So Cal Jeep Trail Recomendstions
11-10-2006, 02:40 PM
#101
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Re: Solo Desert Breakdown = Death?
"Deano" <dpernisie@gmail.com> writes:
> I was intriqued by this thread (but have NO experience in the desert)
>
> However... you would think if these guys and girls can RACE 135 miles
> through death valley in the summertime (masochistic tendencies aside),
> surely someone with enough water can WALK a few miles to a road with
> more traffic on it, no?
>
> http://www.runningonthesun.org/r-mission.htm
>
I took some of the trails in and around Death Valley in mid-April this
year with my dog. Both of us are in good to excellent physical
condition. I cut our trip short because my dog was not taking the heat
well. I brought 5 gallons of water which by afternoon was just a
little cooler than fresh coffee. On our way out of the valley floor,
we stopped to help a couple on a motorcycle. The passenger was
vomiting and showing late signs of heat exhaustion. They had no
mechanical problems at all. Just sitting on the back of the bike at
40+ MPH in the afternoon sun sent the passenger to the hospital.
Bill's warning is good and relevant. It's definitely not a casual
decision to make but neither is hang gliding or mountain climbing. It
is an amazing place. Go see it and go prepared.
http://xobjex.com/dbibbens/albums/drink_water.jpg
http://xobjex.com/dbibbens/albums/happiness.jpg
I'm crossing the Mojave (3 days East to West) in two weeks. Anyone
want to come along?
--
> I was intriqued by this thread (but have NO experience in the desert)
>
> However... you would think if these guys and girls can RACE 135 miles
> through death valley in the summertime (masochistic tendencies aside),
> surely someone with enough water can WALK a few miles to a road with
> more traffic on it, no?
>
> http://www.runningonthesun.org/r-mission.htm
>
I took some of the trails in and around Death Valley in mid-April this
year with my dog. Both of us are in good to excellent physical
condition. I cut our trip short because my dog was not taking the heat
well. I brought 5 gallons of water which by afternoon was just a
little cooler than fresh coffee. On our way out of the valley floor,
we stopped to help a couple on a motorcycle. The passenger was
vomiting and showing late signs of heat exhaustion. They had no
mechanical problems at all. Just sitting on the back of the bike at
40+ MPH in the afternoon sun sent the passenger to the hospital.
Bill's warning is good and relevant. It's definitely not a casual
decision to make but neither is hang gliding or mountain climbing. It
is an amazing place. Go see it and go prepared.
http://xobjex.com/dbibbens/albums/drink_water.jpg
http://xobjex.com/dbibbens/albums/happiness.jpg
I'm crossing the Mojave (3 days East to West) in two weeks. Anyone
want to come along?
--
11-10-2006, 02:40 PM
#102
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Re: Solo Desert Breakdown = Death?
"Deano" <dpernisie@gmail.com> writes:
> I was intriqued by this thread (but have NO experience in the desert)
>
> However... you would think if these guys and girls can RACE 135 miles
> through death valley in the summertime (masochistic tendencies aside),
> surely someone with enough water can WALK a few miles to a road with
> more traffic on it, no?
>
> http://www.runningonthesun.org/r-mission.htm
>
I took some of the trails in and around Death Valley in mid-April this
year with my dog. Both of us are in good to excellent physical
condition. I cut our trip short because my dog was not taking the heat
well. I brought 5 gallons of water which by afternoon was just a
little cooler than fresh coffee. On our way out of the valley floor,
we stopped to help a couple on a motorcycle. The passenger was
vomiting and showing late signs of heat exhaustion. They had no
mechanical problems at all. Just sitting on the back of the bike at
40+ MPH in the afternoon sun sent the passenger to the hospital.
Bill's warning is good and relevant. It's definitely not a casual
decision to make but neither is hang gliding or mountain climbing. It
is an amazing place. Go see it and go prepared.
http://xobjex.com/dbibbens/albums/drink_water.jpg
http://xobjex.com/dbibbens/albums/happiness.jpg
I'm crossing the Mojave (3 days East to West) in two weeks. Anyone
want to come along?
--
> I was intriqued by this thread (but have NO experience in the desert)
>
> However... you would think if these guys and girls can RACE 135 miles
> through death valley in the summertime (masochistic tendencies aside),
> surely someone with enough water can WALK a few miles to a road with
> more traffic on it, no?
>
> http://www.runningonthesun.org/r-mission.htm
>
I took some of the trails in and around Death Valley in mid-April this
year with my dog. Both of us are in good to excellent physical
condition. I cut our trip short because my dog was not taking the heat
well. I brought 5 gallons of water which by afternoon was just a
little cooler than fresh coffee. On our way out of the valley floor,
we stopped to help a couple on a motorcycle. The passenger was
vomiting and showing late signs of heat exhaustion. They had no
mechanical problems at all. Just sitting on the back of the bike at
40+ MPH in the afternoon sun sent the passenger to the hospital.
Bill's warning is good and relevant. It's definitely not a casual
decision to make but neither is hang gliding or mountain climbing. It
is an amazing place. Go see it and go prepared.
http://xobjex.com/dbibbens/albums/drink_water.jpg
http://xobjex.com/dbibbens/albums/happiness.jpg
I'm crossing the Mojave (3 days East to West) in two weeks. Anyone
want to come along?
--
11-10-2006, 02:40 PM
#103
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Re: Solo Desert Breakdown = Death?
"Deano" <dpernisie@gmail.com> writes:
> I was intriqued by this thread (but have NO experience in the desert)
>
> However... you would think if these guys and girls can RACE 135 miles
> through death valley in the summertime (masochistic tendencies aside),
> surely someone with enough water can WALK a few miles to a road with
> more traffic on it, no?
>
> http://www.runningonthesun.org/r-mission.htm
>
I took some of the trails in and around Death Valley in mid-April this
year with my dog. Both of us are in good to excellent physical
condition. I cut our trip short because my dog was not taking the heat
well. I brought 5 gallons of water which by afternoon was just a
little cooler than fresh coffee. On our way out of the valley floor,
we stopped to help a couple on a motorcycle. The passenger was
vomiting and showing late signs of heat exhaustion. They had no
mechanical problems at all. Just sitting on the back of the bike at
40+ MPH in the afternoon sun sent the passenger to the hospital.
Bill's warning is good and relevant. It's definitely not a casual
decision to make but neither is hang gliding or mountain climbing. It
is an amazing place. Go see it and go prepared.
http://xobjex.com/dbibbens/albums/drink_water.jpg
http://xobjex.com/dbibbens/albums/happiness.jpg
I'm crossing the Mojave (3 days East to West) in two weeks. Anyone
want to come along?
--
> I was intriqued by this thread (but have NO experience in the desert)
>
> However... you would think if these guys and girls can RACE 135 miles
> through death valley in the summertime (masochistic tendencies aside),
> surely someone with enough water can WALK a few miles to a road with
> more traffic on it, no?
>
> http://www.runningonthesun.org/r-mission.htm
>
I took some of the trails in and around Death Valley in mid-April this
year with my dog. Both of us are in good to excellent physical
condition. I cut our trip short because my dog was not taking the heat
well. I brought 5 gallons of water which by afternoon was just a
little cooler than fresh coffee. On our way out of the valley floor,
we stopped to help a couple on a motorcycle. The passenger was
vomiting and showing late signs of heat exhaustion. They had no
mechanical problems at all. Just sitting on the back of the bike at
40+ MPH in the afternoon sun sent the passenger to the hospital.
Bill's warning is good and relevant. It's definitely not a casual
decision to make but neither is hang gliding or mountain climbing. It
is an amazing place. Go see it and go prepared.
http://xobjex.com/dbibbens/albums/drink_water.jpg
http://xobjex.com/dbibbens/albums/happiness.jpg
I'm crossing the Mojave (3 days East to West) in two weeks. Anyone
want to come along?
--
11-10-2006, 03:12 PM
#104
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Re: Solo Desert Breakdown = Death?
Beautiful pictures taken with your Sony DSC-P41 on 8/19/2006 at
1:19 PM, Elevation five thousand foot.
Thanks for the invite, but I have deserts much closer at eighty
miles, that are also two hundred foot below sea level.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Daniel Bibbens wrote:
>
> I took some of the trails in and around Death Valley in mid-April this
> year with my dog. Both of us are in good to excellent physical
> condition. I cut our trip short because my dog was not taking the heat
> well. I brought 5 gallons of water which by afternoon was just a
> little cooler than fresh coffee. On our way out of the valley floor,
> we stopped to help a couple on a motorcycle. The passenger was
> vomiting and showing late signs of heat exhaustion. They had no
> mechanical problems at all. Just sitting on the back of the bike at
> 40+ MPH in the afternoon sun sent the passenger to the hospital.
>
> Bill's warning is good and relevant. It's definitely not a casual
> decision to make but neither is hang gliding or mountain climbing. It
> is an amazing place. Go see it and go prepared.
>
> http://xobjex.com/dbibbens/albums/drink_water.jpg
> http://xobjex.com/dbibbens/albums/happiness.jpg
>
> I'm crossing the Mojave (3 days East to West) in two weeks. Anyone
> want to come along?
> --
1:19 PM, Elevation five thousand foot.
Thanks for the invite, but I have deserts much closer at eighty
miles, that are also two hundred foot below sea level.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Daniel Bibbens wrote:
>
> I took some of the trails in and around Death Valley in mid-April this
> year with my dog. Both of us are in good to excellent physical
> condition. I cut our trip short because my dog was not taking the heat
> well. I brought 5 gallons of water which by afternoon was just a
> little cooler than fresh coffee. On our way out of the valley floor,
> we stopped to help a couple on a motorcycle. The passenger was
> vomiting and showing late signs of heat exhaustion. They had no
> mechanical problems at all. Just sitting on the back of the bike at
> 40+ MPH in the afternoon sun sent the passenger to the hospital.
>
> Bill's warning is good and relevant. It's definitely not a casual
> decision to make but neither is hang gliding or mountain climbing. It
> is an amazing place. Go see it and go prepared.
>
> http://xobjex.com/dbibbens/albums/drink_water.jpg
> http://xobjex.com/dbibbens/albums/happiness.jpg
>
> I'm crossing the Mojave (3 days East to West) in two weeks. Anyone
> want to come along?
> --
11-10-2006, 03:12 PM
#105
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Re: Solo Desert Breakdown = Death?
Beautiful pictures taken with your Sony DSC-P41 on 8/19/2006 at
1:19 PM, Elevation five thousand foot.
Thanks for the invite, but I have deserts much closer at eighty
miles, that are also two hundred foot below sea level.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Daniel Bibbens wrote:
>
> I took some of the trails in and around Death Valley in mid-April this
> year with my dog. Both of us are in good to excellent physical
> condition. I cut our trip short because my dog was not taking the heat
> well. I brought 5 gallons of water which by afternoon was just a
> little cooler than fresh coffee. On our way out of the valley floor,
> we stopped to help a couple on a motorcycle. The passenger was
> vomiting and showing late signs of heat exhaustion. They had no
> mechanical problems at all. Just sitting on the back of the bike at
> 40+ MPH in the afternoon sun sent the passenger to the hospital.
>
> Bill's warning is good and relevant. It's definitely not a casual
> decision to make but neither is hang gliding or mountain climbing. It
> is an amazing place. Go see it and go prepared.
>
> http://xobjex.com/dbibbens/albums/drink_water.jpg
> http://xobjex.com/dbibbens/albums/happiness.jpg
>
> I'm crossing the Mojave (3 days East to West) in two weeks. Anyone
> want to come along?
> --
1:19 PM, Elevation five thousand foot.
Thanks for the invite, but I have deserts much closer at eighty
miles, that are also two hundred foot below sea level.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Daniel Bibbens wrote:
>
> I took some of the trails in and around Death Valley in mid-April this
> year with my dog. Both of us are in good to excellent physical
> condition. I cut our trip short because my dog was not taking the heat
> well. I brought 5 gallons of water which by afternoon was just a
> little cooler than fresh coffee. On our way out of the valley floor,
> we stopped to help a couple on a motorcycle. The passenger was
> vomiting and showing late signs of heat exhaustion. They had no
> mechanical problems at all. Just sitting on the back of the bike at
> 40+ MPH in the afternoon sun sent the passenger to the hospital.
>
> Bill's warning is good and relevant. It's definitely not a casual
> decision to make but neither is hang gliding or mountain climbing. It
> is an amazing place. Go see it and go prepared.
>
> http://xobjex.com/dbibbens/albums/drink_water.jpg
> http://xobjex.com/dbibbens/albums/happiness.jpg
>
> I'm crossing the Mojave (3 days East to West) in two weeks. Anyone
> want to come along?
> --
11-10-2006, 03:12 PM
#106
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Posts: n/a
Re: Solo Desert Breakdown = Death?
Beautiful pictures taken with your Sony DSC-P41 on 8/19/2006 at
1:19 PM, Elevation five thousand foot.
Thanks for the invite, but I have deserts much closer at eighty
miles, that are also two hundred foot below sea level.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Daniel Bibbens wrote:
>
> I took some of the trails in and around Death Valley in mid-April this
> year with my dog. Both of us are in good to excellent physical
> condition. I cut our trip short because my dog was not taking the heat
> well. I brought 5 gallons of water which by afternoon was just a
> little cooler than fresh coffee. On our way out of the valley floor,
> we stopped to help a couple on a motorcycle. The passenger was
> vomiting and showing late signs of heat exhaustion. They had no
> mechanical problems at all. Just sitting on the back of the bike at
> 40+ MPH in the afternoon sun sent the passenger to the hospital.
>
> Bill's warning is good and relevant. It's definitely not a casual
> decision to make but neither is hang gliding or mountain climbing. It
> is an amazing place. Go see it and go prepared.
>
> http://xobjex.com/dbibbens/albums/drink_water.jpg
> http://xobjex.com/dbibbens/albums/happiness.jpg
>
> I'm crossing the Mojave (3 days East to West) in two weeks. Anyone
> want to come along?
> --
1:19 PM, Elevation five thousand foot.
Thanks for the invite, but I have deserts much closer at eighty
miles, that are also two hundred foot below sea level.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Daniel Bibbens wrote:
>
> I took some of the trails in and around Death Valley in mid-April this
> year with my dog. Both of us are in good to excellent physical
> condition. I cut our trip short because my dog was not taking the heat
> well. I brought 5 gallons of water which by afternoon was just a
> little cooler than fresh coffee. On our way out of the valley floor,
> we stopped to help a couple on a motorcycle. The passenger was
> vomiting and showing late signs of heat exhaustion. They had no
> mechanical problems at all. Just sitting on the back of the bike at
> 40+ MPH in the afternoon sun sent the passenger to the hospital.
>
> Bill's warning is good and relevant. It's definitely not a casual
> decision to make but neither is hang gliding or mountain climbing. It
> is an amazing place. Go see it and go prepared.
>
> http://xobjex.com/dbibbens/albums/drink_water.jpg
> http://xobjex.com/dbibbens/albums/happiness.jpg
>
> I'm crossing the Mojave (3 days East to West) in two weeks. Anyone
> want to come along?
> --
11-10-2006, 03:43 PM
#107
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Re: Solo Desert Breakdown = Death?
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> writes:
> Beautiful pictures taken with your Sony DSC-P41 on 8/19/2006 at
> 1:19 PM, Elevation five thousand foot.
> Thanks for the invite, but I have deserts much closer at eighty
> miles, that are also two hundred foot below sea level.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
Thanks, Bill. The picture were taken near Lake Arrowhead by my
sister. Where did you get the elevation? I don't see that in the exif
data.
Here is the thread containing a link to my DV pics:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...q=Death+Valley
DV pics are here:
http://photos.yahoo.com/daniel_bibbe...b5escd&.src=ph
--
> Beautiful pictures taken with your Sony DSC-P41 on 8/19/2006 at
> 1:19 PM, Elevation five thousand foot.
> Thanks for the invite, but I have deserts much closer at eighty
> miles, that are also two hundred foot below sea level.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
Thanks, Bill. The picture were taken near Lake Arrowhead by my
sister. Where did you get the elevation? I don't see that in the exif
data.
Here is the thread containing a link to my DV pics:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...q=Death+Valley
DV pics are here:
http://photos.yahoo.com/daniel_bibbe...b5escd&.src=ph
--
11-10-2006, 03:43 PM
#108
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Re: Solo Desert Breakdown = Death?
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> writes:
> Beautiful pictures taken with your Sony DSC-P41 on 8/19/2006 at
> 1:19 PM, Elevation five thousand foot.
> Thanks for the invite, but I have deserts much closer at eighty
> miles, that are also two hundred foot below sea level.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
Thanks, Bill. The picture were taken near Lake Arrowhead by my
sister. Where did you get the elevation? I don't see that in the exif
data.
Here is the thread containing a link to my DV pics:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...q=Death+Valley
DV pics are here:
http://photos.yahoo.com/daniel_bibbe...b5escd&.src=ph
--
> Beautiful pictures taken with your Sony DSC-P41 on 8/19/2006 at
> 1:19 PM, Elevation five thousand foot.
> Thanks for the invite, but I have deserts much closer at eighty
> miles, that are also two hundred foot below sea level.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
Thanks, Bill. The picture were taken near Lake Arrowhead by my
sister. Where did you get the elevation? I don't see that in the exif
data.
Here is the thread containing a link to my DV pics:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...q=Death+Valley
DV pics are here:
http://photos.yahoo.com/daniel_bibbe...b5escd&.src=ph
--
11-10-2006, 03:43 PM
#109
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Posts: n/a
Re: Solo Desert Breakdown = Death?
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> writes:
> Beautiful pictures taken with your Sony DSC-P41 on 8/19/2006 at
> 1:19 PM, Elevation five thousand foot.
> Thanks for the invite, but I have deserts much closer at eighty
> miles, that are also two hundred foot below sea level.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
Thanks, Bill. The picture were taken near Lake Arrowhead by my
sister. Where did you get the elevation? I don't see that in the exif
data.
Here is the thread containing a link to my DV pics:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...q=Death+Valley
DV pics are here:
http://photos.yahoo.com/daniel_bibbe...b5escd&.src=ph
--
> Beautiful pictures taken with your Sony DSC-P41 on 8/19/2006 at
> 1:19 PM, Elevation five thousand foot.
> Thanks for the invite, but I have deserts much closer at eighty
> miles, that are also two hundred foot below sea level.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
Thanks, Bill. The picture were taken near Lake Arrowhead by my
sister. Where did you get the elevation? I don't see that in the exif
data.
Here is the thread containing a link to my DV pics:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...q=Death+Valley
DV pics are here:
http://photos.yahoo.com/daniel_bibbe...b5escd&.src=ph
--
11-10-2006, 04:01 PM
#110
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Re: Solo Desert Breakdown = Death?
Hi Dan,
It was the type of pine tree.
Thanks.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Daniel Bibbens wrote:
>
> Thanks, Bill. The picture were taken near Lake Arrowhead by my
> sister. Where did you get the elevation? I don't see that in the exif
> data.
>
> Here is the thread containing a link to my DV pics:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...q=Death+Valley
>
> DV pics are here:
>
> http://photos.yahoo.com/daniel_bibbe...b5escd&.src=ph
>
> --
It was the type of pine tree.
Thanks.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Daniel Bibbens wrote:
>
> Thanks, Bill. The picture were taken near Lake Arrowhead by my
> sister. Where did you get the elevation? I don't see that in the exif
> data.
>
> Here is the thread containing a link to my DV pics:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...q=Death+Valley
>
> DV pics are here:
>
> http://photos.yahoo.com/daniel_bibbe...b5escd&.src=ph
>
> --