Shacklelift YJ ?
07-06-2004, 04:50 PM
#21
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Re: Shacklelift YJ ?
Do it right, take to your local spring shop and have them re-arc to
the height you like.
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Tommy wrote:
>
> Im thinking on shacklelift 1 1/4", how will this affect the jeeps handlin on
> the road, its a everyday driver. As u know its a cheap lift and rather easy
> to do yourself, right?
the height you like.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Tommy wrote:
>
> Im thinking on shacklelift 1 1/4", how will this affect the jeeps handlin on
> the road, its a everyday driver. As u know its a cheap lift and rather easy
> to do yourself, right?
07-06-2004, 05:04 PM
#22
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Re: Shacklelift YJ ?
In article <ccf2nk$ldv$1@green.tninet.se>,
"Tommy" <wrangler@_nospam_brevet.nu> wrote:
> does a 1 3/4" lift really have any notisable affect on the Jeeps handling on
> the road ?
Yes. It will change the caster angle making the Jeep seem twitchy. A
Jeep should NOT be twitchy at 70 miles per hour.
It will also change the driveline angle between the transfer case output
shaft and the input shafts, causing vibration and premature wear to the
U joints.
> I will also get a set of 31x10.50x15 MT-tires on 15x10 rims.
That's the problem with wanting big tires under a Jeep - geometry
changes. You need to put a proper lift under it.
I removed the shackles that came on my wife's YJ, as well as the 31
x10s, because of the steering and vibration. Google up "Jeepers" in this
group, and you can see what I went through. Not to mention the tires
stick WAY out past the fenders (legal problem in some places) causing
every bit of mud or dirty water to splash up on the sides and softtop.
If you EVER want a clean Jeep, wide tires and wheels will ruin it for
you, it will ALWAYS be dirty. Besides, those tires sticking out require
even MORE lift, because they will now rub your fenders because they
aren't tucked into the fenderwells anymore. Been there, done that, have
the T-Shirt to prove it.
Her Jeep handles TONS better in the stock configuration. If you really
want those big tires, get a proper lift and a tailshaft conversion for
the transfer case. Otherwise you WILL need shims for the leafsprings to
counteract the crappy little lift you'll get from shackles. By the time
you did all this you could have had a fair lift kit put on.
"Tommy" <wrangler@_nospam_brevet.nu> wrote:
> does a 1 3/4" lift really have any notisable affect on the Jeeps handling on
> the road ?
Yes. It will change the caster angle making the Jeep seem twitchy. A
Jeep should NOT be twitchy at 70 miles per hour.
It will also change the driveline angle between the transfer case output
shaft and the input shafts, causing vibration and premature wear to the
U joints.
> I will also get a set of 31x10.50x15 MT-tires on 15x10 rims.
That's the problem with wanting big tires under a Jeep - geometry
changes. You need to put a proper lift under it.
I removed the shackles that came on my wife's YJ, as well as the 31
x10s, because of the steering and vibration. Google up "Jeepers" in this
group, and you can see what I went through. Not to mention the tires
stick WAY out past the fenders (legal problem in some places) causing
every bit of mud or dirty water to splash up on the sides and softtop.
If you EVER want a clean Jeep, wide tires and wheels will ruin it for
you, it will ALWAYS be dirty. Besides, those tires sticking out require
even MORE lift, because they will now rub your fenders because they
aren't tucked into the fenderwells anymore. Been there, done that, have
the T-Shirt to prove it.
Her Jeep handles TONS better in the stock configuration. If you really
want those big tires, get a proper lift and a tailshaft conversion for
the transfer case. Otherwise you WILL need shims for the leafsprings to
counteract the crappy little lift you'll get from shackles. By the time
you did all this you could have had a fair lift kit put on.
07-06-2004, 05:04 PM
#23
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Re: Shacklelift YJ ?
In article <ccf2nk$ldv$1@green.tninet.se>,
"Tommy" <wrangler@_nospam_brevet.nu> wrote:
> does a 1 3/4" lift really have any notisable affect on the Jeeps handling on
> the road ?
Yes. It will change the caster angle making the Jeep seem twitchy. A
Jeep should NOT be twitchy at 70 miles per hour.
It will also change the driveline angle between the transfer case output
shaft and the input shafts, causing vibration and premature wear to the
U joints.
> I will also get a set of 31x10.50x15 MT-tires on 15x10 rims.
That's the problem with wanting big tires under a Jeep - geometry
changes. You need to put a proper lift under it.
I removed the shackles that came on my wife's YJ, as well as the 31
x10s, because of the steering and vibration. Google up "Jeepers" in this
group, and you can see what I went through. Not to mention the tires
stick WAY out past the fenders (legal problem in some places) causing
every bit of mud or dirty water to splash up on the sides and softtop.
If you EVER want a clean Jeep, wide tires and wheels will ruin it for
you, it will ALWAYS be dirty. Besides, those tires sticking out require
even MORE lift, because they will now rub your fenders because they
aren't tucked into the fenderwells anymore. Been there, done that, have
the T-Shirt to prove it.
Her Jeep handles TONS better in the stock configuration. If you really
want those big tires, get a proper lift and a tailshaft conversion for
the transfer case. Otherwise you WILL need shims for the leafsprings to
counteract the crappy little lift you'll get from shackles. By the time
you did all this you could have had a fair lift kit put on.
"Tommy" <wrangler@_nospam_brevet.nu> wrote:
> does a 1 3/4" lift really have any notisable affect on the Jeeps handling on
> the road ?
Yes. It will change the caster angle making the Jeep seem twitchy. A
Jeep should NOT be twitchy at 70 miles per hour.
It will also change the driveline angle between the transfer case output
shaft and the input shafts, causing vibration and premature wear to the
U joints.
> I will also get a set of 31x10.50x15 MT-tires on 15x10 rims.
That's the problem with wanting big tires under a Jeep - geometry
changes. You need to put a proper lift under it.
I removed the shackles that came on my wife's YJ, as well as the 31
x10s, because of the steering and vibration. Google up "Jeepers" in this
group, and you can see what I went through. Not to mention the tires
stick WAY out past the fenders (legal problem in some places) causing
every bit of mud or dirty water to splash up on the sides and softtop.
If you EVER want a clean Jeep, wide tires and wheels will ruin it for
you, it will ALWAYS be dirty. Besides, those tires sticking out require
even MORE lift, because they will now rub your fenders because they
aren't tucked into the fenderwells anymore. Been there, done that, have
the T-Shirt to prove it.
Her Jeep handles TONS better in the stock configuration. If you really
want those big tires, get a proper lift and a tailshaft conversion for
the transfer case. Otherwise you WILL need shims for the leafsprings to
counteract the crappy little lift you'll get from shackles. By the time
you did all this you could have had a fair lift kit put on.
07-06-2004, 05:04 PM
#24
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Re: Shacklelift YJ ?
In article <ccf2nk$ldv$1@green.tninet.se>,
"Tommy" <wrangler@_nospam_brevet.nu> wrote:
> does a 1 3/4" lift really have any notisable affect on the Jeeps handling on
> the road ?
Yes. It will change the caster angle making the Jeep seem twitchy. A
Jeep should NOT be twitchy at 70 miles per hour.
It will also change the driveline angle between the transfer case output
shaft and the input shafts, causing vibration and premature wear to the
U joints.
> I will also get a set of 31x10.50x15 MT-tires on 15x10 rims.
That's the problem with wanting big tires under a Jeep - geometry
changes. You need to put a proper lift under it.
I removed the shackles that came on my wife's YJ, as well as the 31
x10s, because of the steering and vibration. Google up "Jeepers" in this
group, and you can see what I went through. Not to mention the tires
stick WAY out past the fenders (legal problem in some places) causing
every bit of mud or dirty water to splash up on the sides and softtop.
If you EVER want a clean Jeep, wide tires and wheels will ruin it for
you, it will ALWAYS be dirty. Besides, those tires sticking out require
even MORE lift, because they will now rub your fenders because they
aren't tucked into the fenderwells anymore. Been there, done that, have
the T-Shirt to prove it.
Her Jeep handles TONS better in the stock configuration. If you really
want those big tires, get a proper lift and a tailshaft conversion for
the transfer case. Otherwise you WILL need shims for the leafsprings to
counteract the crappy little lift you'll get from shackles. By the time
you did all this you could have had a fair lift kit put on.
"Tommy" <wrangler@_nospam_brevet.nu> wrote:
> does a 1 3/4" lift really have any notisable affect on the Jeeps handling on
> the road ?
Yes. It will change the caster angle making the Jeep seem twitchy. A
Jeep should NOT be twitchy at 70 miles per hour.
It will also change the driveline angle between the transfer case output
shaft and the input shafts, causing vibration and premature wear to the
U joints.
> I will also get a set of 31x10.50x15 MT-tires on 15x10 rims.
That's the problem with wanting big tires under a Jeep - geometry
changes. You need to put a proper lift under it.
I removed the shackles that came on my wife's YJ, as well as the 31
x10s, because of the steering and vibration. Google up "Jeepers" in this
group, and you can see what I went through. Not to mention the tires
stick WAY out past the fenders (legal problem in some places) causing
every bit of mud or dirty water to splash up on the sides and softtop.
If you EVER want a clean Jeep, wide tires and wheels will ruin it for
you, it will ALWAYS be dirty. Besides, those tires sticking out require
even MORE lift, because they will now rub your fenders because they
aren't tucked into the fenderwells anymore. Been there, done that, have
the T-Shirt to prove it.
Her Jeep handles TONS better in the stock configuration. If you really
want those big tires, get a proper lift and a tailshaft conversion for
the transfer case. Otherwise you WILL need shims for the leafsprings to
counteract the crappy little lift you'll get from shackles. By the time
you did all this you could have had a fair lift kit put on.
07-06-2004, 05:04 PM
#25
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Re: Shacklelift YJ ?
In article <ccf2nk$ldv$1@green.tninet.se>,
"Tommy" <wrangler@_nospam_brevet.nu> wrote:
> does a 1 3/4" lift really have any notisable affect on the Jeeps handling on
> the road ?
Yes. It will change the caster angle making the Jeep seem twitchy. A
Jeep should NOT be twitchy at 70 miles per hour.
It will also change the driveline angle between the transfer case output
shaft and the input shafts, causing vibration and premature wear to the
U joints.
> I will also get a set of 31x10.50x15 MT-tires on 15x10 rims.
That's the problem with wanting big tires under a Jeep - geometry
changes. You need to put a proper lift under it.
I removed the shackles that came on my wife's YJ, as well as the 31
x10s, because of the steering and vibration. Google up "Jeepers" in this
group, and you can see what I went through. Not to mention the tires
stick WAY out past the fenders (legal problem in some places) causing
every bit of mud or dirty water to splash up on the sides and softtop.
If you EVER want a clean Jeep, wide tires and wheels will ruin it for
you, it will ALWAYS be dirty. Besides, those tires sticking out require
even MORE lift, because they will now rub your fenders because they
aren't tucked into the fenderwells anymore. Been there, done that, have
the T-Shirt to prove it.
Her Jeep handles TONS better in the stock configuration. If you really
want those big tires, get a proper lift and a tailshaft conversion for
the transfer case. Otherwise you WILL need shims for the leafsprings to
counteract the crappy little lift you'll get from shackles. By the time
you did all this you could have had a fair lift kit put on.
"Tommy" <wrangler@_nospam_brevet.nu> wrote:
> does a 1 3/4" lift really have any notisable affect on the Jeeps handling on
> the road ?
Yes. It will change the caster angle making the Jeep seem twitchy. A
Jeep should NOT be twitchy at 70 miles per hour.
It will also change the driveline angle between the transfer case output
shaft and the input shafts, causing vibration and premature wear to the
U joints.
> I will also get a set of 31x10.50x15 MT-tires on 15x10 rims.
That's the problem with wanting big tires under a Jeep - geometry
changes. You need to put a proper lift under it.
I removed the shackles that came on my wife's YJ, as well as the 31
x10s, because of the steering and vibration. Google up "Jeepers" in this
group, and you can see what I went through. Not to mention the tires
stick WAY out past the fenders (legal problem in some places) causing
every bit of mud or dirty water to splash up on the sides and softtop.
If you EVER want a clean Jeep, wide tires and wheels will ruin it for
you, it will ALWAYS be dirty. Besides, those tires sticking out require
even MORE lift, because they will now rub your fenders because they
aren't tucked into the fenderwells anymore. Been there, done that, have
the T-Shirt to prove it.
Her Jeep handles TONS better in the stock configuration. If you really
want those big tires, get a proper lift and a tailshaft conversion for
the transfer case. Otherwise you WILL need shims for the leafsprings to
counteract the crappy little lift you'll get from shackles. By the time
you did all this you could have had a fair lift kit put on.
07-06-2004, 05:14 PM
#26
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Re: Shacklelift YJ ?
Just do it.... I've had a shackle lift forever, and then I put on a regular
spring lift on top of it!
You'll like the flex they give you but your springs will wear a bit faster.
You might need longer shocks. You'll be agrivated though at banging them
into stuff on the trail. Ya, your jeep will handle a bit differently but
you'll get used to it.
Nick
"Tommy" <wrangler@_nospam_brevet.nu> wrote in message
news:ccf2nk$ldv$1@green.tninet.se...
> does a 1 3/4" lift really have any notisable affect on the Jeeps handling
on
> the road ?
> I will also get a set of 31x10.50x15 MT-tires on 15x10 rims.
>
> "Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> skrev i meddelandet
> news:moomesa-4EE32A.14272906072004@corp.supernews.com...
> > In article <ccephh$3ia$1@green.tninet.se>, "Tommy" <wrangler@brevet.nu>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Im thinking on shacklelift 1 1/4", how will this affect the jeeps
> handlin on
> > > the road, its a everyday driver. As u know its a cheap lift and rather
> easy
> > > to do yourself, right?
> >
> > don't do it
> >
> > changes the handling and geometry of the axles and caster
>
>
spring lift on top of it!
You'll like the flex they give you but your springs will wear a bit faster.
You might need longer shocks. You'll be agrivated though at banging them
into stuff on the trail. Ya, your jeep will handle a bit differently but
you'll get used to it.
Nick
"Tommy" <wrangler@_nospam_brevet.nu> wrote in message
news:ccf2nk$ldv$1@green.tninet.se...
> does a 1 3/4" lift really have any notisable affect on the Jeeps handling
on
> the road ?
> I will also get a set of 31x10.50x15 MT-tires on 15x10 rims.
>
> "Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> skrev i meddelandet
> news:moomesa-4EE32A.14272906072004@corp.supernews.com...
> > In article <ccephh$3ia$1@green.tninet.se>, "Tommy" <wrangler@brevet.nu>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Im thinking on shacklelift 1 1/4", how will this affect the jeeps
> handlin on
> > > the road, its a everyday driver. As u know its a cheap lift and rather
> easy
> > > to do yourself, right?
> >
> > don't do it
> >
> > changes the handling and geometry of the axles and caster
>
>
07-06-2004, 05:14 PM
#27
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Posts: n/a
Re: Shacklelift YJ ?
Just do it.... I've had a shackle lift forever, and then I put on a regular
spring lift on top of it!
You'll like the flex they give you but your springs will wear a bit faster.
You might need longer shocks. You'll be agrivated though at banging them
into stuff on the trail. Ya, your jeep will handle a bit differently but
you'll get used to it.
Nick
"Tommy" <wrangler@_nospam_brevet.nu> wrote in message
news:ccf2nk$ldv$1@green.tninet.se...
> does a 1 3/4" lift really have any notisable affect on the Jeeps handling
on
> the road ?
> I will also get a set of 31x10.50x15 MT-tires on 15x10 rims.
>
> "Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> skrev i meddelandet
> news:moomesa-4EE32A.14272906072004@corp.supernews.com...
> > In article <ccephh$3ia$1@green.tninet.se>, "Tommy" <wrangler@brevet.nu>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Im thinking on shacklelift 1 1/4", how will this affect the jeeps
> handlin on
> > > the road, its a everyday driver. As u know its a cheap lift and rather
> easy
> > > to do yourself, right?
> >
> > don't do it
> >
> > changes the handling and geometry of the axles and caster
>
>
spring lift on top of it!
You'll like the flex they give you but your springs will wear a bit faster.
You might need longer shocks. You'll be agrivated though at banging them
into stuff on the trail. Ya, your jeep will handle a bit differently but
you'll get used to it.
Nick
"Tommy" <wrangler@_nospam_brevet.nu> wrote in message
news:ccf2nk$ldv$1@green.tninet.se...
> does a 1 3/4" lift really have any notisable affect on the Jeeps handling
on
> the road ?
> I will also get a set of 31x10.50x15 MT-tires on 15x10 rims.
>
> "Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> skrev i meddelandet
> news:moomesa-4EE32A.14272906072004@corp.supernews.com...
> > In article <ccephh$3ia$1@green.tninet.se>, "Tommy" <wrangler@brevet.nu>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Im thinking on shacklelift 1 1/4", how will this affect the jeeps
> handlin on
> > > the road, its a everyday driver. As u know its a cheap lift and rather
> easy
> > > to do yourself, right?
> >
> > don't do it
> >
> > changes the handling and geometry of the axles and caster
>
>
07-06-2004, 05:14 PM
#28
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Shacklelift YJ ?
Just do it.... I've had a shackle lift forever, and then I put on a regular
spring lift on top of it!
You'll like the flex they give you but your springs will wear a bit faster.
You might need longer shocks. You'll be agrivated though at banging them
into stuff on the trail. Ya, your jeep will handle a bit differently but
you'll get used to it.
Nick
"Tommy" <wrangler@_nospam_brevet.nu> wrote in message
news:ccf2nk$ldv$1@green.tninet.se...
> does a 1 3/4" lift really have any notisable affect on the Jeeps handling
on
> the road ?
> I will also get a set of 31x10.50x15 MT-tires on 15x10 rims.
>
> "Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> skrev i meddelandet
> news:moomesa-4EE32A.14272906072004@corp.supernews.com...
> > In article <ccephh$3ia$1@green.tninet.se>, "Tommy" <wrangler@brevet.nu>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Im thinking on shacklelift 1 1/4", how will this affect the jeeps
> handlin on
> > > the road, its a everyday driver. As u know its a cheap lift and rather
> easy
> > > to do yourself, right?
> >
> > don't do it
> >
> > changes the handling and geometry of the axles and caster
>
>
spring lift on top of it!
You'll like the flex they give you but your springs will wear a bit faster.
You might need longer shocks. You'll be agrivated though at banging them
into stuff on the trail. Ya, your jeep will handle a bit differently but
you'll get used to it.
Nick
"Tommy" <wrangler@_nospam_brevet.nu> wrote in message
news:ccf2nk$ldv$1@green.tninet.se...
> does a 1 3/4" lift really have any notisable affect on the Jeeps handling
on
> the road ?
> I will also get a set of 31x10.50x15 MT-tires on 15x10 rims.
>
> "Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> skrev i meddelandet
> news:moomesa-4EE32A.14272906072004@corp.supernews.com...
> > In article <ccephh$3ia$1@green.tninet.se>, "Tommy" <wrangler@brevet.nu>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Im thinking on shacklelift 1 1/4", how will this affect the jeeps
> handlin on
> > > the road, its a everyday driver. As u know its a cheap lift and rather
> easy
> > > to do yourself, right?
> >
> > don't do it
> >
> > changes the handling and geometry of the axles and caster
>
>
07-06-2004, 05:14 PM
#29
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Shacklelift YJ ?
Just do it.... I've had a shackle lift forever, and then I put on a regular
spring lift on top of it!
You'll like the flex they give you but your springs will wear a bit faster.
You might need longer shocks. You'll be agrivated though at banging them
into stuff on the trail. Ya, your jeep will handle a bit differently but
you'll get used to it.
Nick
"Tommy" <wrangler@_nospam_brevet.nu> wrote in message
news:ccf2nk$ldv$1@green.tninet.se...
> does a 1 3/4" lift really have any notisable affect on the Jeeps handling
on
> the road ?
> I will also get a set of 31x10.50x15 MT-tires on 15x10 rims.
>
> "Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> skrev i meddelandet
> news:moomesa-4EE32A.14272906072004@corp.supernews.com...
> > In article <ccephh$3ia$1@green.tninet.se>, "Tommy" <wrangler@brevet.nu>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Im thinking on shacklelift 1 1/4", how will this affect the jeeps
> handlin on
> > > the road, its a everyday driver. As u know its a cheap lift and rather
> easy
> > > to do yourself, right?
> >
> > don't do it
> >
> > changes the handling and geometry of the axles and caster
>
>
spring lift on top of it!
You'll like the flex they give you but your springs will wear a bit faster.
You might need longer shocks. You'll be agrivated though at banging them
into stuff on the trail. Ya, your jeep will handle a bit differently but
you'll get used to it.
Nick
"Tommy" <wrangler@_nospam_brevet.nu> wrote in message
news:ccf2nk$ldv$1@green.tninet.se...
> does a 1 3/4" lift really have any notisable affect on the Jeeps handling
on
> the road ?
> I will also get a set of 31x10.50x15 MT-tires on 15x10 rims.
>
> "Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> skrev i meddelandet
> news:moomesa-4EE32A.14272906072004@corp.supernews.com...
> > In article <ccephh$3ia$1@green.tninet.se>, "Tommy" <wrangler@brevet.nu>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Im thinking on shacklelift 1 1/4", how will this affect the jeeps
> handlin on
> > > the road, its a everyday driver. As u know its a cheap lift and rather
> easy
> > > to do yourself, right?
> >
> > don't do it
> >
> > changes the handling and geometry of the axles and caster
>
>
07-06-2004, 05:26 PM
#30
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Re: Shacklelift YJ ?
Got a picture of it?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Nick N wrote:
>
> Just do it.... I've had a shackle lift forever, and then I put on a regular
> spring lift on top of it!
> You'll like the flex they give you but your springs will wear a bit faster.
> You might need longer shocks. You'll be agrivated though at banging them
> into stuff on the trail. Ya, your jeep will handle a bit differently but
> you'll get used to it.
> Nick
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Nick N wrote:
>
> Just do it.... I've had a shackle lift forever, and then I put on a regular
> spring lift on top of it!
> You'll like the flex they give you but your springs will wear a bit faster.
> You might need longer shocks. You'll be agrivated though at banging them
> into stuff on the trail. Ya, your jeep will handle a bit differently but
> you'll get used to it.
> Nick