SON OF A B*^#&!!!
09-24-2007, 11:36 AM
#21
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Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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....
>
> The whole paint job has been compromised somehow and nothing
> short of sandblasting or somehow stripping it back to bare metal or
> primer and starting all over again on the whole vehicle will put it right.
>
> I feel for you.
>
;o)
Saludos,
Earle
news:46f7ce9c$0$28801$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
....
>
> The whole paint job has been compromised somehow and nothing
> short of sandblasting or somehow stripping it back to bare metal or
> primer and starting all over again on the whole vehicle will put it right.
>
> I feel for you.
>
;o)
Saludos,
Earle
09-24-2007, 12:53 PM
#22
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Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
It's only on the grille. It appears as though the rim around the headlight
was not properly prepped.
When I took it to the car wash to blow off some mud and bugs, it must have
brken it loose.
It's not hard to fix at all really. It needs to be sanded down below the
clear coat, reprimed and then painted and clear coated again.
All of today's paints (as far as I know it's been this way at least ten
years) have the clear coat on them. That's why the reds and silvers don't
fade as quickly as they used to.
As I said, thank goodness for the 3/36 bumper to bumper. It should be
covered. I'll get ahold of them today.
Kate
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46f7d8a9$0$28763$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
That is the top layer of the paint job. It is a harder layer there to
protect the softer paint. Likely way cheaper to do it this way. They
can put on soft paint and only need a hard outer shell to get the same
life out of it.
Unfortunately when it fails, it is catastrophic. The paint's chemistry
has failed to hold it on or the coat was no good, but either way it is a
'very' expensive fix. I have never heard of a fix that was successful
either....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Earle Horton wrote:
> Clear coat, what is that exactly?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter> wrote in message
> news:VtwJi.102013$jH3.58075@bignews6.bellsouth.net ...
>> The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a
>> strange
>> shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking feeling in the
> pit
>> of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>>
>> The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>>
>> So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the dealership,
> and
>> send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>>
>> --
>> Kate
>> ______
>> /l ,[____],
>> l-L -OlllllllO-
>> ()_)-()_)--)_)
>>
>> The shortest distance between two points,
>> is a lot more fun in a Jeep!
>>
>>
>
>
was not properly prepped.
When I took it to the car wash to blow off some mud and bugs, it must have
brken it loose.
It's not hard to fix at all really. It needs to be sanded down below the
clear coat, reprimed and then painted and clear coated again.
All of today's paints (as far as I know it's been this way at least ten
years) have the clear coat on them. That's why the reds and silvers don't
fade as quickly as they used to.
As I said, thank goodness for the 3/36 bumper to bumper. It should be
covered. I'll get ahold of them today.
Kate
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46f7d8a9$0$28763$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
That is the top layer of the paint job. It is a harder layer there to
protect the softer paint. Likely way cheaper to do it this way. They
can put on soft paint and only need a hard outer shell to get the same
life out of it.
Unfortunately when it fails, it is catastrophic. The paint's chemistry
has failed to hold it on or the coat was no good, but either way it is a
'very' expensive fix. I have never heard of a fix that was successful
either....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Earle Horton wrote:
> Clear coat, what is that exactly?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter> wrote in message
> news:VtwJi.102013$jH3.58075@bignews6.bellsouth.net ...
>> The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a
>> strange
>> shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking feeling in the
> pit
>> of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>>
>> The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>>
>> So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the dealership,
> and
>> send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>>
>> --
>> Kate
>> ______
>> /l ,[____],
>> l-L -OlllllllO-
>> ()_)-()_)--)_)
>>
>> The shortest distance between two points,
>> is a lot more fun in a Jeep!
>>
>>
>
>
09-24-2007, 12:53 PM
#23
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Posts: n/a
Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
It's only on the grille. It appears as though the rim around the headlight
was not properly prepped.
When I took it to the car wash to blow off some mud and bugs, it must have
brken it loose.
It's not hard to fix at all really. It needs to be sanded down below the
clear coat, reprimed and then painted and clear coated again.
All of today's paints (as far as I know it's been this way at least ten
years) have the clear coat on them. That's why the reds and silvers don't
fade as quickly as they used to.
As I said, thank goodness for the 3/36 bumper to bumper. It should be
covered. I'll get ahold of them today.
Kate
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46f7d8a9$0$28763$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
That is the top layer of the paint job. It is a harder layer there to
protect the softer paint. Likely way cheaper to do it this way. They
can put on soft paint and only need a hard outer shell to get the same
life out of it.
Unfortunately when it fails, it is catastrophic. The paint's chemistry
has failed to hold it on or the coat was no good, but either way it is a
'very' expensive fix. I have never heard of a fix that was successful
either....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Earle Horton wrote:
> Clear coat, what is that exactly?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter> wrote in message
> news:VtwJi.102013$jH3.58075@bignews6.bellsouth.net ...
>> The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a
>> strange
>> shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking feeling in the
> pit
>> of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>>
>> The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>>
>> So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the dealership,
> and
>> send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>>
>> --
>> Kate
>> ______
>> /l ,[____],
>> l-L -OlllllllO-
>> ()_)-()_)--)_)
>>
>> The shortest distance between two points,
>> is a lot more fun in a Jeep!
>>
>>
>
>
was not properly prepped.
When I took it to the car wash to blow off some mud and bugs, it must have
brken it loose.
It's not hard to fix at all really. It needs to be sanded down below the
clear coat, reprimed and then painted and clear coated again.
All of today's paints (as far as I know it's been this way at least ten
years) have the clear coat on them. That's why the reds and silvers don't
fade as quickly as they used to.
As I said, thank goodness for the 3/36 bumper to bumper. It should be
covered. I'll get ahold of them today.
Kate
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46f7d8a9$0$28763$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
That is the top layer of the paint job. It is a harder layer there to
protect the softer paint. Likely way cheaper to do it this way. They
can put on soft paint and only need a hard outer shell to get the same
life out of it.
Unfortunately when it fails, it is catastrophic. The paint's chemistry
has failed to hold it on or the coat was no good, but either way it is a
'very' expensive fix. I have never heard of a fix that was successful
either....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Earle Horton wrote:
> Clear coat, what is that exactly?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter> wrote in message
> news:VtwJi.102013$jH3.58075@bignews6.bellsouth.net ...
>> The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a
>> strange
>> shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking feeling in the
> pit
>> of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>>
>> The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>>
>> So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the dealership,
> and
>> send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>>
>> --
>> Kate
>> ______
>> /l ,[____],
>> l-L -OlllllllO-
>> ()_)-()_)--)_)
>>
>> The shortest distance between two points,
>> is a lot more fun in a Jeep!
>>
>>
>
>
09-24-2007, 12:53 PM
#24
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Posts: n/a
Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
It's only on the grille. It appears as though the rim around the headlight
was not properly prepped.
When I took it to the car wash to blow off some mud and bugs, it must have
brken it loose.
It's not hard to fix at all really. It needs to be sanded down below the
clear coat, reprimed and then painted and clear coated again.
All of today's paints (as far as I know it's been this way at least ten
years) have the clear coat on them. That's why the reds and silvers don't
fade as quickly as they used to.
As I said, thank goodness for the 3/36 bumper to bumper. It should be
covered. I'll get ahold of them today.
Kate
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46f7d8a9$0$28763$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
That is the top layer of the paint job. It is a harder layer there to
protect the softer paint. Likely way cheaper to do it this way. They
can put on soft paint and only need a hard outer shell to get the same
life out of it.
Unfortunately when it fails, it is catastrophic. The paint's chemistry
has failed to hold it on or the coat was no good, but either way it is a
'very' expensive fix. I have never heard of a fix that was successful
either....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Earle Horton wrote:
> Clear coat, what is that exactly?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter> wrote in message
> news:VtwJi.102013$jH3.58075@bignews6.bellsouth.net ...
>> The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a
>> strange
>> shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking feeling in the
> pit
>> of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>>
>> The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>>
>> So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the dealership,
> and
>> send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>>
>> --
>> Kate
>> ______
>> /l ,[____],
>> l-L -OlllllllO-
>> ()_)-()_)--)_)
>>
>> The shortest distance between two points,
>> is a lot more fun in a Jeep!
>>
>>
>
>
was not properly prepped.
When I took it to the car wash to blow off some mud and bugs, it must have
brken it loose.
It's not hard to fix at all really. It needs to be sanded down below the
clear coat, reprimed and then painted and clear coated again.
All of today's paints (as far as I know it's been this way at least ten
years) have the clear coat on them. That's why the reds and silvers don't
fade as quickly as they used to.
As I said, thank goodness for the 3/36 bumper to bumper. It should be
covered. I'll get ahold of them today.
Kate
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46f7d8a9$0$28763$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
That is the top layer of the paint job. It is a harder layer there to
protect the softer paint. Likely way cheaper to do it this way. They
can put on soft paint and only need a hard outer shell to get the same
life out of it.
Unfortunately when it fails, it is catastrophic. The paint's chemistry
has failed to hold it on or the coat was no good, but either way it is a
'very' expensive fix. I have never heard of a fix that was successful
either....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Earle Horton wrote:
> Clear coat, what is that exactly?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter> wrote in message
> news:VtwJi.102013$jH3.58075@bignews6.bellsouth.net ...
>> The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a
>> strange
>> shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking feeling in the
> pit
>> of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>>
>> The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>>
>> So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the dealership,
> and
>> send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>>
>> --
>> Kate
>> ______
>> /l ,[____],
>> l-L -OlllllllO-
>> ()_)-()_)--)_)
>>
>> The shortest distance between two points,
>> is a lot more fun in a Jeep!
>>
>>
>
>
09-24-2007, 12:53 PM
#25
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Posts: n/a
Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
It's only on the grille. It appears as though the rim around the headlight
was not properly prepped.
When I took it to the car wash to blow off some mud and bugs, it must have
brken it loose.
It's not hard to fix at all really. It needs to be sanded down below the
clear coat, reprimed and then painted and clear coated again.
All of today's paints (as far as I know it's been this way at least ten
years) have the clear coat on them. That's why the reds and silvers don't
fade as quickly as they used to.
As I said, thank goodness for the 3/36 bumper to bumper. It should be
covered. I'll get ahold of them today.
Kate
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46f7d8a9$0$28763$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
That is the top layer of the paint job. It is a harder layer there to
protect the softer paint. Likely way cheaper to do it this way. They
can put on soft paint and only need a hard outer shell to get the same
life out of it.
Unfortunately when it fails, it is catastrophic. The paint's chemistry
has failed to hold it on or the coat was no good, but either way it is a
'very' expensive fix. I have never heard of a fix that was successful
either....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Earle Horton wrote:
> Clear coat, what is that exactly?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter> wrote in message
> news:VtwJi.102013$jH3.58075@bignews6.bellsouth.net ...
>> The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a
>> strange
>> shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking feeling in the
> pit
>> of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>>
>> The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>>
>> So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the dealership,
> and
>> send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>>
>> --
>> Kate
>> ______
>> /l ,[____],
>> l-L -OlllllllO-
>> ()_)-()_)--)_)
>>
>> The shortest distance between two points,
>> is a lot more fun in a Jeep!
>>
>>
>
>
was not properly prepped.
When I took it to the car wash to blow off some mud and bugs, it must have
brken it loose.
It's not hard to fix at all really. It needs to be sanded down below the
clear coat, reprimed and then painted and clear coated again.
All of today's paints (as far as I know it's been this way at least ten
years) have the clear coat on them. That's why the reds and silvers don't
fade as quickly as they used to.
As I said, thank goodness for the 3/36 bumper to bumper. It should be
covered. I'll get ahold of them today.
Kate
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46f7d8a9$0$28763$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
That is the top layer of the paint job. It is a harder layer there to
protect the softer paint. Likely way cheaper to do it this way. They
can put on soft paint and only need a hard outer shell to get the same
life out of it.
Unfortunately when it fails, it is catastrophic. The paint's chemistry
has failed to hold it on or the coat was no good, but either way it is a
'very' expensive fix. I have never heard of a fix that was successful
either....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Earle Horton wrote:
> Clear coat, what is that exactly?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter> wrote in message
> news:VtwJi.102013$jH3.58075@bignews6.bellsouth.net ...
>> The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a
>> strange
>> shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking feeling in the
> pit
>> of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>>
>> The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>>
>> So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the dealership,
> and
>> send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>>
>> --
>> Kate
>> ______
>> /l ,[____],
>> l-L -OlllllllO-
>> ()_)-()_)--)_)
>>
>> The shortest distance between two points,
>> is a lot more fun in a Jeep!
>>
>>
>
>
09-24-2007, 01:15 PM
#26
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
Good luck.
I really hope it is only the one spot and not the whole job.
Mike
Kate wrote:
> It's only on the grille. It appears as though the rim around the headlight
> was not properly prepped.
> When I took it to the car wash to blow off some mud and bugs, it must have
> brken it loose.
>
> It's not hard to fix at all really. It needs to be sanded down below the
> clear coat, reprimed and then painted and clear coated again.
>
> All of today's paints (as far as I know it's been this way at least ten
> years) have the clear coat on them. That's why the reds and silvers don't
> fade as quickly as they used to.
>
> As I said, thank goodness for the 3/36 bumper to bumper. It should be
> covered. I'll get ahold of them today.
>
> Kate
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:46f7d8a9$0$28763$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> That is the top layer of the paint job. It is a harder layer there to
> protect the softer paint. Likely way cheaper to do it this way. They
> can put on soft paint and only need a hard outer shell to get the same
> life out of it.
>
> Unfortunately when it fails, it is catastrophic. The paint's chemistry
> has failed to hold it on or the coat was no good, but either way it is a
> 'very' expensive fix. I have never heard of a fix that was successful
> either....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> Clear coat, what is that exactly?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter> wrote in message
>> news:VtwJi.102013$jH3.58075@bignews6.bellsouth.net ...
>>> The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a
>>> strange
>>> shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking feeling in the
>> pit
>>> of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>>>
>>> The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>>>
>>> So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the dealership,
>> and
>>> send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kate
>>> ______
>>> /l ,[____],
>>> l-L -OlllllllO-
>>> ()_)-()_)--)_)
>>>
>>> The shortest distance between two points,
>>> is a lot more fun in a Jeep!
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
I really hope it is only the one spot and not the whole job.
Mike
Kate wrote:
> It's only on the grille. It appears as though the rim around the headlight
> was not properly prepped.
> When I took it to the car wash to blow off some mud and bugs, it must have
> brken it loose.
>
> It's not hard to fix at all really. It needs to be sanded down below the
> clear coat, reprimed and then painted and clear coated again.
>
> All of today's paints (as far as I know it's been this way at least ten
> years) have the clear coat on them. That's why the reds and silvers don't
> fade as quickly as they used to.
>
> As I said, thank goodness for the 3/36 bumper to bumper. It should be
> covered. I'll get ahold of them today.
>
> Kate
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:46f7d8a9$0$28763$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> That is the top layer of the paint job. It is a harder layer there to
> protect the softer paint. Likely way cheaper to do it this way. They
> can put on soft paint and only need a hard outer shell to get the same
> life out of it.
>
> Unfortunately when it fails, it is catastrophic. The paint's chemistry
> has failed to hold it on or the coat was no good, but either way it is a
> 'very' expensive fix. I have never heard of a fix that was successful
> either....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> Clear coat, what is that exactly?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter> wrote in message
>> news:VtwJi.102013$jH3.58075@bignews6.bellsouth.net ...
>>> The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a
>>> strange
>>> shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking feeling in the
>> pit
>>> of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>>>
>>> The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>>>
>>> So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the dealership,
>> and
>>> send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kate
>>> ______
>>> /l ,[____],
>>> l-L -OlllllllO-
>>> ()_)-()_)--)_)
>>>
>>> The shortest distance between two points,
>>> is a lot more fun in a Jeep!
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
09-24-2007, 01:15 PM
#27
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
Good luck.
I really hope it is only the one spot and not the whole job.
Mike
Kate wrote:
> It's only on the grille. It appears as though the rim around the headlight
> was not properly prepped.
> When I took it to the car wash to blow off some mud and bugs, it must have
> brken it loose.
>
> It's not hard to fix at all really. It needs to be sanded down below the
> clear coat, reprimed and then painted and clear coated again.
>
> All of today's paints (as far as I know it's been this way at least ten
> years) have the clear coat on them. That's why the reds and silvers don't
> fade as quickly as they used to.
>
> As I said, thank goodness for the 3/36 bumper to bumper. It should be
> covered. I'll get ahold of them today.
>
> Kate
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:46f7d8a9$0$28763$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> That is the top layer of the paint job. It is a harder layer there to
> protect the softer paint. Likely way cheaper to do it this way. They
> can put on soft paint and only need a hard outer shell to get the same
> life out of it.
>
> Unfortunately when it fails, it is catastrophic. The paint's chemistry
> has failed to hold it on or the coat was no good, but either way it is a
> 'very' expensive fix. I have never heard of a fix that was successful
> either....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> Clear coat, what is that exactly?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter> wrote in message
>> news:VtwJi.102013$jH3.58075@bignews6.bellsouth.net ...
>>> The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a
>>> strange
>>> shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking feeling in the
>> pit
>>> of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>>>
>>> The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>>>
>>> So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the dealership,
>> and
>>> send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kate
>>> ______
>>> /l ,[____],
>>> l-L -OlllllllO-
>>> ()_)-()_)--)_)
>>>
>>> The shortest distance between two points,
>>> is a lot more fun in a Jeep!
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
I really hope it is only the one spot and not the whole job.
Mike
Kate wrote:
> It's only on the grille. It appears as though the rim around the headlight
> was not properly prepped.
> When I took it to the car wash to blow off some mud and bugs, it must have
> brken it loose.
>
> It's not hard to fix at all really. It needs to be sanded down below the
> clear coat, reprimed and then painted and clear coated again.
>
> All of today's paints (as far as I know it's been this way at least ten
> years) have the clear coat on them. That's why the reds and silvers don't
> fade as quickly as they used to.
>
> As I said, thank goodness for the 3/36 bumper to bumper. It should be
> covered. I'll get ahold of them today.
>
> Kate
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:46f7d8a9$0$28763$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> That is the top layer of the paint job. It is a harder layer there to
> protect the softer paint. Likely way cheaper to do it this way. They
> can put on soft paint and only need a hard outer shell to get the same
> life out of it.
>
> Unfortunately when it fails, it is catastrophic. The paint's chemistry
> has failed to hold it on or the coat was no good, but either way it is a
> 'very' expensive fix. I have never heard of a fix that was successful
> either....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> Clear coat, what is that exactly?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter> wrote in message
>> news:VtwJi.102013$jH3.58075@bignews6.bellsouth.net ...
>>> The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a
>>> strange
>>> shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking feeling in the
>> pit
>>> of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>>>
>>> The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>>>
>>> So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the dealership,
>> and
>>> send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kate
>>> ______
>>> /l ,[____],
>>> l-L -OlllllllO-
>>> ()_)-()_)--)_)
>>>
>>> The shortest distance between two points,
>>> is a lot more fun in a Jeep!
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
09-24-2007, 01:15 PM
#28
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
Good luck.
I really hope it is only the one spot and not the whole job.
Mike
Kate wrote:
> It's only on the grille. It appears as though the rim around the headlight
> was not properly prepped.
> When I took it to the car wash to blow off some mud and bugs, it must have
> brken it loose.
>
> It's not hard to fix at all really. It needs to be sanded down below the
> clear coat, reprimed and then painted and clear coated again.
>
> All of today's paints (as far as I know it's been this way at least ten
> years) have the clear coat on them. That's why the reds and silvers don't
> fade as quickly as they used to.
>
> As I said, thank goodness for the 3/36 bumper to bumper. It should be
> covered. I'll get ahold of them today.
>
> Kate
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:46f7d8a9$0$28763$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> That is the top layer of the paint job. It is a harder layer there to
> protect the softer paint. Likely way cheaper to do it this way. They
> can put on soft paint and only need a hard outer shell to get the same
> life out of it.
>
> Unfortunately when it fails, it is catastrophic. The paint's chemistry
> has failed to hold it on or the coat was no good, but either way it is a
> 'very' expensive fix. I have never heard of a fix that was successful
> either....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> Clear coat, what is that exactly?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter> wrote in message
>> news:VtwJi.102013$jH3.58075@bignews6.bellsouth.net ...
>>> The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a
>>> strange
>>> shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking feeling in the
>> pit
>>> of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>>>
>>> The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>>>
>>> So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the dealership,
>> and
>>> send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kate
>>> ______
>>> /l ,[____],
>>> l-L -OlllllllO-
>>> ()_)-()_)--)_)
>>>
>>> The shortest distance between two points,
>>> is a lot more fun in a Jeep!
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
I really hope it is only the one spot and not the whole job.
Mike
Kate wrote:
> It's only on the grille. It appears as though the rim around the headlight
> was not properly prepped.
> When I took it to the car wash to blow off some mud and bugs, it must have
> brken it loose.
>
> It's not hard to fix at all really. It needs to be sanded down below the
> clear coat, reprimed and then painted and clear coated again.
>
> All of today's paints (as far as I know it's been this way at least ten
> years) have the clear coat on them. That's why the reds and silvers don't
> fade as quickly as they used to.
>
> As I said, thank goodness for the 3/36 bumper to bumper. It should be
> covered. I'll get ahold of them today.
>
> Kate
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:46f7d8a9$0$28763$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> That is the top layer of the paint job. It is a harder layer there to
> protect the softer paint. Likely way cheaper to do it this way. They
> can put on soft paint and only need a hard outer shell to get the same
> life out of it.
>
> Unfortunately when it fails, it is catastrophic. The paint's chemistry
> has failed to hold it on or the coat was no good, but either way it is a
> 'very' expensive fix. I have never heard of a fix that was successful
> either....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> Clear coat, what is that exactly?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter> wrote in message
>> news:VtwJi.102013$jH3.58075@bignews6.bellsouth.net ...
>>> The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a
>>> strange
>>> shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking feeling in the
>> pit
>>> of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>>>
>>> The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>>>
>>> So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the dealership,
>> and
>>> send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kate
>>> ______
>>> /l ,[____],
>>> l-L -OlllllllO-
>>> ()_)-()_)--)_)
>>>
>>> The shortest distance between two points,
>>> is a lot more fun in a Jeep!
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
09-24-2007, 01:15 PM
#29
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
Good luck.
I really hope it is only the one spot and not the whole job.
Mike
Kate wrote:
> It's only on the grille. It appears as though the rim around the headlight
> was not properly prepped.
> When I took it to the car wash to blow off some mud and bugs, it must have
> brken it loose.
>
> It's not hard to fix at all really. It needs to be sanded down below the
> clear coat, reprimed and then painted and clear coated again.
>
> All of today's paints (as far as I know it's been this way at least ten
> years) have the clear coat on them. That's why the reds and silvers don't
> fade as quickly as they used to.
>
> As I said, thank goodness for the 3/36 bumper to bumper. It should be
> covered. I'll get ahold of them today.
>
> Kate
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:46f7d8a9$0$28763$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> That is the top layer of the paint job. It is a harder layer there to
> protect the softer paint. Likely way cheaper to do it this way. They
> can put on soft paint and only need a hard outer shell to get the same
> life out of it.
>
> Unfortunately when it fails, it is catastrophic. The paint's chemistry
> has failed to hold it on or the coat was no good, but either way it is a
> 'very' expensive fix. I have never heard of a fix that was successful
> either....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> Clear coat, what is that exactly?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter> wrote in message
>> news:VtwJi.102013$jH3.58075@bignews6.bellsouth.net ...
>>> The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a
>>> strange
>>> shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking feeling in the
>> pit
>>> of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>>>
>>> The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>>>
>>> So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the dealership,
>> and
>>> send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kate
>>> ______
>>> /l ,[____],
>>> l-L -OlllllllO-
>>> ()_)-()_)--)_)
>>>
>>> The shortest distance between two points,
>>> is a lot more fun in a Jeep!
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
I really hope it is only the one spot and not the whole job.
Mike
Kate wrote:
> It's only on the grille. It appears as though the rim around the headlight
> was not properly prepped.
> When I took it to the car wash to blow off some mud and bugs, it must have
> brken it loose.
>
> It's not hard to fix at all really. It needs to be sanded down below the
> clear coat, reprimed and then painted and clear coated again.
>
> All of today's paints (as far as I know it's been this way at least ten
> years) have the clear coat on them. That's why the reds and silvers don't
> fade as quickly as they used to.
>
> As I said, thank goodness for the 3/36 bumper to bumper. It should be
> covered. I'll get ahold of them today.
>
> Kate
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:46f7d8a9$0$28763$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> That is the top layer of the paint job. It is a harder layer there to
> protect the softer paint. Likely way cheaper to do it this way. They
> can put on soft paint and only need a hard outer shell to get the same
> life out of it.
>
> Unfortunately when it fails, it is catastrophic. The paint's chemistry
> has failed to hold it on or the coat was no good, but either way it is a
> 'very' expensive fix. I have never heard of a fix that was successful
> either....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> Clear coat, what is that exactly?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter> wrote in message
>> news:VtwJi.102013$jH3.58075@bignews6.bellsouth.net ...
>>> The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a
>>> strange
>>> shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking feeling in the
>> pit
>>> of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>>>
>>> The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>>>
>>> So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the dealership,
>> and
>>> send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kate
>>> ______
>>> /l ,[____],
>>> l-L -OlllllllO-
>>> ()_)-()_)--)_)
>>>
>>> The shortest distance between two points,
>>> is a lot more fun in a Jeep!
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
09-24-2007, 01:54 PM
#30
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: SON OF A B*^#&!!!
Mike Romain wrote:
> Kate wrote:
>> The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a
>> strange shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking
>> feeling in the pit of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>>
>> The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>>
>> So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the
>> dealership, and send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>>
>
> That is pretty serious!
>
> Either the clear coat failed, or the paint under it failed and there is
> no real way to tell which unless they admit a bad paint run like they
> 'seldom' have to when all the paint peels off piles of them like the
> older blue or silver Cherokees.
>
> The whole paint job has been compromised somehow and nothing short of
> sandblasting or somehow stripping it back to bare metal or primer and
> starting all over again on the whole vehicle will put it right.
>
> I feel for you.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
That's what happened to Sandman's Wrangler IIRC.
Dave Milne, Scotland
> Kate wrote:
>> The sun caught my grille this morning, by the PS headlight I saw a
>> strange shadow. Kind of looked like a spider web, but the sinking
>> feeling in the pit of my stomache told me it wasn't.
>>
>> The G**D**N clear is peeling off of the grille.
>>
>> So, Looks like tomorrow morning, I call the boys down at the
>> dealership, and send it in. Thank goodness for bumper to bumper.
>>
>
> That is pretty serious!
>
> Either the clear coat failed, or the paint under it failed and there is
> no real way to tell which unless they admit a bad paint run like they
> 'seldom' have to when all the paint peels off piles of them like the
> older blue or silver Cherokees.
>
> The whole paint job has been compromised somehow and nothing short of
> sandblasting or somehow stripping it back to bare metal or primer and
> starting all over again on the whole vehicle will put it right.
>
> I feel for you.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
That's what happened to Sandman's Wrangler IIRC.
Dave Milne, Scotland
