Shacklelift YJ ?
07-06-2004, 06:18 PM
#41
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Re: Shacklelift YJ ?
Thanks, but I need a picture taken on the flat so I may see the
spring arc.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Nick N wrote:
>
> http://www.members.***.net/nnote/cc.jpg
>
> Ok, history is.....
> 93yj 2.5 manual. Bought it used in 98 with 31's and a shackle lift - open
> diffs
> Flexed like crazy and did good offroad but I earned the nickname 'bonzi
> nick'... dirived from the techinique I used to overcome the open diffs.
> Steering was a little funky and loose. Finally installed (the first for a
> yj, I was test vehicle) ox locker in front diff and holy smokes the
> difference it made... Eventually, springs sagged to much, started braking
> shock mounts...
> Bought a used lift from a club member... 4" springs, tc drop, disco's, 4?
> degree wedgess for rear axle, tossed the rear track bar, and adjustable
> rancho shocks. Left my shackle lift on it also. No vibration issues and
> relocated my brake lines.
> The lift is sweet! It rides great on and offroad. Doesn't flex as much as
> I would like. In the future I would like to take out one of the new springs
> in each pack and throw in a spring from my old sagging springs. Does damn
> good offroad, especially with the new lift and the ox locker.
> (1 month ago) Remember my posts about the no-slip in the rear???
> Got it in so now I'm locked front and rear. I just aim my jeep and go....
> I've never broken anything but rear shock mounts, despite beating the crap
> out of it. I think d.c. was having a good production day when mine came off
> the line.
>
> Now, I know all the issues concerning my setup (it still works damn
> well..damn well...) Here's my plans if the $$$ comes
> 1. new steering box.... badly needed at this point
> 2. cv rear drive shaft and raise the tc back up
> 3. terelow
> 4. go spring over
> 5. a new engine is gonna be needed soon
>
> My point for the person asking about the shackles is that I've had them on
> since 98 and the issues I've had were some wandering, (which I think the
> majority is the seriously warn steering box) and also before I got lifted I
> would jam the shackles into rocks, treestumps etc... not a concern if it's a
> street jeep.
> The majority of drive time, the shackles have been of no concern.
>
> Nick
spring arc.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Nick N wrote:
>
> http://www.members.***.net/nnote/cc.jpg
>
> Ok, history is.....
> 93yj 2.5 manual. Bought it used in 98 with 31's and a shackle lift - open
> diffs
> Flexed like crazy and did good offroad but I earned the nickname 'bonzi
> nick'... dirived from the techinique I used to overcome the open diffs.
> Steering was a little funky and loose. Finally installed (the first for a
> yj, I was test vehicle) ox locker in front diff and holy smokes the
> difference it made... Eventually, springs sagged to much, started braking
> shock mounts...
> Bought a used lift from a club member... 4" springs, tc drop, disco's, 4?
> degree wedgess for rear axle, tossed the rear track bar, and adjustable
> rancho shocks. Left my shackle lift on it also. No vibration issues and
> relocated my brake lines.
> The lift is sweet! It rides great on and offroad. Doesn't flex as much as
> I would like. In the future I would like to take out one of the new springs
> in each pack and throw in a spring from my old sagging springs. Does damn
> good offroad, especially with the new lift and the ox locker.
> (1 month ago) Remember my posts about the no-slip in the rear???
> Got it in so now I'm locked front and rear. I just aim my jeep and go....
> I've never broken anything but rear shock mounts, despite beating the crap
> out of it. I think d.c. was having a good production day when mine came off
> the line.
>
> Now, I know all the issues concerning my setup (it still works damn
> well..damn well...) Here's my plans if the $$$ comes
> 1. new steering box.... badly needed at this point
> 2. cv rear drive shaft and raise the tc back up
> 3. terelow
> 4. go spring over
> 5. a new engine is gonna be needed soon
>
> My point for the person asking about the shackles is that I've had them on
> since 98 and the issues I've had were some wandering, (which I think the
> majority is the seriously warn steering box) and also before I got lifted I
> would jam the shackles into rocks, treestumps etc... not a concern if it's a
> street jeep.
> The majority of drive time, the shackles have been of no concern.
>
> Nick
07-06-2004, 06:21 PM
#42
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Re: Shacklelift YJ ?
In article <OlFGc.5931$876.5424@fed1read07>,
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote:
> The majority of drive time, the shackles have been of no concern.
>
> Nick
Our 1993 YJ 2.5L had 31's and a shackle lift. It was just plain
dangerous to drive, especially at highway speeds. I couldn't, in good
conscience, let my wife and son use it. There was a three degree
difference in caster between stock and the aftermarket shackles, which
was significant enough that when replaced the driveability was nenewed
completely. Off road there was no noticeable difference. The stock leafs
are a joke, and I've never hit a shackle on anything other than bushes.
I sold the HD shackles on ebay and bought her some boomerang shackles,
for the rear, and the same brand tow shackles up front.
Now my CJ is a COMPLETELY different story. Should have it started this
weekend. Wish me luck.
http://sprite.viptx.net/~moomesa/index.html
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote:
> The majority of drive time, the shackles have been of no concern.
>
> Nick
Our 1993 YJ 2.5L had 31's and a shackle lift. It was just plain
dangerous to drive, especially at highway speeds. I couldn't, in good
conscience, let my wife and son use it. There was a three degree
difference in caster between stock and the aftermarket shackles, which
was significant enough that when replaced the driveability was nenewed
completely. Off road there was no noticeable difference. The stock leafs
are a joke, and I've never hit a shackle on anything other than bushes.
I sold the HD shackles on ebay and bought her some boomerang shackles,
for the rear, and the same brand tow shackles up front.
Now my CJ is a COMPLETELY different story. Should have it started this
weekend. Wish me luck.
http://sprite.viptx.net/~moomesa/index.html
07-06-2004, 06:21 PM
#43
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Re: Shacklelift YJ ?
In article <OlFGc.5931$876.5424@fed1read07>,
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote:
> The majority of drive time, the shackles have been of no concern.
>
> Nick
Our 1993 YJ 2.5L had 31's and a shackle lift. It was just plain
dangerous to drive, especially at highway speeds. I couldn't, in good
conscience, let my wife and son use it. There was a three degree
difference in caster between stock and the aftermarket shackles, which
was significant enough that when replaced the driveability was nenewed
completely. Off road there was no noticeable difference. The stock leafs
are a joke, and I've never hit a shackle on anything other than bushes.
I sold the HD shackles on ebay and bought her some boomerang shackles,
for the rear, and the same brand tow shackles up front.
Now my CJ is a COMPLETELY different story. Should have it started this
weekend. Wish me luck.
http://sprite.viptx.net/~moomesa/index.html
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote:
> The majority of drive time, the shackles have been of no concern.
>
> Nick
Our 1993 YJ 2.5L had 31's and a shackle lift. It was just plain
dangerous to drive, especially at highway speeds. I couldn't, in good
conscience, let my wife and son use it. There was a three degree
difference in caster between stock and the aftermarket shackles, which
was significant enough that when replaced the driveability was nenewed
completely. Off road there was no noticeable difference. The stock leafs
are a joke, and I've never hit a shackle on anything other than bushes.
I sold the HD shackles on ebay and bought her some boomerang shackles,
for the rear, and the same brand tow shackles up front.
Now my CJ is a COMPLETELY different story. Should have it started this
weekend. Wish me luck.
http://sprite.viptx.net/~moomesa/index.html
07-06-2004, 06:21 PM
#44
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Re: Shacklelift YJ ?
In article <OlFGc.5931$876.5424@fed1read07>,
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote:
> The majority of drive time, the shackles have been of no concern.
>
> Nick
Our 1993 YJ 2.5L had 31's and a shackle lift. It was just plain
dangerous to drive, especially at highway speeds. I couldn't, in good
conscience, let my wife and son use it. There was a three degree
difference in caster between stock and the aftermarket shackles, which
was significant enough that when replaced the driveability was nenewed
completely. Off road there was no noticeable difference. The stock leafs
are a joke, and I've never hit a shackle on anything other than bushes.
I sold the HD shackles on ebay and bought her some boomerang shackles,
for the rear, and the same brand tow shackles up front.
Now my CJ is a COMPLETELY different story. Should have it started this
weekend. Wish me luck.
http://sprite.viptx.net/~moomesa/index.html
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote:
> The majority of drive time, the shackles have been of no concern.
>
> Nick
Our 1993 YJ 2.5L had 31's and a shackle lift. It was just plain
dangerous to drive, especially at highway speeds. I couldn't, in good
conscience, let my wife and son use it. There was a three degree
difference in caster between stock and the aftermarket shackles, which
was significant enough that when replaced the driveability was nenewed
completely. Off road there was no noticeable difference. The stock leafs
are a joke, and I've never hit a shackle on anything other than bushes.
I sold the HD shackles on ebay and bought her some boomerang shackles,
for the rear, and the same brand tow shackles up front.
Now my CJ is a COMPLETELY different story. Should have it started this
weekend. Wish me luck.
http://sprite.viptx.net/~moomesa/index.html
07-06-2004, 06:21 PM
#45
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Re: Shacklelift YJ ?
In article <OlFGc.5931$876.5424@fed1read07>,
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote:
> The majority of drive time, the shackles have been of no concern.
>
> Nick
Our 1993 YJ 2.5L had 31's and a shackle lift. It was just plain
dangerous to drive, especially at highway speeds. I couldn't, in good
conscience, let my wife and son use it. There was a three degree
difference in caster between stock and the aftermarket shackles, which
was significant enough that when replaced the driveability was nenewed
completely. Off road there was no noticeable difference. The stock leafs
are a joke, and I've never hit a shackle on anything other than bushes.
I sold the HD shackles on ebay and bought her some boomerang shackles,
for the rear, and the same brand tow shackles up front.
Now my CJ is a COMPLETELY different story. Should have it started this
weekend. Wish me luck.
http://sprite.viptx.net/~moomesa/index.html
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote:
> The majority of drive time, the shackles have been of no concern.
>
> Nick
Our 1993 YJ 2.5L had 31's and a shackle lift. It was just plain
dangerous to drive, especially at highway speeds. I couldn't, in good
conscience, let my wife and son use it. There was a three degree
difference in caster between stock and the aftermarket shackles, which
was significant enough that when replaced the driveability was nenewed
completely. Off road there was no noticeable difference. The stock leafs
are a joke, and I've never hit a shackle on anything other than bushes.
I sold the HD shackles on ebay and bought her some boomerang shackles,
for the rear, and the same brand tow shackles up front.
Now my CJ is a COMPLETELY different story. Should have it started this
weekend. Wish me luck.
http://sprite.viptx.net/~moomesa/index.html
07-06-2004, 07:00 PM
#46
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Re: Shacklelift YJ ?
IMO, shackle lifts should be used on jeeps in conjuction with lift springs.
When you add lifted springs to a jeep with the wimpy stock shackles, the
springs could bottom out on the frame at flex. After saying that I installed
2" shackles on the front of my cj7 to level it out and it didn't make much
difference on the road. When I removed the sway bar, now that made a
difference! It was almost dangerous.
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When you add lifted springs to a jeep with the wimpy stock shackles, the
springs could bottom out on the frame at flex. After saying that I installed
2" shackles on the front of my cj7 to level it out and it didn't make much
difference on the road. When I removed the sway bar, now that made a
difference! It was almost dangerous.
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07-06-2004, 07:00 PM
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IMO, shackle lifts should be used on jeeps in conjuction with lift springs.
When you add lifted springs to a jeep with the wimpy stock shackles, the
springs could bottom out on the frame at flex. After saying that I installed
2" shackles on the front of my cj7 to level it out and it didn't make much
difference on the road. When I removed the sway bar, now that made a
difference! It was almost dangerous.
--
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85CJ7 (in Progress)
http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
99XJ Sport
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When you add lifted springs to a jeep with the wimpy stock shackles, the
springs could bottom out on the frame at flex. After saying that I installed
2" shackles on the front of my cj7 to level it out and it didn't make much
difference on the road. When I removed the sway bar, now that made a
difference! It was almost dangerous.
--
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99XJ Sport
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07-06-2004, 07:00 PM
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Re: Shacklelift YJ ?
IMO, shackle lifts should be used on jeeps in conjuction with lift springs.
When you add lifted springs to a jeep with the wimpy stock shackles, the
springs could bottom out on the frame at flex. After saying that I installed
2" shackles on the front of my cj7 to level it out and it didn't make much
difference on the road. When I removed the sway bar, now that made a
difference! It was almost dangerous.
--
_____________________
HomeBrewer
85CJ7 (in Progress)
http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
99XJ Sport
Remove the xxx to reply!
When you add lifted springs to a jeep with the wimpy stock shackles, the
springs could bottom out on the frame at flex. After saying that I installed
2" shackles on the front of my cj7 to level it out and it didn't make much
difference on the road. When I removed the sway bar, now that made a
difference! It was almost dangerous.
--
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HomeBrewer
85CJ7 (in Progress)
http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
99XJ Sport
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07-06-2004, 07:00 PM
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Re: Shacklelift YJ ?
IMO, shackle lifts should be used on jeeps in conjuction with lift springs.
When you add lifted springs to a jeep with the wimpy stock shackles, the
springs could bottom out on the frame at flex. After saying that I installed
2" shackles on the front of my cj7 to level it out and it didn't make much
difference on the road. When I removed the sway bar, now that made a
difference! It was almost dangerous.
--
_____________________
HomeBrewer
85CJ7 (in Progress)
http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
99XJ Sport
Remove the xxx to reply!
When you add lifted springs to a jeep with the wimpy stock shackles, the
springs could bottom out on the frame at flex. After saying that I installed
2" shackles on the front of my cj7 to level it out and it didn't make much
difference on the road. When I removed the sway bar, now that made a
difference! It was almost dangerous.
--
_____________________
HomeBrewer
85CJ7 (in Progress)
http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
99XJ Sport
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07-06-2004, 08:35 PM
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Re: Shacklelift YJ ?
Hm, I'll have to take one. I'll do that and get it to you soon.
Nick
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40EB2524.CF62FFBB@***.net...
> Thanks, but I need a picture taken on the flat so I may see the
> spring arc.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Nick N wrote:
> >
> > http://www.members.***.net/nnote/cc.jpg
> >
> > Ok, history is.....
> > 93yj 2.5 manual. Bought it used in 98 with 31's and a shackle lift -
open
> > diffs
> > Flexed like crazy and did good offroad but I earned the nickname 'bonzi
> > nick'... dirived from the techinique I used to overcome the open diffs.
> > Steering was a little funky and loose. Finally installed (the first for
a
> > yj, I was test vehicle) ox locker in front diff and holy smokes the
> > difference it made... Eventually, springs sagged to much, started
braking
> > shock mounts...
> > Bought a used lift from a club member... 4" springs, tc drop, disco's,
4?
> > degree wedgess for rear axle, tossed the rear track bar, and adjustable
> > rancho shocks. Left my shackle lift on it also. No vibration issues
and
> > relocated my brake lines.
> > The lift is sweet! It rides great on and offroad. Doesn't flex as much
as
> > I would like. In the future I would like to take out one of the new
springs
> > in each pack and throw in a spring from my old sagging springs. Does
damn
> > good offroad, especially with the new lift and the ox locker.
> > (1 month ago) Remember my posts about the no-slip in the rear???
> > Got it in so now I'm locked front and rear. I just aim my jeep and
go....
> > I've never broken anything but rear shock mounts, despite beating the
crap
> > out of it. I think d.c. was having a good production day when mine came
off
> > the line.
> >
> > Now, I know all the issues concerning my setup (it still works damn
> > well..damn well...) Here's my plans if the $$$ comes
> > 1. new steering box.... badly needed at this point
> > 2. cv rear drive shaft and raise the tc back up
> > 3. terelow
> > 4. go spring over
> > 5. a new engine is gonna be needed soon
> >
> > My point for the person asking about the shackles is that I've had them
on
> > since 98 and the issues I've had were some wandering, (which I think the
> > majority is the seriously warn steering box) and also before I got
lifted I
> > would jam the shackles into rocks, treestumps etc... not a concern if
it's a
> > street jeep.
> > The majority of drive time, the shackles have been of no concern.
> >
> > Nick
Nick
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40EB2524.CF62FFBB@***.net...
> Thanks, but I need a picture taken on the flat so I may see the
> spring arc.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Nick N wrote:
> >
> > http://www.members.***.net/nnote/cc.jpg
> >
> > Ok, history is.....
> > 93yj 2.5 manual. Bought it used in 98 with 31's and a shackle lift -
open
> > diffs
> > Flexed like crazy and did good offroad but I earned the nickname 'bonzi
> > nick'... dirived from the techinique I used to overcome the open diffs.
> > Steering was a little funky and loose. Finally installed (the first for
a
> > yj, I was test vehicle) ox locker in front diff and holy smokes the
> > difference it made... Eventually, springs sagged to much, started
braking
> > shock mounts...
> > Bought a used lift from a club member... 4" springs, tc drop, disco's,
4?
> > degree wedgess for rear axle, tossed the rear track bar, and adjustable
> > rancho shocks. Left my shackle lift on it also. No vibration issues
and
> > relocated my brake lines.
> > The lift is sweet! It rides great on and offroad. Doesn't flex as much
as
> > I would like. In the future I would like to take out one of the new
springs
> > in each pack and throw in a spring from my old sagging springs. Does
damn
> > good offroad, especially with the new lift and the ox locker.
> > (1 month ago) Remember my posts about the no-slip in the rear???
> > Got it in so now I'm locked front and rear. I just aim my jeep and
go....
> > I've never broken anything but rear shock mounts, despite beating the
crap
> > out of it. I think d.c. was having a good production day when mine came
off
> > the line.
> >
> > Now, I know all the issues concerning my setup (it still works damn
> > well..damn well...) Here's my plans if the $$$ comes
> > 1. new steering box.... badly needed at this point
> > 2. cv rear drive shaft and raise the tc back up
> > 3. terelow
> > 4. go spring over
> > 5. a new engine is gonna be needed soon
> >
> > My point for the person asking about the shackles is that I've had them
on
> > since 98 and the issues I've had were some wandering, (which I think the
> > majority is the seriously warn steering box) and also before I got
lifted I
> > would jam the shackles into rocks, treestumps etc... not a concern if
it's a
> > street jeep.
> > The majority of drive time, the shackles have been of no concern.
> >
> > Nick