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Re: seeking advice RE Wrangler transmission overhaul
One set will last through many trans changes in many Jeeps.
Carl <ajeeperman@comcast.net> wrote in message news:H_GdnWmWs8KccLzYnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > not really, as you have to run to the store, buy bolts,cut them off, slot > them and screw them in, place tranny inline on them, assemble works and > then unscrew them for the right bolts. whewww > old john > > "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message > news:WZGdnX0_k7IoOL3YnZ2dnUVZ_q-dnZ2d@comcast.com... >> You're working too hard. >> >> Carl >> >> <ajeeperman@comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:H5qdnQjjA7XgF73YnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >>>i have never used that setup. it is easier to just use a jack and wood . >>>but always be carefull. >>> usually, just put tranny on my chest under car and wiggle a LOT.hehehe >>> >>> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message >>> news:7uGdnWVZlexKzb3YnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >>>>I buy the bolts that have about 1 inch of thread and then a smooth >>>>shank. I guess i forgot to mention that, as I figured it was common >>>>sense.. >>>> >>>> Carl >>>> >>>> >>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >>>> news:451E7BB4.A5E7A3D4@sympatico.ca... >>>>>I could see the threads as a two sided issue. One it makes it harder >>>>>to >>>>> slip on, but in the second place it makes it harder to slip off.... >>>>> >>>>> I will post the results when this happens. I am going to use the >>>>> threaded rod. >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> Will Honea wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The bolts have one advantage: smooth shanks. Threaded rod sized to >>>>>> get a really good position is a PITA to slide things on, especially >>>>>> aluminum castings. Side note: I prefer guide pins in the top two >>>>>> bolt >>>>>> holes so that the weight of the tranny holds it close to the mating >>>>>> surface on the bottom. They are a little harder to get out and you >>>>>> can't get them as long as in the bottom but aligning the pilot is a >>>>>> lot easier when the tranny isn't sagging away from the top. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:36:33 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > Do you think you need 4 of them? I was figuring two should do, one >>>>>> > on >>>>>> > each side. I already have misc. chunks of threaded rod the right >>>>>> > size >>>>>> > kicking around so I am going to just cut off chunks of that. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I have an engine to swap soon and will try that likely. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Mike >>>>>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >>>>>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >>>>>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >>>>>> > Jan/06 >>>>>> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >>>>>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Carl wrote: >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > You should be able to buy the trans parts from the dealer. I got >>>>>> > > a new >>>>>> > > clutch for my 89 YJ from eBay for around $125. It was an OEM >>>>>> > > replacement >>>>>> > > clutch. It inlcuded clutch disk, pressure plate, pilot bearing, >>>>>> > > and >>>>>> > > alignment tool. Be sure you get the flywheel resurfaced. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > One last tip. Take one of the transmission to bellhousing bolts >>>>>> > > to the >>>>>> > > hardware store and get one of the same thread but about 5" >>>>>> > > longer. Cut the >>>>>> > > heads off and taper the ends. Also cut a slot into the end so you >>>>>> > > can use a >>>>>> > > screwdriver to remove the rods. Thread the rods into the lower >>>>>> > > four mounting >>>>>> > > holes before you re-install the transmission. When you re-install >>>>>> > > the >>>>>> > > transmission, simply put the transmission on those rods and it >>>>>> > > will slide >>>>>> > > right into perfect alignment with zero pressure on the pilot >>>>>> > > bearing. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > This would also be a good time to change the transfer case fluid. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > HTH >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > Carl >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > <jwallacq@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>> > > news:1159471707.405696.11380@i3g2000cwc.googlegrou ps.com... >>>>>> > > > My 94 Wrangler (4 cyl, 170,000 miles) started having problems >>>>>> > > > with the >>>>>> > > > 5-speed manual transmission. First I lost 5th gear, then it >>>>>> > > > started >>>>>> > > > seizing or locking up in reverse, and finally it started >>>>>> > > > locking up in >>>>>> > > > first also. >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > I have now removed it from the vehicle, and separated the >>>>>> > > > transmission >>>>>> > > > from the transfer case; and now I am wondering if it makes >>>>>> > > > sense to try >>>>>> > > > to fix it myself, or if I should send it out. (I have repaired >>>>>> > > > transmissions myself before, but not for quite a few years.) >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > My biggest concern with trying to fix it myself is whether I >>>>>> > > > will be >>>>>> > > > able to find the parts; are there any retailers out there who >>>>>> > > > sell >>>>>> > > > individual components for transmissions??? Also, will I need >>>>>> > > > to have >>>>>> > > > access to a hydraulic press to get the bearings, gears, etc. >>>>>> > > > off of >>>>>> > > > their shafts? >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > Does anybody have a ballpark idea of how much it should cost to >>>>>> > > > have >>>>>> > > > it rebuilt? And where would be the best place to take it? >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > One other question: As long as I have the transmission down, I >>>>>> > > > probably ought to replace the clutch, also. Are there any >>>>>> > > > special >>>>>> > > > "gotchas" that I need to watch out for? Will I have to buy >>>>>> > > > some kind >>>>>> > > > of alignment tool to get the new pressure plate centered >>>>>> > > > properly? >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > Thanx in advance! >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Will Honea >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > |
Re: seeking advice RE Wrangler transmission overhaul
One set will last through many trans changes in many Jeeps.
Carl <ajeeperman@comcast.net> wrote in message news:H_GdnWmWs8KccLzYnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > not really, as you have to run to the store, buy bolts,cut them off, slot > them and screw them in, place tranny inline on them, assemble works and > then unscrew them for the right bolts. whewww > old john > > "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message > news:WZGdnX0_k7IoOL3YnZ2dnUVZ_q-dnZ2d@comcast.com... >> You're working too hard. >> >> Carl >> >> <ajeeperman@comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:H5qdnQjjA7XgF73YnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >>>i have never used that setup. it is easier to just use a jack and wood . >>>but always be carefull. >>> usually, just put tranny on my chest under car and wiggle a LOT.hehehe >>> >>> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message >>> news:7uGdnWVZlexKzb3YnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >>>>I buy the bolts that have about 1 inch of thread and then a smooth >>>>shank. I guess i forgot to mention that, as I figured it was common >>>>sense.. >>>> >>>> Carl >>>> >>>> >>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >>>> news:451E7BB4.A5E7A3D4@sympatico.ca... >>>>>I could see the threads as a two sided issue. One it makes it harder >>>>>to >>>>> slip on, but in the second place it makes it harder to slip off.... >>>>> >>>>> I will post the results when this happens. I am going to use the >>>>> threaded rod. >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> Will Honea wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The bolts have one advantage: smooth shanks. Threaded rod sized to >>>>>> get a really good position is a PITA to slide things on, especially >>>>>> aluminum castings. Side note: I prefer guide pins in the top two >>>>>> bolt >>>>>> holes so that the weight of the tranny holds it close to the mating >>>>>> surface on the bottom. They are a little harder to get out and you >>>>>> can't get them as long as in the bottom but aligning the pilot is a >>>>>> lot easier when the tranny isn't sagging away from the top. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:36:33 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > Do you think you need 4 of them? I was figuring two should do, one >>>>>> > on >>>>>> > each side. I already have misc. chunks of threaded rod the right >>>>>> > size >>>>>> > kicking around so I am going to just cut off chunks of that. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I have an engine to swap soon and will try that likely. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Mike >>>>>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >>>>>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >>>>>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >>>>>> > Jan/06 >>>>>> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >>>>>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Carl wrote: >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > You should be able to buy the trans parts from the dealer. I got >>>>>> > > a new >>>>>> > > clutch for my 89 YJ from eBay for around $125. It was an OEM >>>>>> > > replacement >>>>>> > > clutch. It inlcuded clutch disk, pressure plate, pilot bearing, >>>>>> > > and >>>>>> > > alignment tool. Be sure you get the flywheel resurfaced. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > One last tip. Take one of the transmission to bellhousing bolts >>>>>> > > to the >>>>>> > > hardware store and get one of the same thread but about 5" >>>>>> > > longer. Cut the >>>>>> > > heads off and taper the ends. Also cut a slot into the end so you >>>>>> > > can use a >>>>>> > > screwdriver to remove the rods. Thread the rods into the lower >>>>>> > > four mounting >>>>>> > > holes before you re-install the transmission. When you re-install >>>>>> > > the >>>>>> > > transmission, simply put the transmission on those rods and it >>>>>> > > will slide >>>>>> > > right into perfect alignment with zero pressure on the pilot >>>>>> > > bearing. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > This would also be a good time to change the transfer case fluid. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > HTH >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > Carl >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > <jwallacq@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>> > > news:1159471707.405696.11380@i3g2000cwc.googlegrou ps.com... >>>>>> > > > My 94 Wrangler (4 cyl, 170,000 miles) started having problems >>>>>> > > > with the >>>>>> > > > 5-speed manual transmission. First I lost 5th gear, then it >>>>>> > > > started >>>>>> > > > seizing or locking up in reverse, and finally it started >>>>>> > > > locking up in >>>>>> > > > first also. >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > I have now removed it from the vehicle, and separated the >>>>>> > > > transmission >>>>>> > > > from the transfer case; and now I am wondering if it makes >>>>>> > > > sense to try >>>>>> > > > to fix it myself, or if I should send it out. (I have repaired >>>>>> > > > transmissions myself before, but not for quite a few years.) >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > My biggest concern with trying to fix it myself is whether I >>>>>> > > > will be >>>>>> > > > able to find the parts; are there any retailers out there who >>>>>> > > > sell >>>>>> > > > individual components for transmissions??? Also, will I need >>>>>> > > > to have >>>>>> > > > access to a hydraulic press to get the bearings, gears, etc. >>>>>> > > > off of >>>>>> > > > their shafts? >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > Does anybody have a ballpark idea of how much it should cost to >>>>>> > > > have >>>>>> > > > it rebuilt? And where would be the best place to take it? >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > One other question: As long as I have the transmission down, I >>>>>> > > > probably ought to replace the clutch, also. Are there any >>>>>> > > > special >>>>>> > > > "gotchas" that I need to watch out for? Will I have to buy >>>>>> > > > some kind >>>>>> > > > of alignment tool to get the new pressure plate centered >>>>>> > > > properly? >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > Thanx in advance! >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Will Honea >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > |
Re: seeking advice RE Wrangler transmission overhaul
One set will last through many trans changes in many Jeeps.
Carl <ajeeperman@comcast.net> wrote in message news:H_GdnWmWs8KccLzYnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > not really, as you have to run to the store, buy bolts,cut them off, slot > them and screw them in, place tranny inline on them, assemble works and > then unscrew them for the right bolts. whewww > old john > > "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message > news:WZGdnX0_k7IoOL3YnZ2dnUVZ_q-dnZ2d@comcast.com... >> You're working too hard. >> >> Carl >> >> <ajeeperman@comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:H5qdnQjjA7XgF73YnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >>>i have never used that setup. it is easier to just use a jack and wood . >>>but always be carefull. >>> usually, just put tranny on my chest under car and wiggle a LOT.hehehe >>> >>> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message >>> news:7uGdnWVZlexKzb3YnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >>>>I buy the bolts that have about 1 inch of thread and then a smooth >>>>shank. I guess i forgot to mention that, as I figured it was common >>>>sense.. >>>> >>>> Carl >>>> >>>> >>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >>>> news:451E7BB4.A5E7A3D4@sympatico.ca... >>>>>I could see the threads as a two sided issue. One it makes it harder >>>>>to >>>>> slip on, but in the second place it makes it harder to slip off.... >>>>> >>>>> I will post the results when this happens. I am going to use the >>>>> threaded rod. >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> Will Honea wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The bolts have one advantage: smooth shanks. Threaded rod sized to >>>>>> get a really good position is a PITA to slide things on, especially >>>>>> aluminum castings. Side note: I prefer guide pins in the top two >>>>>> bolt >>>>>> holes so that the weight of the tranny holds it close to the mating >>>>>> surface on the bottom. They are a little harder to get out and you >>>>>> can't get them as long as in the bottom but aligning the pilot is a >>>>>> lot easier when the tranny isn't sagging away from the top. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:36:33 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > Do you think you need 4 of them? I was figuring two should do, one >>>>>> > on >>>>>> > each side. I already have misc. chunks of threaded rod the right >>>>>> > size >>>>>> > kicking around so I am going to just cut off chunks of that. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I have an engine to swap soon and will try that likely. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Mike >>>>>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >>>>>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >>>>>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >>>>>> > Jan/06 >>>>>> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >>>>>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Carl wrote: >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > You should be able to buy the trans parts from the dealer. I got >>>>>> > > a new >>>>>> > > clutch for my 89 YJ from eBay for around $125. It was an OEM >>>>>> > > replacement >>>>>> > > clutch. It inlcuded clutch disk, pressure plate, pilot bearing, >>>>>> > > and >>>>>> > > alignment tool. Be sure you get the flywheel resurfaced. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > One last tip. Take one of the transmission to bellhousing bolts >>>>>> > > to the >>>>>> > > hardware store and get one of the same thread but about 5" >>>>>> > > longer. Cut the >>>>>> > > heads off and taper the ends. Also cut a slot into the end so you >>>>>> > > can use a >>>>>> > > screwdriver to remove the rods. Thread the rods into the lower >>>>>> > > four mounting >>>>>> > > holes before you re-install the transmission. When you re-install >>>>>> > > the >>>>>> > > transmission, simply put the transmission on those rods and it >>>>>> > > will slide >>>>>> > > right into perfect alignment with zero pressure on the pilot >>>>>> > > bearing. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > This would also be a good time to change the transfer case fluid. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > HTH >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > Carl >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > <jwallacq@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>> > > news:1159471707.405696.11380@i3g2000cwc.googlegrou ps.com... >>>>>> > > > My 94 Wrangler (4 cyl, 170,000 miles) started having problems >>>>>> > > > with the >>>>>> > > > 5-speed manual transmission. First I lost 5th gear, then it >>>>>> > > > started >>>>>> > > > seizing or locking up in reverse, and finally it started >>>>>> > > > locking up in >>>>>> > > > first also. >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > I have now removed it from the vehicle, and separated the >>>>>> > > > transmission >>>>>> > > > from the transfer case; and now I am wondering if it makes >>>>>> > > > sense to try >>>>>> > > > to fix it myself, or if I should send it out. (I have repaired >>>>>> > > > transmissions myself before, but not for quite a few years.) >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > My biggest concern with trying to fix it myself is whether I >>>>>> > > > will be >>>>>> > > > able to find the parts; are there any retailers out there who >>>>>> > > > sell >>>>>> > > > individual components for transmissions??? Also, will I need >>>>>> > > > to have >>>>>> > > > access to a hydraulic press to get the bearings, gears, etc. >>>>>> > > > off of >>>>>> > > > their shafts? >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > Does anybody have a ballpark idea of how much it should cost to >>>>>> > > > have >>>>>> > > > it rebuilt? And where would be the best place to take it? >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > One other question: As long as I have the transmission down, I >>>>>> > > > probably ought to replace the clutch, also. Are there any >>>>>> > > > special >>>>>> > > > "gotchas" that I need to watch out for? Will I have to buy >>>>>> > > > some kind >>>>>> > > > of alignment tool to get the new pressure plate centered >>>>>> > > > properly? >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > Thanx in advance! >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Will Honea >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > |
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