Speedo wrong, but is that all?
10-04-2003, 03:22 AM
#31
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Re: Speedo wrong, but is that all?
Live and learn. Here I've been thinking that the one piece axle came
in with the TJ - now I've got to revise my shopping list again, since
I'm looking for a SWB ride now. Took the wife back in the hills to
look at the leaves turning and she decided that both she and the dog
would really like it if I got something to supplement the MJ. I guess
we all win one sometime <g>.
On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 02:05:20 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> Man, you aren't going to be a happy camper when you open that front up.
>
> The 94's have a locked front axle setup, no vacuum or anything else to
> turn it on. You spin one wheel in the air, the driveshaft must turn....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> The Hurdy Gurdy Man wrote:
> >
> > I have what is clearly the world's worst news feed being that none of the
> > replies to my original post have shown up yet, but I can see on Google that
> > there have been quite a few. Thanks to all that have replied! Here's what
> > I've done and discovered so far, but it's raised a few more questions as a
> > result (isn't that always the way?).
> >
> > I put one rear tire up in the air, shifted into neutral, marked a spot on
> > the tire, spun it twice and counted the number of turns of the driveshaft.
> > This gave me about 3.08 ~ 3.10 turns for two tire rotations... accounting
> > for any slop in the process, I'm guessing this means I have 3.07 gears on
> > the rear. It's a 1994 with a 4.0L engine and a five speed manual
> > transmission, which I'm assuming is reasonable. So then I tried this same
> > procedure with the front, but... nothing. With one tire on the ground, one
> > in the air, and the various gear selectors moved into all kinds of different
> > positions (in gear, neutral, 2WD, 4WD, etc.) I couldn't get the driveshaft
> > to move while I turned the wheel. I don't see any sort of locking mechanism
> > on the wheel hubs, and the only tube running into the front differential
> > that seems like it migh control something on the inside seems to only be a
> > vent tube that runs up by the radiator, so I'm not sure what I'm missing
> > here... sometimes you can turn the driveshaft by hand and get a very slight
> > bit of movement in the wheel, but definitely nothing solid and absolutely
> > not the other way around. Is there some different trick I should be trying
> > here? I'm a stranger to the ways of 4WD, and my shop manual is still four
> > days out, so I'm at a loss for what to try next. It seems to me the lgoic
> > behind the procedure is sound, but then I could very well be overlooking
> > something critical.
> >
> > The speedometer is most decidedly an electronic one and not cable driven,
> > and presumably has been since the day it was born as the gauges have never
> > been changed. The tires are slightly larger than the originals, but that
> > was the case before the accident and the speedo offset due to that was a
> > fairly minor one. Certainly not the 15 or so MPH it's reading off now. I
> > see that quadratec.com sells a recalibration box, plus there's a bevy of
> > potential speedometer gear changes that can be done, so once I figure out
> > exactly why it's incorrect I'll make my next move. It is possible that some
> > portion of the drivetrain was swapped out during the repair, especially
> > considering how much cleaner the transmission is than various other parts of
> > the car... but that information is only suggestive of what happened, and not
> > conclusive.
> >
> > I'll get under there this weekend and pop out the current speedo gear to see
> > what it is. I don't want to pop open the front differential cover and
> > actually count gear teeth, but if that's the only solution then I will.
> > It's probably overdue for a fluid change anyhow. There's also a temptation
> > to just put the thing up on four stands and put it in gear to see what
> > happens... might be a faster way of figuring out what's up with the front
> > differential!
> >
> > Thanks again to everyone who has helped on this rather perplexing problem,
> > hopefully I'll be to the bottom of it soon.
> >
> > Bryan
--
Will Honea
in with the TJ - now I've got to revise my shopping list again, since
I'm looking for a SWB ride now. Took the wife back in the hills to
look at the leaves turning and she decided that both she and the dog
would really like it if I got something to supplement the MJ. I guess
we all win one sometime <g>.
On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 02:05:20 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> Man, you aren't going to be a happy camper when you open that front up.
>
> The 94's have a locked front axle setup, no vacuum or anything else to
> turn it on. You spin one wheel in the air, the driveshaft must turn....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> The Hurdy Gurdy Man wrote:
> >
> > I have what is clearly the world's worst news feed being that none of the
> > replies to my original post have shown up yet, but I can see on Google that
> > there have been quite a few. Thanks to all that have replied! Here's what
> > I've done and discovered so far, but it's raised a few more questions as a
> > result (isn't that always the way?).
> >
> > I put one rear tire up in the air, shifted into neutral, marked a spot on
> > the tire, spun it twice and counted the number of turns of the driveshaft.
> > This gave me about 3.08 ~ 3.10 turns for two tire rotations... accounting
> > for any slop in the process, I'm guessing this means I have 3.07 gears on
> > the rear. It's a 1994 with a 4.0L engine and a five speed manual
> > transmission, which I'm assuming is reasonable. So then I tried this same
> > procedure with the front, but... nothing. With one tire on the ground, one
> > in the air, and the various gear selectors moved into all kinds of different
> > positions (in gear, neutral, 2WD, 4WD, etc.) I couldn't get the driveshaft
> > to move while I turned the wheel. I don't see any sort of locking mechanism
> > on the wheel hubs, and the only tube running into the front differential
> > that seems like it migh control something on the inside seems to only be a
> > vent tube that runs up by the radiator, so I'm not sure what I'm missing
> > here... sometimes you can turn the driveshaft by hand and get a very slight
> > bit of movement in the wheel, but definitely nothing solid and absolutely
> > not the other way around. Is there some different trick I should be trying
> > here? I'm a stranger to the ways of 4WD, and my shop manual is still four
> > days out, so I'm at a loss for what to try next. It seems to me the lgoic
> > behind the procedure is sound, but then I could very well be overlooking
> > something critical.
> >
> > The speedometer is most decidedly an electronic one and not cable driven,
> > and presumably has been since the day it was born as the gauges have never
> > been changed. The tires are slightly larger than the originals, but that
> > was the case before the accident and the speedo offset due to that was a
> > fairly minor one. Certainly not the 15 or so MPH it's reading off now. I
> > see that quadratec.com sells a recalibration box, plus there's a bevy of
> > potential speedometer gear changes that can be done, so once I figure out
> > exactly why it's incorrect I'll make my next move. It is possible that some
> > portion of the drivetrain was swapped out during the repair, especially
> > considering how much cleaner the transmission is than various other parts of
> > the car... but that information is only suggestive of what happened, and not
> > conclusive.
> >
> > I'll get under there this weekend and pop out the current speedo gear to see
> > what it is. I don't want to pop open the front differential cover and
> > actually count gear teeth, but if that's the only solution then I will.
> > It's probably overdue for a fluid change anyhow. There's also a temptation
> > to just put the thing up on four stands and put it in gear to see what
> > happens... might be a faster way of figuring out what's up with the front
> > differential!
> >
> > Thanks again to everyone who has helped on this rather perplexing problem,
> > hopefully I'll be to the bottom of it soon.
> >
> > Bryan
--
Will Honea
10-04-2003, 03:22 AM
#32
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Posts: n/a
Re: Speedo wrong, but is that all?
Live and learn. Here I've been thinking that the one piece axle came
in with the TJ - now I've got to revise my shopping list again, since
I'm looking for a SWB ride now. Took the wife back in the hills to
look at the leaves turning and she decided that both she and the dog
would really like it if I got something to supplement the MJ. I guess
we all win one sometime <g>.
On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 02:05:20 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> Man, you aren't going to be a happy camper when you open that front up.
>
> The 94's have a locked front axle setup, no vacuum or anything else to
> turn it on. You spin one wheel in the air, the driveshaft must turn....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> The Hurdy Gurdy Man wrote:
> >
> > I have what is clearly the world's worst news feed being that none of the
> > replies to my original post have shown up yet, but I can see on Google that
> > there have been quite a few. Thanks to all that have replied! Here's what
> > I've done and discovered so far, but it's raised a few more questions as a
> > result (isn't that always the way?).
> >
> > I put one rear tire up in the air, shifted into neutral, marked a spot on
> > the tire, spun it twice and counted the number of turns of the driveshaft.
> > This gave me about 3.08 ~ 3.10 turns for two tire rotations... accounting
> > for any slop in the process, I'm guessing this means I have 3.07 gears on
> > the rear. It's a 1994 with a 4.0L engine and a five speed manual
> > transmission, which I'm assuming is reasonable. So then I tried this same
> > procedure with the front, but... nothing. With one tire on the ground, one
> > in the air, and the various gear selectors moved into all kinds of different
> > positions (in gear, neutral, 2WD, 4WD, etc.) I couldn't get the driveshaft
> > to move while I turned the wheel. I don't see any sort of locking mechanism
> > on the wheel hubs, and the only tube running into the front differential
> > that seems like it migh control something on the inside seems to only be a
> > vent tube that runs up by the radiator, so I'm not sure what I'm missing
> > here... sometimes you can turn the driveshaft by hand and get a very slight
> > bit of movement in the wheel, but definitely nothing solid and absolutely
> > not the other way around. Is there some different trick I should be trying
> > here? I'm a stranger to the ways of 4WD, and my shop manual is still four
> > days out, so I'm at a loss for what to try next. It seems to me the lgoic
> > behind the procedure is sound, but then I could very well be overlooking
> > something critical.
> >
> > The speedometer is most decidedly an electronic one and not cable driven,
> > and presumably has been since the day it was born as the gauges have never
> > been changed. The tires are slightly larger than the originals, but that
> > was the case before the accident and the speedo offset due to that was a
> > fairly minor one. Certainly not the 15 or so MPH it's reading off now. I
> > see that quadratec.com sells a recalibration box, plus there's a bevy of
> > potential speedometer gear changes that can be done, so once I figure out
> > exactly why it's incorrect I'll make my next move. It is possible that some
> > portion of the drivetrain was swapped out during the repair, especially
> > considering how much cleaner the transmission is than various other parts of
> > the car... but that information is only suggestive of what happened, and not
> > conclusive.
> >
> > I'll get under there this weekend and pop out the current speedo gear to see
> > what it is. I don't want to pop open the front differential cover and
> > actually count gear teeth, but if that's the only solution then I will.
> > It's probably overdue for a fluid change anyhow. There's also a temptation
> > to just put the thing up on four stands and put it in gear to see what
> > happens... might be a faster way of figuring out what's up with the front
> > differential!
> >
> > Thanks again to everyone who has helped on this rather perplexing problem,
> > hopefully I'll be to the bottom of it soon.
> >
> > Bryan
--
Will Honea
in with the TJ - now I've got to revise my shopping list again, since
I'm looking for a SWB ride now. Took the wife back in the hills to
look at the leaves turning and she decided that both she and the dog
would really like it if I got something to supplement the MJ. I guess
we all win one sometime <g>.
On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 02:05:20 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> Man, you aren't going to be a happy camper when you open that front up.
>
> The 94's have a locked front axle setup, no vacuum or anything else to
> turn it on. You spin one wheel in the air, the driveshaft must turn....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> The Hurdy Gurdy Man wrote:
> >
> > I have what is clearly the world's worst news feed being that none of the
> > replies to my original post have shown up yet, but I can see on Google that
> > there have been quite a few. Thanks to all that have replied! Here's what
> > I've done and discovered so far, but it's raised a few more questions as a
> > result (isn't that always the way?).
> >
> > I put one rear tire up in the air, shifted into neutral, marked a spot on
> > the tire, spun it twice and counted the number of turns of the driveshaft.
> > This gave me about 3.08 ~ 3.10 turns for two tire rotations... accounting
> > for any slop in the process, I'm guessing this means I have 3.07 gears on
> > the rear. It's a 1994 with a 4.0L engine and a five speed manual
> > transmission, which I'm assuming is reasonable. So then I tried this same
> > procedure with the front, but... nothing. With one tire on the ground, one
> > in the air, and the various gear selectors moved into all kinds of different
> > positions (in gear, neutral, 2WD, 4WD, etc.) I couldn't get the driveshaft
> > to move while I turned the wheel. I don't see any sort of locking mechanism
> > on the wheel hubs, and the only tube running into the front differential
> > that seems like it migh control something on the inside seems to only be a
> > vent tube that runs up by the radiator, so I'm not sure what I'm missing
> > here... sometimes you can turn the driveshaft by hand and get a very slight
> > bit of movement in the wheel, but definitely nothing solid and absolutely
> > not the other way around. Is there some different trick I should be trying
> > here? I'm a stranger to the ways of 4WD, and my shop manual is still four
> > days out, so I'm at a loss for what to try next. It seems to me the lgoic
> > behind the procedure is sound, but then I could very well be overlooking
> > something critical.
> >
> > The speedometer is most decidedly an electronic one and not cable driven,
> > and presumably has been since the day it was born as the gauges have never
> > been changed. The tires are slightly larger than the originals, but that
> > was the case before the accident and the speedo offset due to that was a
> > fairly minor one. Certainly not the 15 or so MPH it's reading off now. I
> > see that quadratec.com sells a recalibration box, plus there's a bevy of
> > potential speedometer gear changes that can be done, so once I figure out
> > exactly why it's incorrect I'll make my next move. It is possible that some
> > portion of the drivetrain was swapped out during the repair, especially
> > considering how much cleaner the transmission is than various other parts of
> > the car... but that information is only suggestive of what happened, and not
> > conclusive.
> >
> > I'll get under there this weekend and pop out the current speedo gear to see
> > what it is. I don't want to pop open the front differential cover and
> > actually count gear teeth, but if that's the only solution then I will.
> > It's probably overdue for a fluid change anyhow. There's also a temptation
> > to just put the thing up on four stands and put it in gear to see what
> > happens... might be a faster way of figuring out what's up with the front
> > differential!
> >
> > Thanks again to everyone who has helped on this rather perplexing problem,
> > hopefully I'll be to the bottom of it soon.
> >
> > Bryan
--
Will Honea
10-04-2003, 03:22 AM
#33
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Speedo wrong, but is that all?
Live and learn. Here I've been thinking that the one piece axle came
in with the TJ - now I've got to revise my shopping list again, since
I'm looking for a SWB ride now. Took the wife back in the hills to
look at the leaves turning and she decided that both she and the dog
would really like it if I got something to supplement the MJ. I guess
we all win one sometime <g>.
On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 02:05:20 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> Man, you aren't going to be a happy camper when you open that front up.
>
> The 94's have a locked front axle setup, no vacuum or anything else to
> turn it on. You spin one wheel in the air, the driveshaft must turn....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> The Hurdy Gurdy Man wrote:
> >
> > I have what is clearly the world's worst news feed being that none of the
> > replies to my original post have shown up yet, but I can see on Google that
> > there have been quite a few. Thanks to all that have replied! Here's what
> > I've done and discovered so far, but it's raised a few more questions as a
> > result (isn't that always the way?).
> >
> > I put one rear tire up in the air, shifted into neutral, marked a spot on
> > the tire, spun it twice and counted the number of turns of the driveshaft.
> > This gave me about 3.08 ~ 3.10 turns for two tire rotations... accounting
> > for any slop in the process, I'm guessing this means I have 3.07 gears on
> > the rear. It's a 1994 with a 4.0L engine and a five speed manual
> > transmission, which I'm assuming is reasonable. So then I tried this same
> > procedure with the front, but... nothing. With one tire on the ground, one
> > in the air, and the various gear selectors moved into all kinds of different
> > positions (in gear, neutral, 2WD, 4WD, etc.) I couldn't get the driveshaft
> > to move while I turned the wheel. I don't see any sort of locking mechanism
> > on the wheel hubs, and the only tube running into the front differential
> > that seems like it migh control something on the inside seems to only be a
> > vent tube that runs up by the radiator, so I'm not sure what I'm missing
> > here... sometimes you can turn the driveshaft by hand and get a very slight
> > bit of movement in the wheel, but definitely nothing solid and absolutely
> > not the other way around. Is there some different trick I should be trying
> > here? I'm a stranger to the ways of 4WD, and my shop manual is still four
> > days out, so I'm at a loss for what to try next. It seems to me the lgoic
> > behind the procedure is sound, but then I could very well be overlooking
> > something critical.
> >
> > The speedometer is most decidedly an electronic one and not cable driven,
> > and presumably has been since the day it was born as the gauges have never
> > been changed. The tires are slightly larger than the originals, but that
> > was the case before the accident and the speedo offset due to that was a
> > fairly minor one. Certainly not the 15 or so MPH it's reading off now. I
> > see that quadratec.com sells a recalibration box, plus there's a bevy of
> > potential speedometer gear changes that can be done, so once I figure out
> > exactly why it's incorrect I'll make my next move. It is possible that some
> > portion of the drivetrain was swapped out during the repair, especially
> > considering how much cleaner the transmission is than various other parts of
> > the car... but that information is only suggestive of what happened, and not
> > conclusive.
> >
> > I'll get under there this weekend and pop out the current speedo gear to see
> > what it is. I don't want to pop open the front differential cover and
> > actually count gear teeth, but if that's the only solution then I will.
> > It's probably overdue for a fluid change anyhow. There's also a temptation
> > to just put the thing up on four stands and put it in gear to see what
> > happens... might be a faster way of figuring out what's up with the front
> > differential!
> >
> > Thanks again to everyone who has helped on this rather perplexing problem,
> > hopefully I'll be to the bottom of it soon.
> >
> > Bryan
--
Will Honea
in with the TJ - now I've got to revise my shopping list again, since
I'm looking for a SWB ride now. Took the wife back in the hills to
look at the leaves turning and she decided that both she and the dog
would really like it if I got something to supplement the MJ. I guess
we all win one sometime <g>.
On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 02:05:20 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> Man, you aren't going to be a happy camper when you open that front up.
>
> The 94's have a locked front axle setup, no vacuum or anything else to
> turn it on. You spin one wheel in the air, the driveshaft must turn....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> The Hurdy Gurdy Man wrote:
> >
> > I have what is clearly the world's worst news feed being that none of the
> > replies to my original post have shown up yet, but I can see on Google that
> > there have been quite a few. Thanks to all that have replied! Here's what
> > I've done and discovered so far, but it's raised a few more questions as a
> > result (isn't that always the way?).
> >
> > I put one rear tire up in the air, shifted into neutral, marked a spot on
> > the tire, spun it twice and counted the number of turns of the driveshaft.
> > This gave me about 3.08 ~ 3.10 turns for two tire rotations... accounting
> > for any slop in the process, I'm guessing this means I have 3.07 gears on
> > the rear. It's a 1994 with a 4.0L engine and a five speed manual
> > transmission, which I'm assuming is reasonable. So then I tried this same
> > procedure with the front, but... nothing. With one tire on the ground, one
> > in the air, and the various gear selectors moved into all kinds of different
> > positions (in gear, neutral, 2WD, 4WD, etc.) I couldn't get the driveshaft
> > to move while I turned the wheel. I don't see any sort of locking mechanism
> > on the wheel hubs, and the only tube running into the front differential
> > that seems like it migh control something on the inside seems to only be a
> > vent tube that runs up by the radiator, so I'm not sure what I'm missing
> > here... sometimes you can turn the driveshaft by hand and get a very slight
> > bit of movement in the wheel, but definitely nothing solid and absolutely
> > not the other way around. Is there some different trick I should be trying
> > here? I'm a stranger to the ways of 4WD, and my shop manual is still four
> > days out, so I'm at a loss for what to try next. It seems to me the lgoic
> > behind the procedure is sound, but then I could very well be overlooking
> > something critical.
> >
> > The speedometer is most decidedly an electronic one and not cable driven,
> > and presumably has been since the day it was born as the gauges have never
> > been changed. The tires are slightly larger than the originals, but that
> > was the case before the accident and the speedo offset due to that was a
> > fairly minor one. Certainly not the 15 or so MPH it's reading off now. I
> > see that quadratec.com sells a recalibration box, plus there's a bevy of
> > potential speedometer gear changes that can be done, so once I figure out
> > exactly why it's incorrect I'll make my next move. It is possible that some
> > portion of the drivetrain was swapped out during the repair, especially
> > considering how much cleaner the transmission is than various other parts of
> > the car... but that information is only suggestive of what happened, and not
> > conclusive.
> >
> > I'll get under there this weekend and pop out the current speedo gear to see
> > what it is. I don't want to pop open the front differential cover and
> > actually count gear teeth, but if that's the only solution then I will.
> > It's probably overdue for a fluid change anyhow. There's also a temptation
> > to just put the thing up on four stands and put it in gear to see what
> > happens... might be a faster way of figuring out what's up with the front
> > differential!
> >
> > Thanks again to everyone who has helped on this rather perplexing problem,
> > hopefully I'll be to the bottom of it soon.
> >
> > Bryan
--
Will Honea
10-04-2003, 03:42 AM
#34
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Re: Speedo wrong, but is that all?
I think I was mistaken...
Mike
Will Honea wrote:
>
> Live and learn. Here I've been thinking that the one piece axle came
> in with the TJ - now I've got to revise my shopping list again, since
> I'm looking for a SWB ride now. Took the wife back in the hills to
> look at the leaves turning and she decided that both she and the dog
> would really like it if I got something to supplement the MJ. I guess
> we all win one sometime <g>.
>
> On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 02:05:20 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > Man, you aren't going to be a happy camper when you open that front up.
> >
> > The 94's have a locked front axle setup, no vacuum or anything else to
> > turn it on. You spin one wheel in the air, the driveshaft must turn....
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > The Hurdy Gurdy Man wrote:
> > >
> > > I have what is clearly the world's worst news feed being that none of the
> > > replies to my original post have shown up yet, but I can see on Google that
> > > there have been quite a few. Thanks to all that have replied! Here's what
> > > I've done and discovered so far, but it's raised a few more questions as a
> > > result (isn't that always the way?).
> > >
> > > I put one rear tire up in the air, shifted into neutral, marked a spot on
> > > the tire, spun it twice and counted the number of turns of the driveshaft.
> > > This gave me about 3.08 ~ 3.10 turns for two tire rotations... accounting
> > > for any slop in the process, I'm guessing this means I have 3.07 gears on
> > > the rear. It's a 1994 with a 4.0L engine and a five speed manual
> > > transmission, which I'm assuming is reasonable. So then I tried this same
> > > procedure with the front, but... nothing. With one tire on the ground, one
> > > in the air, and the various gear selectors moved into all kinds of different
> > > positions (in gear, neutral, 2WD, 4WD, etc.) I couldn't get the driveshaft
> > > to move while I turned the wheel. I don't see any sort of locking mechanism
> > > on the wheel hubs, and the only tube running into the front differential
> > > that seems like it migh control something on the inside seems to only be a
> > > vent tube that runs up by the radiator, so I'm not sure what I'm missing
> > > here... sometimes you can turn the driveshaft by hand and get a very slight
> > > bit of movement in the wheel, but definitely nothing solid and absolutely
> > > not the other way around. Is there some different trick I should be trying
> > > here? I'm a stranger to the ways of 4WD, and my shop manual is still four
> > > days out, so I'm at a loss for what to try next. It seems to me the lgoic
> > > behind the procedure is sound, but then I could very well be overlooking
> > > something critical.
> > >
> > > The speedometer is most decidedly an electronic one and not cable driven,
> > > and presumably has been since the day it was born as the gauges have never
> > > been changed. The tires are slightly larger than the originals, but that
> > > was the case before the accident and the speedo offset due to that was a
> > > fairly minor one. Certainly not the 15 or so MPH it's reading off now. I
> > > see that quadratec.com sells a recalibration box, plus there's a bevy of
> > > potential speedometer gear changes that can be done, so once I figure out
> > > exactly why it's incorrect I'll make my next move. It is possible that some
> > > portion of the drivetrain was swapped out during the repair, especially
> > > considering how much cleaner the transmission is than various other parts of
> > > the car... but that information is only suggestive of what happened, and not
> > > conclusive.
> > >
> > > I'll get under there this weekend and pop out the current speedo gear to see
> > > what it is. I don't want to pop open the front differential cover and
> > > actually count gear teeth, but if that's the only solution then I will.
> > > It's probably overdue for a fluid change anyhow. There's also a temptation
> > > to just put the thing up on four stands and put it in gear to see what
> > > happens... might be a faster way of figuring out what's up with the front
> > > differential!
> > >
> > > Thanks again to everyone who has helped on this rather perplexing problem,
> > > hopefully I'll be to the bottom of it soon.
> > >
> > > Bryan
>
> --
> Will Honea
Mike
Will Honea wrote:
>
> Live and learn. Here I've been thinking that the one piece axle came
> in with the TJ - now I've got to revise my shopping list again, since
> I'm looking for a SWB ride now. Took the wife back in the hills to
> look at the leaves turning and she decided that both she and the dog
> would really like it if I got something to supplement the MJ. I guess
> we all win one sometime <g>.
>
> On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 02:05:20 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > Man, you aren't going to be a happy camper when you open that front up.
> >
> > The 94's have a locked front axle setup, no vacuum or anything else to
> > turn it on. You spin one wheel in the air, the driveshaft must turn....
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > The Hurdy Gurdy Man wrote:
> > >
> > > I have what is clearly the world's worst news feed being that none of the
> > > replies to my original post have shown up yet, but I can see on Google that
> > > there have been quite a few. Thanks to all that have replied! Here's what
> > > I've done and discovered so far, but it's raised a few more questions as a
> > > result (isn't that always the way?).
> > >
> > > I put one rear tire up in the air, shifted into neutral, marked a spot on
> > > the tire, spun it twice and counted the number of turns of the driveshaft.
> > > This gave me about 3.08 ~ 3.10 turns for two tire rotations... accounting
> > > for any slop in the process, I'm guessing this means I have 3.07 gears on
> > > the rear. It's a 1994 with a 4.0L engine and a five speed manual
> > > transmission, which I'm assuming is reasonable. So then I tried this same
> > > procedure with the front, but... nothing. With one tire on the ground, one
> > > in the air, and the various gear selectors moved into all kinds of different
> > > positions (in gear, neutral, 2WD, 4WD, etc.) I couldn't get the driveshaft
> > > to move while I turned the wheel. I don't see any sort of locking mechanism
> > > on the wheel hubs, and the only tube running into the front differential
> > > that seems like it migh control something on the inside seems to only be a
> > > vent tube that runs up by the radiator, so I'm not sure what I'm missing
> > > here... sometimes you can turn the driveshaft by hand and get a very slight
> > > bit of movement in the wheel, but definitely nothing solid and absolutely
> > > not the other way around. Is there some different trick I should be trying
> > > here? I'm a stranger to the ways of 4WD, and my shop manual is still four
> > > days out, so I'm at a loss for what to try next. It seems to me the lgoic
> > > behind the procedure is sound, but then I could very well be overlooking
> > > something critical.
> > >
> > > The speedometer is most decidedly an electronic one and not cable driven,
> > > and presumably has been since the day it was born as the gauges have never
> > > been changed. The tires are slightly larger than the originals, but that
> > > was the case before the accident and the speedo offset due to that was a
> > > fairly minor one. Certainly not the 15 or so MPH it's reading off now. I
> > > see that quadratec.com sells a recalibration box, plus there's a bevy of
> > > potential speedometer gear changes that can be done, so once I figure out
> > > exactly why it's incorrect I'll make my next move. It is possible that some
> > > portion of the drivetrain was swapped out during the repair, especially
> > > considering how much cleaner the transmission is than various other parts of
> > > the car... but that information is only suggestive of what happened, and not
> > > conclusive.
> > >
> > > I'll get under there this weekend and pop out the current speedo gear to see
> > > what it is. I don't want to pop open the front differential cover and
> > > actually count gear teeth, but if that's the only solution then I will.
> > > It's probably overdue for a fluid change anyhow. There's also a temptation
> > > to just put the thing up on four stands and put it in gear to see what
> > > happens... might be a faster way of figuring out what's up with the front
> > > differential!
> > >
> > > Thanks again to everyone who has helped on this rather perplexing problem,
> > > hopefully I'll be to the bottom of it soon.
> > >
> > > Bryan
>
> --
> Will Honea
10-04-2003, 03:42 AM
#35
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Speedo wrong, but is that all?
I think I was mistaken...
Mike
Will Honea wrote:
>
> Live and learn. Here I've been thinking that the one piece axle came
> in with the TJ - now I've got to revise my shopping list again, since
> I'm looking for a SWB ride now. Took the wife back in the hills to
> look at the leaves turning and she decided that both she and the dog
> would really like it if I got something to supplement the MJ. I guess
> we all win one sometime <g>.
>
> On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 02:05:20 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > Man, you aren't going to be a happy camper when you open that front up.
> >
> > The 94's have a locked front axle setup, no vacuum or anything else to
> > turn it on. You spin one wheel in the air, the driveshaft must turn....
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > The Hurdy Gurdy Man wrote:
> > >
> > > I have what is clearly the world's worst news feed being that none of the
> > > replies to my original post have shown up yet, but I can see on Google that
> > > there have been quite a few. Thanks to all that have replied! Here's what
> > > I've done and discovered so far, but it's raised a few more questions as a
> > > result (isn't that always the way?).
> > >
> > > I put one rear tire up in the air, shifted into neutral, marked a spot on
> > > the tire, spun it twice and counted the number of turns of the driveshaft.
> > > This gave me about 3.08 ~ 3.10 turns for two tire rotations... accounting
> > > for any slop in the process, I'm guessing this means I have 3.07 gears on
> > > the rear. It's a 1994 with a 4.0L engine and a five speed manual
> > > transmission, which I'm assuming is reasonable. So then I tried this same
> > > procedure with the front, but... nothing. With one tire on the ground, one
> > > in the air, and the various gear selectors moved into all kinds of different
> > > positions (in gear, neutral, 2WD, 4WD, etc.) I couldn't get the driveshaft
> > > to move while I turned the wheel. I don't see any sort of locking mechanism
> > > on the wheel hubs, and the only tube running into the front differential
> > > that seems like it migh control something on the inside seems to only be a
> > > vent tube that runs up by the radiator, so I'm not sure what I'm missing
> > > here... sometimes you can turn the driveshaft by hand and get a very slight
> > > bit of movement in the wheel, but definitely nothing solid and absolutely
> > > not the other way around. Is there some different trick I should be trying
> > > here? I'm a stranger to the ways of 4WD, and my shop manual is still four
> > > days out, so I'm at a loss for what to try next. It seems to me the lgoic
> > > behind the procedure is sound, but then I could very well be overlooking
> > > something critical.
> > >
> > > The speedometer is most decidedly an electronic one and not cable driven,
> > > and presumably has been since the day it was born as the gauges have never
> > > been changed. The tires are slightly larger than the originals, but that
> > > was the case before the accident and the speedo offset due to that was a
> > > fairly minor one. Certainly not the 15 or so MPH it's reading off now. I
> > > see that quadratec.com sells a recalibration box, plus there's a bevy of
> > > potential speedometer gear changes that can be done, so once I figure out
> > > exactly why it's incorrect I'll make my next move. It is possible that some
> > > portion of the drivetrain was swapped out during the repair, especially
> > > considering how much cleaner the transmission is than various other parts of
> > > the car... but that information is only suggestive of what happened, and not
> > > conclusive.
> > >
> > > I'll get under there this weekend and pop out the current speedo gear to see
> > > what it is. I don't want to pop open the front differential cover and
> > > actually count gear teeth, but if that's the only solution then I will.
> > > It's probably overdue for a fluid change anyhow. There's also a temptation
> > > to just put the thing up on four stands and put it in gear to see what
> > > happens... might be a faster way of figuring out what's up with the front
> > > differential!
> > >
> > > Thanks again to everyone who has helped on this rather perplexing problem,
> > > hopefully I'll be to the bottom of it soon.
> > >
> > > Bryan
>
> --
> Will Honea
Mike
Will Honea wrote:
>
> Live and learn. Here I've been thinking that the one piece axle came
> in with the TJ - now I've got to revise my shopping list again, since
> I'm looking for a SWB ride now. Took the wife back in the hills to
> look at the leaves turning and she decided that both she and the dog
> would really like it if I got something to supplement the MJ. I guess
> we all win one sometime <g>.
>
> On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 02:05:20 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > Man, you aren't going to be a happy camper when you open that front up.
> >
> > The 94's have a locked front axle setup, no vacuum or anything else to
> > turn it on. You spin one wheel in the air, the driveshaft must turn....
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > The Hurdy Gurdy Man wrote:
> > >
> > > I have what is clearly the world's worst news feed being that none of the
> > > replies to my original post have shown up yet, but I can see on Google that
> > > there have been quite a few. Thanks to all that have replied! Here's what
> > > I've done and discovered so far, but it's raised a few more questions as a
> > > result (isn't that always the way?).
> > >
> > > I put one rear tire up in the air, shifted into neutral, marked a spot on
> > > the tire, spun it twice and counted the number of turns of the driveshaft.
> > > This gave me about 3.08 ~ 3.10 turns for two tire rotations... accounting
> > > for any slop in the process, I'm guessing this means I have 3.07 gears on
> > > the rear. It's a 1994 with a 4.0L engine and a five speed manual
> > > transmission, which I'm assuming is reasonable. So then I tried this same
> > > procedure with the front, but... nothing. With one tire on the ground, one
> > > in the air, and the various gear selectors moved into all kinds of different
> > > positions (in gear, neutral, 2WD, 4WD, etc.) I couldn't get the driveshaft
> > > to move while I turned the wheel. I don't see any sort of locking mechanism
> > > on the wheel hubs, and the only tube running into the front differential
> > > that seems like it migh control something on the inside seems to only be a
> > > vent tube that runs up by the radiator, so I'm not sure what I'm missing
> > > here... sometimes you can turn the driveshaft by hand and get a very slight
> > > bit of movement in the wheel, but definitely nothing solid and absolutely
> > > not the other way around. Is there some different trick I should be trying
> > > here? I'm a stranger to the ways of 4WD, and my shop manual is still four
> > > days out, so I'm at a loss for what to try next. It seems to me the lgoic
> > > behind the procedure is sound, but then I could very well be overlooking
> > > something critical.
> > >
> > > The speedometer is most decidedly an electronic one and not cable driven,
> > > and presumably has been since the day it was born as the gauges have never
> > > been changed. The tires are slightly larger than the originals, but that
> > > was the case before the accident and the speedo offset due to that was a
> > > fairly minor one. Certainly not the 15 or so MPH it's reading off now. I
> > > see that quadratec.com sells a recalibration box, plus there's a bevy of
> > > potential speedometer gear changes that can be done, so once I figure out
> > > exactly why it's incorrect I'll make my next move. It is possible that some
> > > portion of the drivetrain was swapped out during the repair, especially
> > > considering how much cleaner the transmission is than various other parts of
> > > the car... but that information is only suggestive of what happened, and not
> > > conclusive.
> > >
> > > I'll get under there this weekend and pop out the current speedo gear to see
> > > what it is. I don't want to pop open the front differential cover and
> > > actually count gear teeth, but if that's the only solution then I will.
> > > It's probably overdue for a fluid change anyhow. There's also a temptation
> > > to just put the thing up on four stands and put it in gear to see what
> > > happens... might be a faster way of figuring out what's up with the front
> > > differential!
> > >
> > > Thanks again to everyone who has helped on this rather perplexing problem,
> > > hopefully I'll be to the bottom of it soon.
> > >
> > > Bryan
>
> --
> Will Honea
10-04-2003, 03:42 AM
#36
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Speedo wrong, but is that all?
I think I was mistaken...
Mike
Will Honea wrote:
>
> Live and learn. Here I've been thinking that the one piece axle came
> in with the TJ - now I've got to revise my shopping list again, since
> I'm looking for a SWB ride now. Took the wife back in the hills to
> look at the leaves turning and she decided that both she and the dog
> would really like it if I got something to supplement the MJ. I guess
> we all win one sometime <g>.
>
> On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 02:05:20 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > Man, you aren't going to be a happy camper when you open that front up.
> >
> > The 94's have a locked front axle setup, no vacuum or anything else to
> > turn it on. You spin one wheel in the air, the driveshaft must turn....
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > The Hurdy Gurdy Man wrote:
> > >
> > > I have what is clearly the world's worst news feed being that none of the
> > > replies to my original post have shown up yet, but I can see on Google that
> > > there have been quite a few. Thanks to all that have replied! Here's what
> > > I've done and discovered so far, but it's raised a few more questions as a
> > > result (isn't that always the way?).
> > >
> > > I put one rear tire up in the air, shifted into neutral, marked a spot on
> > > the tire, spun it twice and counted the number of turns of the driveshaft.
> > > This gave me about 3.08 ~ 3.10 turns for two tire rotations... accounting
> > > for any slop in the process, I'm guessing this means I have 3.07 gears on
> > > the rear. It's a 1994 with a 4.0L engine and a five speed manual
> > > transmission, which I'm assuming is reasonable. So then I tried this same
> > > procedure with the front, but... nothing. With one tire on the ground, one
> > > in the air, and the various gear selectors moved into all kinds of different
> > > positions (in gear, neutral, 2WD, 4WD, etc.) I couldn't get the driveshaft
> > > to move while I turned the wheel. I don't see any sort of locking mechanism
> > > on the wheel hubs, and the only tube running into the front differential
> > > that seems like it migh control something on the inside seems to only be a
> > > vent tube that runs up by the radiator, so I'm not sure what I'm missing
> > > here... sometimes you can turn the driveshaft by hand and get a very slight
> > > bit of movement in the wheel, but definitely nothing solid and absolutely
> > > not the other way around. Is there some different trick I should be trying
> > > here? I'm a stranger to the ways of 4WD, and my shop manual is still four
> > > days out, so I'm at a loss for what to try next. It seems to me the lgoic
> > > behind the procedure is sound, but then I could very well be overlooking
> > > something critical.
> > >
> > > The speedometer is most decidedly an electronic one and not cable driven,
> > > and presumably has been since the day it was born as the gauges have never
> > > been changed. The tires are slightly larger than the originals, but that
> > > was the case before the accident and the speedo offset due to that was a
> > > fairly minor one. Certainly not the 15 or so MPH it's reading off now. I
> > > see that quadratec.com sells a recalibration box, plus there's a bevy of
> > > potential speedometer gear changes that can be done, so once I figure out
> > > exactly why it's incorrect I'll make my next move. It is possible that some
> > > portion of the drivetrain was swapped out during the repair, especially
> > > considering how much cleaner the transmission is than various other parts of
> > > the car... but that information is only suggestive of what happened, and not
> > > conclusive.
> > >
> > > I'll get under there this weekend and pop out the current speedo gear to see
> > > what it is. I don't want to pop open the front differential cover and
> > > actually count gear teeth, but if that's the only solution then I will.
> > > It's probably overdue for a fluid change anyhow. There's also a temptation
> > > to just put the thing up on four stands and put it in gear to see what
> > > happens... might be a faster way of figuring out what's up with the front
> > > differential!
> > >
> > > Thanks again to everyone who has helped on this rather perplexing problem,
> > > hopefully I'll be to the bottom of it soon.
> > >
> > > Bryan
>
> --
> Will Honea
Mike
Will Honea wrote:
>
> Live and learn. Here I've been thinking that the one piece axle came
> in with the TJ - now I've got to revise my shopping list again, since
> I'm looking for a SWB ride now. Took the wife back in the hills to
> look at the leaves turning and she decided that both she and the dog
> would really like it if I got something to supplement the MJ. I guess
> we all win one sometime <g>.
>
> On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 02:05:20 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > Man, you aren't going to be a happy camper when you open that front up.
> >
> > The 94's have a locked front axle setup, no vacuum or anything else to
> > turn it on. You spin one wheel in the air, the driveshaft must turn....
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > The Hurdy Gurdy Man wrote:
> > >
> > > I have what is clearly the world's worst news feed being that none of the
> > > replies to my original post have shown up yet, but I can see on Google that
> > > there have been quite a few. Thanks to all that have replied! Here's what
> > > I've done and discovered so far, but it's raised a few more questions as a
> > > result (isn't that always the way?).
> > >
> > > I put one rear tire up in the air, shifted into neutral, marked a spot on
> > > the tire, spun it twice and counted the number of turns of the driveshaft.
> > > This gave me about 3.08 ~ 3.10 turns for two tire rotations... accounting
> > > for any slop in the process, I'm guessing this means I have 3.07 gears on
> > > the rear. It's a 1994 with a 4.0L engine and a five speed manual
> > > transmission, which I'm assuming is reasonable. So then I tried this same
> > > procedure with the front, but... nothing. With one tire on the ground, one
> > > in the air, and the various gear selectors moved into all kinds of different
> > > positions (in gear, neutral, 2WD, 4WD, etc.) I couldn't get the driveshaft
> > > to move while I turned the wheel. I don't see any sort of locking mechanism
> > > on the wheel hubs, and the only tube running into the front differential
> > > that seems like it migh control something on the inside seems to only be a
> > > vent tube that runs up by the radiator, so I'm not sure what I'm missing
> > > here... sometimes you can turn the driveshaft by hand and get a very slight
> > > bit of movement in the wheel, but definitely nothing solid and absolutely
> > > not the other way around. Is there some different trick I should be trying
> > > here? I'm a stranger to the ways of 4WD, and my shop manual is still four
> > > days out, so I'm at a loss for what to try next. It seems to me the lgoic
> > > behind the procedure is sound, but then I could very well be overlooking
> > > something critical.
> > >
> > > The speedometer is most decidedly an electronic one and not cable driven,
> > > and presumably has been since the day it was born as the gauges have never
> > > been changed. The tires are slightly larger than the originals, but that
> > > was the case before the accident and the speedo offset due to that was a
> > > fairly minor one. Certainly not the 15 or so MPH it's reading off now. I
> > > see that quadratec.com sells a recalibration box, plus there's a bevy of
> > > potential speedometer gear changes that can be done, so once I figure out
> > > exactly why it's incorrect I'll make my next move. It is possible that some
> > > portion of the drivetrain was swapped out during the repair, especially
> > > considering how much cleaner the transmission is than various other parts of
> > > the car... but that information is only suggestive of what happened, and not
> > > conclusive.
> > >
> > > I'll get under there this weekend and pop out the current speedo gear to see
> > > what it is. I don't want to pop open the front differential cover and
> > > actually count gear teeth, but if that's the only solution then I will.
> > > It's probably overdue for a fluid change anyhow. There's also a temptation
> > > to just put the thing up on four stands and put it in gear to see what
> > > happens... might be a faster way of figuring out what's up with the front
> > > differential!
> > >
> > > Thanks again to everyone who has helped on this rather perplexing problem,
> > > hopefully I'll be to the bottom of it soon.
> > >
> > > Bryan
>
> --
> Will Honea
10-04-2003, 01:01 PM
#37
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Speedo wrong, but is that all?
And have the engine running while jacked up, which a lot people
would feel uneasy about.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Up to a 95 has the vacuum disconnect?
>
> Ok, he just needs to put it in 4x4 and drive it a couple feet to click
> it in then first.
>
> Mike
would feel uneasy about.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Up to a 95 has the vacuum disconnect?
>
> Ok, he just needs to put it in 4x4 and drive it a couple feet to click
> it in then first.
>
> Mike
10-04-2003, 01:01 PM
#38
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Speedo wrong, but is that all?
And have the engine running while jacked up, which a lot people
would feel uneasy about.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Up to a 95 has the vacuum disconnect?
>
> Ok, he just needs to put it in 4x4 and drive it a couple feet to click
> it in then first.
>
> Mike
would feel uneasy about.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Up to a 95 has the vacuum disconnect?
>
> Ok, he just needs to put it in 4x4 and drive it a couple feet to click
> it in then first.
>
> Mike
10-04-2003, 01:01 PM
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Speedo wrong, but is that all?
And have the engine running while jacked up, which a lot people
would feel uneasy about.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Up to a 95 has the vacuum disconnect?
>
> Ok, he just needs to put it in 4x4 and drive it a couple feet to click
> it in then first.
>
> Mike
would feel uneasy about.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Up to a 95 has the vacuum disconnect?
>
> Ok, he just needs to put it in 4x4 and drive it a couple feet to click
> it in then first.
>
> Mike
10-05-2003, 12:43 AM
#40
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Re: Speedo wrong, but is that all?
L.W.(?ill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
> You have a YJ and the axle is disconnected because there is no
> vacuum in the diagram controlling that lever.
Ah, that would explain it... I had been looking at the differential housing
itself for a clue instead of outside on the axle tubes... plus I was looking
from the front, so I didn't see that vacuum motor-ish thingy hiding away.
So I jacked up one wheel, started the car, and put it into 4WD... this
seemed to do the trick, I was able to spin the wheel and subsequently rotate
the driveshaft. Two turns of the wheel and I got a 3.07 ratio, which is
excellent news for me. Thanks again to everyone who helped me sort this
out!
I still need to yank the current speedo gear and see what's up with that,
but if that's why it's wrong I have to wonder how the wrong gear got put in
there. If they swapped in a new transfer case and/or transmission, I hope
that isn't a recipe for disaster... like if they put in parts that were
originally meant for a smaller engine Jeep if it's the kind of thing where
they won't survive behind the 4.0L for very long. Hopefully that's not the
case, but I suppose looking at the speedo gear might give a clue.
Especially if it's a gear for one of the other factory ratios that were
available, maybe the entire transfer case was swapped out including the old
speedo sender and replaced with one originally in a smaller engine Jeep.
Eventually I'll get to the bottom of this, but for now it's good to know
that the 4WD functionality is still there. Thanks again, everyone!
Bryan
> You have a YJ and the axle is disconnected because there is no
> vacuum in the diagram controlling that lever.
Ah, that would explain it... I had been looking at the differential housing
itself for a clue instead of outside on the axle tubes... plus I was looking
from the front, so I didn't see that vacuum motor-ish thingy hiding away.
So I jacked up one wheel, started the car, and put it into 4WD... this
seemed to do the trick, I was able to spin the wheel and subsequently rotate
the driveshaft. Two turns of the wheel and I got a 3.07 ratio, which is
excellent news for me. Thanks again to everyone who helped me sort this
out!
I still need to yank the current speedo gear and see what's up with that,
but if that's why it's wrong I have to wonder how the wrong gear got put in
there. If they swapped in a new transfer case and/or transmission, I hope
that isn't a recipe for disaster... like if they put in parts that were
originally meant for a smaller engine Jeep if it's the kind of thing where
they won't survive behind the 4.0L for very long. Hopefully that's not the
case, but I suppose looking at the speedo gear might give a clue.
Especially if it's a gear for one of the other factory ratios that were
available, maybe the entire transfer case was swapped out including the old
speedo sender and replaced with one originally in a smaller engine Jeep.
Eventually I'll get to the bottom of this, but for now it's good to know
that the 4WD functionality is still there. Thanks again, everyone!
Bryan
