Re: Shakin' 98' Wrangler
You forgot fucsia. ;-)
"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message news:dFDUg.963$gL.263@southeast.rr.com... > billy billy billy, how shockingly unPC can you be <G>. > > Jeff DeWitt (only thing PC about me runs Windows) > > billy ray wrote: >> I wonder if they sell to decals with that pattern in San Francisco, South >> Miami, and New York...... >> >> I would be concerned that would cause the Jeep to sway back and forth or >> sashay.... >> >> >> "Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message >> news:5ozUg.2317$6S2.782@trndny02... >> >>>Best to Worst.... >>> >>>Red >>>Orange >>>Yellow >>>Green >>>Blue >>>Lavinder >>>Indego >>>Violet >>> >>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message >>>news:c8d5c$4522c157$422afc51$24986@FUSE.NET.. . >>> >>>>Does that mean if I just spray paint mine it will work better? >>>> >>>>What are the colors in rank of 'superiority'? >>>> >>>> >>>>"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message >>>>news:4522b275$0$11314$a82e2bb9@reader.athenane ws.com... >>>> >>>>>Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason they >>>>>originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right", and >>> >>>go >>> >>>>>into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny >>> >>>white >>> >>>>>or >>>>>red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they do. >>>>> >>>>>Earle >>>>> >>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >>>>>news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca... >>>>> >>>>>>I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently >>>>>>figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod >>>>>>flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I had >>>>>>and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I have >>>>>>owned it. LOL! >>>>>> >>>>>>Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the >>>>>>stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think. >>>>>> >>>>>>Mike >>>>>> >>>>>>Earle Horton wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can mask >>>>> >>>>>issues, >>>>> >>>>>>>for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing causing >>> >>>a >>> >>>>>>>problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the >>> >>>shiny >>> >>>>>rod >>>>> >>>>>>>goes into the cylinder. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Earle >>>>>>> >>>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >>>>>>>news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off >>> >>>the >>> >>>>>>>>road or snap something so you lose control. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire in >>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to the >>>>>>>>passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the >>>>>>>>wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle. It >>>>>>>>is >>>>> >>>>>a >>>>> >>>>>>>>bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look >>> >>>close >>> >>>>>>>>when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground in >>>>> >>>>>front >>>>> >>>>>>>>and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels >>>>> >>>>>should >>>>> >>>>>>>>turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side >>> >>>compared >>> >>>>>to >>>>> >>>>>>>>the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it >>>>>>>>only >>>>>>>>masks issues, it won't be the cause. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Mike >>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >>>>>>>>Jan/06 >>> >>>http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >>> >>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Rachel wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me thus >>>>> >>>>>far. >>>>> >>>>>>>>>The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am >>>>> >>>>>aproaching >>>>> >>>>>>>>>60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a >>> >>>washing >>> >>>>>>>>>machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front >>>>> >>>>>center >>>>> >>>>>>>>>of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest >>> >>>ride >>> >>>>>but >>>>> >>>>>>>>>this not just the typical ride of the car. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home >>> >>>from >>> >>>>>>>>>college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this >>> >>>trip >>> >>>>>the >>>>> >>>>>>>>>shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any >>>>> >>>>>suggestions >>>>> >>>>>>>>>would be greatly appreciated!! >>>>>>>>> thanks >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> |
Re: Shakin' 98' Wrangler
My dad has previously rotated the tires and replaced the stablizer-it
was a shiny yellow one I know it's not at the top of the color chart but at least its not a violet one. So he's going to check out some of your other suggestions when I go home this weekend. Thanks for all of your help guys Matt Macchiarolo wrote: > You forgot fucsia. ;-) > > "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message > news:dFDUg.963$gL.263@southeast.rr.com... > > billy billy billy, how shockingly unPC can you be <G>. > > > > Jeff DeWitt (only thing PC about me runs Windows) > > > > billy ray wrote: > >> I wonder if they sell to decals with that pattern in San Francisco, South > >> Miami, and New York...... > >> > >> I would be concerned that would cause the Jeep to sway back and forth or > >> sashay.... > >> > >> > >> "Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message > >> news:5ozUg.2317$6S2.782@trndny02... > >> > >>>Best to Worst.... > >>> > >>>Red > >>>Orange > >>>Yellow > >>>Green > >>>Blue > >>>Lavinder > >>>Indego > >>>Violet > >>> > >>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > >>>news:c8d5c$4522c157$422afc51$24986@FUSE.NET.. . > >>> > >>>>Does that mean if I just spray paint mine it will work better? > >>>> > >>>>What are the colors in rank of 'superiority'? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message > >>>>news:4522b275$0$11314$a82e2bb9@reader.athenane ws.com... > >>>> > >>>>>Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason they > >>>>>originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right", and > >>> > >>>go > >>> > >>>>>into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny > >>> > >>>white > >>> > >>>>>or > >>>>>red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they do. > >>>>> > >>>>>Earle > >>>>> > >>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > >>>>>news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca... > >>>>> > >>>>>>I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently > >>>>>>figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod > >>>>>>flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I had > >>>>>>and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I have > >>>>>>owned it. LOL! > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the > >>>>>>stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Mike > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Earle Horton wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can mask > >>>>> > >>>>>issues, > >>>>> > >>>>>>>for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing causing > >>> > >>>a > >>> > >>>>>>>problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the > >>> > >>>shiny > >>> > >>>>>rod > >>>>> > >>>>>>>goes into the cylinder. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Earle > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > >>>>>>>news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off > >>> > >>>the > >>> > >>>>>>>>road or snap something so you lose control. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire in > >>>>>>>>the > >>>>>>>>front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to the > >>>>>>>>passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the > >>>>>>>>wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle. It > >>>>>>>>is > >>>>> > >>>>>a > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look > >>> > >>>close > >>> > >>>>>>>>when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground in > >>>>> > >>>>>front > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels > >>>>> > >>>>>should > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side > >>> > >>>compared > >>> > >>>>>to > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it > >>>>>>>>only > >>>>>>>>masks issues, it won't be the cause. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Mike > >>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > >>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > >>>>>>>>Jan/06 > >>> > >>>http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > >>> > >>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Rachel wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me thus > >>>>> > >>>>>far. > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am > >>>>> > >>>>>aproaching > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a > >>> > >>>washing > >>> > >>>>>>>>>machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front > >>>>> > >>>>>center > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest > >>> > >>>ride > >>> > >>>>>but > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>this not just the typical ride of the car. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home > >>> > >>>from > >>> > >>>>>>>>>college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this > >>> > >>>trip > >>> > >>>>>the > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any > >>>>> > >>>>>suggestions > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>would be greatly appreciated!! > >>>>>>>>> thanks > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> |
Re: Shakin' 98' Wrangler
My dad has previously rotated the tires and replaced the stablizer-it
was a shiny yellow one I know it's not at the top of the color chart but at least its not a violet one. So he's going to check out some of your other suggestions when I go home this weekend. Thanks for all of your help guys Matt Macchiarolo wrote: > You forgot fucsia. ;-) > > "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message > news:dFDUg.963$gL.263@southeast.rr.com... > > billy billy billy, how shockingly unPC can you be <G>. > > > > Jeff DeWitt (only thing PC about me runs Windows) > > > > billy ray wrote: > >> I wonder if they sell to decals with that pattern in San Francisco, South > >> Miami, and New York...... > >> > >> I would be concerned that would cause the Jeep to sway back and forth or > >> sashay.... > >> > >> > >> "Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message > >> news:5ozUg.2317$6S2.782@trndny02... > >> > >>>Best to Worst.... > >>> > >>>Red > >>>Orange > >>>Yellow > >>>Green > >>>Blue > >>>Lavinder > >>>Indego > >>>Violet > >>> > >>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > >>>news:c8d5c$4522c157$422afc51$24986@FUSE.NET.. . > >>> > >>>>Does that mean if I just spray paint mine it will work better? > >>>> > >>>>What are the colors in rank of 'superiority'? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message > >>>>news:4522b275$0$11314$a82e2bb9@reader.athenane ws.com... > >>>> > >>>>>Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason they > >>>>>originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right", and > >>> > >>>go > >>> > >>>>>into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny > >>> > >>>white > >>> > >>>>>or > >>>>>red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they do. > >>>>> > >>>>>Earle > >>>>> > >>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > >>>>>news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca... > >>>>> > >>>>>>I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently > >>>>>>figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod > >>>>>>flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I had > >>>>>>and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I have > >>>>>>owned it. LOL! > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the > >>>>>>stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Mike > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Earle Horton wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can mask > >>>>> > >>>>>issues, > >>>>> > >>>>>>>for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing causing > >>> > >>>a > >>> > >>>>>>>problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the > >>> > >>>shiny > >>> > >>>>>rod > >>>>> > >>>>>>>goes into the cylinder. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Earle > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > >>>>>>>news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off > >>> > >>>the > >>> > >>>>>>>>road or snap something so you lose control. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire in > >>>>>>>>the > >>>>>>>>front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to the > >>>>>>>>passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the > >>>>>>>>wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle. It > >>>>>>>>is > >>>>> > >>>>>a > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look > >>> > >>>close > >>> > >>>>>>>>when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground in > >>>>> > >>>>>front > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels > >>>>> > >>>>>should > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side > >>> > >>>compared > >>> > >>>>>to > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it > >>>>>>>>only > >>>>>>>>masks issues, it won't be the cause. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Mike > >>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > >>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > >>>>>>>>Jan/06 > >>> > >>>http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > >>> > >>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Rachel wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me thus > >>>>> > >>>>>far. > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am > >>>>> > >>>>>aproaching > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a > >>> > >>>washing > >>> > >>>>>>>>>machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front > >>>>> > >>>>>center > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest > >>> > >>>ride > >>> > >>>>>but > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>this not just the typical ride of the car. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home > >>> > >>>from > >>> > >>>>>>>>>college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this > >>> > >>>trip > >>> > >>>>>the > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any > >>>>> > >>>>>suggestions > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>would be greatly appreciated!! > >>>>>>>>> thanks > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> |
Re: Shakin' 98' Wrangler
My dad has previously rotated the tires and replaced the stablizer-it
was a shiny yellow one I know it's not at the top of the color chart but at least its not a violet one. So he's going to check out some of your other suggestions when I go home this weekend. Thanks for all of your help guys Matt Macchiarolo wrote: > You forgot fucsia. ;-) > > "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message > news:dFDUg.963$gL.263@southeast.rr.com... > > billy billy billy, how shockingly unPC can you be <G>. > > > > Jeff DeWitt (only thing PC about me runs Windows) > > > > billy ray wrote: > >> I wonder if they sell to decals with that pattern in San Francisco, South > >> Miami, and New York...... > >> > >> I would be concerned that would cause the Jeep to sway back and forth or > >> sashay.... > >> > >> > >> "Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message > >> news:5ozUg.2317$6S2.782@trndny02... > >> > >>>Best to Worst.... > >>> > >>>Red > >>>Orange > >>>Yellow > >>>Green > >>>Blue > >>>Lavinder > >>>Indego > >>>Violet > >>> > >>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > >>>news:c8d5c$4522c157$422afc51$24986@FUSE.NET.. . > >>> > >>>>Does that mean if I just spray paint mine it will work better? > >>>> > >>>>What are the colors in rank of 'superiority'? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message > >>>>news:4522b275$0$11314$a82e2bb9@reader.athenane ws.com... > >>>> > >>>>>Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason they > >>>>>originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right", and > >>> > >>>go > >>> > >>>>>into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny > >>> > >>>white > >>> > >>>>>or > >>>>>red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they do. > >>>>> > >>>>>Earle > >>>>> > >>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > >>>>>news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca... > >>>>> > >>>>>>I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently > >>>>>>figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod > >>>>>>flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I had > >>>>>>and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I have > >>>>>>owned it. LOL! > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the > >>>>>>stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Mike > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Earle Horton wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can mask > >>>>> > >>>>>issues, > >>>>> > >>>>>>>for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing causing > >>> > >>>a > >>> > >>>>>>>problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the > >>> > >>>shiny > >>> > >>>>>rod > >>>>> > >>>>>>>goes into the cylinder. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Earle > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > >>>>>>>news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off > >>> > >>>the > >>> > >>>>>>>>road or snap something so you lose control. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire in > >>>>>>>>the > >>>>>>>>front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to the > >>>>>>>>passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the > >>>>>>>>wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle. It > >>>>>>>>is > >>>>> > >>>>>a > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look > >>> > >>>close > >>> > >>>>>>>>when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground in > >>>>> > >>>>>front > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels > >>>>> > >>>>>should > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side > >>> > >>>compared > >>> > >>>>>to > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it > >>>>>>>>only > >>>>>>>>masks issues, it won't be the cause. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Mike > >>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > >>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > >>>>>>>>Jan/06 > >>> > >>>http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > >>> > >>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Rachel wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me thus > >>>>> > >>>>>far. > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am > >>>>> > >>>>>aproaching > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a > >>> > >>>washing > >>> > >>>>>>>>>machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front > >>>>> > >>>>>center > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest > >>> > >>>ride > >>> > >>>>>but > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>this not just the typical ride of the car. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home > >>> > >>>from > >>> > >>>>>>>>>college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this > >>> > >>>trip > >>> > >>>>>the > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any > >>>>> > >>>>>suggestions > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>would be greatly appreciated!! > >>>>>>>>> thanks > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> |
Re: Shakin' 98' Wrangler
And here I have been spray painting everything underneath the Jeep black...
"Rachel" <sassal87@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1160069298.817906.141180@c28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... > My dad has previously rotated the tires and replaced the stablizer-it > was a shiny yellow one I know it's not at the top of the color chart > but at least its not a violet one. So he's going to check out some of > your other suggestions when I go home this weekend. Thanks for all of > your help guys > > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote: >> You forgot fucsia. ;-) >> >> "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:dFDUg.963$gL.263@southeast.rr.com... >> > billy billy billy, how shockingly unPC can you be <G>. >> > >> > Jeff DeWitt (only thing PC about me runs Windows) >> > >> > billy ray wrote: >> >> I wonder if they sell to decals with that pattern in San Francisco, >> >> South >> >> Miami, and New York...... >> >> >> >> I would be concerned that would cause the Jeep to sway back and forth >> >> or >> >> sashay.... >> >> >> >> >> >> "Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message >> >> news:5ozUg.2317$6S2.782@trndny02... >> >> >> >>>Best to Worst.... >> >>> >> >>>Red >> >>>Orange >> >>>Yellow >> >>>Green >> >>>Blue >> >>>Lavinder >> >>>Indego >> >>>Violet >> >>> >> >>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message >> >>>news:c8d5c$4522c157$422afc51$24986@FUSE.NET.. . >> >>> >> >>>>Does that mean if I just spray paint mine it will work better? >> >>>> >> >>>>What are the colors in rank of 'superiority'? >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message >> >>>>news:4522b275$0$11314$a82e2bb9@reader.athenane ws.com... >> >>>> >> >>>>>Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason >> >>>>>they >> >>>>>originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right", >> >>>>>and >> >>> >> >>>go >> >>> >> >>>>>into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny >> >>> >> >>>white >> >>> >> >>>>>or >> >>>>>red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they >> >>>>>do. >> >>>>> >> >>>>>Earle >> >>>>> >> >>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >> >>>>>news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca... >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently >> >>>>>>figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod >> >>>>>>flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I >> >>>>>>had >> >>>>>>and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I >> >>>>>>have >> >>>>>>owned it. LOL! >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the >> >>>>>>stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>Mike >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>Earle Horton wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can >> >>>>>>>mask >> >>>>> >> >>>>>issues, >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing >> >>>>>>>causing >> >>> >> >>>a >> >>> >> >>>>>>>problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the >> >>> >> >>>shiny >> >>> >> >>>>>rod >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>goes into the cylinder. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>Earle >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >> >>>>>>>news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca... >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off >> >>> >> >>>the >> >>> >> >>>>>>>>road or snap something so you lose control. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire >> >>>>>>>>in >> >>>>>>>>the >> >>>>>>>>front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to >> >>>>>>>>the >> >>>>>>>>passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the >> >>>>>>>>wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle. >> >>>>>>>>It >> >>>>>>>>is >> >>>>> >> >>>>>a >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look >> >>> >> >>>close >> >>> >> >>>>>>>>when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground >> >>>>>>>>in >> >>>>> >> >>>>>front >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels >> >>>>> >> >>>>>should >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side >> >>> >> >>>compared >> >>> >> >>>>>to >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it >> >>>>>>>>only >> >>>>>>>>masks issues, it won't be the cause. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>Mike >> >>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> >>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> >>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> >>>>>>>>Jan/06 >> >>> >> >>>http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >> >>> >> >>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>Rachel wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me >> >>>>>>>>>thus >> >>>>> >> >>>>>far. >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am >> >>>>> >> >>>>>aproaching >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a >> >>> >> >>>washing >> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front >> >>>>> >> >>>>>center >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest >> >>> >> >>>ride >> >>> >> >>>>>but >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>this not just the typical ride of the car. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home >> >>> >> >>>from >> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this >> >>> >> >>>trip >> >>> >> >>>>>the >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any >> >>>>> >> >>>>>suggestions >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>would be greatly appreciated!! >> >>>>>>>>> thanks >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > |
Re: Shakin' 98' Wrangler
And here I have been spray painting everything underneath the Jeep black...
"Rachel" <sassal87@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1160069298.817906.141180@c28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... > My dad has previously rotated the tires and replaced the stablizer-it > was a shiny yellow one I know it's not at the top of the color chart > but at least its not a violet one. So he's going to check out some of > your other suggestions when I go home this weekend. Thanks for all of > your help guys > > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote: >> You forgot fucsia. ;-) >> >> "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:dFDUg.963$gL.263@southeast.rr.com... >> > billy billy billy, how shockingly unPC can you be <G>. >> > >> > Jeff DeWitt (only thing PC about me runs Windows) >> > >> > billy ray wrote: >> >> I wonder if they sell to decals with that pattern in San Francisco, >> >> South >> >> Miami, and New York...... >> >> >> >> I would be concerned that would cause the Jeep to sway back and forth >> >> or >> >> sashay.... >> >> >> >> >> >> "Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message >> >> news:5ozUg.2317$6S2.782@trndny02... >> >> >> >>>Best to Worst.... >> >>> >> >>>Red >> >>>Orange >> >>>Yellow >> >>>Green >> >>>Blue >> >>>Lavinder >> >>>Indego >> >>>Violet >> >>> >> >>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message >> >>>news:c8d5c$4522c157$422afc51$24986@FUSE.NET.. . >> >>> >> >>>>Does that mean if I just spray paint mine it will work better? >> >>>> >> >>>>What are the colors in rank of 'superiority'? >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message >> >>>>news:4522b275$0$11314$a82e2bb9@reader.athenane ws.com... >> >>>> >> >>>>>Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason >> >>>>>they >> >>>>>originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right", >> >>>>>and >> >>> >> >>>go >> >>> >> >>>>>into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny >> >>> >> >>>white >> >>> >> >>>>>or >> >>>>>red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they >> >>>>>do. >> >>>>> >> >>>>>Earle >> >>>>> >> >>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >> >>>>>news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca... >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently >> >>>>>>figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod >> >>>>>>flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I >> >>>>>>had >> >>>>>>and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I >> >>>>>>have >> >>>>>>owned it. LOL! >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the >> >>>>>>stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>Mike >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>Earle Horton wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can >> >>>>>>>mask >> >>>>> >> >>>>>issues, >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing >> >>>>>>>causing >> >>> >> >>>a >> >>> >> >>>>>>>problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the >> >>> >> >>>shiny >> >>> >> >>>>>rod >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>goes into the cylinder. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>Earle >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >> >>>>>>>news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca... >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off >> >>> >> >>>the >> >>> >> >>>>>>>>road or snap something so you lose control. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire >> >>>>>>>>in >> >>>>>>>>the >> >>>>>>>>front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to >> >>>>>>>>the >> >>>>>>>>passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the >> >>>>>>>>wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle. >> >>>>>>>>It >> >>>>>>>>is >> >>>>> >> >>>>>a >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look >> >>> >> >>>close >> >>> >> >>>>>>>>when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground >> >>>>>>>>in >> >>>>> >> >>>>>front >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels >> >>>>> >> >>>>>should >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side >> >>> >> >>>compared >> >>> >> >>>>>to >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it >> >>>>>>>>only >> >>>>>>>>masks issues, it won't be the cause. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>Mike >> >>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> >>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> >>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> >>>>>>>>Jan/06 >> >>> >> >>>http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >> >>> >> >>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>Rachel wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me >> >>>>>>>>>thus >> >>>>> >> >>>>>far. >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am >> >>>>> >> >>>>>aproaching >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a >> >>> >> >>>washing >> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front >> >>>>> >> >>>>>center >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest >> >>> >> >>>ride >> >>> >> >>>>>but >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>this not just the typical ride of the car. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home >> >>> >> >>>from >> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this >> >>> >> >>>trip >> >>> >> >>>>>the >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any >> >>>>> >> >>>>>suggestions >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>would be greatly appreciated!! >> >>>>>>>>> thanks >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > |
Re: Shakin' 98' Wrangler
And here I have been spray painting everything underneath the Jeep black...
"Rachel" <sassal87@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1160069298.817906.141180@c28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... > My dad has previously rotated the tires and replaced the stablizer-it > was a shiny yellow one I know it's not at the top of the color chart > but at least its not a violet one. So he's going to check out some of > your other suggestions when I go home this weekend. Thanks for all of > your help guys > > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote: >> You forgot fucsia. ;-) >> >> "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:dFDUg.963$gL.263@southeast.rr.com... >> > billy billy billy, how shockingly unPC can you be <G>. >> > >> > Jeff DeWitt (only thing PC about me runs Windows) >> > >> > billy ray wrote: >> >> I wonder if they sell to decals with that pattern in San Francisco, >> >> South >> >> Miami, and New York...... >> >> >> >> I would be concerned that would cause the Jeep to sway back and forth >> >> or >> >> sashay.... >> >> >> >> >> >> "Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message >> >> news:5ozUg.2317$6S2.782@trndny02... >> >> >> >>>Best to Worst.... >> >>> >> >>>Red >> >>>Orange >> >>>Yellow >> >>>Green >> >>>Blue >> >>>Lavinder >> >>>Indego >> >>>Violet >> >>> >> >>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message >> >>>news:c8d5c$4522c157$422afc51$24986@FUSE.NET.. . >> >>> >> >>>>Does that mean if I just spray paint mine it will work better? >> >>>> >> >>>>What are the colors in rank of 'superiority'? >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message >> >>>>news:4522b275$0$11314$a82e2bb9@reader.athenane ws.com... >> >>>> >> >>>>>Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason >> >>>>>they >> >>>>>originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right", >> >>>>>and >> >>> >> >>>go >> >>> >> >>>>>into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny >> >>> >> >>>white >> >>> >> >>>>>or >> >>>>>red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they >> >>>>>do. >> >>>>> >> >>>>>Earle >> >>>>> >> >>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >> >>>>>news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca... >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently >> >>>>>>figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod >> >>>>>>flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I >> >>>>>>had >> >>>>>>and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I >> >>>>>>have >> >>>>>>owned it. LOL! >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the >> >>>>>>stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>Mike >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>Earle Horton wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can >> >>>>>>>mask >> >>>>> >> >>>>>issues, >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing >> >>>>>>>causing >> >>> >> >>>a >> >>> >> >>>>>>>problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the >> >>> >> >>>shiny >> >>> >> >>>>>rod >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>goes into the cylinder. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>Earle >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >> >>>>>>>news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca... >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off >> >>> >> >>>the >> >>> >> >>>>>>>>road or snap something so you lose control. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire >> >>>>>>>>in >> >>>>>>>>the >> >>>>>>>>front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to >> >>>>>>>>the >> >>>>>>>>passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the >> >>>>>>>>wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle. >> >>>>>>>>It >> >>>>>>>>is >> >>>>> >> >>>>>a >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look >> >>> >> >>>close >> >>> >> >>>>>>>>when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground >> >>>>>>>>in >> >>>>> >> >>>>>front >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels >> >>>>> >> >>>>>should >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side >> >>> >> >>>compared >> >>> >> >>>>>to >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it >> >>>>>>>>only >> >>>>>>>>masks issues, it won't be the cause. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>Mike >> >>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> >>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> >>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> >>>>>>>>Jan/06 >> >>> >> >>>http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >> >>> >> >>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>Rachel wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me >> >>>>>>>>>thus >> >>>>> >> >>>>>far. >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am >> >>>>> >> >>>>>aproaching >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a >> >>> >> >>>washing >> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front >> >>>>> >> >>>>>center >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest >> >>> >> >>>ride >> >>> >> >>>>>but >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>this not just the typical ride of the car. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home >> >>> >> >>>from >> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this >> >>> >> >>>trip >> >>> >> >>>>>the >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any >> >>>>> >> >>>>>suggestions >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>would be greatly appreciated!! >> >>>>>>>>> thanks >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > |
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