Russell extended brake lines
02-23-2004, 11:48 PM
#2
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Russell extended brake lines
hi bill! did you install that 4.0 head yet?
i have a set of brake lines (2 front, 1 rear) from them sitting in a box. i
haven't installed them yet so i can't really comment on the quality once
installed. the lines look really well made though, nice finish and material.
too bad you're down south-sounds like you're doing a lot of the same stuff i
am or have done...
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1c3b8$1h0g4c$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Can anyone comment on the quality of Russell Brake lines? Is the brand a
> quality product?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
i have a set of brake lines (2 front, 1 rear) from them sitting in a box. i
haven't installed them yet so i can't really comment on the quality once
installed. the lines look really well made though, nice finish and material.
too bad you're down south-sounds like you're doing a lot of the same stuff i
am or have done...
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1c3b8$1h0g4c$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Can anyone comment on the quality of Russell Brake lines? Is the brand a
> quality product?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
02-23-2004, 11:48 PM
#3
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Russell extended brake lines
hi bill! did you install that 4.0 head yet?
i have a set of brake lines (2 front, 1 rear) from them sitting in a box. i
haven't installed them yet so i can't really comment on the quality once
installed. the lines look really well made though, nice finish and material.
too bad you're down south-sounds like you're doing a lot of the same stuff i
am or have done...
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1c3b8$1h0g4c$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Can anyone comment on the quality of Russell Brake lines? Is the brand a
> quality product?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
i have a set of brake lines (2 front, 1 rear) from them sitting in a box. i
haven't installed them yet so i can't really comment on the quality once
installed. the lines look really well made though, nice finish and material.
too bad you're down south-sounds like you're doing a lot of the same stuff i
am or have done...
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1c3b8$1h0g4c$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Can anyone comment on the quality of Russell Brake lines? Is the brand a
> quality product?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
02-23-2004, 11:48 PM
#4
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Russell extended brake lines
hi bill! did you install that 4.0 head yet?
i have a set of brake lines (2 front, 1 rear) from them sitting in a box. i
haven't installed them yet so i can't really comment on the quality once
installed. the lines look really well made though, nice finish and material.
too bad you're down south-sounds like you're doing a lot of the same stuff i
am or have done...
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1c3b8$1h0g4c$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Can anyone comment on the quality of Russell Brake lines? Is the brand a
> quality product?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
i have a set of brake lines (2 front, 1 rear) from them sitting in a box. i
haven't installed them yet so i can't really comment on the quality once
installed. the lines look really well made though, nice finish and material.
too bad you're down south-sounds like you're doing a lot of the same stuff i
am or have done...
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1c3b8$1h0g4c$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Can anyone comment on the quality of Russell Brake lines? Is the brand a
> quality product?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
02-24-2004, 12:57 AM
#5
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Russell extended brake lines
Hey Serg,
Did you install your MPI kit yet? I just had the 4.0L head reworked and
inspected. The machine shop did a 3 angle valve job and surfaced the head.
This was the second shop I took this head to. The first shop was a parts
store who sent it out of town to have it "looked at" when I first brought it
in. The told me the place would inspect it and let me know what it needed.
Later they called me and told me it needed a valve job, the head surfaced,
and work on the valve guides. The wanted to Knurl the guides and the guy at
the parts store was telling me that knurling makes the guides even better
because it allows oil down into the guide for more lubrication. I later
find out what a load-o-crap that line was. Anyway, I told them hold off for
now and I'll bring it back when I have more cash (the estimate they gave me
was more than I expected). Turns out when I went to the shop to pick it up
there was a 45.00 inspection fee that the parts shop didn't tell me about
that would be applied to the head work should I have it done. This kinda
pissed me off because they should have told me about this charge up front in
my opinion. Then they told me I had to buy the head gasket kit from them at
80.00 or they couldn't complete the job. It was getting too sticky, too bad
a feeling, so I took the head home and just recently found another shop
locally I could deal with. This shop told me the guides were in great shape
and didn't need to be redone at all so he did the valve job and surfaced the
head and the work looks great. I ate the 45.00 on the previous shop but
they have lost my business.
I had an similar experience with Four Wheel Parts locally (Irvine). I had
ordered some valve cover gaskets, the thicker cork ones for my aluminum
valve cover. The guy quoted me 8.00 each for the gaskets. I say, OK as
that was a good price. First he needs my Credit Card number before he can
order the gaskets which I didn't want to do but finally did cuz I needed the
gaskets. Then I go to pick them up and find there's an additional 3.00
shipping charge which again, pissed me off. Not only that but the day
before I had changed plans and didn't need the gaskets and asked them if it
would be ok to send them back and the guy says sure, no problem. Well if
it's ok to send them back then why the he77 does he need my Credit Card
Number? Anyway, I decided to pick one up anyway (which was when I found out
about the 3.00 shipping charge) but I was still pissed.
Anyway, the point of these two stories and buyer beware of shady business
practices.
Bill
"serg" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:IIA_b.1879$Zz7.224@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com ...
> hi bill! did you install that 4.0 head yet?
> i have a set of brake lines (2 front, 1 rear) from them sitting in a box.
i
> haven't installed them yet so i can't really comment on the quality once
> installed. the lines look really well made though, nice finish and
material.
> too bad you're down south-sounds like you're doing a lot of the same stuff
i
> am or have done...
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:c1c3b8$1h0g4c$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Can anyone comment on the quality of Russell Brake lines? Is the brand
a
> > quality product?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Did you install your MPI kit yet? I just had the 4.0L head reworked and
inspected. The machine shop did a 3 angle valve job and surfaced the head.
This was the second shop I took this head to. The first shop was a parts
store who sent it out of town to have it "looked at" when I first brought it
in. The told me the place would inspect it and let me know what it needed.
Later they called me and told me it needed a valve job, the head surfaced,
and work on the valve guides. The wanted to Knurl the guides and the guy at
the parts store was telling me that knurling makes the guides even better
because it allows oil down into the guide for more lubrication. I later
find out what a load-o-crap that line was. Anyway, I told them hold off for
now and I'll bring it back when I have more cash (the estimate they gave me
was more than I expected). Turns out when I went to the shop to pick it up
there was a 45.00 inspection fee that the parts shop didn't tell me about
that would be applied to the head work should I have it done. This kinda
pissed me off because they should have told me about this charge up front in
my opinion. Then they told me I had to buy the head gasket kit from them at
80.00 or they couldn't complete the job. It was getting too sticky, too bad
a feeling, so I took the head home and just recently found another shop
locally I could deal with. This shop told me the guides were in great shape
and didn't need to be redone at all so he did the valve job and surfaced the
head and the work looks great. I ate the 45.00 on the previous shop but
they have lost my business.
I had an similar experience with Four Wheel Parts locally (Irvine). I had
ordered some valve cover gaskets, the thicker cork ones for my aluminum
valve cover. The guy quoted me 8.00 each for the gaskets. I say, OK as
that was a good price. First he needs my Credit Card number before he can
order the gaskets which I didn't want to do but finally did cuz I needed the
gaskets. Then I go to pick them up and find there's an additional 3.00
shipping charge which again, pissed me off. Not only that but the day
before I had changed plans and didn't need the gaskets and asked them if it
would be ok to send them back and the guy says sure, no problem. Well if
it's ok to send them back then why the he77 does he need my Credit Card
Number? Anyway, I decided to pick one up anyway (which was when I found out
about the 3.00 shipping charge) but I was still pissed.
Anyway, the point of these two stories and buyer beware of shady business
practices.
Bill
"serg" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:IIA_b.1879$Zz7.224@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com ...
> hi bill! did you install that 4.0 head yet?
> i have a set of brake lines (2 front, 1 rear) from them sitting in a box.
i
> haven't installed them yet so i can't really comment on the quality once
> installed. the lines look really well made though, nice finish and
material.
> too bad you're down south-sounds like you're doing a lot of the same stuff
i
> am or have done...
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:c1c3b8$1h0g4c$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Can anyone comment on the quality of Russell Brake lines? Is the brand
a
> > quality product?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
>
>
02-24-2004, 12:57 AM
#6
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Russell extended brake lines
Hey Serg,
Did you install your MPI kit yet? I just had the 4.0L head reworked and
inspected. The machine shop did a 3 angle valve job and surfaced the head.
This was the second shop I took this head to. The first shop was a parts
store who sent it out of town to have it "looked at" when I first brought it
in. The told me the place would inspect it and let me know what it needed.
Later they called me and told me it needed a valve job, the head surfaced,
and work on the valve guides. The wanted to Knurl the guides and the guy at
the parts store was telling me that knurling makes the guides even better
because it allows oil down into the guide for more lubrication. I later
find out what a load-o-crap that line was. Anyway, I told them hold off for
now and I'll bring it back when I have more cash (the estimate they gave me
was more than I expected). Turns out when I went to the shop to pick it up
there was a 45.00 inspection fee that the parts shop didn't tell me about
that would be applied to the head work should I have it done. This kinda
pissed me off because they should have told me about this charge up front in
my opinion. Then they told me I had to buy the head gasket kit from them at
80.00 or they couldn't complete the job. It was getting too sticky, too bad
a feeling, so I took the head home and just recently found another shop
locally I could deal with. This shop told me the guides were in great shape
and didn't need to be redone at all so he did the valve job and surfaced the
head and the work looks great. I ate the 45.00 on the previous shop but
they have lost my business.
I had an similar experience with Four Wheel Parts locally (Irvine). I had
ordered some valve cover gaskets, the thicker cork ones for my aluminum
valve cover. The guy quoted me 8.00 each for the gaskets. I say, OK as
that was a good price. First he needs my Credit Card number before he can
order the gaskets which I didn't want to do but finally did cuz I needed the
gaskets. Then I go to pick them up and find there's an additional 3.00
shipping charge which again, pissed me off. Not only that but the day
before I had changed plans and didn't need the gaskets and asked them if it
would be ok to send them back and the guy says sure, no problem. Well if
it's ok to send them back then why the he77 does he need my Credit Card
Number? Anyway, I decided to pick one up anyway (which was when I found out
about the 3.00 shipping charge) but I was still pissed.
Anyway, the point of these two stories and buyer beware of shady business
practices.
Bill
"serg" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:IIA_b.1879$Zz7.224@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com ...
> hi bill! did you install that 4.0 head yet?
> i have a set of brake lines (2 front, 1 rear) from them sitting in a box.
i
> haven't installed them yet so i can't really comment on the quality once
> installed. the lines look really well made though, nice finish and
material.
> too bad you're down south-sounds like you're doing a lot of the same stuff
i
> am or have done...
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:c1c3b8$1h0g4c$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Can anyone comment on the quality of Russell Brake lines? Is the brand
a
> > quality product?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Did you install your MPI kit yet? I just had the 4.0L head reworked and
inspected. The machine shop did a 3 angle valve job and surfaced the head.
This was the second shop I took this head to. The first shop was a parts
store who sent it out of town to have it "looked at" when I first brought it
in. The told me the place would inspect it and let me know what it needed.
Later they called me and told me it needed a valve job, the head surfaced,
and work on the valve guides. The wanted to Knurl the guides and the guy at
the parts store was telling me that knurling makes the guides even better
because it allows oil down into the guide for more lubrication. I later
find out what a load-o-crap that line was. Anyway, I told them hold off for
now and I'll bring it back when I have more cash (the estimate they gave me
was more than I expected). Turns out when I went to the shop to pick it up
there was a 45.00 inspection fee that the parts shop didn't tell me about
that would be applied to the head work should I have it done. This kinda
pissed me off because they should have told me about this charge up front in
my opinion. Then they told me I had to buy the head gasket kit from them at
80.00 or they couldn't complete the job. It was getting too sticky, too bad
a feeling, so I took the head home and just recently found another shop
locally I could deal with. This shop told me the guides were in great shape
and didn't need to be redone at all so he did the valve job and surfaced the
head and the work looks great. I ate the 45.00 on the previous shop but
they have lost my business.
I had an similar experience with Four Wheel Parts locally (Irvine). I had
ordered some valve cover gaskets, the thicker cork ones for my aluminum
valve cover. The guy quoted me 8.00 each for the gaskets. I say, OK as
that was a good price. First he needs my Credit Card number before he can
order the gaskets which I didn't want to do but finally did cuz I needed the
gaskets. Then I go to pick them up and find there's an additional 3.00
shipping charge which again, pissed me off. Not only that but the day
before I had changed plans and didn't need the gaskets and asked them if it
would be ok to send them back and the guy says sure, no problem. Well if
it's ok to send them back then why the he77 does he need my Credit Card
Number? Anyway, I decided to pick one up anyway (which was when I found out
about the 3.00 shipping charge) but I was still pissed.
Anyway, the point of these two stories and buyer beware of shady business
practices.
Bill
"serg" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:IIA_b.1879$Zz7.224@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com ...
> hi bill! did you install that 4.0 head yet?
> i have a set of brake lines (2 front, 1 rear) from them sitting in a box.
i
> haven't installed them yet so i can't really comment on the quality once
> installed. the lines look really well made though, nice finish and
material.
> too bad you're down south-sounds like you're doing a lot of the same stuff
i
> am or have done...
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:c1c3b8$1h0g4c$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Can anyone comment on the quality of Russell Brake lines? Is the brand
a
> > quality product?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
>
>
02-24-2004, 12:57 AM
#7
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Russell extended brake lines
Hey Serg,
Did you install your MPI kit yet? I just had the 4.0L head reworked and
inspected. The machine shop did a 3 angle valve job and surfaced the head.
This was the second shop I took this head to. The first shop was a parts
store who sent it out of town to have it "looked at" when I first brought it
in. The told me the place would inspect it and let me know what it needed.
Later they called me and told me it needed a valve job, the head surfaced,
and work on the valve guides. The wanted to Knurl the guides and the guy at
the parts store was telling me that knurling makes the guides even better
because it allows oil down into the guide for more lubrication. I later
find out what a load-o-crap that line was. Anyway, I told them hold off for
now and I'll bring it back when I have more cash (the estimate they gave me
was more than I expected). Turns out when I went to the shop to pick it up
there was a 45.00 inspection fee that the parts shop didn't tell me about
that would be applied to the head work should I have it done. This kinda
pissed me off because they should have told me about this charge up front in
my opinion. Then they told me I had to buy the head gasket kit from them at
80.00 or they couldn't complete the job. It was getting too sticky, too bad
a feeling, so I took the head home and just recently found another shop
locally I could deal with. This shop told me the guides were in great shape
and didn't need to be redone at all so he did the valve job and surfaced the
head and the work looks great. I ate the 45.00 on the previous shop but
they have lost my business.
I had an similar experience with Four Wheel Parts locally (Irvine). I had
ordered some valve cover gaskets, the thicker cork ones for my aluminum
valve cover. The guy quoted me 8.00 each for the gaskets. I say, OK as
that was a good price. First he needs my Credit Card number before he can
order the gaskets which I didn't want to do but finally did cuz I needed the
gaskets. Then I go to pick them up and find there's an additional 3.00
shipping charge which again, pissed me off. Not only that but the day
before I had changed plans and didn't need the gaskets and asked them if it
would be ok to send them back and the guy says sure, no problem. Well if
it's ok to send them back then why the he77 does he need my Credit Card
Number? Anyway, I decided to pick one up anyway (which was when I found out
about the 3.00 shipping charge) but I was still pissed.
Anyway, the point of these two stories and buyer beware of shady business
practices.
Bill
"serg" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:IIA_b.1879$Zz7.224@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com ...
> hi bill! did you install that 4.0 head yet?
> i have a set of brake lines (2 front, 1 rear) from them sitting in a box.
i
> haven't installed them yet so i can't really comment on the quality once
> installed. the lines look really well made though, nice finish and
material.
> too bad you're down south-sounds like you're doing a lot of the same stuff
i
> am or have done...
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:c1c3b8$1h0g4c$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Can anyone comment on the quality of Russell Brake lines? Is the brand
a
> > quality product?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Did you install your MPI kit yet? I just had the 4.0L head reworked and
inspected. The machine shop did a 3 angle valve job and surfaced the head.
This was the second shop I took this head to. The first shop was a parts
store who sent it out of town to have it "looked at" when I first brought it
in. The told me the place would inspect it and let me know what it needed.
Later they called me and told me it needed a valve job, the head surfaced,
and work on the valve guides. The wanted to Knurl the guides and the guy at
the parts store was telling me that knurling makes the guides even better
because it allows oil down into the guide for more lubrication. I later
find out what a load-o-crap that line was. Anyway, I told them hold off for
now and I'll bring it back when I have more cash (the estimate they gave me
was more than I expected). Turns out when I went to the shop to pick it up
there was a 45.00 inspection fee that the parts shop didn't tell me about
that would be applied to the head work should I have it done. This kinda
pissed me off because they should have told me about this charge up front in
my opinion. Then they told me I had to buy the head gasket kit from them at
80.00 or they couldn't complete the job. It was getting too sticky, too bad
a feeling, so I took the head home and just recently found another shop
locally I could deal with. This shop told me the guides were in great shape
and didn't need to be redone at all so he did the valve job and surfaced the
head and the work looks great. I ate the 45.00 on the previous shop but
they have lost my business.
I had an similar experience with Four Wheel Parts locally (Irvine). I had
ordered some valve cover gaskets, the thicker cork ones for my aluminum
valve cover. The guy quoted me 8.00 each for the gaskets. I say, OK as
that was a good price. First he needs my Credit Card number before he can
order the gaskets which I didn't want to do but finally did cuz I needed the
gaskets. Then I go to pick them up and find there's an additional 3.00
shipping charge which again, pissed me off. Not only that but the day
before I had changed plans and didn't need the gaskets and asked them if it
would be ok to send them back and the guy says sure, no problem. Well if
it's ok to send them back then why the he77 does he need my Credit Card
Number? Anyway, I decided to pick one up anyway (which was when I found out
about the 3.00 shipping charge) but I was still pissed.
Anyway, the point of these two stories and buyer beware of shady business
practices.
Bill
"serg" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:IIA_b.1879$Zz7.224@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com ...
> hi bill! did you install that 4.0 head yet?
> i have a set of brake lines (2 front, 1 rear) from them sitting in a box.
i
> haven't installed them yet so i can't really comment on the quality once
> installed. the lines look really well made though, nice finish and
material.
> too bad you're down south-sounds like you're doing a lot of the same stuff
i
> am or have done...
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:c1c3b8$1h0g4c$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Can anyone comment on the quality of Russell Brake lines? Is the brand
a
> > quality product?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
>
>
02-24-2004, 01:22 AM
#8
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Russell extended brake lines
Ok, I just found the documentation on the 4.0L head. The shop gave me a
price of 245.00 to surface the head, valve job, and narrow the guides
(Knurling). In addition, the head gasket kit was 85.00 for a grand price of
330.00 plus tax @ 7.75% = ~355.00.
The second shop I took it to charged me 140.00, tax included.
Bill
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1ep72$1hslih$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Hey Serg,
>
> Did you install your MPI kit yet? I just had the 4.0L head reworked and
> inspected. The machine shop did a 3 angle valve job and surfaced the
head.
>
> This was the second shop I took this head to. The first shop was a parts
> store who sent it out of town to have it "looked at" when I first brought
it
> in. The told me the place would inspect it and let me know what it
needed.
> Later they called me and told me it needed a valve job, the head surfaced,
> and work on the valve guides. The wanted to Knurl the guides and the guy
at
> the parts store was telling me that knurling makes the guides even better
> because it allows oil down into the guide for more lubrication. I later
> find out what a load-o-crap that line was. Anyway, I told them hold off
for
> now and I'll bring it back when I have more cash (the estimate they gave
me
> was more than I expected). Turns out when I went to the shop to pick it
up
> there was a 45.00 inspection fee that the parts shop didn't tell me about
> that would be applied to the head work should I have it done. This kinda
> pissed me off because they should have told me about this charge up front
in
> my opinion. Then they told me I had to buy the head gasket kit from them
at
> 80.00 or they couldn't complete the job. It was getting too sticky, too
bad
> a feeling, so I took the head home and just recently found another shop
> locally I could deal with. This shop told me the guides were in great
shape
> and didn't need to be redone at all so he did the valve job and surfaced
the
> head and the work looks great. I ate the 45.00 on the previous shop but
> they have lost my business.
>
> I had an similar experience with Four Wheel Parts locally (Irvine). I had
> ordered some valve cover gaskets, the thicker cork ones for my aluminum
> valve cover. The guy quoted me 8.00 each for the gaskets. I say, OK as
> that was a good price. First he needs my Credit Card number before he can
> order the gaskets which I didn't want to do but finally did cuz I needed
the
> gaskets. Then I go to pick them up and find there's an additional 3.00
> shipping charge which again, pissed me off. Not only that but the day
> before I had changed plans and didn't need the gaskets and asked them if
it
> would be ok to send them back and the guy says sure, no problem. Well if
> it's ok to send them back then why the he77 does he need my Credit Card
> Number? Anyway, I decided to pick one up anyway (which was when I found
out
> about the 3.00 shipping charge) but I was still pissed.
>
>
> Anyway, the point of these two stories and buyer beware of shady business
> practices.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> "serg" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:IIA_b.1879$Zz7.224@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com ...
> > hi bill! did you install that 4.0 head yet?
> > i have a set of brake lines (2 front, 1 rear) from them sitting in a
box.
> i
> > haven't installed them yet so i can't really comment on the quality once
> > installed. the lines look really well made though, nice finish and
> material.
> > too bad you're down south-sounds like you're doing a lot of the same
stuff
> i
> > am or have done...
> >
> > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > news:c1c3b8$1h0g4c$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Can anyone comment on the quality of Russell Brake lines? Is the
brand
> a
> > > quality product?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
price of 245.00 to surface the head, valve job, and narrow the guides
(Knurling). In addition, the head gasket kit was 85.00 for a grand price of
330.00 plus tax @ 7.75% = ~355.00.
The second shop I took it to charged me 140.00, tax included.
Bill
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1ep72$1hslih$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Hey Serg,
>
> Did you install your MPI kit yet? I just had the 4.0L head reworked and
> inspected. The machine shop did a 3 angle valve job and surfaced the
head.
>
> This was the second shop I took this head to. The first shop was a parts
> store who sent it out of town to have it "looked at" when I first brought
it
> in. The told me the place would inspect it and let me know what it
needed.
> Later they called me and told me it needed a valve job, the head surfaced,
> and work on the valve guides. The wanted to Knurl the guides and the guy
at
> the parts store was telling me that knurling makes the guides even better
> because it allows oil down into the guide for more lubrication. I later
> find out what a load-o-crap that line was. Anyway, I told them hold off
for
> now and I'll bring it back when I have more cash (the estimate they gave
me
> was more than I expected). Turns out when I went to the shop to pick it
up
> there was a 45.00 inspection fee that the parts shop didn't tell me about
> that would be applied to the head work should I have it done. This kinda
> pissed me off because they should have told me about this charge up front
in
> my opinion. Then they told me I had to buy the head gasket kit from them
at
> 80.00 or they couldn't complete the job. It was getting too sticky, too
bad
> a feeling, so I took the head home and just recently found another shop
> locally I could deal with. This shop told me the guides were in great
shape
> and didn't need to be redone at all so he did the valve job and surfaced
the
> head and the work looks great. I ate the 45.00 on the previous shop but
> they have lost my business.
>
> I had an similar experience with Four Wheel Parts locally (Irvine). I had
> ordered some valve cover gaskets, the thicker cork ones for my aluminum
> valve cover. The guy quoted me 8.00 each for the gaskets. I say, OK as
> that was a good price. First he needs my Credit Card number before he can
> order the gaskets which I didn't want to do but finally did cuz I needed
the
> gaskets. Then I go to pick them up and find there's an additional 3.00
> shipping charge which again, pissed me off. Not only that but the day
> before I had changed plans and didn't need the gaskets and asked them if
it
> would be ok to send them back and the guy says sure, no problem. Well if
> it's ok to send them back then why the he77 does he need my Credit Card
> Number? Anyway, I decided to pick one up anyway (which was when I found
out
> about the 3.00 shipping charge) but I was still pissed.
>
>
> Anyway, the point of these two stories and buyer beware of shady business
> practices.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> "serg" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:IIA_b.1879$Zz7.224@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com ...
> > hi bill! did you install that 4.0 head yet?
> > i have a set of brake lines (2 front, 1 rear) from them sitting in a
box.
> i
> > haven't installed them yet so i can't really comment on the quality once
> > installed. the lines look really well made though, nice finish and
> material.
> > too bad you're down south-sounds like you're doing a lot of the same
stuff
> i
> > am or have done...
> >
> > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > news:c1c3b8$1h0g4c$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Can anyone comment on the quality of Russell Brake lines? Is the
brand
> a
> > > quality product?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
02-24-2004, 01:22 AM
#9
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Russell extended brake lines
Ok, I just found the documentation on the 4.0L head. The shop gave me a
price of 245.00 to surface the head, valve job, and narrow the guides
(Knurling). In addition, the head gasket kit was 85.00 for a grand price of
330.00 plus tax @ 7.75% = ~355.00.
The second shop I took it to charged me 140.00, tax included.
Bill
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1ep72$1hslih$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Hey Serg,
>
> Did you install your MPI kit yet? I just had the 4.0L head reworked and
> inspected. The machine shop did a 3 angle valve job and surfaced the
head.
>
> This was the second shop I took this head to. The first shop was a parts
> store who sent it out of town to have it "looked at" when I first brought
it
> in. The told me the place would inspect it and let me know what it
needed.
> Later they called me and told me it needed a valve job, the head surfaced,
> and work on the valve guides. The wanted to Knurl the guides and the guy
at
> the parts store was telling me that knurling makes the guides even better
> because it allows oil down into the guide for more lubrication. I later
> find out what a load-o-crap that line was. Anyway, I told them hold off
for
> now and I'll bring it back when I have more cash (the estimate they gave
me
> was more than I expected). Turns out when I went to the shop to pick it
up
> there was a 45.00 inspection fee that the parts shop didn't tell me about
> that would be applied to the head work should I have it done. This kinda
> pissed me off because they should have told me about this charge up front
in
> my opinion. Then they told me I had to buy the head gasket kit from them
at
> 80.00 or they couldn't complete the job. It was getting too sticky, too
bad
> a feeling, so I took the head home and just recently found another shop
> locally I could deal with. This shop told me the guides were in great
shape
> and didn't need to be redone at all so he did the valve job and surfaced
the
> head and the work looks great. I ate the 45.00 on the previous shop but
> they have lost my business.
>
> I had an similar experience with Four Wheel Parts locally (Irvine). I had
> ordered some valve cover gaskets, the thicker cork ones for my aluminum
> valve cover. The guy quoted me 8.00 each for the gaskets. I say, OK as
> that was a good price. First he needs my Credit Card number before he can
> order the gaskets which I didn't want to do but finally did cuz I needed
the
> gaskets. Then I go to pick them up and find there's an additional 3.00
> shipping charge which again, pissed me off. Not only that but the day
> before I had changed plans and didn't need the gaskets and asked them if
it
> would be ok to send them back and the guy says sure, no problem. Well if
> it's ok to send them back then why the he77 does he need my Credit Card
> Number? Anyway, I decided to pick one up anyway (which was when I found
out
> about the 3.00 shipping charge) but I was still pissed.
>
>
> Anyway, the point of these two stories and buyer beware of shady business
> practices.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> "serg" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:IIA_b.1879$Zz7.224@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com ...
> > hi bill! did you install that 4.0 head yet?
> > i have a set of brake lines (2 front, 1 rear) from them sitting in a
box.
> i
> > haven't installed them yet so i can't really comment on the quality once
> > installed. the lines look really well made though, nice finish and
> material.
> > too bad you're down south-sounds like you're doing a lot of the same
stuff
> i
> > am or have done...
> >
> > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > news:c1c3b8$1h0g4c$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Can anyone comment on the quality of Russell Brake lines? Is the
brand
> a
> > > quality product?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
price of 245.00 to surface the head, valve job, and narrow the guides
(Knurling). In addition, the head gasket kit was 85.00 for a grand price of
330.00 plus tax @ 7.75% = ~355.00.
The second shop I took it to charged me 140.00, tax included.
Bill
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1ep72$1hslih$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Hey Serg,
>
> Did you install your MPI kit yet? I just had the 4.0L head reworked and
> inspected. The machine shop did a 3 angle valve job and surfaced the
head.
>
> This was the second shop I took this head to. The first shop was a parts
> store who sent it out of town to have it "looked at" when I first brought
it
> in. The told me the place would inspect it and let me know what it
needed.
> Later they called me and told me it needed a valve job, the head surfaced,
> and work on the valve guides. The wanted to Knurl the guides and the guy
at
> the parts store was telling me that knurling makes the guides even better
> because it allows oil down into the guide for more lubrication. I later
> find out what a load-o-crap that line was. Anyway, I told them hold off
for
> now and I'll bring it back when I have more cash (the estimate they gave
me
> was more than I expected). Turns out when I went to the shop to pick it
up
> there was a 45.00 inspection fee that the parts shop didn't tell me about
> that would be applied to the head work should I have it done. This kinda
> pissed me off because they should have told me about this charge up front
in
> my opinion. Then they told me I had to buy the head gasket kit from them
at
> 80.00 or they couldn't complete the job. It was getting too sticky, too
bad
> a feeling, so I took the head home and just recently found another shop
> locally I could deal with. This shop told me the guides were in great
shape
> and didn't need to be redone at all so he did the valve job and surfaced
the
> head and the work looks great. I ate the 45.00 on the previous shop but
> they have lost my business.
>
> I had an similar experience with Four Wheel Parts locally (Irvine). I had
> ordered some valve cover gaskets, the thicker cork ones for my aluminum
> valve cover. The guy quoted me 8.00 each for the gaskets. I say, OK as
> that was a good price. First he needs my Credit Card number before he can
> order the gaskets which I didn't want to do but finally did cuz I needed
the
> gaskets. Then I go to pick them up and find there's an additional 3.00
> shipping charge which again, pissed me off. Not only that but the day
> before I had changed plans and didn't need the gaskets and asked them if
it
> would be ok to send them back and the guy says sure, no problem. Well if
> it's ok to send them back then why the he77 does he need my Credit Card
> Number? Anyway, I decided to pick one up anyway (which was when I found
out
> about the 3.00 shipping charge) but I was still pissed.
>
>
> Anyway, the point of these two stories and buyer beware of shady business
> practices.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> "serg" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:IIA_b.1879$Zz7.224@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com ...
> > hi bill! did you install that 4.0 head yet?
> > i have a set of brake lines (2 front, 1 rear) from them sitting in a
box.
> i
> > haven't installed them yet so i can't really comment on the quality once
> > installed. the lines look really well made though, nice finish and
> material.
> > too bad you're down south-sounds like you're doing a lot of the same
stuff
> i
> > am or have done...
> >
> > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > news:c1c3b8$1h0g4c$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Can anyone comment on the quality of Russell Brake lines? Is the
brand
> a
> > > quality product?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
02-24-2004, 01:22 AM
#10
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Russell extended brake lines
Ok, I just found the documentation on the 4.0L head. The shop gave me a
price of 245.00 to surface the head, valve job, and narrow the guides
(Knurling). In addition, the head gasket kit was 85.00 for a grand price of
330.00 plus tax @ 7.75% = ~355.00.
The second shop I took it to charged me 140.00, tax included.
Bill
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1ep72$1hslih$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Hey Serg,
>
> Did you install your MPI kit yet? I just had the 4.0L head reworked and
> inspected. The machine shop did a 3 angle valve job and surfaced the
head.
>
> This was the second shop I took this head to. The first shop was a parts
> store who sent it out of town to have it "looked at" when I first brought
it
> in. The told me the place would inspect it and let me know what it
needed.
> Later they called me and told me it needed a valve job, the head surfaced,
> and work on the valve guides. The wanted to Knurl the guides and the guy
at
> the parts store was telling me that knurling makes the guides even better
> because it allows oil down into the guide for more lubrication. I later
> find out what a load-o-crap that line was. Anyway, I told them hold off
for
> now and I'll bring it back when I have more cash (the estimate they gave
me
> was more than I expected). Turns out when I went to the shop to pick it
up
> there was a 45.00 inspection fee that the parts shop didn't tell me about
> that would be applied to the head work should I have it done. This kinda
> pissed me off because they should have told me about this charge up front
in
> my opinion. Then they told me I had to buy the head gasket kit from them
at
> 80.00 or they couldn't complete the job. It was getting too sticky, too
bad
> a feeling, so I took the head home and just recently found another shop
> locally I could deal with. This shop told me the guides were in great
shape
> and didn't need to be redone at all so he did the valve job and surfaced
the
> head and the work looks great. I ate the 45.00 on the previous shop but
> they have lost my business.
>
> I had an similar experience with Four Wheel Parts locally (Irvine). I had
> ordered some valve cover gaskets, the thicker cork ones for my aluminum
> valve cover. The guy quoted me 8.00 each for the gaskets. I say, OK as
> that was a good price. First he needs my Credit Card number before he can
> order the gaskets which I didn't want to do but finally did cuz I needed
the
> gaskets. Then I go to pick them up and find there's an additional 3.00
> shipping charge which again, pissed me off. Not only that but the day
> before I had changed plans and didn't need the gaskets and asked them if
it
> would be ok to send them back and the guy says sure, no problem. Well if
> it's ok to send them back then why the he77 does he need my Credit Card
> Number? Anyway, I decided to pick one up anyway (which was when I found
out
> about the 3.00 shipping charge) but I was still pissed.
>
>
> Anyway, the point of these two stories and buyer beware of shady business
> practices.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> "serg" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:IIA_b.1879$Zz7.224@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com ...
> > hi bill! did you install that 4.0 head yet?
> > i have a set of brake lines (2 front, 1 rear) from them sitting in a
box.
> i
> > haven't installed them yet so i can't really comment on the quality once
> > installed. the lines look really well made though, nice finish and
> material.
> > too bad you're down south-sounds like you're doing a lot of the same
stuff
> i
> > am or have done...
> >
> > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > news:c1c3b8$1h0g4c$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Can anyone comment on the quality of Russell Brake lines? Is the
brand
> a
> > > quality product?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
price of 245.00 to surface the head, valve job, and narrow the guides
(Knurling). In addition, the head gasket kit was 85.00 for a grand price of
330.00 plus tax @ 7.75% = ~355.00.
The second shop I took it to charged me 140.00, tax included.
Bill
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1ep72$1hslih$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Hey Serg,
>
> Did you install your MPI kit yet? I just had the 4.0L head reworked and
> inspected. The machine shop did a 3 angle valve job and surfaced the
head.
>
> This was the second shop I took this head to. The first shop was a parts
> store who sent it out of town to have it "looked at" when I first brought
it
> in. The told me the place would inspect it and let me know what it
needed.
> Later they called me and told me it needed a valve job, the head surfaced,
> and work on the valve guides. The wanted to Knurl the guides and the guy
at
> the parts store was telling me that knurling makes the guides even better
> because it allows oil down into the guide for more lubrication. I later
> find out what a load-o-crap that line was. Anyway, I told them hold off
for
> now and I'll bring it back when I have more cash (the estimate they gave
me
> was more than I expected). Turns out when I went to the shop to pick it
up
> there was a 45.00 inspection fee that the parts shop didn't tell me about
> that would be applied to the head work should I have it done. This kinda
> pissed me off because they should have told me about this charge up front
in
> my opinion. Then they told me I had to buy the head gasket kit from them
at
> 80.00 or they couldn't complete the job. It was getting too sticky, too
bad
> a feeling, so I took the head home and just recently found another shop
> locally I could deal with. This shop told me the guides were in great
shape
> and didn't need to be redone at all so he did the valve job and surfaced
the
> head and the work looks great. I ate the 45.00 on the previous shop but
> they have lost my business.
>
> I had an similar experience with Four Wheel Parts locally (Irvine). I had
> ordered some valve cover gaskets, the thicker cork ones for my aluminum
> valve cover. The guy quoted me 8.00 each for the gaskets. I say, OK as
> that was a good price. First he needs my Credit Card number before he can
> order the gaskets which I didn't want to do but finally did cuz I needed
the
> gaskets. Then I go to pick them up and find there's an additional 3.00
> shipping charge which again, pissed me off. Not only that but the day
> before I had changed plans and didn't need the gaskets and asked them if
it
> would be ok to send them back and the guy says sure, no problem. Well if
> it's ok to send them back then why the he77 does he need my Credit Card
> Number? Anyway, I decided to pick one up anyway (which was when I found
out
> about the 3.00 shipping charge) but I was still pissed.
>
>
> Anyway, the point of these two stories and buyer beware of shady business
> practices.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> "serg" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:IIA_b.1879$Zz7.224@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com ...
> > hi bill! did you install that 4.0 head yet?
> > i have a set of brake lines (2 front, 1 rear) from them sitting in a
box.
> i
> > haven't installed them yet so i can't really comment on the quality once
> > installed. the lines look really well made though, nice finish and
> material.
> > too bad you're down south-sounds like you're doing a lot of the same
stuff
> i
> > am or have done...
> >
> > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > news:c1c3b8$1h0g4c$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Can anyone comment on the quality of Russell Brake lines? Is the
brand
> a
> > > quality product?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>