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Matt Macchiarolo 10-04-2006 05:10 PM

Re: Shakin' 98' Wrangler
 
You forgot fucsia. ;-)

"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:dFDUg.963$gL.263@southeast.rr.com...
> billy billy billy, how shockingly unPC can you be <G>.
>
> Jeff DeWitt (only thing PC about me runs Windows)
>
> billy ray wrote:
>> I wonder if they sell to decals with that pattern in San Francisco, South
>> Miami, and New York......
>>
>> I would be concerned that would cause the Jeep to sway back and forth or
>> sashay....
>>
>>
>> "Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message
>> news:5ozUg.2317$6S2.782@trndny02...
>>
>>>Best to Worst....
>>>
>>>Red
>>>Orange
>>>Yellow
>>>Green
>>>Blue
>>>Lavinder
>>>Indego
>>>Violet
>>>
>>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>>news:c8d5c$4522c157$422afc51$24986@FUSE.NET.. .
>>>
>>>>Does that mean if I just spray paint mine it will work better?
>>>>
>>>>What are the colors in rank of 'superiority'?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:4522b275$0$11314$a82e2bb9@reader.athenane ws.com...
>>>>
>>>>>Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason they
>>>>>originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right", and
>>>
>>>go
>>>
>>>>>into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny
>>>
>>>white
>>>
>>>>>or
>>>>>red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they do.
>>>>>
>>>>>Earle
>>>>>
>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>
>>>>>>I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently
>>>>>>figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod
>>>>>>flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I had
>>>>>>and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I have
>>>>>>owned it. LOL!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the
>>>>>>stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can mask
>>>>>
>>>>>issues,
>>>>>
>>>>>>>for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing causing
>>>
>>>a
>>>
>>>>>>>problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the
>>>
>>>shiny
>>>
>>>>>rod
>>>>>
>>>>>>>goes into the cylinder.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Earle
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>>>>road or snap something so you lose control.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire in
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to the
>>>>>>>>passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the
>>>>>>>>wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle. It
>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>
>>>>>a
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look
>>>
>>>close
>>>
>>>>>>>>when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground in
>>>>>
>>>>>front
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels
>>>>>
>>>>>should
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side
>>>
>>>compared
>>>
>>>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it
>>>>>>>>only
>>>>>>>>masks issues, it won't be the cause.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>>Jan/06
>>>
>>>http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>
>>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Rachel wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me thus
>>>>>
>>>>>far.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am
>>>>>
>>>>>aproaching
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a
>>>
>>>washing
>>>
>>>>>>>>>machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front
>>>>>
>>>>>center
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest
>>>
>>>ride
>>>
>>>>>but
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>this not just the typical ride of the car.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home
>>>
>>>from
>>>
>>>>>>>>>college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this
>>>
>>>trip
>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any
>>>>>
>>>>>suggestions
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>would be greatly appreciated!!
>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>



Rachel 10-05-2006 01:28 PM

Re: Shakin' 98' Wrangler
 
My dad has previously rotated the tires and replaced the stablizer-it
was a shiny yellow one I know it's not at the top of the color chart
but at least its not a violet one. So he's going to check out some of
your other suggestions when I go home this weekend. Thanks for all of
your help guys


Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> You forgot fucsia. ;-)
>
> "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:dFDUg.963$gL.263@southeast.rr.com...
> > billy billy billy, how shockingly unPC can you be <G>.
> >
> > Jeff DeWitt (only thing PC about me runs Windows)
> >
> > billy ray wrote:
> >> I wonder if they sell to decals with that pattern in San Francisco, South
> >> Miami, and New York......
> >>
> >> I would be concerned that would cause the Jeep to sway back and forth or
> >> sashay....
> >>
> >>
> >> "Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message
> >> news:5ozUg.2317$6S2.782@trndny02...
> >>
> >>>Best to Worst....
> >>>
> >>>Red
> >>>Orange
> >>>Yellow
> >>>Green
> >>>Blue
> >>>Lavinder
> >>>Indego
> >>>Violet
> >>>
> >>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:c8d5c$4522c157$422afc51$24986@FUSE.NET.. .
> >>>
> >>>>Does that mean if I just spray paint mine it will work better?
> >>>>
> >>>>What are the colors in rank of 'superiority'?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:4522b275$0$11314$a82e2bb9@reader.athenane ws.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>>Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason they
> >>>>>originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right", and
> >>>
> >>>go
> >>>
> >>>>>into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny
> >>>
> >>>white
> >>>
> >>>>>or
> >>>>>red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they do.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Earle
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently
> >>>>>>figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod
> >>>>>>flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I had
> >>>>>>and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I have
> >>>>>>owned it. LOL!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the
> >>>>>>stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Mike
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Earle Horton wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can mask
> >>>>>
> >>>>>issues,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing causing
> >>>
> >>>a
> >>>
> >>>>>>>problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the
> >>>
> >>>shiny
> >>>
> >>>>>rod
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>goes into the cylinder.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Earle
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off
> >>>
> >>>the
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>road or snap something so you lose control.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire in
> >>>>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>>front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to the
> >>>>>>>>passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the
> >>>>>>>>wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle. It
> >>>>>>>>is
> >>>>>
> >>>>>a
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look
> >>>
> >>>close
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground in
> >>>>>
> >>>>>front
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels
> >>>>>
> >>>>>should
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side
> >>>
> >>>compared
> >>>
> >>>>>to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it
> >>>>>>>>only
> >>>>>>>>masks issues, it won't be the cause.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Mike
> >>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>>>>>>>Jan/06
> >>>
> >>>http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Rachel wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me thus
> >>>>>
> >>>>>far.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am
> >>>>>
> >>>>>aproaching
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a
> >>>
> >>>washing
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front
> >>>>>
> >>>>>center
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest
> >>>
> >>>ride
> >>>
> >>>>>but
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>this not just the typical ride of the car.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home
> >>>
> >>>from
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this
> >>>
> >>>trip
> >>>
> >>>>>the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any
> >>>>>
> >>>>>suggestions
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>would be greatly appreciated!!
> >>>>>>>>> thanks
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>



Rachel 10-05-2006 01:28 PM

Re: Shakin' 98' Wrangler
 
My dad has previously rotated the tires and replaced the stablizer-it
was a shiny yellow one I know it's not at the top of the color chart
but at least its not a violet one. So he's going to check out some of
your other suggestions when I go home this weekend. Thanks for all of
your help guys


Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> You forgot fucsia. ;-)
>
> "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:dFDUg.963$gL.263@southeast.rr.com...
> > billy billy billy, how shockingly unPC can you be <G>.
> >
> > Jeff DeWitt (only thing PC about me runs Windows)
> >
> > billy ray wrote:
> >> I wonder if they sell to decals with that pattern in San Francisco, South
> >> Miami, and New York......
> >>
> >> I would be concerned that would cause the Jeep to sway back and forth or
> >> sashay....
> >>
> >>
> >> "Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message
> >> news:5ozUg.2317$6S2.782@trndny02...
> >>
> >>>Best to Worst....
> >>>
> >>>Red
> >>>Orange
> >>>Yellow
> >>>Green
> >>>Blue
> >>>Lavinder
> >>>Indego
> >>>Violet
> >>>
> >>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:c8d5c$4522c157$422afc51$24986@FUSE.NET.. .
> >>>
> >>>>Does that mean if I just spray paint mine it will work better?
> >>>>
> >>>>What are the colors in rank of 'superiority'?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:4522b275$0$11314$a82e2bb9@reader.athenane ws.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>>Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason they
> >>>>>originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right", and
> >>>
> >>>go
> >>>
> >>>>>into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny
> >>>
> >>>white
> >>>
> >>>>>or
> >>>>>red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they do.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Earle
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently
> >>>>>>figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod
> >>>>>>flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I had
> >>>>>>and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I have
> >>>>>>owned it. LOL!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the
> >>>>>>stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Mike
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Earle Horton wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can mask
> >>>>>
> >>>>>issues,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing causing
> >>>
> >>>a
> >>>
> >>>>>>>problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the
> >>>
> >>>shiny
> >>>
> >>>>>rod
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>goes into the cylinder.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Earle
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off
> >>>
> >>>the
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>road or snap something so you lose control.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire in
> >>>>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>>front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to the
> >>>>>>>>passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the
> >>>>>>>>wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle. It
> >>>>>>>>is
> >>>>>
> >>>>>a
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look
> >>>
> >>>close
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground in
> >>>>>
> >>>>>front
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels
> >>>>>
> >>>>>should
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side
> >>>
> >>>compared
> >>>
> >>>>>to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it
> >>>>>>>>only
> >>>>>>>>masks issues, it won't be the cause.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Mike
> >>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>>>>>>>Jan/06
> >>>
> >>>http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Rachel wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me thus
> >>>>>
> >>>>>far.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am
> >>>>>
> >>>>>aproaching
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a
> >>>
> >>>washing
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front
> >>>>>
> >>>>>center
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest
> >>>
> >>>ride
> >>>
> >>>>>but
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>this not just the typical ride of the car.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home
> >>>
> >>>from
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this
> >>>
> >>>trip
> >>>
> >>>>>the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any
> >>>>>
> >>>>>suggestions
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>would be greatly appreciated!!
> >>>>>>>>> thanks
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>



Rachel 10-05-2006 01:28 PM

Re: Shakin' 98' Wrangler
 
My dad has previously rotated the tires and replaced the stablizer-it
was a shiny yellow one I know it's not at the top of the color chart
but at least its not a violet one. So he's going to check out some of
your other suggestions when I go home this weekend. Thanks for all of
your help guys


Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> You forgot fucsia. ;-)
>
> "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:dFDUg.963$gL.263@southeast.rr.com...
> > billy billy billy, how shockingly unPC can you be <G>.
> >
> > Jeff DeWitt (only thing PC about me runs Windows)
> >
> > billy ray wrote:
> >> I wonder if they sell to decals with that pattern in San Francisco, South
> >> Miami, and New York......
> >>
> >> I would be concerned that would cause the Jeep to sway back and forth or
> >> sashay....
> >>
> >>
> >> "Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message
> >> news:5ozUg.2317$6S2.782@trndny02...
> >>
> >>>Best to Worst....
> >>>
> >>>Red
> >>>Orange
> >>>Yellow
> >>>Green
> >>>Blue
> >>>Lavinder
> >>>Indego
> >>>Violet
> >>>
> >>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:c8d5c$4522c157$422afc51$24986@FUSE.NET.. .
> >>>
> >>>>Does that mean if I just spray paint mine it will work better?
> >>>>
> >>>>What are the colors in rank of 'superiority'?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:4522b275$0$11314$a82e2bb9@reader.athenane ws.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>>Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason they
> >>>>>originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right", and
> >>>
> >>>go
> >>>
> >>>>>into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny
> >>>
> >>>white
> >>>
> >>>>>or
> >>>>>red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they do.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Earle
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently
> >>>>>>figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod
> >>>>>>flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I had
> >>>>>>and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I have
> >>>>>>owned it. LOL!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the
> >>>>>>stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Mike
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Earle Horton wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can mask
> >>>>>
> >>>>>issues,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing causing
> >>>
> >>>a
> >>>
> >>>>>>>problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the
> >>>
> >>>shiny
> >>>
> >>>>>rod
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>goes into the cylinder.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Earle
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off
> >>>
> >>>the
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>road or snap something so you lose control.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire in
> >>>>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>>front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to the
> >>>>>>>>passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the
> >>>>>>>>wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle. It
> >>>>>>>>is
> >>>>>
> >>>>>a
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look
> >>>
> >>>close
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground in
> >>>>>
> >>>>>front
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels
> >>>>>
> >>>>>should
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side
> >>>
> >>>compared
> >>>
> >>>>>to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it
> >>>>>>>>only
> >>>>>>>>masks issues, it won't be the cause.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Mike
> >>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>>>>>>>Jan/06
> >>>
> >>>http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Rachel wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me thus
> >>>>>
> >>>>>far.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am
> >>>>>
> >>>>>aproaching
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a
> >>>
> >>>washing
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front
> >>>>>
> >>>>>center
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest
> >>>
> >>>ride
> >>>
> >>>>>but
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>this not just the typical ride of the car.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home
> >>>
> >>>from
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this
> >>>
> >>>trip
> >>>
> >>>>>the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any
> >>>>>
> >>>>>suggestions
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>would be greatly appreciated!!
> >>>>>>>>> thanks
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>



billy ray 10-05-2006 04:09 PM

Re: Shakin' 98' Wrangler
 
And here I have been spray painting everything underneath the Jeep black...


"Rachel" <sassal87@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1160069298.817906.141180@c28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> My dad has previously rotated the tires and replaced the stablizer-it
> was a shiny yellow one I know it's not at the top of the color chart
> but at least its not a violet one. So he's going to check out some of
> your other suggestions when I go home this weekend. Thanks for all of
> your help guys
>
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> You forgot fucsia. ;-)
>>
>> "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:dFDUg.963$gL.263@southeast.rr.com...
>> > billy billy billy, how shockingly unPC can you be <G>.
>> >
>> > Jeff DeWitt (only thing PC about me runs Windows)
>> >
>> > billy ray wrote:
>> >> I wonder if they sell to decals with that pattern in San Francisco,
>> >> South
>> >> Miami, and New York......
>> >>
>> >> I would be concerned that would cause the Jeep to sway back and forth
>> >> or
>> >> sashay....
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:5ozUg.2317$6S2.782@trndny02...
>> >>
>> >>>Best to Worst....
>> >>>
>> >>>Red
>> >>>Orange
>> >>>Yellow
>> >>>Green
>> >>>Blue
>> >>>Lavinder
>> >>>Indego
>> >>>Violet
>> >>>
>> >>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> >>>news:c8d5c$4522c157$422afc51$24986@FUSE.NET.. .
>> >>>
>> >>>>Does that mean if I just spray paint mine it will work better?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>What are the colors in rank of 'superiority'?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>news:4522b275$0$11314$a82e2bb9@reader.athenane ws.com...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason
>> >>>>>they
>> >>>>>originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right",
>> >>>>>and
>> >>>
>> >>>go
>> >>>
>> >>>>>into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny
>> >>>
>> >>>white
>> >>>
>> >>>>>or
>> >>>>>red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they
>> >>>>>do.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Earle
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >>>>>news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently
>> >>>>>>figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod
>> >>>>>>flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I
>> >>>>>>had
>> >>>>>>and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I
>> >>>>>>have
>> >>>>>>owned it. LOL!
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the
>> >>>>>>stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Mike
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Earle Horton wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can
>> >>>>>>>mask
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>issues,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing
>> >>>>>>>causing
>> >>>
>> >>>a
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the
>> >>>
>> >>>shiny
>> >>>
>> >>>>>rod
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>goes into the cylinder.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>Earle
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca...
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off
>> >>>
>> >>>the
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>road or snap something so you lose control.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire
>> >>>>>>>>in
>> >>>>>>>>the
>> >>>>>>>>front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to
>> >>>>>>>>the
>> >>>>>>>>passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the
>> >>>>>>>>wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle.
>> >>>>>>>>It
>> >>>>>>>>is
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>a
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look
>> >>>
>> >>>close
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground
>> >>>>>>>>in
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>front
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>should
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side
>> >>>
>> >>>compared
>> >>>
>> >>>>>to
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it
>> >>>>>>>>only
>> >>>>>>>>masks issues, it won't be the cause.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>Mike
>> >>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >>>>>>>>Jan/06
>> >>>
>> >>>http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>Rachel wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me
>> >>>>>>>>>thus
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>far.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>aproaching
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a
>> >>>
>> >>>washing
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>center
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest
>> >>>
>> >>>ride
>> >>>
>> >>>>>but
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>this not just the typical ride of the car.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home
>> >>>
>> >>>from
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this
>> >>>
>> >>>trip
>> >>>
>> >>>>>the
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>suggestions
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>would be greatly appreciated!!
>> >>>>>>>>> thanks
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>

>




billy ray 10-05-2006 04:09 PM

Re: Shakin' 98' Wrangler
 
And here I have been spray painting everything underneath the Jeep black...


"Rachel" <sassal87@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1160069298.817906.141180@c28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> My dad has previously rotated the tires and replaced the stablizer-it
> was a shiny yellow one I know it's not at the top of the color chart
> but at least its not a violet one. So he's going to check out some of
> your other suggestions when I go home this weekend. Thanks for all of
> your help guys
>
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> You forgot fucsia. ;-)
>>
>> "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:dFDUg.963$gL.263@southeast.rr.com...
>> > billy billy billy, how shockingly unPC can you be <G>.
>> >
>> > Jeff DeWitt (only thing PC about me runs Windows)
>> >
>> > billy ray wrote:
>> >> I wonder if they sell to decals with that pattern in San Francisco,
>> >> South
>> >> Miami, and New York......
>> >>
>> >> I would be concerned that would cause the Jeep to sway back and forth
>> >> or
>> >> sashay....
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:5ozUg.2317$6S2.782@trndny02...
>> >>
>> >>>Best to Worst....
>> >>>
>> >>>Red
>> >>>Orange
>> >>>Yellow
>> >>>Green
>> >>>Blue
>> >>>Lavinder
>> >>>Indego
>> >>>Violet
>> >>>
>> >>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> >>>news:c8d5c$4522c157$422afc51$24986@FUSE.NET.. .
>> >>>
>> >>>>Does that mean if I just spray paint mine it will work better?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>What are the colors in rank of 'superiority'?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>news:4522b275$0$11314$a82e2bb9@reader.athenane ws.com...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason
>> >>>>>they
>> >>>>>originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right",
>> >>>>>and
>> >>>
>> >>>go
>> >>>
>> >>>>>into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny
>> >>>
>> >>>white
>> >>>
>> >>>>>or
>> >>>>>red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they
>> >>>>>do.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Earle
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >>>>>news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently
>> >>>>>>figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod
>> >>>>>>flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I
>> >>>>>>had
>> >>>>>>and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I
>> >>>>>>have
>> >>>>>>owned it. LOL!
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the
>> >>>>>>stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Mike
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Earle Horton wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can
>> >>>>>>>mask
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>issues,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing
>> >>>>>>>causing
>> >>>
>> >>>a
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the
>> >>>
>> >>>shiny
>> >>>
>> >>>>>rod
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>goes into the cylinder.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>Earle
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca...
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off
>> >>>
>> >>>the
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>road or snap something so you lose control.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire
>> >>>>>>>>in
>> >>>>>>>>the
>> >>>>>>>>front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to
>> >>>>>>>>the
>> >>>>>>>>passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the
>> >>>>>>>>wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle.
>> >>>>>>>>It
>> >>>>>>>>is
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>a
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look
>> >>>
>> >>>close
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground
>> >>>>>>>>in
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>front
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>should
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side
>> >>>
>> >>>compared
>> >>>
>> >>>>>to
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it
>> >>>>>>>>only
>> >>>>>>>>masks issues, it won't be the cause.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>Mike
>> >>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >>>>>>>>Jan/06
>> >>>
>> >>>http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>Rachel wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me
>> >>>>>>>>>thus
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>far.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>aproaching
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a
>> >>>
>> >>>washing
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>center
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest
>> >>>
>> >>>ride
>> >>>
>> >>>>>but
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>this not just the typical ride of the car.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home
>> >>>
>> >>>from
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this
>> >>>
>> >>>trip
>> >>>
>> >>>>>the
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>suggestions
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>would be greatly appreciated!!
>> >>>>>>>>> thanks
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>

>




billy ray 10-05-2006 04:09 PM

Re: Shakin' 98' Wrangler
 
And here I have been spray painting everything underneath the Jeep black...


"Rachel" <sassal87@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1160069298.817906.141180@c28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> My dad has previously rotated the tires and replaced the stablizer-it
> was a shiny yellow one I know it's not at the top of the color chart
> but at least its not a violet one. So he's going to check out some of
> your other suggestions when I go home this weekend. Thanks for all of
> your help guys
>
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> You forgot fucsia. ;-)
>>
>> "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:dFDUg.963$gL.263@southeast.rr.com...
>> > billy billy billy, how shockingly unPC can you be <G>.
>> >
>> > Jeff DeWitt (only thing PC about me runs Windows)
>> >
>> > billy ray wrote:
>> >> I wonder if they sell to decals with that pattern in San Francisco,
>> >> South
>> >> Miami, and New York......
>> >>
>> >> I would be concerned that would cause the Jeep to sway back and forth
>> >> or
>> >> sashay....
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:5ozUg.2317$6S2.782@trndny02...
>> >>
>> >>>Best to Worst....
>> >>>
>> >>>Red
>> >>>Orange
>> >>>Yellow
>> >>>Green
>> >>>Blue
>> >>>Lavinder
>> >>>Indego
>> >>>Violet
>> >>>
>> >>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> >>>news:c8d5c$4522c157$422afc51$24986@FUSE.NET.. .
>> >>>
>> >>>>Does that mean if I just spray paint mine it will work better?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>What are the colors in rank of 'superiority'?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>news:4522b275$0$11314$a82e2bb9@reader.athenane ws.com...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason
>> >>>>>they
>> >>>>>originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right",
>> >>>>>and
>> >>>
>> >>>go
>> >>>
>> >>>>>into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny
>> >>>
>> >>>white
>> >>>
>> >>>>>or
>> >>>>>red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they
>> >>>>>do.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Earle
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >>>>>news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently
>> >>>>>>figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod
>> >>>>>>flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I
>> >>>>>>had
>> >>>>>>and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I
>> >>>>>>have
>> >>>>>>owned it. LOL!
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the
>> >>>>>>stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Mike
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Earle Horton wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can
>> >>>>>>>mask
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>issues,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing
>> >>>>>>>causing
>> >>>
>> >>>a
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the
>> >>>
>> >>>shiny
>> >>>
>> >>>>>rod
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>goes into the cylinder.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>Earle
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca...
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off
>> >>>
>> >>>the
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>road or snap something so you lose control.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire
>> >>>>>>>>in
>> >>>>>>>>the
>> >>>>>>>>front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to
>> >>>>>>>>the
>> >>>>>>>>passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the
>> >>>>>>>>wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle.
>> >>>>>>>>It
>> >>>>>>>>is
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>a
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look
>> >>>
>> >>>close
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground
>> >>>>>>>>in
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>front
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>should
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side
>> >>>
>> >>>compared
>> >>>
>> >>>>>to
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it
>> >>>>>>>>only
>> >>>>>>>>masks issues, it won't be the cause.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>Mike
>> >>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >>>>>>>>Jan/06
>> >>>
>> >>>http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>Rachel wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me
>> >>>>>>>>>thus
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>far.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>aproaching
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a
>> >>>
>> >>>washing
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>center
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest
>> >>>
>> >>>ride
>> >>>
>> >>>>>but
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>this not just the typical ride of the car.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home
>> >>>
>> >>>from
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this
>> >>>
>> >>>trip
>> >>>
>> >>>>>the
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>suggestions
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>would be greatly appreciated!!
>> >>>>>>>>> thanks
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>

>





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