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Mike Romain 09-24-2007 10:52 AM

Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
 
Kate wrote:
> The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a strange
> shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking feeling in the pit
> of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>
> The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>
> So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the dealership, and
> send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>


That is pretty serious!

Either the clear coat failed, or the paint under it failed and there is
no real way to tell which unless they admit a bad paint run like they
'seldom' have to when all the paint peels off piles of them like the
older blue or silver Cherokees.

The whole paint job has been compromised somehow and nothing short of
sandblasting or somehow stripping it back to bare metal or primer and
starting all over again on the whole vehicle will put it right.

I feel for you.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 09-24-2007 10:52 AM

Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
 
Kate wrote:
> The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a strange
> shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking feeling in the pit
> of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>
> The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>
> So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the dealership, and
> send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>


That is pretty serious!

Either the clear coat failed, or the paint under it failed and there is
no real way to tell which unless they admit a bad paint run like they
'seldom' have to when all the paint peels off piles of them like the
older blue or silver Cherokees.

The whole paint job has been compromised somehow and nothing short of
sandblasting or somehow stripping it back to bare metal or primer and
starting all over again on the whole vehicle will put it right.

I feel for you.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 09-24-2007 10:52 AM

Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
 
Kate wrote:
> The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a strange
> shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking feeling in the pit
> of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>
> The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>
> So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the dealership, and
> send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>


That is pretty serious!

Either the clear coat failed, or the paint under it failed and there is
no real way to tell which unless they admit a bad paint run like they
'seldom' have to when all the paint peels off piles of them like the
older blue or silver Cherokees.

The whole paint job has been compromised somehow and nothing short of
sandblasting or somehow stripping it back to bare metal or primer and
starting all over again on the whole vehicle will put it right.

I feel for you.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 09-24-2007 11:35 AM

Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
 
That is the top layer of the paint job. It is a harder layer there to
protect the softer paint. Likely way cheaper to do it this way. They
can put on soft paint and only need a hard outer shell to get the same
life out of it.

Unfortunately when it fails, it is catastrophic. The paint's chemistry
has failed to hold it on or the coat was no good, but either way it is a
'very' expensive fix. I have never heard of a fix that was successful
either....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Earle Horton wrote:
> Clear coat, what is that exactly?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter> wrote in message
> news:VtwJi.102013$jH3.58075@bignews6.bellsouth.net ...
>> The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a strange
>> shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking feeling in the

> pit
>> of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>>
>> The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>>
>> So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the dealership,

> and
>> send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>>
>> --
>> Kate
>> ______
>> /l ,[____],
>> l-L -OlllllllO-
>> ()_)-()_)--)_)
>>
>> The shortest distance between two points,
>> is a lot more fun in a Jeep!
>>
>>

>
>


Mike Romain 09-24-2007 11:35 AM

Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
 
That is the top layer of the paint job. It is a harder layer there to
protect the softer paint. Likely way cheaper to do it this way. They
can put on soft paint and only need a hard outer shell to get the same
life out of it.

Unfortunately when it fails, it is catastrophic. The paint's chemistry
has failed to hold it on or the coat was no good, but either way it is a
'very' expensive fix. I have never heard of a fix that was successful
either....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Earle Horton wrote:
> Clear coat, what is that exactly?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter> wrote in message
> news:VtwJi.102013$jH3.58075@bignews6.bellsouth.net ...
>> The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a strange
>> shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking feeling in the

> pit
>> of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>>
>> The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>>
>> So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the dealership,

> and
>> send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>>
>> --
>> Kate
>> ______
>> /l ,[____],
>> l-L -OlllllllO-
>> ()_)-()_)--)_)
>>
>> The shortest distance between two points,
>> is a lot more fun in a Jeep!
>>
>>

>
>


Mike Romain 09-24-2007 11:35 AM

Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
 
That is the top layer of the paint job. It is a harder layer there to
protect the softer paint. Likely way cheaper to do it this way. They
can put on soft paint and only need a hard outer shell to get the same
life out of it.

Unfortunately when it fails, it is catastrophic. The paint's chemistry
has failed to hold it on or the coat was no good, but either way it is a
'very' expensive fix. I have never heard of a fix that was successful
either....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Earle Horton wrote:
> Clear coat, what is that exactly?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter> wrote in message
> news:VtwJi.102013$jH3.58075@bignews6.bellsouth.net ...
>> The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a strange
>> shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking feeling in the

> pit
>> of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>>
>> The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>>
>> So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the dealership,

> and
>> send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>>
>> --
>> Kate
>> ______
>> /l ,[____],
>> l-L -OlllllllO-
>> ()_)-()_)--)_)
>>
>> The shortest distance between two points,
>> is a lot more fun in a Jeep!
>>
>>

>
>


Mike Romain 09-24-2007 11:35 AM

Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
 
That is the top layer of the paint job. It is a harder layer there to
protect the softer paint. Likely way cheaper to do it this way. They
can put on soft paint and only need a hard outer shell to get the same
life out of it.

Unfortunately when it fails, it is catastrophic. The paint's chemistry
has failed to hold it on or the coat was no good, but either way it is a
'very' expensive fix. I have never heard of a fix that was successful
either....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Earle Horton wrote:
> Clear coat, what is that exactly?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter> wrote in message
> news:VtwJi.102013$jH3.58075@bignews6.bellsouth.net ...
>> The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a strange
>> shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking feeling in the

> pit
>> of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>>
>> The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>>
>> So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the dealership,

> and
>> send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>>
>> --
>> Kate
>> ______
>> /l ,[____],
>> l-L -OlllllllO-
>> ()_)-()_)--)_)
>>
>> The shortest distance between two points,
>> is a lot more fun in a Jeep!
>>
>>

>
>


Earle Horton 09-24-2007 11:36 AM

Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
 
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46f7ce9c$0$28801$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
....
>
> The whole paint job has been compromised somehow and nothing
> short of sandblasting or somehow stripping it back to bare metal or
> primer and starting all over again on the whole vehicle will put it right.
>
> I feel for you.
>

;o)

Saludos,

Earle



Earle Horton 09-24-2007 11:36 AM

Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
 
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46f7ce9c$0$28801$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
....
>
> The whole paint job has been compromised somehow and nothing
> short of sandblasting or somehow stripping it back to bare metal or
> primer and starting all over again on the whole vehicle will put it right.
>
> I feel for you.
>

;o)

Saludos,

Earle



Earle Horton 09-24-2007 11:36 AM

Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
 
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46f7ce9c$0$28801$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
....
>
> The whole paint job has been compromised somehow and nothing
> short of sandblasting or somehow stripping it back to bare metal or
> primer and starting all over again on the whole vehicle will put it right.
>
> I feel for you.
>

;o)

Saludos,

Earle




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