Rubicon's and thier stock tires?
05-16-2005, 10:23 AM
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Re: Rubicon's and thier stock tires?
On Mon, 16 May 2005 07:42:24 -0400, FrankW <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote:
>Was at the dealership last Friday
>and the Service reperesentative metioned
>that those LT245/75R16E tires are troublesome.
>Any Rubie owners out there that can confirm this?
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
http://www.epinions.com/Goodyear_Wra...splay_~reviews
http://www.4x4wire.com/reviews/gymtr99/testing.htm
They don't ride or wear as well on the highway as the typical AT tires
found on SUVs, and they are noisy in an open vehicle, so I imagine the
sales people get some negative feedback from buyers who don't
understand the compromises of mud tires driven on the street.
I don't recall many brand new trucks equipped with such aggressive
tires. Even the H2, with all its poser macho-ness, comes with BF/G
ATs, which have a much milder tread design. Manufacturers understand
the challenges of NVH (Noise/ Vibration/ Harshness) and usually pick
very quiet tires for their production line. I am impressed with D/C
for offering great off-road tires even though they will displease some
uninformed buyers.
Take that Rubicon through a mud hole and no one will complain about
tire performance. They are fantastic tires on the trail.
If the MT/R characterictics bother you it would be dead easy to sell
them to soemone who can appreciate them ;) The stock 31 inch Rubie
tires make a great upgrade for a Cherokee owner.
John Davies
>Was at the dealership last Friday
>and the Service reperesentative metioned
>that those LT245/75R16E tires are troublesome.
>Any Rubie owners out there that can confirm this?
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
http://www.epinions.com/Goodyear_Wra...splay_~reviews
http://www.4x4wire.com/reviews/gymtr99/testing.htm
They don't ride or wear as well on the highway as the typical AT tires
found on SUVs, and they are noisy in an open vehicle, so I imagine the
sales people get some negative feedback from buyers who don't
understand the compromises of mud tires driven on the street.
I don't recall many brand new trucks equipped with such aggressive
tires. Even the H2, with all its poser macho-ness, comes with BF/G
ATs, which have a much milder tread design. Manufacturers understand
the challenges of NVH (Noise/ Vibration/ Harshness) and usually pick
very quiet tires for their production line. I am impressed with D/C
for offering great off-road tires even though they will displease some
uninformed buyers.
Take that Rubicon through a mud hole and no one will complain about
tire performance. They are fantastic tires on the trail.
If the MT/R characterictics bother you it would be dead easy to sell
them to soemone who can appreciate them ;) The stock 31 inch Rubie
tires make a great upgrade for a Cherokee owner.
John Davies
05-16-2005, 10:23 AM
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Re: Rubicon's and thier stock tires?
On Mon, 16 May 2005 07:42:24 -0400, FrankW <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote:
>Was at the dealership last Friday
>and the Service reperesentative metioned
>that those LT245/75R16E tires are troublesome.
>Any Rubie owners out there that can confirm this?
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
http://www.epinions.com/Goodyear_Wra...splay_~reviews
http://www.4x4wire.com/reviews/gymtr99/testing.htm
They don't ride or wear as well on the highway as the typical AT tires
found on SUVs, and they are noisy in an open vehicle, so I imagine the
sales people get some negative feedback from buyers who don't
understand the compromises of mud tires driven on the street.
I don't recall many brand new trucks equipped with such aggressive
tires. Even the H2, with all its poser macho-ness, comes with BF/G
ATs, which have a much milder tread design. Manufacturers understand
the challenges of NVH (Noise/ Vibration/ Harshness) and usually pick
very quiet tires for their production line. I am impressed with D/C
for offering great off-road tires even though they will displease some
uninformed buyers.
Take that Rubicon through a mud hole and no one will complain about
tire performance. They are fantastic tires on the trail.
If the MT/R characterictics bother you it would be dead easy to sell
them to soemone who can appreciate them ;) The stock 31 inch Rubie
tires make a great upgrade for a Cherokee owner.
John Davies
>Was at the dealership last Friday
>and the Service reperesentative metioned
>that those LT245/75R16E tires are troublesome.
>Any Rubie owners out there that can confirm this?
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
http://www.epinions.com/Goodyear_Wra...splay_~reviews
http://www.4x4wire.com/reviews/gymtr99/testing.htm
They don't ride or wear as well on the highway as the typical AT tires
found on SUVs, and they are noisy in an open vehicle, so I imagine the
sales people get some negative feedback from buyers who don't
understand the compromises of mud tires driven on the street.
I don't recall many brand new trucks equipped with such aggressive
tires. Even the H2, with all its poser macho-ness, comes with BF/G
ATs, which have a much milder tread design. Manufacturers understand
the challenges of NVH (Noise/ Vibration/ Harshness) and usually pick
very quiet tires for their production line. I am impressed with D/C
for offering great off-road tires even though they will displease some
uninformed buyers.
Take that Rubicon through a mud hole and no one will complain about
tire performance. They are fantastic tires on the trail.
If the MT/R characterictics bother you it would be dead easy to sell
them to soemone who can appreciate them ;) The stock 31 inch Rubie
tires make a great upgrade for a Cherokee owner.
John Davies
05-16-2005, 10:23 AM
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Re: Rubicon's and thier stock tires?
On Mon, 16 May 2005 07:42:24 -0400, FrankW <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote:
>Was at the dealership last Friday
>and the Service reperesentative metioned
>that those LT245/75R16E tires are troublesome.
>Any Rubie owners out there that can confirm this?
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
http://www.epinions.com/Goodyear_Wra...splay_~reviews
http://www.4x4wire.com/reviews/gymtr99/testing.htm
They don't ride or wear as well on the highway as the typical AT tires
found on SUVs, and they are noisy in an open vehicle, so I imagine the
sales people get some negative feedback from buyers who don't
understand the compromises of mud tires driven on the street.
I don't recall many brand new trucks equipped with such aggressive
tires. Even the H2, with all its poser macho-ness, comes with BF/G
ATs, which have a much milder tread design. Manufacturers understand
the challenges of NVH (Noise/ Vibration/ Harshness) and usually pick
very quiet tires for their production line. I am impressed with D/C
for offering great off-road tires even though they will displease some
uninformed buyers.
Take that Rubicon through a mud hole and no one will complain about
tire performance. They are fantastic tires on the trail.
If the MT/R characterictics bother you it would be dead easy to sell
them to soemone who can appreciate them ;) The stock 31 inch Rubie
tires make a great upgrade for a Cherokee owner.
John Davies
>Was at the dealership last Friday
>and the Service reperesentative metioned
>that those LT245/75R16E tires are troublesome.
>Any Rubie owners out there that can confirm this?
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
http://www.epinions.com/Goodyear_Wra...splay_~reviews
http://www.4x4wire.com/reviews/gymtr99/testing.htm
They don't ride or wear as well on the highway as the typical AT tires
found on SUVs, and they are noisy in an open vehicle, so I imagine the
sales people get some negative feedback from buyers who don't
understand the compromises of mud tires driven on the street.
I don't recall many brand new trucks equipped with such aggressive
tires. Even the H2, with all its poser macho-ness, comes with BF/G
ATs, which have a much milder tread design. Manufacturers understand
the challenges of NVH (Noise/ Vibration/ Harshness) and usually pick
very quiet tires for their production line. I am impressed with D/C
for offering great off-road tires even though they will displease some
uninformed buyers.
Take that Rubicon through a mud hole and no one will complain about
tire performance. They are fantastic tires on the trail.
If the MT/R characterictics bother you it would be dead easy to sell
them to soemone who can appreciate them ;) The stock 31 inch Rubie
tires make a great upgrade for a Cherokee owner.
John Davies
05-16-2005, 10:31 AM
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Re: Rubicon's and thier stock tires?
I think the mtr's are fine I have learned All tires on wranglers should be
rotated every 3K miles period!! for maximum life.. the front can get out of
round or cupped quickly causing the notorious death wobble... I have bought
many jeeps that I have to put tires on due to the owners Not rotating them.
"John Davies" <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:lhah819ml1el2qbo307vh7ub0nf80dakui@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 16 May 2005 07:42:24 -0400, FrankW <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote:
>
> >Was at the dealership last Friday
> >and the Service reperesentative metioned
> >that those LT245/75R16E tires are troublesome.
> >Any Rubie owners out there that can confirm this?
>
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
>
>
http://www.epinions.com/Goodyear_Wra...isplay_~review
s
>
> http://www.4x4wire.com/reviews/gymtr99/testing.htm
>
> They don't ride or wear as well on the highway as the typical AT tires
> found on SUVs, and they are noisy in an open vehicle, so I imagine the
> sales people get some negative feedback from buyers who don't
> understand the compromises of mud tires driven on the street.
>
> I don't recall many brand new trucks equipped with such aggressive
> tires. Even the H2, with all its poser macho-ness, comes with BF/G
> ATs, which have a much milder tread design. Manufacturers understand
> the challenges of NVH (Noise/ Vibration/ Harshness) and usually pick
> very quiet tires for their production line. I am impressed with D/C
> for offering great off-road tires even though they will displease some
> uninformed buyers.
>
> Take that Rubicon through a mud hole and no one will complain about
> tire performance. They are fantastic tires on the trail.
>
> If the MT/R characterictics bother you it would be dead easy to sell
> them to soemone who can appreciate them ;) The stock 31 inch Rubie
> tires make a great upgrade for a Cherokee owner.
>
> John Davies
rotated every 3K miles period!! for maximum life.. the front can get out of
round or cupped quickly causing the notorious death wobble... I have bought
many jeeps that I have to put tires on due to the owners Not rotating them.
"John Davies" <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:lhah819ml1el2qbo307vh7ub0nf80dakui@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 16 May 2005 07:42:24 -0400, FrankW <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote:
>
> >Was at the dealership last Friday
> >and the Service reperesentative metioned
> >that those LT245/75R16E tires are troublesome.
> >Any Rubie owners out there that can confirm this?
>
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
>
>
http://www.epinions.com/Goodyear_Wra...isplay_~review
s
>
> http://www.4x4wire.com/reviews/gymtr99/testing.htm
>
> They don't ride or wear as well on the highway as the typical AT tires
> found on SUVs, and they are noisy in an open vehicle, so I imagine the
> sales people get some negative feedback from buyers who don't
> understand the compromises of mud tires driven on the street.
>
> I don't recall many brand new trucks equipped with such aggressive
> tires. Even the H2, with all its poser macho-ness, comes with BF/G
> ATs, which have a much milder tread design. Manufacturers understand
> the challenges of NVH (Noise/ Vibration/ Harshness) and usually pick
> very quiet tires for their production line. I am impressed with D/C
> for offering great off-road tires even though they will displease some
> uninformed buyers.
>
> Take that Rubicon through a mud hole and no one will complain about
> tire performance. They are fantastic tires on the trail.
>
> If the MT/R characterictics bother you it would be dead easy to sell
> them to soemone who can appreciate them ;) The stock 31 inch Rubie
> tires make a great upgrade for a Cherokee owner.
>
> John Davies
05-16-2005, 10:31 AM
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Re: Rubicon's and thier stock tires?
I think the mtr's are fine I have learned All tires on wranglers should be
rotated every 3K miles period!! for maximum life.. the front can get out of
round or cupped quickly causing the notorious death wobble... I have bought
many jeeps that I have to put tires on due to the owners Not rotating them.
"John Davies" <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:lhah819ml1el2qbo307vh7ub0nf80dakui@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 16 May 2005 07:42:24 -0400, FrankW <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote:
>
> >Was at the dealership last Friday
> >and the Service reperesentative metioned
> >that those LT245/75R16E tires are troublesome.
> >Any Rubie owners out there that can confirm this?
>
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
>
>
http://www.epinions.com/Goodyear_Wra...isplay_~review
s
>
> http://www.4x4wire.com/reviews/gymtr99/testing.htm
>
> They don't ride or wear as well on the highway as the typical AT tires
> found on SUVs, and they are noisy in an open vehicle, so I imagine the
> sales people get some negative feedback from buyers who don't
> understand the compromises of mud tires driven on the street.
>
> I don't recall many brand new trucks equipped with such aggressive
> tires. Even the H2, with all its poser macho-ness, comes with BF/G
> ATs, which have a much milder tread design. Manufacturers understand
> the challenges of NVH (Noise/ Vibration/ Harshness) and usually pick
> very quiet tires for their production line. I am impressed with D/C
> for offering great off-road tires even though they will displease some
> uninformed buyers.
>
> Take that Rubicon through a mud hole and no one will complain about
> tire performance. They are fantastic tires on the trail.
>
> If the MT/R characterictics bother you it would be dead easy to sell
> them to soemone who can appreciate them ;) The stock 31 inch Rubie
> tires make a great upgrade for a Cherokee owner.
>
> John Davies
rotated every 3K miles period!! for maximum life.. the front can get out of
round or cupped quickly causing the notorious death wobble... I have bought
many jeeps that I have to put tires on due to the owners Not rotating them.
"John Davies" <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:lhah819ml1el2qbo307vh7ub0nf80dakui@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 16 May 2005 07:42:24 -0400, FrankW <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote:
>
> >Was at the dealership last Friday
> >and the Service reperesentative metioned
> >that those LT245/75R16E tires are troublesome.
> >Any Rubie owners out there that can confirm this?
>
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
>
>
http://www.epinions.com/Goodyear_Wra...isplay_~review
s
>
> http://www.4x4wire.com/reviews/gymtr99/testing.htm
>
> They don't ride or wear as well on the highway as the typical AT tires
> found on SUVs, and they are noisy in an open vehicle, so I imagine the
> sales people get some negative feedback from buyers who don't
> understand the compromises of mud tires driven on the street.
>
> I don't recall many brand new trucks equipped with such aggressive
> tires. Even the H2, with all its poser macho-ness, comes with BF/G
> ATs, which have a much milder tread design. Manufacturers understand
> the challenges of NVH (Noise/ Vibration/ Harshness) and usually pick
> very quiet tires for their production line. I am impressed with D/C
> for offering great off-road tires even though they will displease some
> uninformed buyers.
>
> Take that Rubicon through a mud hole and no one will complain about
> tire performance. They are fantastic tires on the trail.
>
> If the MT/R characterictics bother you it would be dead easy to sell
> them to soemone who can appreciate them ;) The stock 31 inch Rubie
> tires make a great upgrade for a Cherokee owner.
>
> John Davies
05-16-2005, 10:31 AM
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Re: Rubicon's and thier stock tires?
I think the mtr's are fine I have learned All tires on wranglers should be
rotated every 3K miles period!! for maximum life.. the front can get out of
round or cupped quickly causing the notorious death wobble... I have bought
many jeeps that I have to put tires on due to the owners Not rotating them.
"John Davies" <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:lhah819ml1el2qbo307vh7ub0nf80dakui@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 16 May 2005 07:42:24 -0400, FrankW <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote:
>
> >Was at the dealership last Friday
> >and the Service reperesentative metioned
> >that those LT245/75R16E tires are troublesome.
> >Any Rubie owners out there that can confirm this?
>
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
>
>
http://www.epinions.com/Goodyear_Wra...isplay_~review
s
>
> http://www.4x4wire.com/reviews/gymtr99/testing.htm
>
> They don't ride or wear as well on the highway as the typical AT tires
> found on SUVs, and they are noisy in an open vehicle, so I imagine the
> sales people get some negative feedback from buyers who don't
> understand the compromises of mud tires driven on the street.
>
> I don't recall many brand new trucks equipped with such aggressive
> tires. Even the H2, with all its poser macho-ness, comes with BF/G
> ATs, which have a much milder tread design. Manufacturers understand
> the challenges of NVH (Noise/ Vibration/ Harshness) and usually pick
> very quiet tires for their production line. I am impressed with D/C
> for offering great off-road tires even though they will displease some
> uninformed buyers.
>
> Take that Rubicon through a mud hole and no one will complain about
> tire performance. They are fantastic tires on the trail.
>
> If the MT/R characterictics bother you it would be dead easy to sell
> them to soemone who can appreciate them ;) The stock 31 inch Rubie
> tires make a great upgrade for a Cherokee owner.
>
> John Davies
rotated every 3K miles period!! for maximum life.. the front can get out of
round or cupped quickly causing the notorious death wobble... I have bought
many jeeps that I have to put tires on due to the owners Not rotating them.
"John Davies" <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:lhah819ml1el2qbo307vh7ub0nf80dakui@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 16 May 2005 07:42:24 -0400, FrankW <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote:
>
> >Was at the dealership last Friday
> >and the Service reperesentative metioned
> >that those LT245/75R16E tires are troublesome.
> >Any Rubie owners out there that can confirm this?
>
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
>
>
http://www.epinions.com/Goodyear_Wra...isplay_~review
s
>
> http://www.4x4wire.com/reviews/gymtr99/testing.htm
>
> They don't ride or wear as well on the highway as the typical AT tires
> found on SUVs, and they are noisy in an open vehicle, so I imagine the
> sales people get some negative feedback from buyers who don't
> understand the compromises of mud tires driven on the street.
>
> I don't recall many brand new trucks equipped with such aggressive
> tires. Even the H2, with all its poser macho-ness, comes with BF/G
> ATs, which have a much milder tread design. Manufacturers understand
> the challenges of NVH (Noise/ Vibration/ Harshness) and usually pick
> very quiet tires for their production line. I am impressed with D/C
> for offering great off-road tires even though they will displease some
> uninformed buyers.
>
> Take that Rubicon through a mud hole and no one will complain about
> tire performance. They are fantastic tires on the trail.
>
> If the MT/R characterictics bother you it would be dead easy to sell
> them to soemone who can appreciate them ;) The stock 31 inch Rubie
> tires make a great upgrade for a Cherokee owner.
>
> John Davies
05-16-2005, 10:31 AM
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Re: Rubicon's and thier stock tires?
I think the mtr's are fine I have learned All tires on wranglers should be
rotated every 3K miles period!! for maximum life.. the front can get out of
round or cupped quickly causing the notorious death wobble... I have bought
many jeeps that I have to put tires on due to the owners Not rotating them.
"John Davies" <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:lhah819ml1el2qbo307vh7ub0nf80dakui@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 16 May 2005 07:42:24 -0400, FrankW <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote:
>
> >Was at the dealership last Friday
> >and the Service reperesentative metioned
> >that those LT245/75R16E tires are troublesome.
> >Any Rubie owners out there that can confirm this?
>
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
>
>
http://www.epinions.com/Goodyear_Wra...isplay_~review
s
>
> http://www.4x4wire.com/reviews/gymtr99/testing.htm
>
> They don't ride or wear as well on the highway as the typical AT tires
> found on SUVs, and they are noisy in an open vehicle, so I imagine the
> sales people get some negative feedback from buyers who don't
> understand the compromises of mud tires driven on the street.
>
> I don't recall many brand new trucks equipped with such aggressive
> tires. Even the H2, with all its poser macho-ness, comes with BF/G
> ATs, which have a much milder tread design. Manufacturers understand
> the challenges of NVH (Noise/ Vibration/ Harshness) and usually pick
> very quiet tires for their production line. I am impressed with D/C
> for offering great off-road tires even though they will displease some
> uninformed buyers.
>
> Take that Rubicon through a mud hole and no one will complain about
> tire performance. They are fantastic tires on the trail.
>
> If the MT/R characterictics bother you it would be dead easy to sell
> them to soemone who can appreciate them ;) The stock 31 inch Rubie
> tires make a great upgrade for a Cherokee owner.
>
> John Davies
rotated every 3K miles period!! for maximum life.. the front can get out of
round or cupped quickly causing the notorious death wobble... I have bought
many jeeps that I have to put tires on due to the owners Not rotating them.
"John Davies" <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:lhah819ml1el2qbo307vh7ub0nf80dakui@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 16 May 2005 07:42:24 -0400, FrankW <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote:
>
> >Was at the dealership last Friday
> >and the Service reperesentative metioned
> >that those LT245/75R16E tires are troublesome.
> >Any Rubie owners out there that can confirm this?
>
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
>
>
http://www.epinions.com/Goodyear_Wra...isplay_~review
s
>
> http://www.4x4wire.com/reviews/gymtr99/testing.htm
>
> They don't ride or wear as well on the highway as the typical AT tires
> found on SUVs, and they are noisy in an open vehicle, so I imagine the
> sales people get some negative feedback from buyers who don't
> understand the compromises of mud tires driven on the street.
>
> I don't recall many brand new trucks equipped with such aggressive
> tires. Even the H2, with all its poser macho-ness, comes with BF/G
> ATs, which have a much milder tread design. Manufacturers understand
> the challenges of NVH (Noise/ Vibration/ Harshness) and usually pick
> very quiet tires for their production line. I am impressed with D/C
> for offering great off-road tires even though they will displease some
> uninformed buyers.
>
> Take that Rubicon through a mud hole and no one will complain about
> tire performance. They are fantastic tires on the trail.
>
> If the MT/R characterictics bother you it would be dead easy to sell
> them to soemone who can appreciate them ;) The stock 31 inch Rubie
> tires make a great upgrade for a Cherokee owner.
>
> John Davies
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