
> just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter of
> principle.
>
> Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
> Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety enhancement
> crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit their
> civil liability.
>
> -JD

Re: Starter interlock question
 

I have seen many times the wear the thrust main burns into the
crank, via people that rest the foot on the clutch pedal. I sounds like
you have the problem whipped good enough for yourself, though.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

JD Adams wrote:
>
> Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
>
> I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the clutch
> pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank bearings and
> journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all. Some of
> us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very much!
>
> Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small piece of
> wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
> cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether. I
> can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
>
> Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse in the
> block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly, I'd
> just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter of
> principle.
>
> Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
> Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety enhancement
> crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit their
> civil liability.
>
> -JD

Re: Starter interlock question
 

I have seen many times the wear the thrust main burns into the
crank, via people that rest the foot on the clutch pedal. I sounds like
you have the problem whipped good enough for yourself, though.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

JD Adams wrote:
>
> Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
>
> I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the clutch
> pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank bearings and
> journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all. Some of
> us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very much!
>
> Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small piece of
> wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
> cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether. I
> can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
>
> Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse in the
> block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly, I'd
> just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter of
> principle.
>
> Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
> Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety enhancement
> crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit their
> civil liability.
>
> -JD

Re: Starter interlock question
 

I am surprised they haven't done it motorcycles yet, I can't remember when
they first started doing it to autos but the clutch safety switch is usually
my first modification. Where the is a will there is a way and it is usually
for the better.

--
HarryS My 2¢
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4261D35C.496A424F@cox.net...
| I have seen many times the wear the thrust main burns into the
| crank, via people that rest the foot on the clutch pedal. I sounds like
| you have the problem whipped good enough for yourself, though.
| God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
|
| JD Adams wrote:
| >
| > Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
| >
| > I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the
clutch
| > pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank
bearings and
| > journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all.
Some of
| > us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very
much!
| >
| > Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small
piece of
| > wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
| > cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether.
I
| > can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
| >
| > Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse
in the
| > block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly,
I'd
| > just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter
of
| > principle.
| >
| > Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
| > Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety
enhancement
| > crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit
their
| > civil liability.
| >
| > -JD

Re: Starter interlock question
 

I am surprised they haven't done it motorcycles yet, I can't remember when
they first started doing it to autos but the clutch safety switch is usually
my first modification. Where the is a will there is a way and it is usually
for the better.

--
HarryS My 2¢
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4261D35C.496A424F@cox.net...
| I have seen many times the wear the thrust main burns into the
| crank, via people that rest the foot on the clutch pedal. I sounds like
| you have the problem whipped good enough for yourself, though.
| God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
|
| JD Adams wrote:
| >
| > Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
| >
| > I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the
clutch
| > pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank
bearings and
| > journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all.
Some of
| > us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very
much!
| >
| > Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small
piece of
| > wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
| > cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether.
I
| > can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
| >
| > Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse
in the
| > block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly,
I'd
| > just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter
of
| > principle.
| >
| > Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
| > Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety
enhancement
| > crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit
their
| > civil liability.
| >
| > -JD

Re: Starter interlock question
 

I am surprised they haven't done it motorcycles yet, I can't remember when
they first started doing it to autos but the clutch safety switch is usually
my first modification. Where the is a will there is a way and it is usually
for the better.

--
HarryS My 2¢
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4261D35C.496A424F@cox.net...
| I have seen many times the wear the thrust main burns into the
| crank, via people that rest the foot on the clutch pedal. I sounds like
| you have the problem whipped good enough for yourself, though.
| God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
|
| JD Adams wrote:
| >
| > Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
| >
| > I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the
clutch
| > pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank
bearings and
| > journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all.
Some of
| > us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very
much!
| >
| > Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small
piece of
| > wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
| > cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether.
I
| > can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
| >
| > Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse
in the
| > block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly,
I'd
| > just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter
of
| > principle.
| >
| > Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
| > Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety
enhancement
| > crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit
their
| > civil liability.
| >
| > -JD

Re: Starter interlock question
 

I am surprised they haven't done it motorcycles yet, I can't remember when
they first started doing it to autos but the clutch safety switch is usually
my first modification. Where the is a will there is a way and it is usually
for the better.

--
HarryS My 2¢
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4261D35C.496A424F@cox.net...
| I have seen many times the wear the thrust main burns into the
| crank, via people that rest the foot on the clutch pedal. I sounds like
| you have the problem whipped good enough for yourself, though.
| God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
|
| JD Adams wrote:
| >
| > Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
| >
| > I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the
clutch
| > pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank
bearings and
| > journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all.
Some of
| > us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very
much!
| >
| > Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small
piece of
| > wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
| > cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether.
I
| > can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
| >
| > Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse
in the
| > block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly,
I'd
| > just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter
of
| > principle.
| >
| > Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
| > Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety
enhancement
| > crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit
their
| > civil liability.
| >
| > -JD

Re: Starter interlock question
 

I thought you could just stick a fuse into the 'auto' tranny slot in the
fuse panel on a TJ and away you go with a bypassed clutch switch?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

JD Adams wrote:
>
> Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
>
> I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the clutch
> pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank bearings and
> journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all. Some of
> us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very much!
>
> Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small piece of
> wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
> cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether. I
> can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
>
> Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse in the
> block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly, I'd
> just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter of
> principle.
>
> Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
> Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety enhancement
> crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit their
> civil liability.
>
> -JD

Re: Starter interlock question
 

I thought you could just stick a fuse into the 'auto' tranny slot in the
fuse panel on a TJ and away you go with a bypassed clutch switch?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

JD Adams wrote:
>
> Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
>
> I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the clutch
> pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank bearings and
> journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all. Some of
> us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very much!
>
> Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small piece of
> wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
> cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether. I
> can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
>
> Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse in the
> block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly, I'd
> just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter of
> principle.
>
> Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
> Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety enhancement
> crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit their
> civil liability.
>
> -JD

Re: Starter interlock question
 

I thought you could just stick a fuse into the 'auto' tranny slot in the
fuse panel on a TJ and away you go with a bypassed clutch switch?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

JD Adams wrote:
>
> Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
>
> I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the clutch
> pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank bearings and
> journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all. Some of
> us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very much!
>
> Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small piece of
> wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
> cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether. I
> can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
>
> Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse in the
> block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly, I'd
> just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter of
> principle.
>
> Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
> Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety enhancement
> crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit their
> civil liability.
>
> -JD

Re: Starter interlock question
 

I thought you could just stick a fuse into the 'auto' tranny slot in the
fuse panel on a TJ and away you go with a bypassed clutch switch?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

JD Adams wrote:
>
> Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
>
> I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the clutch
> pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank bearings and
> journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all. Some of
> us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very much!
>
> Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small piece of
> wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
> cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether. I
> can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
>
> Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse in the
> block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly, I'd
> just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter of
> principle.
>
> Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
> Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety enhancement
> crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit their
> civil liability.
>
> -JD

Re: Starter interlock question
 

JD good to see you are still alive! Do you still have your 'stang?

Carl


"JD Adams" <withheld@my.request> wrote in message
news:x6GdnQdDZ_peUPzfRVn-ug@softcom.net...
> Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
>
> I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the
clutch
> pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank bearings
and
> journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all.
Some of
> us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very
much!
>
> Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small piece
of
> wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
> cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether.
I
> can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
>
> Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse in
the
> block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly, I'd
> just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter of
> principle.
>
> Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
> Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety
enhancement
> crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit
their
> civil liability.
>
> -JD

Re: Starter interlock question
 

JD good to see you are still alive! Do you still have your 'stang?

Carl


"JD Adams" <withheld@my.request> wrote in message
news:x6GdnQdDZ_peUPzfRVn-ug@softcom.net...
> Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
>
> I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the
clutch
> pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank bearings
and
> journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all.
Some of
> us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very
much!
>
> Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small piece
of
> wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
> cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether.
I
> can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
>
> Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse in
the
> block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly, I'd
> just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter of
> principle.
>
> Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
> Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety
enhancement
> crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit
their
> civil liability.
>
> -JD

Re: Starter interlock question
 

JD good to see you are still alive! Do you still have your 'stang?

Carl


"JD Adams" <withheld@my.request> wrote in message
news:x6GdnQdDZ_peUPzfRVn-ug@softcom.net...
> Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
>
> I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the
clutch
> pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank bearings
and
> journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all.
Some of
> us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very
much!
>
> Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small piece
of
> wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
> cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether.
I
> can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
>
> Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse in
the
> block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly, I'd
> just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter of
> principle.
>
> Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
> Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety
enhancement
> crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit
their
> civil liability.
>
> -JD

Re: Starter interlock question
 

JD good to see you are still alive! Do you still have your 'stang?

Carl


"JD Adams" <withheld@my.request> wrote in message
news:x6GdnQdDZ_peUPzfRVn-ug@softcom.net...
> Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
>
> I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the
clutch
> pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank bearings
and
> journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all.
Some of
> us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very
much!
>
> Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small piece
of
> wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
> cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether.
I
> can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
>
> Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse in
the
> block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly, I'd
> just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter of
> principle.
>
> Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
> Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety
enhancement
> crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit
their
> civil liability.
>
> -JD

Re: Starter interlock question
 

Yep, you are correct sir.

--
HarryS My 2¢
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42626153.6200F012@sympatico.ca...
|I thought you could just stick a fuse into the 'auto' tranny slot in the
| fuse panel on a TJ and away you go with a bypassed clutch switch?
|
| Mike
| 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
| 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
|
| JD Adams wrote:
| >
| > Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
| >
| > I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the
clutch
| > pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank
bearings and
| > journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all.
Some of
| > us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very
much!
| >
| > Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small
piece of
| > wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
| > cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether.
I
| > can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
| >
| > Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse
in the
| > block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly,
I'd
| > just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter
of
| > principle.
| >
| > Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
| > Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety
enhancement
| > crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit
their
| > civil liability.
| >
| > -JD

Re: Starter interlock question
 

Yep, you are correct sir.

--
HarryS My 2¢
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42626153.6200F012@sympatico.ca...
|I thought you could just stick a fuse into the 'auto' tranny slot in the
| fuse panel on a TJ and away you go with a bypassed clutch switch?
|
| Mike
| 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
| 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
|
| JD Adams wrote:
| >
| > Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
| >
| > I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the
clutch
| > pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank
bearings and
| > journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all.
Some of
| > us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very
much!
| >
| > Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small
piece of
| > wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
| > cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether.
I
| > can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
| >
| > Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse
in the
| > block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly,
I'd
| > just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter
of
| > principle.
| >
| > Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
| > Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety
enhancement
| > crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit
their
| > civil liability.
| >
| > -JD

Re: Starter interlock question
 

Yep, you are correct sir.

--
HarryS My 2¢
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42626153.6200F012@sympatico.ca...
|I thought you could just stick a fuse into the 'auto' tranny slot in the
| fuse panel on a TJ and away you go with a bypassed clutch switch?
|
| Mike
| 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
| 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
|
| JD Adams wrote:
| >
| > Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
| >
| > I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the
clutch
| > pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank
bearings and
| > journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all.
Some of
| > us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very
much!
| >
| > Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small
piece of
| > wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
| > cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether.
I
| > can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
| >
| > Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse
in the
| > block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly,
I'd
| > just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter
of
| > principle.
| >
| > Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
| > Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety
enhancement
| > crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit
their
| > civil liability.
| >
| > -JD

Re: Starter interlock question
 

Yep, you are correct sir.

--
HarryS My 2¢
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42626153.6200F012@sympatico.ca...
|I thought you could just stick a fuse into the 'auto' tranny slot in the
| fuse panel on a TJ and away you go with a bypassed clutch switch?
|
| Mike
| 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
| 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
|
| JD Adams wrote:
| >
| > Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
| >
| > I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the
clutch
| > pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank
bearings and
| > journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all.
Some of
| > us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very
much!
| >
| > Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small
piece of
| > wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
| > cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether.
I
| > can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
| >
| > Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse
in the
| > block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly,
I'd
| > just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter
of
| > principle.
| >
| > Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
| > Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety
enhancement
| > crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit
their
| > civil liability.
| >
| > -JD

Re: Starter interlock question
 

On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 06:33:02 -0400, the following appeared
in rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by "HarryS"
<NoSpam@nospam.net>:

For motorcycles the coming thing is the sidestand interlock.
I guess enough riders did the sideways skate on the first
left turn after forgetting to put the sidestand up to get
the attention of the safetycrats.

>I am surprised they haven't done it motorcycles yet, I can't remember when
>they first started doing it to autos but the clutch safety switch is usually
>my first modification. Where the is a will there is a way and it is usually
>for the better.

--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

Re: Starter interlock question
 

On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 06:33:02 -0400, the following appeared
in rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by "HarryS"
<NoSpam@nospam.net>:

For motorcycles the coming thing is the sidestand interlock.
I guess enough riders did the sideways skate on the first
left turn after forgetting to put the sidestand up to get
the attention of the safetycrats.

>I am surprised they haven't done it motorcycles yet, I can't remember when
>they first started doing it to autos but the clutch safety switch is usually
>my first modification. Where the is a will there is a way and it is usually
>for the better.

--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

Re: Starter interlock question
 

On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 06:33:02 -0400, the following appeared
in rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by "HarryS"
<NoSpam@nospam.net>:

For motorcycles the coming thing is the sidestand interlock.
I guess enough riders did the sideways skate on the first
left turn after forgetting to put the sidestand up to get
the attention of the safetycrats.

>I am surprised they haven't done it motorcycles yet, I can't remember when
>they first started doing it to autos but the clutch safety switch is usually
>my first modification. Where the is a will there is a way and it is usually
>for the better.

--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

Re: Starter interlock question
 

On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 06:33:02 -0400, the following appeared
in rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by "HarryS"
<NoSpam@nospam.net>:

For motorcycles the coming thing is the sidestand interlock.
I guess enough riders did the sideways skate on the first
left turn after forgetting to put the sidestand up to get
the attention of the safetycrats.

>I am surprised they haven't done it motorcycles yet, I can't remember when
>they first started doing it to autos but the clutch safety switch is usually
>my first modification. Where the is a will there is a way and it is usually
>for the better.

--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

Re: Starter interlock question
 

Nash used the clutch pedal to engage the starter, and release the
brake.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

HarryS wrote:
>
> I am surprised they haven't done it motorcycles yet, I can't remember when
> they first started doing it to autos but the clutch safety switch is usually
> my first modification. Where the is a will there is a way and it is usually
> for the better.
>
> --
> HarryS My 2¢
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:4261D35C.496A424F@cox.net...
> | I have seen many times the wear the thrust main burns into the
> | crank, via people that rest the foot on the clutch pedal. I sounds like
> | you have the problem whipped good enough for yourself, though.
> | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> |
> | JD Adams wrote:
> | >
> | > Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
> | >
> | > I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the
> clutch
> | > pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank
> bearings and
> | > journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all.
> Some of
> | > us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very
> much!
> | >
> | > Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small
> piece of
> | > wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
> | > cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether.
> I
> | > can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
> | >
> | > Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse
> in the
> | > block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly,
> I'd
> | > just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter
> of
> | > principle.
> | >
> | > Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
> | > Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety
> enhancement
> | > crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit
> their
> | > civil liability.
> | >
> | > -JD

Re: Starter interlock question
 

Nash used the clutch pedal to engage the starter, and release the
brake.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

HarryS wrote:
>
> I am surprised they haven't done it motorcycles yet, I can't remember when
> they first started doing it to autos but the clutch safety switch is usually
> my first modification. Where the is a will there is a way and it is usually
> for the better.
>
> --
> HarryS My 2¢
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:4261D35C.496A424F@cox.net...
> | I have seen many times the wear the thrust main burns into the
> | crank, via people that rest the foot on the clutch pedal. I sounds like
> | you have the problem whipped good enough for yourself, though.
> | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> |
> | JD Adams wrote:
> | >
> | > Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
> | >
> | > I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the
> clutch
> | > pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank
> bearings and
> | > journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all.
> Some of
> | > us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very
> much!
> | >
> | > Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small
> piece of
> | > wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
> | > cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether.
> I
> | > can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
> | >
> | > Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse
> in the
> | > block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly,
> I'd
> | > just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter
> of
> | > principle.
> | >
> | > Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
> | > Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety
> enhancement
> | > crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit
> their
> | > civil liability.
> | >
> | > -JD

Re: Starter interlock question
 

Nash used the clutch pedal to engage the starter, and release the
brake.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

HarryS wrote:
>
> I am surprised they haven't done it motorcycles yet, I can't remember when
> they first started doing it to autos but the clutch safety switch is usually
> my first modification. Where the is a will there is a way and it is usually
> for the better.
>
> --
> HarryS My 2¢
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:4261D35C.496A424F@cox.net...
> | I have seen many times the wear the thrust main burns into the
> | crank, via people that rest the foot on the clutch pedal. I sounds like
> | you have the problem whipped good enough for yourself, though.
> | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> |
> | JD Adams wrote:
> | >
> | > Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
> | >
> | > I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the
> clutch
> | > pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank
> bearings and
> | > journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all.
> Some of
> | > us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very
> much!
> | >
> | > Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small
> piece of
> | > wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
> | > cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether.
> I
> | > can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
> | >
> | > Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse
> in the
> | > block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly,
> I'd
> | > just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter
> of
> | > principle.
> | >
> | > Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
> | > Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety
> enhancement
> | > crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit
> their
> | > civil liability.
> | >
> | > -JD

Re: Starter interlock question
 

Nash used the clutch pedal to engage the starter, and release the
brake.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

HarryS wrote:
>
> I am surprised they haven't done it motorcycles yet, I can't remember when
> they first started doing it to autos but the clutch safety switch is usually
> my first modification. Where the is a will there is a way and it is usually
> for the better.
>
> --
> HarryS My 2¢
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:4261D35C.496A424F@cox.net...
> | I have seen many times the wear the thrust main burns into the
> | crank, via people that rest the foot on the clutch pedal. I sounds like
> | you have the problem whipped good enough for yourself, though.
> | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> |
> | JD Adams wrote:
> | >
> | > Quick question about an '05 TJL I bought in February.
> | >
> | > I *loathe* Big Brother demanding that my left foot sit squarely on the
> clutch
> | > pedal before I am allowed to crank the engine. The engine crank
> bearings and
> | > journals don't like it either, no oil pressure being present and all.
> Some of
> | > us are smart enough to fire the damned thing in neutral, thank you very
> much!
> | >
> | > Anyway, I simply umplugged 'the device' and shorted it with a small
> piece of
> | > wire and some black tape. What I'd rather do is undo the clutch master
> | > cylinder actuator rod and remove the entire offensive device altogether.
> I
> | > can't see far enough up there to determine how to unhook the rod itself.
> | >
> | > Has anyone done this? One can always just insert the appropriate fuse
> in the
> | > block, however one must tolerate the constant '4WD' lamp, and frankly,
> I'd
> | > just assume see the entire pressure switch go away, purely as a matter
> of
> | > principle.
> | >
> | > Not interested in flames on 'safety concerns'. I'm a veteran Commerical
> | > Driver and I have no need for bolt-on Goverment mandated safety
> enhancement
> | > crapola designed for stupid people and/or Corporations who wish to limit
> their
> | > civil liability.
> | >
> | > -JD

Re: Starter interlock question
 

On the '05's you can still do this, however the '4WD' lamp on the dash stays
lit as a result. I'll probably spend next Saturday underneath the dash
figuring out how to rip the whole thing out by the wires. I figure if you're
smart enough to defeat such a device, you're probably good to go without it.

-JD


Mike Romain wrote:
> I thought you could just stick a fuse into the 'auto' tranny slot in the
> fuse panel on a TJ and away you go with a bypassed clutch switch?

Re: Starter interlock question
 

On the '05's you can still do this, however the '4WD' lamp on the dash stays
lit as a result. I'll probably spend next Saturday underneath the dash
figuring out how to rip the whole thing out by the wires. I figure if you're
smart enough to defeat such a device, you're probably good to go without it.

-JD


Mike Romain wrote:
> I thought you could just stick a fuse into the 'auto' tranny slot in the
> fuse panel on a TJ and away you go with a bypassed clutch switch?

Re: Starter interlock question
 

On the '05's you can still do this, however the '4WD' lamp on the dash stays
lit as a result. I'll probably spend next Saturday underneath the dash
figuring out how to rip the whole thing out by the wires. I figure if you're
smart enough to defeat such a device, you're probably good to go without it.

-JD


Mike Romain wrote:
> I thought you could just stick a fuse into the 'auto' tranny slot in the
> fuse panel on a TJ and away you go with a bypassed clutch switch?

Re: Starter interlock question
 

On the '05's you can still do this, however the '4WD' lamp on the dash stays
lit as a result. I'll probably spend next Saturday underneath the dash
figuring out how to rip the whole thing out by the wires. I figure if you're
smart enough to defeat such a device, you're probably good to go without it.

-JD


Mike Romain wrote:
> I thought you could just stick a fuse into the 'auto' tranny slot in the
> fuse panel on a TJ and away you go with a bypassed clutch switch?

Re: Starter interlock question
 

Hey Carl! Nope; sold it just before I left California last year; replaced it
with a loaded, white/grey HT '05 TJL.

-JD

Carl Saiyed wrote:
> JD good to see you are still alive! Do you still have your 'stang?

Re: Starter interlock question
 

Hey Carl! Nope; sold it just before I left California last year; replaced it
with a loaded, white/grey HT '05 TJL.

-JD

Carl Saiyed wrote:
> JD good to see you are still alive! Do you still have your 'stang?

Re: Starter interlock question
 

Hey Carl! Nope; sold it just before I left California last year; replaced it
with a loaded, white/grey HT '05 TJL.

-JD

Carl Saiyed wrote:
> JD good to see you are still alive! Do you still have your 'stang?

Re: Starter interlock question
 

Hey Carl! Nope; sold it just before I left California last year; replaced it
with a loaded, white/grey HT '05 TJL.

-JD

Carl Saiyed wrote:
> JD good to see you are still alive! Do you still have your 'stang?

Re: Starter interlock question
 

Just snip the wires and wire nut them together, or put auto connectors
opposite and plug them together. Ripping out stuff just cuts into top down
time.

--
HarryS My 2¢
"JD Adams" <withheld@my.request> wrote in message
news:99GdneDz-7viev_fRVn-3Q@softcom.net...
| On the '05's you can still do this, however the '4WD' lamp on the dash
stays
| lit as a result. I'll probably spend next Saturday underneath the dash
| figuring out how to rip the whole thing out by the wires. I figure if
you're
| smart enough to defeat such a device, you're probably good to go without
it.
|
| -JD
|
|
| Mike Romain wrote:
| > I thought you could just stick a fuse into the 'auto' tranny slot in the
| > fuse panel on a TJ and away you go with a bypassed clutch switch?

Re: Starter interlock question
 

Just snip the wires and wire nut them together, or put auto connectors
opposite and plug them together. Ripping out stuff just cuts into top down
time.

--
HarryS My 2¢
"JD Adams" <withheld@my.request> wrote in message
news:99GdneDz-7viev_fRVn-3Q@softcom.net...
| On the '05's you can still do this, however the '4WD' lamp on the dash
stays
| lit as a result. I'll probably spend next Saturday underneath the dash
| figuring out how to rip the whole thing out by the wires. I figure if
you're
| smart enough to defeat such a device, you're probably good to go without
it.
|
| -JD
|
|
| Mike Romain wrote:
| > I thought you could just stick a fuse into the 'auto' tranny slot in the
| > fuse panel on a TJ and away you go with a bypassed clutch switch?

Re: Starter interlock question
 

Just snip the wires and wire nut them together, or put auto connectors
opposite and plug them together. Ripping out stuff just cuts into top down
time.

--
HarryS My 2¢
"JD Adams" <withheld@my.request> wrote in message
news:99GdneDz-7viev_fRVn-3Q@softcom.net...
| On the '05's you can still do this, however the '4WD' lamp on the dash
stays
| lit as a result. I'll probably spend next Saturday underneath the dash
| figuring out how to rip the whole thing out by the wires. I figure if
you're
| smart enough to defeat such a device, you're probably good to go without
it.
|
| -JD
|
|
| Mike Romain wrote:
| > I thought you could just stick a fuse into the 'auto' tranny slot in the
| > fuse panel on a TJ and away you go with a bypassed clutch switch?