Slip Yoke Eliminator
#231
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Re: Slip Yoke Eliminator
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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Hi Gerald,
The first couple years they kept everything Kaiser and ****** used, just
adding four inches to the nose for the straight six. It still used a open
channel riveted quarter ton truck designed frame. <
I thought all they did was move the front axle forward in '72 to accomodate
the I6, was the frame actually lengthed at that point as well? I'd thought
the frame was widened and lengthened only on the '76 & later models.
#232
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Re: Slip Yoke Eliminator
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FA4496F.124F083@***.net...
Hi Gerald,
The first couple years they kept everything Kaiser and ****** used, just
adding four inches to the nose for the straight six. It still used a open
channel riveted quarter ton truck designed frame. <
I thought all they did was move the front axle forward in '72 to accomodate
the I6, was the frame actually lengthed at that point as well? I'd thought
the frame was widened and lengthened only on the '76 & later models.
#233
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Re: Slip Yoke Eliminator
Thanks, Bob and Matt, for the useful information, and thanks to everyone
else for a good old fashioned flaming on this thread, albeit off topic. I
enjoyed reading through all of the replies.
I am a GM dealer mechanic, so the NP231 is definitely not a stranger to me.
I have had dozens of them apart, and I don't have any qualms about working
on mine. I have just never done a short shaft kit in one, and I was looking
for some affirmation from the group that it will be a good mod. At ~$500, I
would hate to be disappointed.
I absolutely plan to take the case out of the Jeep -- yeah, Bill, it's a
Jeep. These things go back together so much easier when the output shaft is
pointing to the sky instead of in your face. This method also prevents
broken magnets, pump tangs, etc. Bob, I suggest you try it the other way,
if you ever end up doing another one. It is only a few bolts that hold it
onto the trans vs. the headache of trying to overcome gravity while
reassembling. Also, it only weighs about 50 lbs, not as heavy as it looks.
I find it awkward to try and get that thing on a jack, I usually just stab
them over my head on the lift.
I suspect that AA and JB are pretty comparable units. Did ya have to get a
driveshaft measurement to give them over the phone, or is it something that
they already know based on the vehicle build? One website I visited talked
about measuring from the rear case to the rear axle pinion.
Again, thanks to everyone for your help and input. I feel alot better about
spending the dough now.
On a different topic, I bought a Dana 44 today. It has 6 lug axles. I will
post a new thread on this, but what is the common thought on 6-lug vs.
5x4.5? My first thought was to get some aftermarket axles with the correct
lug pattern, but after mulling it for awhile, I started to think that maybe
I should go to six lug. What does the rest of the world do?
Jerry
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
news:20031031153734.28496.00001618@mb-m18.aol.com...
> In article <47b769ae.0310311214.317a65cd@posting.google.com >,
magicclaw@mac.com
> (Bob) writes:
>
> >Seeing as I JUST did this mod, I have fresh on my mind some tips for
> >you.
>
> Excellent post Bob. One thing...I'm not sure about your assertion:
>
> >I chose the
> >AA over the JB because the AA DOES NOT require the use of a press when
> >being used to convert a TJ.
>
> My JB conversion kit did not require the use of a press either. I also
found
> that with the T case completely out, it was much easier to work on, as I
didn't
> need to remove the shift fork assemblies since I was working on it
vertically.
> This is especially helpful when re-installing the oil pump and pickup
tube. I
> removed the T case using my floor jack, a large piece of lumber and a
couple of
> ratchet straps.
>
> I did a little writeup on my conversion at
> http://www.geocities.com/basscraft.geo/sye.html
>
> Nathan C. also was kind enough to include it in his Tech page
>
> http://7slotgrille.com/tech/sye2/index.html
>
> Good Luck
>
>
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
>
>
>
>
else for a good old fashioned flaming on this thread, albeit off topic. I
enjoyed reading through all of the replies.
I am a GM dealer mechanic, so the NP231 is definitely not a stranger to me.
I have had dozens of them apart, and I don't have any qualms about working
on mine. I have just never done a short shaft kit in one, and I was looking
for some affirmation from the group that it will be a good mod. At ~$500, I
would hate to be disappointed.
I absolutely plan to take the case out of the Jeep -- yeah, Bill, it's a
Jeep. These things go back together so much easier when the output shaft is
pointing to the sky instead of in your face. This method also prevents
broken magnets, pump tangs, etc. Bob, I suggest you try it the other way,
if you ever end up doing another one. It is only a few bolts that hold it
onto the trans vs. the headache of trying to overcome gravity while
reassembling. Also, it only weighs about 50 lbs, not as heavy as it looks.
I find it awkward to try and get that thing on a jack, I usually just stab
them over my head on the lift.
I suspect that AA and JB are pretty comparable units. Did ya have to get a
driveshaft measurement to give them over the phone, or is it something that
they already know based on the vehicle build? One website I visited talked
about measuring from the rear case to the rear axle pinion.
Again, thanks to everyone for your help and input. I feel alot better about
spending the dough now.
On a different topic, I bought a Dana 44 today. It has 6 lug axles. I will
post a new thread on this, but what is the common thought on 6-lug vs.
5x4.5? My first thought was to get some aftermarket axles with the correct
lug pattern, but after mulling it for awhile, I started to think that maybe
I should go to six lug. What does the rest of the world do?
Jerry
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
news:20031031153734.28496.00001618@mb-m18.aol.com...
> In article <47b769ae.0310311214.317a65cd@posting.google.com >,
magicclaw@mac.com
> (Bob) writes:
>
> >Seeing as I JUST did this mod, I have fresh on my mind some tips for
> >you.
>
> Excellent post Bob. One thing...I'm not sure about your assertion:
>
> >I chose the
> >AA over the JB because the AA DOES NOT require the use of a press when
> >being used to convert a TJ.
>
> My JB conversion kit did not require the use of a press either. I also
found
> that with the T case completely out, it was much easier to work on, as I
didn't
> need to remove the shift fork assemblies since I was working on it
vertically.
> This is especially helpful when re-installing the oil pump and pickup
tube. I
> removed the T case using my floor jack, a large piece of lumber and a
couple of
> ratchet straps.
>
> I did a little writeup on my conversion at
> http://www.geocities.com/basscraft.geo/sye.html
>
> Nathan C. also was kind enough to include it in his Tech page
>
> http://7slotgrille.com/tech/sye2/index.html
>
> Good Luck
>
>
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
>
>
>
>
#234
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Re: Slip Yoke Eliminator
Thanks, Bob and Matt, for the useful information, and thanks to everyone
else for a good old fashioned flaming on this thread, albeit off topic. I
enjoyed reading through all of the replies.
I am a GM dealer mechanic, so the NP231 is definitely not a stranger to me.
I have had dozens of them apart, and I don't have any qualms about working
on mine. I have just never done a short shaft kit in one, and I was looking
for some affirmation from the group that it will be a good mod. At ~$500, I
would hate to be disappointed.
I absolutely plan to take the case out of the Jeep -- yeah, Bill, it's a
Jeep. These things go back together so much easier when the output shaft is
pointing to the sky instead of in your face. This method also prevents
broken magnets, pump tangs, etc. Bob, I suggest you try it the other way,
if you ever end up doing another one. It is only a few bolts that hold it
onto the trans vs. the headache of trying to overcome gravity while
reassembling. Also, it only weighs about 50 lbs, not as heavy as it looks.
I find it awkward to try and get that thing on a jack, I usually just stab
them over my head on the lift.
I suspect that AA and JB are pretty comparable units. Did ya have to get a
driveshaft measurement to give them over the phone, or is it something that
they already know based on the vehicle build? One website I visited talked
about measuring from the rear case to the rear axle pinion.
Again, thanks to everyone for your help and input. I feel alot better about
spending the dough now.
On a different topic, I bought a Dana 44 today. It has 6 lug axles. I will
post a new thread on this, but what is the common thought on 6-lug vs.
5x4.5? My first thought was to get some aftermarket axles with the correct
lug pattern, but after mulling it for awhile, I started to think that maybe
I should go to six lug. What does the rest of the world do?
Jerry
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
news:20031031153734.28496.00001618@mb-m18.aol.com...
> In article <47b769ae.0310311214.317a65cd@posting.google.com >,
magicclaw@mac.com
> (Bob) writes:
>
> >Seeing as I JUST did this mod, I have fresh on my mind some tips for
> >you.
>
> Excellent post Bob. One thing...I'm not sure about your assertion:
>
> >I chose the
> >AA over the JB because the AA DOES NOT require the use of a press when
> >being used to convert a TJ.
>
> My JB conversion kit did not require the use of a press either. I also
found
> that with the T case completely out, it was much easier to work on, as I
didn't
> need to remove the shift fork assemblies since I was working on it
vertically.
> This is especially helpful when re-installing the oil pump and pickup
tube. I
> removed the T case using my floor jack, a large piece of lumber and a
couple of
> ratchet straps.
>
> I did a little writeup on my conversion at
> http://www.geocities.com/basscraft.geo/sye.html
>
> Nathan C. also was kind enough to include it in his Tech page
>
> http://7slotgrille.com/tech/sye2/index.html
>
> Good Luck
>
>
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
>
>
>
>
else for a good old fashioned flaming on this thread, albeit off topic. I
enjoyed reading through all of the replies.
I am a GM dealer mechanic, so the NP231 is definitely not a stranger to me.
I have had dozens of them apart, and I don't have any qualms about working
on mine. I have just never done a short shaft kit in one, and I was looking
for some affirmation from the group that it will be a good mod. At ~$500, I
would hate to be disappointed.
I absolutely plan to take the case out of the Jeep -- yeah, Bill, it's a
Jeep. These things go back together so much easier when the output shaft is
pointing to the sky instead of in your face. This method also prevents
broken magnets, pump tangs, etc. Bob, I suggest you try it the other way,
if you ever end up doing another one. It is only a few bolts that hold it
onto the trans vs. the headache of trying to overcome gravity while
reassembling. Also, it only weighs about 50 lbs, not as heavy as it looks.
I find it awkward to try and get that thing on a jack, I usually just stab
them over my head on the lift.
I suspect that AA and JB are pretty comparable units. Did ya have to get a
driveshaft measurement to give them over the phone, or is it something that
they already know based on the vehicle build? One website I visited talked
about measuring from the rear case to the rear axle pinion.
Again, thanks to everyone for your help and input. I feel alot better about
spending the dough now.
On a different topic, I bought a Dana 44 today. It has 6 lug axles. I will
post a new thread on this, but what is the common thought on 6-lug vs.
5x4.5? My first thought was to get some aftermarket axles with the correct
lug pattern, but after mulling it for awhile, I started to think that maybe
I should go to six lug. What does the rest of the world do?
Jerry
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
news:20031031153734.28496.00001618@mb-m18.aol.com...
> In article <47b769ae.0310311214.317a65cd@posting.google.com >,
magicclaw@mac.com
> (Bob) writes:
>
> >Seeing as I JUST did this mod, I have fresh on my mind some tips for
> >you.
>
> Excellent post Bob. One thing...I'm not sure about your assertion:
>
> >I chose the
> >AA over the JB because the AA DOES NOT require the use of a press when
> >being used to convert a TJ.
>
> My JB conversion kit did not require the use of a press either. I also
found
> that with the T case completely out, it was much easier to work on, as I
didn't
> need to remove the shift fork assemblies since I was working on it
vertically.
> This is especially helpful when re-installing the oil pump and pickup
tube. I
> removed the T case using my floor jack, a large piece of lumber and a
couple of
> ratchet straps.
>
> I did a little writeup on my conversion at
> http://www.geocities.com/basscraft.geo/sye.html
>
> Nathan C. also was kind enough to include it in his Tech page
>
> http://7slotgrille.com/tech/sye2/index.html
>
> Good Luck
>
>
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
>
>
>
>
#235
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Slip Yoke Eliminator
Thanks, Bob and Matt, for the useful information, and thanks to everyone
else for a good old fashioned flaming on this thread, albeit off topic. I
enjoyed reading through all of the replies.
I am a GM dealer mechanic, so the NP231 is definitely not a stranger to me.
I have had dozens of them apart, and I don't have any qualms about working
on mine. I have just never done a short shaft kit in one, and I was looking
for some affirmation from the group that it will be a good mod. At ~$500, I
would hate to be disappointed.
I absolutely plan to take the case out of the Jeep -- yeah, Bill, it's a
Jeep. These things go back together so much easier when the output shaft is
pointing to the sky instead of in your face. This method also prevents
broken magnets, pump tangs, etc. Bob, I suggest you try it the other way,
if you ever end up doing another one. It is only a few bolts that hold it
onto the trans vs. the headache of trying to overcome gravity while
reassembling. Also, it only weighs about 50 lbs, not as heavy as it looks.
I find it awkward to try and get that thing on a jack, I usually just stab
them over my head on the lift.
I suspect that AA and JB are pretty comparable units. Did ya have to get a
driveshaft measurement to give them over the phone, or is it something that
they already know based on the vehicle build? One website I visited talked
about measuring from the rear case to the rear axle pinion.
Again, thanks to everyone for your help and input. I feel alot better about
spending the dough now.
On a different topic, I bought a Dana 44 today. It has 6 lug axles. I will
post a new thread on this, but what is the common thought on 6-lug vs.
5x4.5? My first thought was to get some aftermarket axles with the correct
lug pattern, but after mulling it for awhile, I started to think that maybe
I should go to six lug. What does the rest of the world do?
Jerry
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
news:20031031153734.28496.00001618@mb-m18.aol.com...
> In article <47b769ae.0310311214.317a65cd@posting.google.com >,
magicclaw@mac.com
> (Bob) writes:
>
> >Seeing as I JUST did this mod, I have fresh on my mind some tips for
> >you.
>
> Excellent post Bob. One thing...I'm not sure about your assertion:
>
> >I chose the
> >AA over the JB because the AA DOES NOT require the use of a press when
> >being used to convert a TJ.
>
> My JB conversion kit did not require the use of a press either. I also
found
> that with the T case completely out, it was much easier to work on, as I
didn't
> need to remove the shift fork assemblies since I was working on it
vertically.
> This is especially helpful when re-installing the oil pump and pickup
tube. I
> removed the T case using my floor jack, a large piece of lumber and a
couple of
> ratchet straps.
>
> I did a little writeup on my conversion at
> http://www.geocities.com/basscraft.geo/sye.html
>
> Nathan C. also was kind enough to include it in his Tech page
>
> http://7slotgrille.com/tech/sye2/index.html
>
> Good Luck
>
>
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
>
>
>
>
else for a good old fashioned flaming on this thread, albeit off topic. I
enjoyed reading through all of the replies.
I am a GM dealer mechanic, so the NP231 is definitely not a stranger to me.
I have had dozens of them apart, and I don't have any qualms about working
on mine. I have just never done a short shaft kit in one, and I was looking
for some affirmation from the group that it will be a good mod. At ~$500, I
would hate to be disappointed.
I absolutely plan to take the case out of the Jeep -- yeah, Bill, it's a
Jeep. These things go back together so much easier when the output shaft is
pointing to the sky instead of in your face. This method also prevents
broken magnets, pump tangs, etc. Bob, I suggest you try it the other way,
if you ever end up doing another one. It is only a few bolts that hold it
onto the trans vs. the headache of trying to overcome gravity while
reassembling. Also, it only weighs about 50 lbs, not as heavy as it looks.
I find it awkward to try and get that thing on a jack, I usually just stab
them over my head on the lift.
I suspect that AA and JB are pretty comparable units. Did ya have to get a
driveshaft measurement to give them over the phone, or is it something that
they already know based on the vehicle build? One website I visited talked
about measuring from the rear case to the rear axle pinion.
Again, thanks to everyone for your help and input. I feel alot better about
spending the dough now.
On a different topic, I bought a Dana 44 today. It has 6 lug axles. I will
post a new thread on this, but what is the common thought on 6-lug vs.
5x4.5? My first thought was to get some aftermarket axles with the correct
lug pattern, but after mulling it for awhile, I started to think that maybe
I should go to six lug. What does the rest of the world do?
Jerry
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
news:20031031153734.28496.00001618@mb-m18.aol.com...
> In article <47b769ae.0310311214.317a65cd@posting.google.com >,
magicclaw@mac.com
> (Bob) writes:
>
> >Seeing as I JUST did this mod, I have fresh on my mind some tips for
> >you.
>
> Excellent post Bob. One thing...I'm not sure about your assertion:
>
> >I chose the
> >AA over the JB because the AA DOES NOT require the use of a press when
> >being used to convert a TJ.
>
> My JB conversion kit did not require the use of a press either. I also
found
> that with the T case completely out, it was much easier to work on, as I
didn't
> need to remove the shift fork assemblies since I was working on it
vertically.
> This is especially helpful when re-installing the oil pump and pickup
tube. I
> removed the T case using my floor jack, a large piece of lumber and a
couple of
> ratchet straps.
>
> I did a little writeup on my conversion at
> http://www.geocities.com/basscraft.geo/sye.html
>
> Nathan C. also was kind enough to include it in his Tech page
>
> http://7slotgrille.com/tech/sye2/index.html
>
> Good Luck
>
>
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
>
>
>
>
#236
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Re: Slip Yoke Eliminator
In message <L8idnYM0lIjq1zmiRVn-vg@comcast.com>, "TJim" wrote:
>Bzzzzzt! Nope! The only posts I see that L.W. generates are the ones that
>are included in the responses.
Prove it.
I wouldn't normally bother with his tripe,
>but I find the fact that it seems to be L.W. vs. everyone else. LOL!
>
>--
>Jim
>Bzzzzzt! Nope! The only posts I see that L.W. generates are the ones that
>are included in the responses.
Prove it.
I wouldn't normally bother with his tripe,
>but I find the fact that it seems to be L.W. vs. everyone else. LOL!
>
>--
>Jim
#237
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Re: Slip Yoke Eliminator
In message <L8idnYM0lIjq1zmiRVn-vg@comcast.com>, "TJim" wrote:
>Bzzzzzt! Nope! The only posts I see that L.W. generates are the ones that
>are included in the responses.
Prove it.
I wouldn't normally bother with his tripe,
>but I find the fact that it seems to be L.W. vs. everyone else. LOL!
>
>--
>Jim
>Bzzzzzt! Nope! The only posts I see that L.W. generates are the ones that
>are included in the responses.
Prove it.
I wouldn't normally bother with his tripe,
>but I find the fact that it seems to be L.W. vs. everyone else. LOL!
>
>--
>Jim
#238
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Re: Slip Yoke Eliminator
In message <L8idnYM0lIjq1zmiRVn-vg@comcast.com>, "TJim" wrote:
>Bzzzzzt! Nope! The only posts I see that L.W. generates are the ones that
>are included in the responses.
Prove it.
I wouldn't normally bother with his tripe,
>but I find the fact that it seems to be L.W. vs. everyone else. LOL!
>
>--
>Jim
>Bzzzzzt! Nope! The only posts I see that L.W. generates are the ones that
>are included in the responses.
Prove it.
I wouldn't normally bother with his tripe,
>but I find the fact that it seems to be L.W. vs. everyone else. LOL!
>
>--
>Jim
#239
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Re: Slip Yoke Eliminator
In message <3FA44AE5.D057DCB7@***.net>, "L.W." wrote:
>Jim, will claim, because they're quoted, but many times he'll be the
>only one that'll grab the bait. :-)
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
LOL
>bllsht wrote:
>>
>> He just hides behind the *threatened* use of filters. We all know he still
>> reads every word you utter here.
>Jim, will claim, because they're quoted, but many times he'll be the
>only one that'll grab the bait. :-)
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
LOL
>bllsht wrote:
>>
>> He just hides behind the *threatened* use of filters. We all know he still
>> reads every word you utter here.
#240
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Re: Slip Yoke Eliminator
In message <3FA44AE5.D057DCB7@***.net>, "L.W." wrote:
>Jim, will claim, because they're quoted, but many times he'll be the
>only one that'll grab the bait. :-)
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
LOL
>bllsht wrote:
>>
>> He just hides behind the *threatened* use of filters. We all know he still
>> reads every word you utter here.
>Jim, will claim, because they're quoted, but many times he'll be the
>only one that'll grab the bait. :-)
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
LOL
>bllsht wrote:
>>
>> He just hides behind the *threatened* use of filters. We all know he still
>> reads every word you utter here.