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Mike Romain 10-03-2006 03:00 PM

Re: Shakin' 98' Wrangler
 
I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently
figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod
flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I had
and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I have
owned it. LOL!

Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the
stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think.

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can mask issues,
> for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing causing a
> problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the shiny rod
> goes into the cylinder.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca...
> > That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off the
> > road or snap something so you lose control.
> >
> > Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire in the
> > front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first.
> >
> > That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to the
> > passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the
> > wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle. It is a
> > bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look close
> > when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it.
> >
> > If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground in front
> > and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels should
> > turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side compared to
> > the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem.
> >
> > You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it only
> > masks issues, it won't be the cause.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Rachel wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me thus far.
> > > The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am aproaching
> > > 60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a washing
> > > machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front center
> > >
> > > of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest ride but
> > >
> > > this not just the typical ride of the car.
> > >
> > > Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home from
> > > college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this trip the
> > > shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any suggestions
> > > would be greatly appreciated!!
> > > thanks


Mike Romain 10-03-2006 03:00 PM

Re: Shakin' 98' Wrangler
 
I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently
figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod
flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I had
and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I have
owned it. LOL!

Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the
stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think.

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can mask issues,
> for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing causing a
> problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the shiny rod
> goes into the cylinder.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca...
> > That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off the
> > road or snap something so you lose control.
> >
> > Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire in the
> > front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first.
> >
> > That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to the
> > passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the
> > wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle. It is a
> > bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look close
> > when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it.
> >
> > If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground in front
> > and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels should
> > turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side compared to
> > the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem.
> >
> > You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it only
> > masks issues, it won't be the cause.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Rachel wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me thus far.
> > > The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am aproaching
> > > 60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a washing
> > > machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front center
> > >
> > > of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest ride but
> > >
> > > this not just the typical ride of the car.
> > >
> > > Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home from
> > > college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this trip the
> > > shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any suggestions
> > > would be greatly appreciated!!
> > > thanks


Mike Romain 10-03-2006 03:00 PM

Re: Shakin' 98' Wrangler
 
I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently
figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod
flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I had
and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I have
owned it. LOL!

Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the
stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think.

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can mask issues,
> for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing causing a
> problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the shiny rod
> goes into the cylinder.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca...
> > That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off the
> > road or snap something so you lose control.
> >
> > Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire in the
> > front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first.
> >
> > That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to the
> > passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the
> > wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle. It is a
> > bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look close
> > when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it.
> >
> > If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground in front
> > and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels should
> > turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side compared to
> > the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem.
> >
> > You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it only
> > masks issues, it won't be the cause.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Rachel wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me thus far.
> > > The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am aproaching
> > > 60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a washing
> > > machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front center
> > >
> > > of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest ride but
> > >
> > > this not just the typical ride of the car.
> > >
> > > Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home from
> > > college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this trip the
> > > shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any suggestions
> > > would be greatly appreciated!!
> > > thanks


Earle Horton 10-03-2006 03:01 PM

Re: Shakin' 98' Wrangler
 
Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason they
originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right", and go
into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny white or
red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they do.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca...
> I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently
> figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod
> flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I had
> and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I have
> owned it. LOL!
>
> Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the
> stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think.
>
> Mike
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can mask

issues,
> > for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing causing a
> > problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the shiny

rod
> > goes into the cylinder.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca...
> > > That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off the
> > > road or snap something so you lose control.
> > >
> > > Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire in the
> > > front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first.
> > >
> > > That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to the
> > > passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the
> > > wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle. It is

a
> > > bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look close
> > > when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it.
> > >
> > > If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground in

front
> > > and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels

should
> > > turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side compared

to
> > > the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem.
> > >
> > > You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it only
> > > masks issues, it won't be the cause.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > > Rachel wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me thus

far.
> > > > The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am

aproaching
> > > > 60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a washing
> > > > machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front

center
> > > >
> > > > of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest ride

but
> > > >
> > > > this not just the typical ride of the car.
> > > >
> > > > Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home from
> > > > college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this trip

the
> > > > shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any

suggestions
> > > > would be greatly appreciated!!
> > > > thanks




Earle Horton 10-03-2006 03:01 PM

Re: Shakin' 98' Wrangler
 
Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason they
originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right", and go
into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny white or
red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they do.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca...
> I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently
> figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod
> flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I had
> and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I have
> owned it. LOL!
>
> Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the
> stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think.
>
> Mike
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can mask

issues,
> > for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing causing a
> > problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the shiny

rod
> > goes into the cylinder.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca...
> > > That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off the
> > > road or snap something so you lose control.
> > >
> > > Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire in the
> > > front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first.
> > >
> > > That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to the
> > > passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the
> > > wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle. It is

a
> > > bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look close
> > > when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it.
> > >
> > > If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground in

front
> > > and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels

should
> > > turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side compared

to
> > > the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem.
> > >
> > > You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it only
> > > masks issues, it won't be the cause.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > > Rachel wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me thus

far.
> > > > The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am

aproaching
> > > > 60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a washing
> > > > machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front

center
> > > >
> > > > of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest ride

but
> > > >
> > > > this not just the typical ride of the car.
> > > >
> > > > Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home from
> > > > college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this trip

the
> > > > shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any

suggestions
> > > > would be greatly appreciated!!
> > > > thanks




Earle Horton 10-03-2006 03:01 PM

Re: Shakin' 98' Wrangler
 
Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason they
originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right", and go
into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny white or
red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they do.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca...
> I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently
> figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod
> flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I had
> and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I have
> owned it. LOL!
>
> Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the
> stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think.
>
> Mike
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can mask

issues,
> > for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing causing a
> > problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the shiny

rod
> > goes into the cylinder.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca...
> > > That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off the
> > > road or snap something so you lose control.
> > >
> > > Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire in the
> > > front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first.
> > >
> > > That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to the
> > > passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the
> > > wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle. It is

a
> > > bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look close
> > > when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it.
> > >
> > > If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground in

front
> > > and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels

should
> > > turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side compared

to
> > > the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem.
> > >
> > > You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it only
> > > masks issues, it won't be the cause.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > > Rachel wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me thus

far.
> > > > The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am

aproaching
> > > > 60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a washing
> > > > machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front

center
> > > >
> > > > of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest ride

but
> > > >
> > > > this not just the typical ride of the car.
> > > >
> > > > Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home from
> > > > college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this trip

the
> > > > shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any

suggestions
> > > > would be greatly appreciated!!
> > > > thanks




billy ray 10-03-2006 03:55 PM

Re: Shakin' 98' Wrangler
 
Does that mean if I just spray paint mine it will work better?

What are the colors in rank of 'superiority'?


"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
news:4522b275$0$11314$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason they
> originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right", and go
> into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny white
> or
> red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they do.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca...
>> I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently
>> figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod
>> flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I had
>> and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I have
>> owned it. LOL!
>>
>> Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the
>> stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>> >
>> > They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can mask

> issues,
>> > for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing causing a
>> > problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the shiny

> rod
>> > goes into the cylinder.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca...
>> > > That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off the
>> > > road or snap something so you lose control.
>> > >
>> > > Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire in
>> > > the
>> > > front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first.
>> > >
>> > > That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to the
>> > > passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the
>> > > wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle. It
>> > > is

> a
>> > > bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look close
>> > > when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it.
>> > >
>> > > If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground in

> front
>> > > and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels

> should
>> > > turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side compared

> to
>> > > the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem.
>> > >
>> > > You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it
>> > > only
>> > > masks issues, it won't be the cause.
>> > >
>> > > Mike
>> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> > >
>> > > Rachel wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me thus

> far.
>> > > > The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am

> aproaching
>> > > > 60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a washing
>> > > > machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front

> center
>> > > >
>> > > > of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest ride

> but
>> > > >
>> > > > this not just the typical ride of the car.
>> > > >
>> > > > Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home from
>> > > > college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this trip

> the
>> > > > shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any

> suggestions
>> > > > would be greatly appreciated!!
>> > > > thanks

>
>




billy ray 10-03-2006 03:55 PM

Re: Shakin' 98' Wrangler
 
Does that mean if I just spray paint mine it will work better?

What are the colors in rank of 'superiority'?


"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
news:4522b275$0$11314$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason they
> originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right", and go
> into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny white
> or
> red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they do.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca...
>> I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently
>> figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod
>> flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I had
>> and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I have
>> owned it. LOL!
>>
>> Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the
>> stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>> >
>> > They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can mask

> issues,
>> > for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing causing a
>> > problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the shiny

> rod
>> > goes into the cylinder.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca...
>> > > That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off the
>> > > road or snap something so you lose control.
>> > >
>> > > Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire in
>> > > the
>> > > front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first.
>> > >
>> > > That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to the
>> > > passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the
>> > > wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle. It
>> > > is

> a
>> > > bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look close
>> > > when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it.
>> > >
>> > > If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground in

> front
>> > > and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels

> should
>> > > turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side compared

> to
>> > > the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem.
>> > >
>> > > You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it
>> > > only
>> > > masks issues, it won't be the cause.
>> > >
>> > > Mike
>> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> > >
>> > > Rachel wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me thus

> far.
>> > > > The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am

> aproaching
>> > > > 60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a washing
>> > > > machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front

> center
>> > > >
>> > > > of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest ride

> but
>> > > >
>> > > > this not just the typical ride of the car.
>> > > >
>> > > > Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home from
>> > > > college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this trip

> the
>> > > > shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any

> suggestions
>> > > > would be greatly appreciated!!
>> > > > thanks

>
>




billy ray 10-03-2006 03:55 PM

Re: Shakin' 98' Wrangler
 
Does that mean if I just spray paint mine it will work better?

What are the colors in rank of 'superiority'?


"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
news:4522b275$0$11314$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason they
> originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right", and go
> into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny white
> or
> red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they do.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca...
>> I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently
>> figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod
>> flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I had
>> and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I have
>> owned it. LOL!
>>
>> Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the
>> stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>> >
>> > They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can mask

> issues,
>> > for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing causing a
>> > problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the shiny

> rod
>> > goes into the cylinder.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca...
>> > > That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off the
>> > > road or snap something so you lose control.
>> > >
>> > > Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire in
>> > > the
>> > > front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first.
>> > >
>> > > That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to the
>> > > passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the
>> > > wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle. It
>> > > is

> a
>> > > bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look close
>> > > when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it.
>> > >
>> > > If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground in

> front
>> > > and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels

> should
>> > > turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side compared

> to
>> > > the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem.
>> > >
>> > > You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it
>> > > only
>> > > masks issues, it won't be the cause.
>> > >
>> > > Mike
>> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> > >
>> > > Rachel wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me thus

> far.
>> > > > The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am

> aproaching
>> > > > 60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a washing
>> > > > machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front

> center
>> > > >
>> > > > of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest ride

> but
>> > > >
>> > > > this not just the typical ride of the car.
>> > > >
>> > > > Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home from
>> > > > college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this trip

> the
>> > > > shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any

> suggestions
>> > > > would be greatly appreciated!!
>> > > > thanks

>
>




Steve Foley 10-03-2006 04:05 PM

Re: Shakin' 98' Wrangler
 
Best to Worst....

Red
Orange
Yellow
Green
Blue
Lavinder
Indego
Violet

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:c8d5c$4522c157$422afc51$24986@FUSE.NET...
> Does that mean if I just spray paint mine it will work better?
>
> What are the colors in rank of 'superiority'?
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:4522b275$0$11314$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason they
> > originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right", and

go
> > into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny

white
> > or
> > red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they do.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca...
> >> I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently
> >> figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod
> >> flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I had
> >> and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I have
> >> owned it. LOL!
> >>
> >> Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the
> >> stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Earle Horton wrote:
> >> >
> >> > They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can mask

> > issues,
> >> > for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing causing

a
> >> > problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the

shiny
> > rod
> >> > goes into the cylinder.
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> > news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca...
> >> > > That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off

the
> >> > > road or snap something so you lose control.
> >> > >
> >> > > Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire in
> >> > > the
> >> > > front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first.
> >> > >
> >> > > That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to the
> >> > > passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the
> >> > > wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle. It
> >> > > is

> > a
> >> > > bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look

close
> >> > > when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it.
> >> > >
> >> > > If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground in

> > front
> >> > > and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels

> > should
> >> > > turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side

compared
> > to
> >> > > the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem.
> >> > >
> >> > > You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it
> >> > > only
> >> > > masks issues, it won't be the cause.
> >> > >
> >> > > Mike
> >> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> > > Jan/06

http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> > >
> >> > > Rachel wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me thus

> > far.
> >> > > > The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am

> > aproaching
> >> > > > 60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a

washing
> >> > > > machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front

> > center
> >> > > >
> >> > > > of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest

ride
> > but
> >> > > >
> >> > > > this not just the typical ride of the car.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home

from
> >> > > > college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this

trip
> > the
> >> > > > shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any

> > suggestions
> >> > > > would be greatly appreciated!!
> >> > > > thanks

> >
> >

>
>





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