Spring over questions
03-22-2006, 09:03 PM
#11
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Re: Spring over questions
I don't know carl, I think you are ignoring alot of the other problems
associated with SOA. Especially if you were to follow and read Bill's link,
there are alot of other factors to consider to an SOA. He'd get the same
amount of lift with a 4.5" Rubicon express extreme lift, and wouldn't have
all of the other problems associated with SOA.......I really don't think its
cheaper if it's done "correctly"
Carl wrote:
>SOA is the way to go, Chuck.
>
>It is absolutely worth the effort over lift springs because it will ride
>just as well as stock, and outflex most lift springs. Also, it frees up a
>TON of space under the axles giving you even more clearance.
>
>There really are no 'odd' problems with spring-over. Most trucks and 4x4's
>come from the factory with a spring-over type setup.
>
>The only problem that I encountered was the drag link vs pass front spring
>clearance. On a hard right turn, the drag link would sometimes graze the
>spring. The spring shaved off a wee bit of the drag link, providing the
>needed clearance.
>
>SOA kills stock wrangler leaf packs. The way to combat this is to buy
>someone else's stock wrangler leaf packs. Whichever main leaves are worse,
>cut off the spring eyes and add them below the main leaf in the good pack.
>Also throw in the small leaf at the bottom to give your drag link more
>clearance and add a little hieght. The extra main leaf will keep your
>springs alive and give you about 1" extra. Alternatively, you can buy
>springs designed for Spring over from Rubicon, with or without added lift.
>
>A kit is not required. All you need is: 4 spring perches, 4" drop pitman
>arm, longer rear brake line, 4 shocks, and a CV drive shaft with SYE from
>Tom Wood for the rear driveline. The front driveline and brake lines are
>plenty long enough.
>
>With a spring-over on stock springs, you can clear 35's without trimming. I
>ran 33's on a sprung-over 89 YJ with great success. You mentioned having
>stock axles. If you have the D35 rear, most don't reccomend going above 33's
>because of breakage issues.
>
>HTH,
>
>Carl
>
>> After going wheeling last week, I found I really do need more height and
>> bigger tires. My 85/91 YJ-7 has the 258 and T-5 tranny along with stock
>[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>>
>> Thanks
--
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associated with SOA. Especially if you were to follow and read Bill's link,
there are alot of other factors to consider to an SOA. He'd get the same
amount of lift with a 4.5" Rubicon express extreme lift, and wouldn't have
all of the other problems associated with SOA.......I really don't think its
cheaper if it's done "correctly"
Carl wrote:
>SOA is the way to go, Chuck.
>
>It is absolutely worth the effort over lift springs because it will ride
>just as well as stock, and outflex most lift springs. Also, it frees up a
>TON of space under the axles giving you even more clearance.
>
>There really are no 'odd' problems with spring-over. Most trucks and 4x4's
>come from the factory with a spring-over type setup.
>
>The only problem that I encountered was the drag link vs pass front spring
>clearance. On a hard right turn, the drag link would sometimes graze the
>spring. The spring shaved off a wee bit of the drag link, providing the
>needed clearance.
>
>SOA kills stock wrangler leaf packs. The way to combat this is to buy
>someone else's stock wrangler leaf packs. Whichever main leaves are worse,
>cut off the spring eyes and add them below the main leaf in the good pack.
>Also throw in the small leaf at the bottom to give your drag link more
>clearance and add a little hieght. The extra main leaf will keep your
>springs alive and give you about 1" extra. Alternatively, you can buy
>springs designed for Spring over from Rubicon, with or without added lift.
>
>A kit is not required. All you need is: 4 spring perches, 4" drop pitman
>arm, longer rear brake line, 4 shocks, and a CV drive shaft with SYE from
>Tom Wood for the rear driveline. The front driveline and brake lines are
>plenty long enough.
>
>With a spring-over on stock springs, you can clear 35's without trimming. I
>ran 33's on a sprung-over 89 YJ with great success. You mentioned having
>stock axles. If you have the D35 rear, most don't reccomend going above 33's
>because of breakage issues.
>
>HTH,
>
>Carl
>
>> After going wheeling last week, I found I really do need more height and
>> bigger tires. My 85/91 YJ-7 has the 258 and T-5 tranny along with stock
>[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>>
>> Thanks
--
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03-22-2006, 09:03 PM
#12
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Re: Spring over questions
I don't know carl, I think you are ignoring alot of the other problems
associated with SOA. Especially if you were to follow and read Bill's link,
there are alot of other factors to consider to an SOA. He'd get the same
amount of lift with a 4.5" Rubicon express extreme lift, and wouldn't have
all of the other problems associated with SOA.......I really don't think its
cheaper if it's done "correctly"
Carl wrote:
>SOA is the way to go, Chuck.
>
>It is absolutely worth the effort over lift springs because it will ride
>just as well as stock, and outflex most lift springs. Also, it frees up a
>TON of space under the axles giving you even more clearance.
>
>There really are no 'odd' problems with spring-over. Most trucks and 4x4's
>come from the factory with a spring-over type setup.
>
>The only problem that I encountered was the drag link vs pass front spring
>clearance. On a hard right turn, the drag link would sometimes graze the
>spring. The spring shaved off a wee bit of the drag link, providing the
>needed clearance.
>
>SOA kills stock wrangler leaf packs. The way to combat this is to buy
>someone else's stock wrangler leaf packs. Whichever main leaves are worse,
>cut off the spring eyes and add them below the main leaf in the good pack.
>Also throw in the small leaf at the bottom to give your drag link more
>clearance and add a little hieght. The extra main leaf will keep your
>springs alive and give you about 1" extra. Alternatively, you can buy
>springs designed for Spring over from Rubicon, with or without added lift.
>
>A kit is not required. All you need is: 4 spring perches, 4" drop pitman
>arm, longer rear brake line, 4 shocks, and a CV drive shaft with SYE from
>Tom Wood for the rear driveline. The front driveline and brake lines are
>plenty long enough.
>
>With a spring-over on stock springs, you can clear 35's without trimming. I
>ran 33's on a sprung-over 89 YJ with great success. You mentioned having
>stock axles. If you have the D35 rear, most don't reccomend going above 33's
>because of breakage issues.
>
>HTH,
>
>Carl
>
>> After going wheeling last week, I found I really do need more height and
>> bigger tires. My 85/91 YJ-7 has the 258 and T-5 tranny along with stock
>[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>>
>> Thanks
--
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associated with SOA. Especially if you were to follow and read Bill's link,
there are alot of other factors to consider to an SOA. He'd get the same
amount of lift with a 4.5" Rubicon express extreme lift, and wouldn't have
all of the other problems associated with SOA.......I really don't think its
cheaper if it's done "correctly"
Carl wrote:
>SOA is the way to go, Chuck.
>
>It is absolutely worth the effort over lift springs because it will ride
>just as well as stock, and outflex most lift springs. Also, it frees up a
>TON of space under the axles giving you even more clearance.
>
>There really are no 'odd' problems with spring-over. Most trucks and 4x4's
>come from the factory with a spring-over type setup.
>
>The only problem that I encountered was the drag link vs pass front spring
>clearance. On a hard right turn, the drag link would sometimes graze the
>spring. The spring shaved off a wee bit of the drag link, providing the
>needed clearance.
>
>SOA kills stock wrangler leaf packs. The way to combat this is to buy
>someone else's stock wrangler leaf packs. Whichever main leaves are worse,
>cut off the spring eyes and add them below the main leaf in the good pack.
>Also throw in the small leaf at the bottom to give your drag link more
>clearance and add a little hieght. The extra main leaf will keep your
>springs alive and give you about 1" extra. Alternatively, you can buy
>springs designed for Spring over from Rubicon, with or without added lift.
>
>A kit is not required. All you need is: 4 spring perches, 4" drop pitman
>arm, longer rear brake line, 4 shocks, and a CV drive shaft with SYE from
>Tom Wood for the rear driveline. The front driveline and brake lines are
>plenty long enough.
>
>With a spring-over on stock springs, you can clear 35's without trimming. I
>ran 33's on a sprung-over 89 YJ with great success. You mentioned having
>stock axles. If you have the D35 rear, most don't reccomend going above 33's
>because of breakage issues.
>
>HTH,
>
>Carl
>
>> After going wheeling last week, I found I really do need more height and
>> bigger tires. My 85/91 YJ-7 has the 258 and T-5 tranny along with stock
>[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>>
>> Thanks
--
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03-22-2006, 09:03 PM
#13
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Re: Spring over questions
I don't know carl, I think you are ignoring alot of the other problems
associated with SOA. Especially if you were to follow and read Bill's link,
there are alot of other factors to consider to an SOA. He'd get the same
amount of lift with a 4.5" Rubicon express extreme lift, and wouldn't have
all of the other problems associated with SOA.......I really don't think its
cheaper if it's done "correctly"
Carl wrote:
>SOA is the way to go, Chuck.
>
>It is absolutely worth the effort over lift springs because it will ride
>just as well as stock, and outflex most lift springs. Also, it frees up a
>TON of space under the axles giving you even more clearance.
>
>There really are no 'odd' problems with spring-over. Most trucks and 4x4's
>come from the factory with a spring-over type setup.
>
>The only problem that I encountered was the drag link vs pass front spring
>clearance. On a hard right turn, the drag link would sometimes graze the
>spring. The spring shaved off a wee bit of the drag link, providing the
>needed clearance.
>
>SOA kills stock wrangler leaf packs. The way to combat this is to buy
>someone else's stock wrangler leaf packs. Whichever main leaves are worse,
>cut off the spring eyes and add them below the main leaf in the good pack.
>Also throw in the small leaf at the bottom to give your drag link more
>clearance and add a little hieght. The extra main leaf will keep your
>springs alive and give you about 1" extra. Alternatively, you can buy
>springs designed for Spring over from Rubicon, with or without added lift.
>
>A kit is not required. All you need is: 4 spring perches, 4" drop pitman
>arm, longer rear brake line, 4 shocks, and a CV drive shaft with SYE from
>Tom Wood for the rear driveline. The front driveline and brake lines are
>plenty long enough.
>
>With a spring-over on stock springs, you can clear 35's without trimming. I
>ran 33's on a sprung-over 89 YJ with great success. You mentioned having
>stock axles. If you have the D35 rear, most don't reccomend going above 33's
>because of breakage issues.
>
>HTH,
>
>Carl
>
>> After going wheeling last week, I found I really do need more height and
>> bigger tires. My 85/91 YJ-7 has the 258 and T-5 tranny along with stock
>[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>>
>> Thanks
--
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associated with SOA. Especially if you were to follow and read Bill's link,
there are alot of other factors to consider to an SOA. He'd get the same
amount of lift with a 4.5" Rubicon express extreme lift, and wouldn't have
all of the other problems associated with SOA.......I really don't think its
cheaper if it's done "correctly"
Carl wrote:
>SOA is the way to go, Chuck.
>
>It is absolutely worth the effort over lift springs because it will ride
>just as well as stock, and outflex most lift springs. Also, it frees up a
>TON of space under the axles giving you even more clearance.
>
>There really are no 'odd' problems with spring-over. Most trucks and 4x4's
>come from the factory with a spring-over type setup.
>
>The only problem that I encountered was the drag link vs pass front spring
>clearance. On a hard right turn, the drag link would sometimes graze the
>spring. The spring shaved off a wee bit of the drag link, providing the
>needed clearance.
>
>SOA kills stock wrangler leaf packs. The way to combat this is to buy
>someone else's stock wrangler leaf packs. Whichever main leaves are worse,
>cut off the spring eyes and add them below the main leaf in the good pack.
>Also throw in the small leaf at the bottom to give your drag link more
>clearance and add a little hieght. The extra main leaf will keep your
>springs alive and give you about 1" extra. Alternatively, you can buy
>springs designed for Spring over from Rubicon, with or without added lift.
>
>A kit is not required. All you need is: 4 spring perches, 4" drop pitman
>arm, longer rear brake line, 4 shocks, and a CV drive shaft with SYE from
>Tom Wood for the rear driveline. The front driveline and brake lines are
>plenty long enough.
>
>With a spring-over on stock springs, you can clear 35's without trimming. I
>ran 33's on a sprung-over 89 YJ with great success. You mentioned having
>stock axles. If you have the D35 rear, most don't reccomend going above 33's
>because of breakage issues.
>
>HTH,
>
>Carl
>
>> After going wheeling last week, I found I really do need more height and
>> bigger tires. My 85/91 YJ-7 has the 258 and T-5 tranny along with stock
>[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>>
>> Thanks
--
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03-22-2006, 09:14 PM
#14
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Re: Spring over questions
I followed Bill's link. The only issue encountered with SOA not encountered
with spring-under is axle wrap. The added leaf does the trick for the most
part. Adding a ladder bar will eliminate the axle wrap.
I feel that going SOA is a huge advantage over spring-under simply because
of the added clearance with moving the springs. I don't like my U-bolt ends
and springs hanging out waiting to catch on anything and everything. As
spring clearance wasn't enough, long springs on an spring-under
configuration coupled with lift shackles point the shackles backwards or
straight down. SOA points them away from the Jeep, keeping them out of
harm's way.
The RE spring-under lift 4.5" lift nets 4.5 - 5".
Just springing over gives 5.5". Add the stock wrangler main leaf and short
leaf, net 6.5-7".
IMHO, upgrading an SUA suspension is a waste of money.
"robb6435 via CarKB.com" <u7360@uwe> wrote in message
news:5da983038ae5e@uwe...
>I don't know carl, I think you are ignoring alot of the other problems
> associated with SOA. Especially if you were to follow and read Bill's
> link,
> there are alot of other factors to consider to an SOA. He'd get the same
> amount of lift with a 4.5" Rubicon express extreme lift, and wouldn't have
> all of the other problems associated with SOA.......I really don't think
> its
> cheaper if it's done "correctly"
>
> Carl wrote:
>>SOA is the way to go, Chuck.
>>
>>It is absolutely worth the effort over lift springs because it will ride
>>just as well as stock, and outflex most lift springs. Also, it frees up a
>>TON of space under the axles giving you even more clearance.
>>
>>There really are no 'odd' problems with spring-over. Most trucks and 4x4's
>>come from the factory with a spring-over type setup.
>>
>>The only problem that I encountered was the drag link vs pass front spring
>>clearance. On a hard right turn, the drag link would sometimes graze the
>>spring. The spring shaved off a wee bit of the drag link, providing the
>>needed clearance.
>>
>>SOA kills stock wrangler leaf packs. The way to combat this is to buy
>>someone else's stock wrangler leaf packs. Whichever main leaves are worse,
>>cut off the spring eyes and add them below the main leaf in the good pack.
>>Also throw in the small leaf at the bottom to give your drag link more
>>clearance and add a little hieght. The extra main leaf will keep your
>>springs alive and give you about 1" extra. Alternatively, you can buy
>>springs designed for Spring over from Rubicon, with or without added lift.
>>
>>A kit is not required. All you need is: 4 spring perches, 4" drop pitman
>>arm, longer rear brake line, 4 shocks, and a CV drive shaft with SYE from
>>Tom Wood for the rear driveline. The front driveline and brake lines are
>>plenty long enough.
>>
>>With a spring-over on stock springs, you can clear 35's without trimming.
>>I
>>ran 33's on a sprung-over 89 YJ with great success. You mentioned having
>>stock axles. If you have the D35 rear, most don't reccomend going above
>>33's
>>because of breakage issues.
>>
>>HTH,
>>
>>Carl
>>
>>> After going wheeling last week, I found I really do need more height and
>>> bigger tires. My 85/91 YJ-7 has the 258 and T-5 tranny along with stock
>>[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>>>
>>> Thanks
>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
with spring-under is axle wrap. The added leaf does the trick for the most
part. Adding a ladder bar will eliminate the axle wrap.
I feel that going SOA is a huge advantage over spring-under simply because
of the added clearance with moving the springs. I don't like my U-bolt ends
and springs hanging out waiting to catch on anything and everything. As
spring clearance wasn't enough, long springs on an spring-under
configuration coupled with lift shackles point the shackles backwards or
straight down. SOA points them away from the Jeep, keeping them out of
harm's way.
The RE spring-under lift 4.5" lift nets 4.5 - 5".
Just springing over gives 5.5". Add the stock wrangler main leaf and short
leaf, net 6.5-7".
IMHO, upgrading an SUA suspension is a waste of money.
"robb6435 via CarKB.com" <u7360@uwe> wrote in message
news:5da983038ae5e@uwe...
>I don't know carl, I think you are ignoring alot of the other problems
> associated with SOA. Especially if you were to follow and read Bill's
> link,
> there are alot of other factors to consider to an SOA. He'd get the same
> amount of lift with a 4.5" Rubicon express extreme lift, and wouldn't have
> all of the other problems associated with SOA.......I really don't think
> its
> cheaper if it's done "correctly"
>
> Carl wrote:
>>SOA is the way to go, Chuck.
>>
>>It is absolutely worth the effort over lift springs because it will ride
>>just as well as stock, and outflex most lift springs. Also, it frees up a
>>TON of space under the axles giving you even more clearance.
>>
>>There really are no 'odd' problems with spring-over. Most trucks and 4x4's
>>come from the factory with a spring-over type setup.
>>
>>The only problem that I encountered was the drag link vs pass front spring
>>clearance. On a hard right turn, the drag link would sometimes graze the
>>spring. The spring shaved off a wee bit of the drag link, providing the
>>needed clearance.
>>
>>SOA kills stock wrangler leaf packs. The way to combat this is to buy
>>someone else's stock wrangler leaf packs. Whichever main leaves are worse,
>>cut off the spring eyes and add them below the main leaf in the good pack.
>>Also throw in the small leaf at the bottom to give your drag link more
>>clearance and add a little hieght. The extra main leaf will keep your
>>springs alive and give you about 1" extra. Alternatively, you can buy
>>springs designed for Spring over from Rubicon, with or without added lift.
>>
>>A kit is not required. All you need is: 4 spring perches, 4" drop pitman
>>arm, longer rear brake line, 4 shocks, and a CV drive shaft with SYE from
>>Tom Wood for the rear driveline. The front driveline and brake lines are
>>plenty long enough.
>>
>>With a spring-over on stock springs, you can clear 35's without trimming.
>>I
>>ran 33's on a sprung-over 89 YJ with great success. You mentioned having
>>stock axles. If you have the D35 rear, most don't reccomend going above
>>33's
>>because of breakage issues.
>>
>>HTH,
>>
>>Carl
>>
>>> After going wheeling last week, I found I really do need more height and
>>> bigger tires. My 85/91 YJ-7 has the 258 and T-5 tranny along with stock
>>[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>>>
>>> Thanks
>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
03-22-2006, 09:14 PM
#15
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Spring over questions
I followed Bill's link. The only issue encountered with SOA not encountered
with spring-under is axle wrap. The added leaf does the trick for the most
part. Adding a ladder bar will eliminate the axle wrap.
I feel that going SOA is a huge advantage over spring-under simply because
of the added clearance with moving the springs. I don't like my U-bolt ends
and springs hanging out waiting to catch on anything and everything. As
spring clearance wasn't enough, long springs on an spring-under
configuration coupled with lift shackles point the shackles backwards or
straight down. SOA points them away from the Jeep, keeping them out of
harm's way.
The RE spring-under lift 4.5" lift nets 4.5 - 5".
Just springing over gives 5.5". Add the stock wrangler main leaf and short
leaf, net 6.5-7".
IMHO, upgrading an SUA suspension is a waste of money.
"robb6435 via CarKB.com" <u7360@uwe> wrote in message
news:5da983038ae5e@uwe...
>I don't know carl, I think you are ignoring alot of the other problems
> associated with SOA. Especially if you were to follow and read Bill's
> link,
> there are alot of other factors to consider to an SOA. He'd get the same
> amount of lift with a 4.5" Rubicon express extreme lift, and wouldn't have
> all of the other problems associated with SOA.......I really don't think
> its
> cheaper if it's done "correctly"
>
> Carl wrote:
>>SOA is the way to go, Chuck.
>>
>>It is absolutely worth the effort over lift springs because it will ride
>>just as well as stock, and outflex most lift springs. Also, it frees up a
>>TON of space under the axles giving you even more clearance.
>>
>>There really are no 'odd' problems with spring-over. Most trucks and 4x4's
>>come from the factory with a spring-over type setup.
>>
>>The only problem that I encountered was the drag link vs pass front spring
>>clearance. On a hard right turn, the drag link would sometimes graze the
>>spring. The spring shaved off a wee bit of the drag link, providing the
>>needed clearance.
>>
>>SOA kills stock wrangler leaf packs. The way to combat this is to buy
>>someone else's stock wrangler leaf packs. Whichever main leaves are worse,
>>cut off the spring eyes and add them below the main leaf in the good pack.
>>Also throw in the small leaf at the bottom to give your drag link more
>>clearance and add a little hieght. The extra main leaf will keep your
>>springs alive and give you about 1" extra. Alternatively, you can buy
>>springs designed for Spring over from Rubicon, with or without added lift.
>>
>>A kit is not required. All you need is: 4 spring perches, 4" drop pitman
>>arm, longer rear brake line, 4 shocks, and a CV drive shaft with SYE from
>>Tom Wood for the rear driveline. The front driveline and brake lines are
>>plenty long enough.
>>
>>With a spring-over on stock springs, you can clear 35's without trimming.
>>I
>>ran 33's on a sprung-over 89 YJ with great success. You mentioned having
>>stock axles. If you have the D35 rear, most don't reccomend going above
>>33's
>>because of breakage issues.
>>
>>HTH,
>>
>>Carl
>>
>>> After going wheeling last week, I found I really do need more height and
>>> bigger tires. My 85/91 YJ-7 has the 258 and T-5 tranny along with stock
>>[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>>>
>>> Thanks
>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
with spring-under is axle wrap. The added leaf does the trick for the most
part. Adding a ladder bar will eliminate the axle wrap.
I feel that going SOA is a huge advantage over spring-under simply because
of the added clearance with moving the springs. I don't like my U-bolt ends
and springs hanging out waiting to catch on anything and everything. As
spring clearance wasn't enough, long springs on an spring-under
configuration coupled with lift shackles point the shackles backwards or
straight down. SOA points them away from the Jeep, keeping them out of
harm's way.
The RE spring-under lift 4.5" lift nets 4.5 - 5".
Just springing over gives 5.5". Add the stock wrangler main leaf and short
leaf, net 6.5-7".
IMHO, upgrading an SUA suspension is a waste of money.
"robb6435 via CarKB.com" <u7360@uwe> wrote in message
news:5da983038ae5e@uwe...
>I don't know carl, I think you are ignoring alot of the other problems
> associated with SOA. Especially if you were to follow and read Bill's
> link,
> there are alot of other factors to consider to an SOA. He'd get the same
> amount of lift with a 4.5" Rubicon express extreme lift, and wouldn't have
> all of the other problems associated with SOA.......I really don't think
> its
> cheaper if it's done "correctly"
>
> Carl wrote:
>>SOA is the way to go, Chuck.
>>
>>It is absolutely worth the effort over lift springs because it will ride
>>just as well as stock, and outflex most lift springs. Also, it frees up a
>>TON of space under the axles giving you even more clearance.
>>
>>There really are no 'odd' problems with spring-over. Most trucks and 4x4's
>>come from the factory with a spring-over type setup.
>>
>>The only problem that I encountered was the drag link vs pass front spring
>>clearance. On a hard right turn, the drag link would sometimes graze the
>>spring. The spring shaved off a wee bit of the drag link, providing the
>>needed clearance.
>>
>>SOA kills stock wrangler leaf packs. The way to combat this is to buy
>>someone else's stock wrangler leaf packs. Whichever main leaves are worse,
>>cut off the spring eyes and add them below the main leaf in the good pack.
>>Also throw in the small leaf at the bottom to give your drag link more
>>clearance and add a little hieght. The extra main leaf will keep your
>>springs alive and give you about 1" extra. Alternatively, you can buy
>>springs designed for Spring over from Rubicon, with or without added lift.
>>
>>A kit is not required. All you need is: 4 spring perches, 4" drop pitman
>>arm, longer rear brake line, 4 shocks, and a CV drive shaft with SYE from
>>Tom Wood for the rear driveline. The front driveline and brake lines are
>>plenty long enough.
>>
>>With a spring-over on stock springs, you can clear 35's without trimming.
>>I
>>ran 33's on a sprung-over 89 YJ with great success. You mentioned having
>>stock axles. If you have the D35 rear, most don't reccomend going above
>>33's
>>because of breakage issues.
>>
>>HTH,
>>
>>Carl
>>
>>> After going wheeling last week, I found I really do need more height and
>>> bigger tires. My 85/91 YJ-7 has the 258 and T-5 tranny along with stock
>>[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>>>
>>> Thanks
>
> --
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03-22-2006, 09:14 PM
#16
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Posts: n/a
Re: Spring over questions
I followed Bill's link. The only issue encountered with SOA not encountered
with spring-under is axle wrap. The added leaf does the trick for the most
part. Adding a ladder bar will eliminate the axle wrap.
I feel that going SOA is a huge advantage over spring-under simply because
of the added clearance with moving the springs. I don't like my U-bolt ends
and springs hanging out waiting to catch on anything and everything. As
spring clearance wasn't enough, long springs on an spring-under
configuration coupled with lift shackles point the shackles backwards or
straight down. SOA points them away from the Jeep, keeping them out of
harm's way.
The RE spring-under lift 4.5" lift nets 4.5 - 5".
Just springing over gives 5.5". Add the stock wrangler main leaf and short
leaf, net 6.5-7".
IMHO, upgrading an SUA suspension is a waste of money.
"robb6435 via CarKB.com" <u7360@uwe> wrote in message
news:5da983038ae5e@uwe...
>I don't know carl, I think you are ignoring alot of the other problems
> associated with SOA. Especially if you were to follow and read Bill's
> link,
> there are alot of other factors to consider to an SOA. He'd get the same
> amount of lift with a 4.5" Rubicon express extreme lift, and wouldn't have
> all of the other problems associated with SOA.......I really don't think
> its
> cheaper if it's done "correctly"
>
> Carl wrote:
>>SOA is the way to go, Chuck.
>>
>>It is absolutely worth the effort over lift springs because it will ride
>>just as well as stock, and outflex most lift springs. Also, it frees up a
>>TON of space under the axles giving you even more clearance.
>>
>>There really are no 'odd' problems with spring-over. Most trucks and 4x4's
>>come from the factory with a spring-over type setup.
>>
>>The only problem that I encountered was the drag link vs pass front spring
>>clearance. On a hard right turn, the drag link would sometimes graze the
>>spring. The spring shaved off a wee bit of the drag link, providing the
>>needed clearance.
>>
>>SOA kills stock wrangler leaf packs. The way to combat this is to buy
>>someone else's stock wrangler leaf packs. Whichever main leaves are worse,
>>cut off the spring eyes and add them below the main leaf in the good pack.
>>Also throw in the small leaf at the bottom to give your drag link more
>>clearance and add a little hieght. The extra main leaf will keep your
>>springs alive and give you about 1" extra. Alternatively, you can buy
>>springs designed for Spring over from Rubicon, with or without added lift.
>>
>>A kit is not required. All you need is: 4 spring perches, 4" drop pitman
>>arm, longer rear brake line, 4 shocks, and a CV drive shaft with SYE from
>>Tom Wood for the rear driveline. The front driveline and brake lines are
>>plenty long enough.
>>
>>With a spring-over on stock springs, you can clear 35's without trimming.
>>I
>>ran 33's on a sprung-over 89 YJ with great success. You mentioned having
>>stock axles. If you have the D35 rear, most don't reccomend going above
>>33's
>>because of breakage issues.
>>
>>HTH,
>>
>>Carl
>>
>>> After going wheeling last week, I found I really do need more height and
>>> bigger tires. My 85/91 YJ-7 has the 258 and T-5 tranny along with stock
>>[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>>>
>>> Thanks
>
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with spring-under is axle wrap. The added leaf does the trick for the most
part. Adding a ladder bar will eliminate the axle wrap.
I feel that going SOA is a huge advantage over spring-under simply because
of the added clearance with moving the springs. I don't like my U-bolt ends
and springs hanging out waiting to catch on anything and everything. As
spring clearance wasn't enough, long springs on an spring-under
configuration coupled with lift shackles point the shackles backwards or
straight down. SOA points them away from the Jeep, keeping them out of
harm's way.
The RE spring-under lift 4.5" lift nets 4.5 - 5".
Just springing over gives 5.5". Add the stock wrangler main leaf and short
leaf, net 6.5-7".
IMHO, upgrading an SUA suspension is a waste of money.
"robb6435 via CarKB.com" <u7360@uwe> wrote in message
news:5da983038ae5e@uwe...
>I don't know carl, I think you are ignoring alot of the other problems
> associated with SOA. Especially if you were to follow and read Bill's
> link,
> there are alot of other factors to consider to an SOA. He'd get the same
> amount of lift with a 4.5" Rubicon express extreme lift, and wouldn't have
> all of the other problems associated with SOA.......I really don't think
> its
> cheaper if it's done "correctly"
>
> Carl wrote:
>>SOA is the way to go, Chuck.
>>
>>It is absolutely worth the effort over lift springs because it will ride
>>just as well as stock, and outflex most lift springs. Also, it frees up a
>>TON of space under the axles giving you even more clearance.
>>
>>There really are no 'odd' problems with spring-over. Most trucks and 4x4's
>>come from the factory with a spring-over type setup.
>>
>>The only problem that I encountered was the drag link vs pass front spring
>>clearance. On a hard right turn, the drag link would sometimes graze the
>>spring. The spring shaved off a wee bit of the drag link, providing the
>>needed clearance.
>>
>>SOA kills stock wrangler leaf packs. The way to combat this is to buy
>>someone else's stock wrangler leaf packs. Whichever main leaves are worse,
>>cut off the spring eyes and add them below the main leaf in the good pack.
>>Also throw in the small leaf at the bottom to give your drag link more
>>clearance and add a little hieght. The extra main leaf will keep your
>>springs alive and give you about 1" extra. Alternatively, you can buy
>>springs designed for Spring over from Rubicon, with or without added lift.
>>
>>A kit is not required. All you need is: 4 spring perches, 4" drop pitman
>>arm, longer rear brake line, 4 shocks, and a CV drive shaft with SYE from
>>Tom Wood for the rear driveline. The front driveline and brake lines are
>>plenty long enough.
>>
>>With a spring-over on stock springs, you can clear 35's without trimming.
>>I
>>ran 33's on a sprung-over 89 YJ with great success. You mentioned having
>>stock axles. If you have the D35 rear, most don't reccomend going above
>>33's
>>because of breakage issues.
>>
>>HTH,
>>
>>Carl
>>
>>> After going wheeling last week, I found I really do need more height and
>>> bigger tires. My 85/91 YJ-7 has the 258 and T-5 tranny along with stock
>>[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>>>
>>> Thanks
>
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03-22-2006, 09:14 PM
#17
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Posts: n/a
Re: Spring over questions
I followed Bill's link. The only issue encountered with SOA not encountered
with spring-under is axle wrap. The added leaf does the trick for the most
part. Adding a ladder bar will eliminate the axle wrap.
I feel that going SOA is a huge advantage over spring-under simply because
of the added clearance with moving the springs. I don't like my U-bolt ends
and springs hanging out waiting to catch on anything and everything. As
spring clearance wasn't enough, long springs on an spring-under
configuration coupled with lift shackles point the shackles backwards or
straight down. SOA points them away from the Jeep, keeping them out of
harm's way.
The RE spring-under lift 4.5" lift nets 4.5 - 5".
Just springing over gives 5.5". Add the stock wrangler main leaf and short
leaf, net 6.5-7".
IMHO, upgrading an SUA suspension is a waste of money.
"robb6435 via CarKB.com" <u7360@uwe> wrote in message
news:5da983038ae5e@uwe...
>I don't know carl, I think you are ignoring alot of the other problems
> associated with SOA. Especially if you were to follow and read Bill's
> link,
> there are alot of other factors to consider to an SOA. He'd get the same
> amount of lift with a 4.5" Rubicon express extreme lift, and wouldn't have
> all of the other problems associated with SOA.......I really don't think
> its
> cheaper if it's done "correctly"
>
> Carl wrote:
>>SOA is the way to go, Chuck.
>>
>>It is absolutely worth the effort over lift springs because it will ride
>>just as well as stock, and outflex most lift springs. Also, it frees up a
>>TON of space under the axles giving you even more clearance.
>>
>>There really are no 'odd' problems with spring-over. Most trucks and 4x4's
>>come from the factory with a spring-over type setup.
>>
>>The only problem that I encountered was the drag link vs pass front spring
>>clearance. On a hard right turn, the drag link would sometimes graze the
>>spring. The spring shaved off a wee bit of the drag link, providing the
>>needed clearance.
>>
>>SOA kills stock wrangler leaf packs. The way to combat this is to buy
>>someone else's stock wrangler leaf packs. Whichever main leaves are worse,
>>cut off the spring eyes and add them below the main leaf in the good pack.
>>Also throw in the small leaf at the bottom to give your drag link more
>>clearance and add a little hieght. The extra main leaf will keep your
>>springs alive and give you about 1" extra. Alternatively, you can buy
>>springs designed for Spring over from Rubicon, with or without added lift.
>>
>>A kit is not required. All you need is: 4 spring perches, 4" drop pitman
>>arm, longer rear brake line, 4 shocks, and a CV drive shaft with SYE from
>>Tom Wood for the rear driveline. The front driveline and brake lines are
>>plenty long enough.
>>
>>With a spring-over on stock springs, you can clear 35's without trimming.
>>I
>>ran 33's on a sprung-over 89 YJ with great success. You mentioned having
>>stock axles. If you have the D35 rear, most don't reccomend going above
>>33's
>>because of breakage issues.
>>
>>HTH,
>>
>>Carl
>>
>>> After going wheeling last week, I found I really do need more height and
>>> bigger tires. My 85/91 YJ-7 has the 258 and T-5 tranny along with stock
>>[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>>>
>>> Thanks
>
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with spring-under is axle wrap. The added leaf does the trick for the most
part. Adding a ladder bar will eliminate the axle wrap.
I feel that going SOA is a huge advantage over spring-under simply because
of the added clearance with moving the springs. I don't like my U-bolt ends
and springs hanging out waiting to catch on anything and everything. As
spring clearance wasn't enough, long springs on an spring-under
configuration coupled with lift shackles point the shackles backwards or
straight down. SOA points them away from the Jeep, keeping them out of
harm's way.
The RE spring-under lift 4.5" lift nets 4.5 - 5".
Just springing over gives 5.5". Add the stock wrangler main leaf and short
leaf, net 6.5-7".
IMHO, upgrading an SUA suspension is a waste of money.
"robb6435 via CarKB.com" <u7360@uwe> wrote in message
news:5da983038ae5e@uwe...
>I don't know carl, I think you are ignoring alot of the other problems
> associated with SOA. Especially if you were to follow and read Bill's
> link,
> there are alot of other factors to consider to an SOA. He'd get the same
> amount of lift with a 4.5" Rubicon express extreme lift, and wouldn't have
> all of the other problems associated with SOA.......I really don't think
> its
> cheaper if it's done "correctly"
>
> Carl wrote:
>>SOA is the way to go, Chuck.
>>
>>It is absolutely worth the effort over lift springs because it will ride
>>just as well as stock, and outflex most lift springs. Also, it frees up a
>>TON of space under the axles giving you even more clearance.
>>
>>There really are no 'odd' problems with spring-over. Most trucks and 4x4's
>>come from the factory with a spring-over type setup.
>>
>>The only problem that I encountered was the drag link vs pass front spring
>>clearance. On a hard right turn, the drag link would sometimes graze the
>>spring. The spring shaved off a wee bit of the drag link, providing the
>>needed clearance.
>>
>>SOA kills stock wrangler leaf packs. The way to combat this is to buy
>>someone else's stock wrangler leaf packs. Whichever main leaves are worse,
>>cut off the spring eyes and add them below the main leaf in the good pack.
>>Also throw in the small leaf at the bottom to give your drag link more
>>clearance and add a little hieght. The extra main leaf will keep your
>>springs alive and give you about 1" extra. Alternatively, you can buy
>>springs designed for Spring over from Rubicon, with or without added lift.
>>
>>A kit is not required. All you need is: 4 spring perches, 4" drop pitman
>>arm, longer rear brake line, 4 shocks, and a CV drive shaft with SYE from
>>Tom Wood for the rear driveline. The front driveline and brake lines are
>>plenty long enough.
>>
>>With a spring-over on stock springs, you can clear 35's without trimming.
>>I
>>ran 33's on a sprung-over 89 YJ with great success. You mentioned having
>>stock axles. If you have the D35 rear, most don't reccomend going above
>>33's
>>because of breakage issues.
>>
>>HTH,
>>
>>Carl
>>
>>> After going wheeling last week, I found I really do need more height and
>>> bigger tires. My 85/91 YJ-7 has the 258 and T-5 tranny along with stock
>>[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>>>
>>> Thanks
>
> --
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03-22-2006, 11:18 PM
#18
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Spring over questions
actually, the advertised 4.5" lift actually lifted my jeep 6.25". Did you
forget about the steering linkage problems associated with your SOA? I
didn't hear you mention anything about them.....there are none with the kit
from RE.....Add a 1" body lift and I have everything a SOA has without
welding or ladder bars or anything else.......without axle wrap.......and
I'll place my springs against a SOA for flexability anytime......ESPECIALLY
when you are adding leaf's and rearcing the stock one's.....sounds like a
whole lotta hassle......
"The only problem that I encountered was the drag link vs pass front spring
clearance. On a hard right turn, the drag link would sometimes graze the
spring. The spring shaved off a wee bit of the drag link, providing the
needed clearance."
Doesn't sound like something I'd like to have on my rig....
--From Bill's link----
Another steering solution, if you're willing to spend the dough on your stock
Dana 30 is from M.O.R.E. Basically the M.O.R.E. kit adds bracketry to the
Dana 30 so you can mount the axle end of the draglink above the springs.
This kit is pictured below. Not a cheap solution, but a very good one.
Anything else you might have overlooked??? better read the article again.....
Carl wrote:
>I followed Bill's link. The only issue encountered with SOA not encountered
>with spring-under is axle wrap. The added leaf does the trick for the most
>part. Adding a ladder bar will eliminate the axle wrap.
>
>I feel that going SOA is a huge advantage over spring-under simply because
>of the added clearance with moving the springs. I don't like my U-bolt ends
>and springs hanging out waiting to catch on anything and everything. As
>spring clearance wasn't enough, long springs on an spring-under
>configuration coupled with lift shackles point the shackles backwards or
>straight down. SOA points them away from the Jeep, keeping them out of
>harm's way.
>
>The RE spring-under lift 4.5" lift nets 4.5 - 5".
>
>Just springing over gives 5.5". Add the stock wrangler main leaf and short
>leaf, net 6.5-7".
>
>IMHO, upgrading an SUA suspension is a waste of money.
>
>>I don't know carl, I think you are ignoring alot of the other problems
>> associated with SOA. Especially if you were to follow and read Bill's
>[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
--
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http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200603/1
forget about the steering linkage problems associated with your SOA? I
didn't hear you mention anything about them.....there are none with the kit
from RE.....Add a 1" body lift and I have everything a SOA has without
welding or ladder bars or anything else.......without axle wrap.......and
I'll place my springs against a SOA for flexability anytime......ESPECIALLY
when you are adding leaf's and rearcing the stock one's.....sounds like a
whole lotta hassle......
"The only problem that I encountered was the drag link vs pass front spring
clearance. On a hard right turn, the drag link would sometimes graze the
spring. The spring shaved off a wee bit of the drag link, providing the
needed clearance."
Doesn't sound like something I'd like to have on my rig....
--From Bill's link----
Another steering solution, if you're willing to spend the dough on your stock
Dana 30 is from M.O.R.E. Basically the M.O.R.E. kit adds bracketry to the
Dana 30 so you can mount the axle end of the draglink above the springs.
This kit is pictured below. Not a cheap solution, but a very good one.
Anything else you might have overlooked??? better read the article again.....
Carl wrote:
>I followed Bill's link. The only issue encountered with SOA not encountered
>with spring-under is axle wrap. The added leaf does the trick for the most
>part. Adding a ladder bar will eliminate the axle wrap.
>
>I feel that going SOA is a huge advantage over spring-under simply because
>of the added clearance with moving the springs. I don't like my U-bolt ends
>and springs hanging out waiting to catch on anything and everything. As
>spring clearance wasn't enough, long springs on an spring-under
>configuration coupled with lift shackles point the shackles backwards or
>straight down. SOA points them away from the Jeep, keeping them out of
>harm's way.
>
>The RE spring-under lift 4.5" lift nets 4.5 - 5".
>
>Just springing over gives 5.5". Add the stock wrangler main leaf and short
>leaf, net 6.5-7".
>
>IMHO, upgrading an SUA suspension is a waste of money.
>
>>I don't know carl, I think you are ignoring alot of the other problems
>> associated with SOA. Especially if you were to follow and read Bill's
>[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
--
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03-22-2006, 11:18 PM
#19
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Posts: n/a
Re: Spring over questions
actually, the advertised 4.5" lift actually lifted my jeep 6.25". Did you
forget about the steering linkage problems associated with your SOA? I
didn't hear you mention anything about them.....there are none with the kit
from RE.....Add a 1" body lift and I have everything a SOA has without
welding or ladder bars or anything else.......without axle wrap.......and
I'll place my springs against a SOA for flexability anytime......ESPECIALLY
when you are adding leaf's and rearcing the stock one's.....sounds like a
whole lotta hassle......
"The only problem that I encountered was the drag link vs pass front spring
clearance. On a hard right turn, the drag link would sometimes graze the
spring. The spring shaved off a wee bit of the drag link, providing the
needed clearance."
Doesn't sound like something I'd like to have on my rig....
--From Bill's link----
Another steering solution, if you're willing to spend the dough on your stock
Dana 30 is from M.O.R.E. Basically the M.O.R.E. kit adds bracketry to the
Dana 30 so you can mount the axle end of the draglink above the springs.
This kit is pictured below. Not a cheap solution, but a very good one.
Anything else you might have overlooked??? better read the article again.....
Carl wrote:
>I followed Bill's link. The only issue encountered with SOA not encountered
>with spring-under is axle wrap. The added leaf does the trick for the most
>part. Adding a ladder bar will eliminate the axle wrap.
>
>I feel that going SOA is a huge advantage over spring-under simply because
>of the added clearance with moving the springs. I don't like my U-bolt ends
>and springs hanging out waiting to catch on anything and everything. As
>spring clearance wasn't enough, long springs on an spring-under
>configuration coupled with lift shackles point the shackles backwards or
>straight down. SOA points them away from the Jeep, keeping them out of
>harm's way.
>
>The RE spring-under lift 4.5" lift nets 4.5 - 5".
>
>Just springing over gives 5.5". Add the stock wrangler main leaf and short
>leaf, net 6.5-7".
>
>IMHO, upgrading an SUA suspension is a waste of money.
>
>>I don't know carl, I think you are ignoring alot of the other problems
>> associated with SOA. Especially if you were to follow and read Bill's
>[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
--
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http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200603/1
forget about the steering linkage problems associated with your SOA? I
didn't hear you mention anything about them.....there are none with the kit
from RE.....Add a 1" body lift and I have everything a SOA has without
welding or ladder bars or anything else.......without axle wrap.......and
I'll place my springs against a SOA for flexability anytime......ESPECIALLY
when you are adding leaf's and rearcing the stock one's.....sounds like a
whole lotta hassle......
"The only problem that I encountered was the drag link vs pass front spring
clearance. On a hard right turn, the drag link would sometimes graze the
spring. The spring shaved off a wee bit of the drag link, providing the
needed clearance."
Doesn't sound like something I'd like to have on my rig....
--From Bill's link----
Another steering solution, if you're willing to spend the dough on your stock
Dana 30 is from M.O.R.E. Basically the M.O.R.E. kit adds bracketry to the
Dana 30 so you can mount the axle end of the draglink above the springs.
This kit is pictured below. Not a cheap solution, but a very good one.
Anything else you might have overlooked??? better read the article again.....
Carl wrote:
>I followed Bill's link. The only issue encountered with SOA not encountered
>with spring-under is axle wrap. The added leaf does the trick for the most
>part. Adding a ladder bar will eliminate the axle wrap.
>
>I feel that going SOA is a huge advantage over spring-under simply because
>of the added clearance with moving the springs. I don't like my U-bolt ends
>and springs hanging out waiting to catch on anything and everything. As
>spring clearance wasn't enough, long springs on an spring-under
>configuration coupled with lift shackles point the shackles backwards or
>straight down. SOA points them away from the Jeep, keeping them out of
>harm's way.
>
>The RE spring-under lift 4.5" lift nets 4.5 - 5".
>
>Just springing over gives 5.5". Add the stock wrangler main leaf and short
>leaf, net 6.5-7".
>
>IMHO, upgrading an SUA suspension is a waste of money.
>
>>I don't know carl, I think you are ignoring alot of the other problems
>> associated with SOA. Especially if you were to follow and read Bill's
>[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
--
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03-22-2006, 11:18 PM
#20
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Posts: n/a
Re: Spring over questions
actually, the advertised 4.5" lift actually lifted my jeep 6.25". Did you
forget about the steering linkage problems associated with your SOA? I
didn't hear you mention anything about them.....there are none with the kit
from RE.....Add a 1" body lift and I have everything a SOA has without
welding or ladder bars or anything else.......without axle wrap.......and
I'll place my springs against a SOA for flexability anytime......ESPECIALLY
when you are adding leaf's and rearcing the stock one's.....sounds like a
whole lotta hassle......
"The only problem that I encountered was the drag link vs pass front spring
clearance. On a hard right turn, the drag link would sometimes graze the
spring. The spring shaved off a wee bit of the drag link, providing the
needed clearance."
Doesn't sound like something I'd like to have on my rig....
--From Bill's link----
Another steering solution, if you're willing to spend the dough on your stock
Dana 30 is from M.O.R.E. Basically the M.O.R.E. kit adds bracketry to the
Dana 30 so you can mount the axle end of the draglink above the springs.
This kit is pictured below. Not a cheap solution, but a very good one.
Anything else you might have overlooked??? better read the article again.....
Carl wrote:
>I followed Bill's link. The only issue encountered with SOA not encountered
>with spring-under is axle wrap. The added leaf does the trick for the most
>part. Adding a ladder bar will eliminate the axle wrap.
>
>I feel that going SOA is a huge advantage over spring-under simply because
>of the added clearance with moving the springs. I don't like my U-bolt ends
>and springs hanging out waiting to catch on anything and everything. As
>spring clearance wasn't enough, long springs on an spring-under
>configuration coupled with lift shackles point the shackles backwards or
>straight down. SOA points them away from the Jeep, keeping them out of
>harm's way.
>
>The RE spring-under lift 4.5" lift nets 4.5 - 5".
>
>Just springing over gives 5.5". Add the stock wrangler main leaf and short
>leaf, net 6.5-7".
>
>IMHO, upgrading an SUA suspension is a waste of money.
>
>>I don't know carl, I think you are ignoring alot of the other problems
>> associated with SOA. Especially if you were to follow and read Bill's
>[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
--
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http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200603/1
forget about the steering linkage problems associated with your SOA? I
didn't hear you mention anything about them.....there are none with the kit
from RE.....Add a 1" body lift and I have everything a SOA has without
welding or ladder bars or anything else.......without axle wrap.......and
I'll place my springs against a SOA for flexability anytime......ESPECIALLY
when you are adding leaf's and rearcing the stock one's.....sounds like a
whole lotta hassle......
"The only problem that I encountered was the drag link vs pass front spring
clearance. On a hard right turn, the drag link would sometimes graze the
spring. The spring shaved off a wee bit of the drag link, providing the
needed clearance."
Doesn't sound like something I'd like to have on my rig....
--From Bill's link----
Another steering solution, if you're willing to spend the dough on your stock
Dana 30 is from M.O.R.E. Basically the M.O.R.E. kit adds bracketry to the
Dana 30 so you can mount the axle end of the draglink above the springs.
This kit is pictured below. Not a cheap solution, but a very good one.
Anything else you might have overlooked??? better read the article again.....
Carl wrote:
>I followed Bill's link. The only issue encountered with SOA not encountered
>with spring-under is axle wrap. The added leaf does the trick for the most
>part. Adding a ladder bar will eliminate the axle wrap.
>
>I feel that going SOA is a huge advantage over spring-under simply because
>of the added clearance with moving the springs. I don't like my U-bolt ends
>and springs hanging out waiting to catch on anything and everything. As
>spring clearance wasn't enough, long springs on an spring-under
>configuration coupled with lift shackles point the shackles backwards or
>straight down. SOA points them away from the Jeep, keeping them out of
>harm's way.
>
>The RE spring-under lift 4.5" lift nets 4.5 - 5".
>
>Just springing over gives 5.5". Add the stock wrangler main leaf and short
>leaf, net 6.5-7".
>
>IMHO, upgrading an SUA suspension is a waste of money.
>
>>I don't know carl, I think you are ignoring alot of the other problems
>> associated with SOA. Especially if you were to follow and read Bill's
>[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
--
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