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ULB 09-25-2007 03:33 AM

Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
 
On Sep 23, 9:27 am, "Kate" <svtk...@spam.filter> wrote:
> The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a strange
> shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking feeling in the pit
> of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>
> The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>
> So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the dealership, and
> send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>
> --
> Kate
> ______
> /l ,[____],
> l-L -OlllllllO-
> ()_)-()_)--)_)
>
> The shortest distance between two points,
> is a lot more fun in a Jeep!


Hey Kate,

Sorry for the pain you are going through. I can remember when my Dad
was rebuiilding his hot rod, a car I drove when I was a young buck,
(73 nova), he had it painted and the damn car never cured even after
30 days. He had to take it back and the little bugger had to be
sanded to bare metal. I can remember what my Dad's face looked like
after he had invested thousands upon thousands, thinking his bay was
f'ed.. Luckily the shop made it right. It still looks phenomenal to
this day. You'll be OK, no worries.

BTW, do you still want to the measurements on the warn mount? I had
never heard back and was wondering if you were buying from a vendor or
were doing the whole bumper from scratch. Take care,

ulb


Kate 09-25-2007 11:49 AM

Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46f7f00f$0$5218$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
Good luck.

I really hope it is only the one spot and not the whole job.

Mike


Yea... me too! That would suck on a gigantic scale. specially if it decided
to wait until the warranty ran out to go to pot.

Kate



Kate 09-25-2007 11:49 AM

Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46f7f00f$0$5218$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
Good luck.

I really hope it is only the one spot and not the whole job.

Mike


Yea... me too! That would suck on a gigantic scale. specially if it decided
to wait until the warranty ran out to go to pot.

Kate



Kate 09-25-2007 11:49 AM

Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46f7f00f$0$5218$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
Good luck.

I really hope it is only the one spot and not the whole job.

Mike


Yea... me too! That would suck on a gigantic scale. specially if it decided
to wait until the warranty ran out to go to pot.

Kate



Kate 09-25-2007 11:49 AM

Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46f7f00f$0$5218$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
Good luck.

I really hope it is only the one spot and not the whole job.

Mike


Yea... me too! That would suck on a gigantic scale. specially if it decided
to wait until the warranty ran out to go to pot.

Kate



Kate 09-25-2007 12:09 PM

Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
 
Ok, let me tell you THIS

I worked in the body shop industry for more than ten years. I OWNED a
successful body shop for five years.

It's spelled ACRYLIC and if you had read my reply in one of the posts above
you would have seen where I addressed this issue. It was probably improperly
prepped.
However, there could have been an issue of contamination between the base
coat and clear coat inhibiting adhesion OR any number of reasons why it
could have failed.

If your little jab at Mike was intended as a poke in the ribs or some kind
of teasing, it didn't read like that on this end.
Your smart ass remark pissed me off. It was completely unwarranted and
unnecessary.

If you're trying to be helpful, say something constructive you can skip the
jabs at other posters.

Mike has ALWAYS been helpful when I ask questions (even when I had my
*shudder* Liberty) and has done a great deal to help educate many people in
this group.

The information you gave is pretty much on target and those that may not
know about paint will hopefully benefit from it.

The reason I posted this was:
1st: To gripe about it. It's my rig. It's my right, I'll gripe if I want to.
2nd: to follow up with what the results were as far as the warranty repair
and quality of service.

Ok, so let's just play nice now.

Kate
..
"RiverRunner66 via CarKB.com" <u36930@uwe> wrote in message
news:78ba189524d84@uwe...
The Clear Coat is the same as the paint underneath. I is just clear instead
of colored, and is there to protect the paint from fading, as stated
previously. IT IS SIMPLY CLEAR PAINT. Usually acrallyc enamel., or what
ever the paint is made of. IF it is pealing, its usually bad prep and or a
paint chemical quality issue. Unless there is a huge run of failed paint
jobs by the manufacturer, I'd bet on failed prep. Both ford and chevy had a
bad primer issue in the 80's and their paint peeled to the primer factory
wide. IF its just the clear coat, you don't have to take it to the metal or
primer to fix it. Just a sand and spray will do the job. I'm surprised
Mike
didn't tell you that you had a faulty engine ground wire. He prolly figures
this would cause electrollysis which causes the paint to fall off.

Kate wrote:
>The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a strange
>shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking feeling in the
>pit
>of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>
>The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>
>So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the dealership,
>and
>send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>


--
Message posted via http://www.carkb.com



Kate 09-25-2007 12:09 PM

Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
 
Ok, let me tell you THIS

I worked in the body shop industry for more than ten years. I OWNED a
successful body shop for five years.

It's spelled ACRYLIC and if you had read my reply in one of the posts above
you would have seen where I addressed this issue. It was probably improperly
prepped.
However, there could have been an issue of contamination between the base
coat and clear coat inhibiting adhesion OR any number of reasons why it
could have failed.

If your little jab at Mike was intended as a poke in the ribs or some kind
of teasing, it didn't read like that on this end.
Your smart ass remark pissed me off. It was completely unwarranted and
unnecessary.

If you're trying to be helpful, say something constructive you can skip the
jabs at other posters.

Mike has ALWAYS been helpful when I ask questions (even when I had my
*shudder* Liberty) and has done a great deal to help educate many people in
this group.

The information you gave is pretty much on target and those that may not
know about paint will hopefully benefit from it.

The reason I posted this was:
1st: To gripe about it. It's my rig. It's my right, I'll gripe if I want to.
2nd: to follow up with what the results were as far as the warranty repair
and quality of service.

Ok, so let's just play nice now.

Kate
..
"RiverRunner66 via CarKB.com" <u36930@uwe> wrote in message
news:78ba189524d84@uwe...
The Clear Coat is the same as the paint underneath. I is just clear instead
of colored, and is there to protect the paint from fading, as stated
previously. IT IS SIMPLY CLEAR PAINT. Usually acrallyc enamel., or what
ever the paint is made of. IF it is pealing, its usually bad prep and or a
paint chemical quality issue. Unless there is a huge run of failed paint
jobs by the manufacturer, I'd bet on failed prep. Both ford and chevy had a
bad primer issue in the 80's and their paint peeled to the primer factory
wide. IF its just the clear coat, you don't have to take it to the metal or
primer to fix it. Just a sand and spray will do the job. I'm surprised
Mike
didn't tell you that you had a faulty engine ground wire. He prolly figures
this would cause electrollysis which causes the paint to fall off.

Kate wrote:
>The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a strange
>shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking feeling in the
>pit
>of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>
>The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>
>So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the dealership,
>and
>send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>


--
Message posted via http://www.carkb.com



Kate 09-25-2007 12:09 PM

Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
 
Ok, let me tell you THIS

I worked in the body shop industry for more than ten years. I OWNED a
successful body shop for five years.

It's spelled ACRYLIC and if you had read my reply in one of the posts above
you would have seen where I addressed this issue. It was probably improperly
prepped.
However, there could have been an issue of contamination between the base
coat and clear coat inhibiting adhesion OR any number of reasons why it
could have failed.

If your little jab at Mike was intended as a poke in the ribs or some kind
of teasing, it didn't read like that on this end.
Your smart ass remark pissed me off. It was completely unwarranted and
unnecessary.

If you're trying to be helpful, say something constructive you can skip the
jabs at other posters.

Mike has ALWAYS been helpful when I ask questions (even when I had my
*shudder* Liberty) and has done a great deal to help educate many people in
this group.

The information you gave is pretty much on target and those that may not
know about paint will hopefully benefit from it.

The reason I posted this was:
1st: To gripe about it. It's my rig. It's my right, I'll gripe if I want to.
2nd: to follow up with what the results were as far as the warranty repair
and quality of service.

Ok, so let's just play nice now.

Kate
..
"RiverRunner66 via CarKB.com" <u36930@uwe> wrote in message
news:78ba189524d84@uwe...
The Clear Coat is the same as the paint underneath. I is just clear instead
of colored, and is there to protect the paint from fading, as stated
previously. IT IS SIMPLY CLEAR PAINT. Usually acrallyc enamel., or what
ever the paint is made of. IF it is pealing, its usually bad prep and or a
paint chemical quality issue. Unless there is a huge run of failed paint
jobs by the manufacturer, I'd bet on failed prep. Both ford and chevy had a
bad primer issue in the 80's and their paint peeled to the primer factory
wide. IF its just the clear coat, you don't have to take it to the metal or
primer to fix it. Just a sand and spray will do the job. I'm surprised
Mike
didn't tell you that you had a faulty engine ground wire. He prolly figures
this would cause electrollysis which causes the paint to fall off.

Kate wrote:
>The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a strange
>shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking feeling in the
>pit
>of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>
>The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>
>So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the dealership,
>and
>send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>


--
Message posted via http://www.carkb.com



Kate 09-25-2007 12:09 PM

Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
 
Ok, let me tell you THIS

I worked in the body shop industry for more than ten years. I OWNED a
successful body shop for five years.

It's spelled ACRYLIC and if you had read my reply in one of the posts above
you would have seen where I addressed this issue. It was probably improperly
prepped.
However, there could have been an issue of contamination between the base
coat and clear coat inhibiting adhesion OR any number of reasons why it
could have failed.

If your little jab at Mike was intended as a poke in the ribs or some kind
of teasing, it didn't read like that on this end.
Your smart ass remark pissed me off. It was completely unwarranted and
unnecessary.

If you're trying to be helpful, say something constructive you can skip the
jabs at other posters.

Mike has ALWAYS been helpful when I ask questions (even when I had my
*shudder* Liberty) and has done a great deal to help educate many people in
this group.

The information you gave is pretty much on target and those that may not
know about paint will hopefully benefit from it.

The reason I posted this was:
1st: To gripe about it. It's my rig. It's my right, I'll gripe if I want to.
2nd: to follow up with what the results were as far as the warranty repair
and quality of service.

Ok, so let's just play nice now.

Kate
..
"RiverRunner66 via CarKB.com" <u36930@uwe> wrote in message
news:78ba189524d84@uwe...
The Clear Coat is the same as the paint underneath. I is just clear instead
of colored, and is there to protect the paint from fading, as stated
previously. IT IS SIMPLY CLEAR PAINT. Usually acrallyc enamel., or what
ever the paint is made of. IF it is pealing, its usually bad prep and or a
paint chemical quality issue. Unless there is a huge run of failed paint
jobs by the manufacturer, I'd bet on failed prep. Both ford and chevy had a
bad primer issue in the 80's and their paint peeled to the primer factory
wide. IF its just the clear coat, you don't have to take it to the metal or
primer to fix it. Just a sand and spray will do the job. I'm surprised
Mike
didn't tell you that you had a faulty engine ground wire. He prolly figures
this would cause electrollysis which causes the paint to fall off.

Kate wrote:
>The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a strange
>shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking feeling in the
>pit
>of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>
>The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>
>So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the dealership,
>and
>send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>


--
Message posted via http://www.carkb.com



Kate 09-25-2007 12:16 PM

Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
 
Oh - did I not get back to you? I'm so sorry.. I wasn't trying to be rude or
ungrateful I thought I did.

I've been up to my a$$ in alligators lately.

Hubs says he is going to build me an ARB style bumper with an integrated
mount - AND - recessed lights. Whooo hoo!
I know just what I want and he's going to make it happen for me.

So now, I'm stuck tapping my toe on the floor waiting impatiently LOL.

I know it will be fine - the paint that is.
When I brought my Jeep home I found that it had an issue with the paint on
doors. Where the window frame is welded to the door on both sides the paint
had cracked and there was a wee little bit of rust. I had them take care of
it and they did a great job. I'm scheduled to take it in on Thursday for
inspection and setting an appointment to have it fixed.
I am SO lucky to have a great dealership to work with. Serra in Jackson TN

I'll bet that your dad was sick, I would have been.
I know the guys in the shop must have been too. What a mess to have to clean
up. HAH... "Give 'er a lacquer thinner bath boys!"

Kate

"ULB" <ultralightbackpacker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1190705626.212341.231470@22g2000hsm.googlegro ups.com...
On Sep 23, 9:27 am, "Kate" <svtk...@spam.filter> wrote:
> The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a strange
> shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking feeling in the
> pit
> of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>
> The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>
> So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the dealership,
> and
> send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>
> --
> Kate
> ______
> /l ,[____],
> l-L -OlllllllO-
> ()_)-()_)--)_)
>
> The shortest distance between two points,
> is a lot more fun in a Jeep!


Hey Kate,

Sorry for the pain you are going through. I can remember when my Dad
was rebuiilding his hot rod, a car I drove when I was a young buck,
(73 nova), he had it painted and the damn car never cured even after
30 days. He had to take it back and the little bugger had to be
sanded to bare metal. I can remember what my Dad's face looked like
after he had invested thousands upon thousands, thinking his bay was
f'ed.. Luckily the shop made it right. It still looks phenomenal to
this day. You'll be OK, no worries.

BTW, do you still want to the measurements on the warn mount? I had
never heard back and was wondering if you were buying from a vendor or
were doing the whole bumper from scratch. Take care,

ulb




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