Kate

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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: I'm going to sit over here and shut the ---- up.

FOFLMFAO!!!!!

Kate


:
: I've been running front and rear lockers in my Jeep for EVER. I've never
had
: a problem that can be pointed to the lockers, well besides sliding
sideways
: on the banks of my local creek bed where I probably ought not have been
: anyway.
:
: The only hazard I would guard against is the possibility of drivetrain
: damage that results from having too much traction and no wheel-slip.
:
:
:
:
: "Aaron" <aaron.bright@us.army.mil> wrote in message
: news:1152628943.820341.56300@h48g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
: >
: > s m wrote:
: >> I have heard of guys rewiring their rubicons to allow them to use the
: >> lockers in 4HI. I see that you can also buy kits on EBAY that will
: >> allow you to do the same thing. What are he PRO's and CON's of making
: >> this change? Would I be taking the chance of breaking something simply
: >> because the vehicle is not designed to run in this configuration? This
: >> question has probably been asked a 1000 times on this list but if
: >> somebody could give me a link to the information I would really
: >> appreciate it.
: >>
: >>
: >> scott
: >
: > Well first off Scott, I want to start by saying that if you know what
: > you're doing when it comes to wheelin' and/or you live in a climate
: > like I do in Watertown, NY (avg. snowfall for Dec alone = 26in.) then
: > you don't want some factory imposed restriction that keeps their
: > lawsuits down in your Jeep. If you need that extra wheel spin to sling
: > mud out of your "Mud Terrains" than go ahead and make the
: > adjustment you need. The only thing is, you'd be a fool to have them
: > locked up between obstacles; that's when you'll get yourself in
: > trouble. You'd also be a fool to pay for a kit to bypass this factory
: > (lawyer) imposed limitation.
: > There's two ways you can do it. One is safe and costs about $10 and
: > the other is not so safe and I won't even get into it. Here's how
: > ya do it:
: > 1. Buy yourself a good quality switch. I'd recommend an aircraft
: > style toggle switch.
: > You'll be using this switch to "ARM" your lockers. You can write
: > ARM above the switch if you want to look cool.
: > 2. Get to the back of your locker controls switch panel below your air
: > conditioner controls. If you need me to explain how to get there just
: > post a message you want me to and I will, short on time right now.
: > 3. Look at the wiring harness going into the Axle Lock switch and find
: > the red wire with the white stripe and the black wire.
: > 4. Tap the switch you bought into these two wires and mount the new
: > switch in the open space to the right of your Axle Lock switch.
: > 5. Put it all back together and you're done. You'll now be able to
: > switch into locked at 4H, as long as you're under 10 mph. The red
: > w/white wire allows the system to be locked when it's grounded. In
: > the factory setting this wire becomes grounded when you shift into 4L,
: > but now it will also be grounded when you hit your "ARM" switch.
: > Happy Wheelin'
: > -Aaron
: >
:

RoyJ

So all the folks running limited slips rears are in the same catagory?

Earle Horton wrote:

> One "CON" might be an increased likelihood of flipping the vehicle over at
> speed. That pretty much wipes out any "PRO"s I can think of.
>
> Earle
>
> "s m" <user@***.net> wrote in message
> news:iLAsg.116513$Ce1.24359@dukeread01...
>
>>I have heard of guys rewiring their rubicons to allow them to use the
>>lockers in 4HI. I see that you can also buy kits on EBAY that will
>>allow you to do the same thing. What are he PRO's and CON's of making
>>this change? Would I be taking the chance of breaking something simply
>>because the vehicle is not designed to run in this configuration? This
>>question has probably been asked a 1000 times on this list but if
>>somebody could give me a link to the information I would really
>>appreciate it.
>>
>>
>>scott
>
>
>

RoyJ

So all the folks running limited slips rears are in the same catagory?

Earle Horton wrote:

> One "CON" might be an increased likelihood of flipping the vehicle over at
> speed. That pretty much wipes out any "PRO"s I can think of.
>
> Earle
>
> "s m" <user@***.net> wrote in message
> news:iLAsg.116513$Ce1.24359@dukeread01...
>
>>I have heard of guys rewiring their rubicons to allow them to use the
>>lockers in 4HI. I see that you can also buy kits on EBAY that will
>>allow you to do the same thing. What are he PRO's and CON's of making
>>this change? Would I be taking the chance of breaking something simply
>>because the vehicle is not designed to run in this configuration? This
>>question has probably been asked a 1000 times on this list but if
>>somebody could give me a link to the information I would really
>>appreciate it.
>>
>>
>>scott
>
>
>

RoyJ

So all the folks running limited slips rears are in the same catagory?

Earle Horton wrote:

> One "CON" might be an increased likelihood of flipping the vehicle over at
> speed. That pretty much wipes out any "PRO"s I can think of.
>
> Earle
>
> "s m" <user@***.net> wrote in message
> news:iLAsg.116513$Ce1.24359@dukeread01...
>
>>I have heard of guys rewiring their rubicons to allow them to use the
>>lockers in 4HI. I see that you can also buy kits on EBAY that will
>>allow you to do the same thing. What are he PRO's and CON's of making
>>this change? Would I be taking the chance of breaking something simply
>>because the vehicle is not designed to run in this configuration? This
>>question has probably been asked a 1000 times on this list but if
>>somebody could give me a link to the information I would really
>>appreciate it.
>>
>>
>>scott
>
>
>

billy ray

Doesn't your state have the highest death rate in 4WDs in the country?


"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
news:44b668f8$0$23770$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> Apparently you folks don't understand the meaning of "increased
> likelihood"
> as a statistical probablistic term, as I used it. LSDs are dangerous too,
> but the danger is less, and most people who use them understand that. The
> ones who don't, are in the ditch. That does not mean, that everyone who
> has
> an LSD installed, wrecks his car as a result. But the car is inherently
> more dangerous, less easily controlled, after the operation. I wouldn't
> lock up all four wheels in 4HI, unless I was on terrain that really needed
> it, had studied all the alternatives, and knew how to drive in deep mud,
> sand, deep snow or whatever I wanted it for.
>
> Now on the trails near where I live, you probably wouldn't want to run in
> 4HI with axles locked, unless you wanted to die. Or unless you had good
> sense enough to turn it on and off only as needed.
>
> Earle
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:Aestg.7278$PE1.1489@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>> So all the folks running limited slips rears are in the same catagory?
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>> > One "CON" might be an increased likelihood of flipping the vehicle over
> at
>> > speed. That pretty much wipes out any "PRO"s I can think of.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "s m" <user@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:iLAsg.116513$Ce1.24359@dukeread01...
>> >
>> >>I have heard of guys rewiring their rubicons to allow them to use the
>> >>lockers in 4HI. I see that you can also buy kits on EBAY that will
>> >>allow you to do the same thing. What are he PRO's and CON's of making
>> >>this change? Would I be taking the chance of breaking something simply
>> >>because the vehicle is not designed to run in this configuration? This
>> >>question has probably been asked a 1000 times on this list but if
>> >>somebody could give me a link to the information I would really
>> >>appreciate it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>scott
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
>

billy ray

Doesn't your state have the highest death rate in 4WDs in the country?


"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
news:44b668f8$0$23770$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> Apparently you folks don't understand the meaning of "increased
> likelihood"
> as a statistical probablistic term, as I used it. LSDs are dangerous too,
> but the danger is less, and most people who use them understand that. The
> ones who don't, are in the ditch. That does not mean, that everyone who
> has
> an LSD installed, wrecks his car as a result. But the car is inherently
> more dangerous, less easily controlled, after the operation. I wouldn't
> lock up all four wheels in 4HI, unless I was on terrain that really needed
> it, had studied all the alternatives, and knew how to drive in deep mud,
> sand, deep snow or whatever I wanted it for.
>
> Now on the trails near where I live, you probably wouldn't want to run in
> 4HI with axles locked, unless you wanted to die. Or unless you had good
> sense enough to turn it on and off only as needed.
>
> Earle
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:Aestg.7278$PE1.1489@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>> So all the folks running limited slips rears are in the same catagory?
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>> > One "CON" might be an increased likelihood of flipping the vehicle over
> at
>> > speed. That pretty much wipes out any "PRO"s I can think of.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "s m" <user@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:iLAsg.116513$Ce1.24359@dukeread01...
>> >
>> >>I have heard of guys rewiring their rubicons to allow them to use the
>> >>lockers in 4HI. I see that you can also buy kits on EBAY that will
>> >>allow you to do the same thing. What are he PRO's and CON's of making
>> >>this change? Would I be taking the chance of breaking something simply
>> >>because the vehicle is not designed to run in this configuration? This
>> >>question has probably been asked a 1000 times on this list but if
>> >>somebody could give me a link to the information I would really
>> >>appreciate it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>scott
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
>

billy ray

Doesn't your state have the highest death rate in 4WDs in the country?


"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
news:44b668f8$0$23770$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> Apparently you folks don't understand the meaning of "increased
> likelihood"
> as a statistical probablistic term, as I used it. LSDs are dangerous too,
> but the danger is less, and most people who use them understand that. The
> ones who don't, are in the ditch. That does not mean, that everyone who
> has
> an LSD installed, wrecks his car as a result. But the car is inherently
> more dangerous, less easily controlled, after the operation. I wouldn't
> lock up all four wheels in 4HI, unless I was on terrain that really needed
> it, had studied all the alternatives, and knew how to drive in deep mud,
> sand, deep snow or whatever I wanted it for.
>
> Now on the trails near where I live, you probably wouldn't want to run in
> 4HI with axles locked, unless you wanted to die. Or unless you had good
> sense enough to turn it on and off only as needed.
>
> Earle
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:Aestg.7278$PE1.1489@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>> So all the folks running limited slips rears are in the same catagory?
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>> > One "CON" might be an increased likelihood of flipping the vehicle over
> at
>> > speed. That pretty much wipes out any "PRO"s I can think of.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "s m" <user@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:iLAsg.116513$Ce1.24359@dukeread01...
>> >
>> >>I have heard of guys rewiring their rubicons to allow them to use the
>> >>lockers in 4HI. I see that you can also buy kits on EBAY that will
>> >>allow you to do the same thing. What are he PRO's and CON's of making
>> >>this change? Would I be taking the chance of breaking something simply
>> >>because the vehicle is not designed to run in this configuration? This
>> >>question has probably been asked a 1000 times on this list but if
>> >>somebody could give me a link to the information I would really
>> >>appreciate it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>scott
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
>

Earle Horton

Apparently you folks don't understand the meaning of "increased likelihood"
as a statistical probablistic term, as I used it. LSDs are dangerous too,
but the danger is less, and most people who use them understand that. The
ones who don't, are in the ditch. That does not mean, that everyone who has
an LSD installed, wrecks his car as a result. But the car is inherently
more dangerous, less easily controlled, after the operation. I wouldn't
lock up all four wheels in 4HI, unless I was on terrain that really needed
it, had studied all the alternatives, and knew how to drive in deep mud,
sand, deep snow or whatever I wanted it for.

Now on the trails near where I live, you probably wouldn't want to run in
4HI with axles locked, unless you wanted to die. Or unless you had good
sense enough to turn it on and off only as needed.

Earle

"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:Aestg.7278$PE1.1489@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> So all the folks running limited slips rears are in the same catagory?
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > One "CON" might be an increased likelihood of flipping the vehicle over
at
> > speed. That pretty much wipes out any "PRO"s I can think of.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "s m" <user@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:iLAsg.116513$Ce1.24359@dukeread01...
> >
> >>I have heard of guys rewiring their rubicons to allow them to use the
> >>lockers in 4HI. I see that you can also buy kits on EBAY that will
> >>allow you to do the same thing. What are he PRO's and CON's of making
> >>this change? Would I be taking the chance of breaking something simply
> >>because the vehicle is not designed to run in this configuration? This
> >>question has probably been asked a 1000 times on this list but if
> >>somebody could give me a link to the information I would really
> >>appreciate it.
> >>
> >>
> >>scott
> >
> >
> >

Earle Horton

Apparently you folks don't understand the meaning of "increased likelihood"
as a statistical probablistic term, as I used it. LSDs are dangerous too,
but the danger is less, and most people who use them understand that. The
ones who don't, are in the ditch. That does not mean, that everyone who has
an LSD installed, wrecks his car as a result. But the car is inherently
more dangerous, less easily controlled, after the operation. I wouldn't
lock up all four wheels in 4HI, unless I was on terrain that really needed
it, had studied all the alternatives, and knew how to drive in deep mud,
sand, deep snow or whatever I wanted it for.

Now on the trails near where I live, you probably wouldn't want to run in
4HI with axles locked, unless you wanted to die. Or unless you had good
sense enough to turn it on and off only as needed.

Earle

"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:Aestg.7278$PE1.1489@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> So all the folks running limited slips rears are in the same catagory?
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > One "CON" might be an increased likelihood of flipping the vehicle over
at
> > speed. That pretty much wipes out any "PRO"s I can think of.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "s m" <user@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:iLAsg.116513$Ce1.24359@dukeread01...
> >
> >>I have heard of guys rewiring their rubicons to allow them to use the
> >>lockers in 4HI. I see that you can also buy kits on EBAY that will
> >>allow you to do the same thing. What are he PRO's and CON's of making
> >>this change? Would I be taking the chance of breaking something simply
> >>because the vehicle is not designed to run in this configuration? This
> >>question has probably been asked a 1000 times on this list but if
> >>somebody could give me a link to the information I would really
> >>appreciate it.
> >>
> >>
> >>scott
> >
> >
> >

Earle Horton

Apparently you folks don't understand the meaning of "increased likelihood"
as a statistical probablistic term, as I used it. LSDs are dangerous too,
but the danger is less, and most people who use them understand that. The
ones who don't, are in the ditch. That does not mean, that everyone who has
an LSD installed, wrecks his car as a result. But the car is inherently
more dangerous, less easily controlled, after the operation. I wouldn't
lock up all four wheels in 4HI, unless I was on terrain that really needed
it, had studied all the alternatives, and knew how to drive in deep mud,
sand, deep snow or whatever I wanted it for.

Now on the trails near where I live, you probably wouldn't want to run in
4HI with axles locked, unless you wanted to die. Or unless you had good
sense enough to turn it on and off only as needed.

Earle

"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:Aestg.7278$PE1.1489@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> So all the folks running limited slips rears are in the same catagory?
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > One "CON" might be an increased likelihood of flipping the vehicle over
at
> > speed. That pretty much wipes out any "PRO"s I can think of.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "s m" <user@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:iLAsg.116513$Ce1.24359@dukeread01...
> >
> >>I have heard of guys rewiring their rubicons to allow them to use the
> >>lockers in 4HI. I see that you can also buy kits on EBAY that will
> >>allow you to do the same thing. What are he PRO's and CON's of making
> >>this change? Would I be taking the chance of breaking something simply
> >>because the vehicle is not designed to run in this configuration? This
> >>question has probably been asked a 1000 times on this list but if
> >>somebody could give me a link to the information I would really
> >>appreciate it.
> >>
> >>
> >>scott
> >
> >
> >