For Sale: '02 Wrangler Sport
09-27-2005, 10:47 AM
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Re: For Sale: '02 Wrangler Sport
J. Sprauer wrote:
> mabar is right.... just get everything signed and dated and milage & vin #
> at sale and keep copies handy!!
I sold a car once where the seller NEVER registered it. <G> He drove
it around with a plate he had laying around his garage.
My lawyer explained that the ownership passed when I had a signed and
dated bill of sale in my hand, and I signed the back of the title to the
next owner. The odometer reading on the BOS and title states an even
more exact moment of when the legal ownership of the vehicle passed.
Think about it. Used car dealers never register cars to themselves.
Lots of folks believe that a bill of sale is only useful for
establishing the selling price for tax purposes. The document covers a
seller's *** much more than the buyer.
> mabar is right.... just get everything signed and dated and milage & vin #
> at sale and keep copies handy!!
I sold a car once where the seller NEVER registered it. <G> He drove
it around with a plate he had laying around his garage.
My lawyer explained that the ownership passed when I had a signed and
dated bill of sale in my hand, and I signed the back of the title to the
next owner. The odometer reading on the BOS and title states an even
more exact moment of when the legal ownership of the vehicle passed.
Think about it. Used car dealers never register cars to themselves.
Lots of folks believe that a bill of sale is only useful for
establishing the selling price for tax purposes. The document covers a
seller's *** much more than the buyer.
09-27-2005, 12:07 PM
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Re: For Sale: '02 Wrangler Sport
Also in Ohio the license plates are registered to owner not the vehicle.
When I sell a car the plates come with me. The buyer can get temporary 30
day plates from their neighborhood registrar with the signed over title and
bill of sale. Those plates are registered to him.
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"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
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>I don't know how it works in California, but in Ohio when you transfer a
> vehicle title, you enter the buyer's name and address on the title,
> vehicle
> mileage, etc., then the seller signs & dates it and has his signature
> notarized. The buyer then takes the title to the Ohio Title Bureau and has
> the vehicle title transferred into his name. I suppose that technically
> there is a period of time when the buyer is driving the seller's vehicle
> (until the title actually transfers) but I think the buyers dated and
> notarized signature on the title would alleviate him of any
> responsibility.
> But then again, I am not a lawyer, so I don't know for sure how this
> works.
>
> Tom
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4338A22C.B9414E44@***.net...
>> Hi Tom,
>> I've got a car I don't need and should sell, but the thought of
>> someone taking it and killing someone with it before it is legally
>> transferred cares the heck our of me.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> mabar wrote:
>> >
>> > Never asked him, but I'm sure it was low.
>> >
>> > Tom
>
>
When I sell a car the plates come with me. The buyer can get temporary 30
day plates from their neighborhood registrar with the signed over title and
bill of sale. Those plates are registered to him.
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"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
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>I don't know how it works in California, but in Ohio when you transfer a
> vehicle title, you enter the buyer's name and address on the title,
> vehicle
> mileage, etc., then the seller signs & dates it and has his signature
> notarized. The buyer then takes the title to the Ohio Title Bureau and has
> the vehicle title transferred into his name. I suppose that technically
> there is a period of time when the buyer is driving the seller's vehicle
> (until the title actually transfers) but I think the buyers dated and
> notarized signature on the title would alleviate him of any
> responsibility.
> But then again, I am not a lawyer, so I don't know for sure how this
> works.
>
> Tom
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4338A22C.B9414E44@***.net...
>> Hi Tom,
>> I've got a car I don't need and should sell, but the thought of
>> someone taking it and killing someone with it before it is legally
>> transferred cares the heck our of me.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> mabar wrote:
>> >
>> > Never asked him, but I'm sure it was low.
>> >
>> > Tom
>
>
09-27-2005, 12:07 PM
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Re: For Sale: '02 Wrangler Sport
Also in Ohio the license plates are registered to owner not the vehicle.
When I sell a car the plates come with me. The buyer can get temporary 30
day plates from their neighborhood registrar with the signed over title and
bill of sale. Those plates are registered to him.
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"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
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>I don't know how it works in California, but in Ohio when you transfer a
> vehicle title, you enter the buyer's name and address on the title,
> vehicle
> mileage, etc., then the seller signs & dates it and has his signature
> notarized. The buyer then takes the title to the Ohio Title Bureau and has
> the vehicle title transferred into his name. I suppose that technically
> there is a period of time when the buyer is driving the seller's vehicle
> (until the title actually transfers) but I think the buyers dated and
> notarized signature on the title would alleviate him of any
> responsibility.
> But then again, I am not a lawyer, so I don't know for sure how this
> works.
>
> Tom
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4338A22C.B9414E44@***.net...
>> Hi Tom,
>> I've got a car I don't need and should sell, but the thought of
>> someone taking it and killing someone with it before it is legally
>> transferred cares the heck our of me.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> mabar wrote:
>> >
>> > Never asked him, but I'm sure it was low.
>> >
>> > Tom
>
>
When I sell a car the plates come with me. The buyer can get temporary 30
day plates from their neighborhood registrar with the signed over title and
bill of sale. Those plates are registered to him.
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"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
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>I don't know how it works in California, but in Ohio when you transfer a
> vehicle title, you enter the buyer's name and address on the title,
> vehicle
> mileage, etc., then the seller signs & dates it and has his signature
> notarized. The buyer then takes the title to the Ohio Title Bureau and has
> the vehicle title transferred into his name. I suppose that technically
> there is a period of time when the buyer is driving the seller's vehicle
> (until the title actually transfers) but I think the buyers dated and
> notarized signature on the title would alleviate him of any
> responsibility.
> But then again, I am not a lawyer, so I don't know for sure how this
> works.
>
> Tom
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4338A22C.B9414E44@***.net...
>> Hi Tom,
>> I've got a car I don't need and should sell, but the thought of
>> someone taking it and killing someone with it before it is legally
>> transferred cares the heck our of me.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> mabar wrote:
>> >
>> > Never asked him, but I'm sure it was low.
>> >
>> > Tom
>
>
09-27-2005, 12:07 PM
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Re: For Sale: '02 Wrangler Sport
Also in Ohio the license plates are registered to owner not the vehicle.
When I sell a car the plates come with me. The buyer can get temporary 30
day plates from their neighborhood registrar with the signed over title and
bill of sale. Those plates are registered to him.
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"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
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>I don't know how it works in California, but in Ohio when you transfer a
> vehicle title, you enter the buyer's name and address on the title,
> vehicle
> mileage, etc., then the seller signs & dates it and has his signature
> notarized. The buyer then takes the title to the Ohio Title Bureau and has
> the vehicle title transferred into his name. I suppose that technically
> there is a period of time when the buyer is driving the seller's vehicle
> (until the title actually transfers) but I think the buyers dated and
> notarized signature on the title would alleviate him of any
> responsibility.
> But then again, I am not a lawyer, so I don't know for sure how this
> works.
>
> Tom
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4338A22C.B9414E44@***.net...
>> Hi Tom,
>> I've got a car I don't need and should sell, but the thought of
>> someone taking it and killing someone with it before it is legally
>> transferred cares the heck our of me.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> mabar wrote:
>> >
>> > Never asked him, but I'm sure it was low.
>> >
>> > Tom
>
>
When I sell a car the plates come with me. The buyer can get temporary 30
day plates from their neighborhood registrar with the signed over title and
bill of sale. Those plates are registered to him.
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"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
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>I don't know how it works in California, but in Ohio when you transfer a
> vehicle title, you enter the buyer's name and address on the title,
> vehicle
> mileage, etc., then the seller signs & dates it and has his signature
> notarized. The buyer then takes the title to the Ohio Title Bureau and has
> the vehicle title transferred into his name. I suppose that technically
> there is a period of time when the buyer is driving the seller's vehicle
> (until the title actually transfers) but I think the buyers dated and
> notarized signature on the title would alleviate him of any
> responsibility.
> But then again, I am not a lawyer, so I don't know for sure how this
> works.
>
> Tom
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4338A22C.B9414E44@***.net...
>> Hi Tom,
>> I've got a car I don't need and should sell, but the thought of
>> someone taking it and killing someone with it before it is legally
>> transferred cares the heck our of me.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> mabar wrote:
>> >
>> > Never asked him, but I'm sure it was low.
>> >
>> > Tom
>
>
09-27-2005, 12:15 PM
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Re: For Sale: '02 Wrangler Sport
If I remember correctly in Kalifornia the license plates are registered to
the car and not the owner. If Bill sells a car and Jose does not contact
the BMV then Kalifornia still thinks Bill owns the car...... even years
later.
Is my memory correct?
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"B a r r y" <keep_it_in_the_newsgroup_please@thankyou.com> wrote in message
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> J. Sprauer wrote:
>> mabar is right.... just get everything signed and dated and milage & vin
>> #
>> at sale and keep copies handy!!
>
> I sold a car once where the seller NEVER registered it. <G> He drove it
> around with a plate he had laying around his garage.
>
> My lawyer explained that the ownership passed when I had a signed and
> dated bill of sale in my hand, and I signed the back of the title to the
> next owner. The odometer reading on the BOS and title states an even more
> exact moment of when the legal ownership of the vehicle passed.
>
> Think about it. Used car dealers never register cars to themselves.
>
> Lots of folks believe that a bill of sale is only useful for establishing
> the selling price for tax purposes. The document covers a seller's ***
> much more than the buyer.
the car and not the owner. If Bill sells a car and Jose does not contact
the BMV then Kalifornia still thinks Bill owns the car...... even years
later.
Is my memory correct?
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"B a r r y" <keep_it_in_the_newsgroup_please@thankyou.com> wrote in message
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> J. Sprauer wrote:
>> mabar is right.... just get everything signed and dated and milage & vin
>> #
>> at sale and keep copies handy!!
>
> I sold a car once where the seller NEVER registered it. <G> He drove it
> around with a plate he had laying around his garage.
>
> My lawyer explained that the ownership passed when I had a signed and
> dated bill of sale in my hand, and I signed the back of the title to the
> next owner. The odometer reading on the BOS and title states an even more
> exact moment of when the legal ownership of the vehicle passed.
>
> Think about it. Used car dealers never register cars to themselves.
>
> Lots of folks believe that a bill of sale is only useful for establishing
> the selling price for tax purposes. The document covers a seller's ***
> much more than the buyer.
09-27-2005, 12:15 PM
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Re: For Sale: '02 Wrangler Sport
If I remember correctly in Kalifornia the license plates are registered to
the car and not the owner. If Bill sells a car and Jose does not contact
the BMV then Kalifornia still thinks Bill owns the car...... even years
later.
Is my memory correct?
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"B a r r y" <keep_it_in_the_newsgroup_please@thankyou.com> wrote in message
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> J. Sprauer wrote:
>> mabar is right.... just get everything signed and dated and milage & vin
>> #
>> at sale and keep copies handy!!
>
> I sold a car once where the seller NEVER registered it. <G> He drove it
> around with a plate he had laying around his garage.
>
> My lawyer explained that the ownership passed when I had a signed and
> dated bill of sale in my hand, and I signed the back of the title to the
> next owner. The odometer reading on the BOS and title states an even more
> exact moment of when the legal ownership of the vehicle passed.
>
> Think about it. Used car dealers never register cars to themselves.
>
> Lots of folks believe that a bill of sale is only useful for establishing
> the selling price for tax purposes. The document covers a seller's ***
> much more than the buyer.
the car and not the owner. If Bill sells a car and Jose does not contact
the BMV then Kalifornia still thinks Bill owns the car...... even years
later.
Is my memory correct?
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"B a r r y" <keep_it_in_the_newsgroup_please@thankyou.com> wrote in message
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> J. Sprauer wrote:
>> mabar is right.... just get everything signed and dated and milage & vin
>> #
>> at sale and keep copies handy!!
>
> I sold a car once where the seller NEVER registered it. <G> He drove it
> around with a plate he had laying around his garage.
>
> My lawyer explained that the ownership passed when I had a signed and
> dated bill of sale in my hand, and I signed the back of the title to the
> next owner. The odometer reading on the BOS and title states an even more
> exact moment of when the legal ownership of the vehicle passed.
>
> Think about it. Used car dealers never register cars to themselves.
>
> Lots of folks believe that a bill of sale is only useful for establishing
> the selling price for tax purposes. The document covers a seller's ***
> much more than the buyer.
09-27-2005, 12:15 PM
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Re: For Sale: '02 Wrangler Sport
If I remember correctly in Kalifornia the license plates are registered to
the car and not the owner. If Bill sells a car and Jose does not contact
the BMV then Kalifornia still thinks Bill owns the car...... even years
later.
Is my memory correct?
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"B a r r y" <keep_it_in_the_newsgroup_please@thankyou.com> wrote in message
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> J. Sprauer wrote:
>> mabar is right.... just get everything signed and dated and milage & vin
>> #
>> at sale and keep copies handy!!
>
> I sold a car once where the seller NEVER registered it. <G> He drove it
> around with a plate he had laying around his garage.
>
> My lawyer explained that the ownership passed when I had a signed and
> dated bill of sale in my hand, and I signed the back of the title to the
> next owner. The odometer reading on the BOS and title states an even more
> exact moment of when the legal ownership of the vehicle passed.
>
> Think about it. Used car dealers never register cars to themselves.
>
> Lots of folks believe that a bill of sale is only useful for establishing
> the selling price for tax purposes. The document covers a seller's ***
> much more than the buyer.
the car and not the owner. If Bill sells a car and Jose does not contact
the BMV then Kalifornia still thinks Bill owns the car...... even years
later.
Is my memory correct?
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"B a r r y" <keep_it_in_the_newsgroup_please@thankyou.com> wrote in message
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> J. Sprauer wrote:
>> mabar is right.... just get everything signed and dated and milage & vin
>> #
>> at sale and keep copies handy!!
>
> I sold a car once where the seller NEVER registered it. <G> He drove it
> around with a plate he had laying around his garage.
>
> My lawyer explained that the ownership passed when I had a signed and
> dated bill of sale in my hand, and I signed the back of the title to the
> next owner. The odometer reading on the BOS and title states an even more
> exact moment of when the legal ownership of the vehicle passed.
>
> Think about it. Used car dealers never register cars to themselves.
>
> Lots of folks believe that a bill of sale is only useful for establishing
> the selling price for tax purposes. The document covers a seller's ***
> much more than the buyer.
09-27-2005, 02:32 PM
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Re: For Sale: '02 Wrangler Sport
Billy Ray wrote:
> If I remember correctly in Kalifornia the license plates are registered to
> the car and not the owner. If Bill sells a car and Jose does not contact
> the BMV then Kalifornia still thinks Bill owns the car...... even years
> later.
>
> Is my memory correct?
>
In CA (KA), The seller fills out a notice of sale or transfer.
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/forms/reg/reg138.htm
> If I remember correctly in Kalifornia the license plates are registered to
> the car and not the owner. If Bill sells a car and Jose does not contact
> the BMV then Kalifornia still thinks Bill owns the car...... even years
> later.
>
> Is my memory correct?
>
In CA (KA), The seller fills out a notice of sale or transfer.
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/forms/reg/reg138.htm
09-27-2005, 02:32 PM
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Re: For Sale: '02 Wrangler Sport
Billy Ray wrote:
> If I remember correctly in Kalifornia the license plates are registered to
> the car and not the owner. If Bill sells a car and Jose does not contact
> the BMV then Kalifornia still thinks Bill owns the car...... even years
> later.
>
> Is my memory correct?
>
In CA (KA), The seller fills out a notice of sale or transfer.
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/forms/reg/reg138.htm
> If I remember correctly in Kalifornia the license plates are registered to
> the car and not the owner. If Bill sells a car and Jose does not contact
> the BMV then Kalifornia still thinks Bill owns the car...... even years
> later.
>
> Is my memory correct?
>
In CA (KA), The seller fills out a notice of sale or transfer.
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/forms/reg/reg138.htm
09-27-2005, 02:32 PM
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Re: For Sale: '02 Wrangler Sport
Billy Ray wrote:
> If I remember correctly in Kalifornia the license plates are registered to
> the car and not the owner. If Bill sells a car and Jose does not contact
> the BMV then Kalifornia still thinks Bill owns the car...... even years
> later.
>
> Is my memory correct?
>
In CA (KA), The seller fills out a notice of sale or transfer.
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/forms/reg/reg138.htm
> If I remember correctly in Kalifornia the license plates are registered to
> the car and not the owner. If Bill sells a car and Jose does not contact
> the BMV then Kalifornia still thinks Bill owns the car...... even years
> later.
>
> Is my memory correct?
>
In CA (KA), The seller fills out a notice of sale or transfer.
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/forms/reg/reg138.htm