Re: rollover accident
 

...or has never been in the Utah canyons. The locals use
ham radios, but even those don't work worth a darn if you
are at the bottom of a coupla thousand foot canyon and the
nearest help is 50-100 miles away. Cell phones? Hah, there
are no towers anywhere near most of the good trails. A flare
is also useless if there is no one withing several dozen miles
to see it except a coyote. I can think of half a dozen friends
or acquaintances that grew up in that area that are no longer
alive--simply due to heading out by themselves and believing
they were good enough to rescue themselves. A couple of the
bodies weren't found for a couple years, even for guys that
made sure the local Jeep Posse knew exactly where they planned
to be.

Approximately 10/9/03 19:42, Jerry Bransford uttered for posterity:

> P.S. In the areas I wheel in, a cellphone is useless, a flare won't be seen
> by the people that aren't there, and a CB is hit or miss at best. CBs are
> usually only good for a few miles anyway. And if I'm laying in a ditch
> busted up and by myself, I will just consider myself history. Anyone who
> trusts a cellphone to save their ass when offroading somewhere besides the
> mall is terribly naive.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F861841.B8729D7A@sympatico.ca...
>> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>> >
>> > "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
>> > news:Epohb.20737$Rd4.19006@fed1read07...
>> > > Sorry, I have to disagree. Ya, take a cellphone or flaregun or
> whatever,
>> > > but whatever you do, don't live scared.
>> >
>> > I'll agree with the others, Nick.
>> >
>> > Jerry
>>
>>
>> I will have to agree with Jerry!
>>
>> I have flipped my CJ7 twice and both times I was solo with a passenger.
>>
>> One time was a 1 hour walk to the camp we were at that is 25 miles from
>> the nearest house and the other time was a 3 or 4 hour walk, 8 miles in
>> 3' of snow, back to the same camp.
>>
>> Both times, I couldn't expect anyone else on the same trail for 3 or 4
>> months for sure, maybe a snowmobiler might have wandered by in a few
>> days, but....
>>
>> If I had of been injured bad, I would have died.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>


--
My governor can kick your governor's ass

Re: rollover accident
 

...or has never been in the Utah canyons. The locals use
ham radios, but even those don't work worth a darn if you
are at the bottom of a coupla thousand foot canyon and the
nearest help is 50-100 miles away. Cell phones? Hah, there
are no towers anywhere near most of the good trails. A flare
is also useless if there is no one withing several dozen miles
to see it except a coyote. I can think of half a dozen friends
or acquaintances that grew up in that area that are no longer
alive--simply due to heading out by themselves and believing
they were good enough to rescue themselves. A couple of the
bodies weren't found for a couple years, even for guys that
made sure the local Jeep Posse knew exactly where they planned
to be.

Approximately 10/9/03 19:42, Jerry Bransford uttered for posterity:

> P.S. In the areas I wheel in, a cellphone is useless, a flare won't be seen
> by the people that aren't there, and a CB is hit or miss at best. CBs are
> usually only good for a few miles anyway. And if I'm laying in a ditch
> busted up and by myself, I will just consider myself history. Anyone who
> trusts a cellphone to save their ass when offroading somewhere besides the
> mall is terribly naive.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F861841.B8729D7A@sympatico.ca...
>> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>> >
>> > "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
>> > news:Epohb.20737$Rd4.19006@fed1read07...
>> > > Sorry, I have to disagree. Ya, take a cellphone or flaregun or
> whatever,
>> > > but whatever you do, don't live scared.
>> >
>> > I'll agree with the others, Nick.
>> >
>> > Jerry
>>
>>
>> I will have to agree with Jerry!
>>
>> I have flipped my CJ7 twice and both times I was solo with a passenger.
>>
>> One time was a 1 hour walk to the camp we were at that is 25 miles from
>> the nearest house and the other time was a 3 or 4 hour walk, 8 miles in
>> 3' of snow, back to the same camp.
>>
>> Both times, I couldn't expect anyone else on the same trail for 3 or 4
>> months for sure, maybe a snowmobiler might have wandered by in a few
>> days, but....
>>
>> If I had of been injured bad, I would have died.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>


--
My governor can kick your governor's ass

Re: rollover accident
 

Initially what I believe committed Jennifer was the Detroit locker
switched tires and kick it around, it was too late from then on.
And I was kidding Jennifer for bracing her self with the brake
pedal and also telling everyone that you can roll and keep your feet
down, and not be up around the roll bar as my wife was in one of my
rolls, as she was knock out and flopped around like a rag doll, I made
through that five rolls with my foot still one the brake, pushing my
body back in the seat, so I was still in the driving position, but
sideways, and parts of the windshield laying back in my bloody nose.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> OUCH! So, you think what happened here is brake pedal
> overapplication? From the video it looked like the wheels kept
> turning... (I guess the proper thing to have done would have been to
> put the clutch in and let it roll back?)

Re: rollover accident
 

Initially what I believe committed Jennifer was the Detroit locker
switched tires and kick it around, it was too late from then on.
And I was kidding Jennifer for bracing her self with the brake
pedal and also telling everyone that you can roll and keep your feet
down, and not be up around the roll bar as my wife was in one of my
rolls, as she was knock out and flopped around like a rag doll, I made
through that five rolls with my foot still one the brake, pushing my
body back in the seat, so I was still in the driving position, but
sideways, and parts of the windshield laying back in my bloody nose.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> OUCH! So, you think what happened here is brake pedal
> overapplication? From the video it looked like the wheels kept
> turning... (I guess the proper thing to have done would have been to
> put the clutch in and let it roll back?)

Re: rollover accident
 

Initially what I believe committed Jennifer was the Detroit locker
switched tires and kick it around, it was too late from then on.
And I was kidding Jennifer for bracing her self with the brake
pedal and also telling everyone that you can roll and keep your feet
down, and not be up around the roll bar as my wife was in one of my
rolls, as she was knock out and flopped around like a rag doll, I made
through that five rolls with my foot still one the brake, pushing my
body back in the seat, so I was still in the driving position, but
sideways, and parts of the windshield laying back in my bloody nose.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> OUCH! So, you think what happened here is brake pedal
> overapplication? From the video it looked like the wheels kept
> turning... (I guess the proper thing to have done would have been to
> put the clutch in and let it roll back?)

Re: rollover accident
 

A tree? Have you seen a tree in any of my pictures? Let not loose
sight of the buddy system.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Paul Calman wrote:
>
> That depends on the rig and the location. I can chain my Jeepster to a tree
> and winch a much heavier load than the weight of my rig.
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: rollover accident
 

A tree? Have you seen a tree in any of my pictures? Let not loose
sight of the buddy system.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Paul Calman wrote:
>
> That depends on the rig and the location. I can chain my Jeepster to a tree
> and winch a much heavier load than the weight of my rig.
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: rollover accident
 

A tree? Have you seen a tree in any of my pictures? Let not loose
sight of the buddy system.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Paul Calman wrote:
>
> That depends on the rig and the location. I can chain my Jeepster to a tree
> and winch a much heavier load than the weight of my rig.
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: rollover accident
 

I suppose they call it Hathaway Pines for a reason...

In article <3F86EAE5.6E1FC5D9@cox.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@cox.net> writes:

> A tree? Have you seen a tree in any of my pictures? Let not loose
>sight of the buddy system.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Paul Calman wrote:
>>
>> That depends on the rig and the location. I can chain my Jeepster to a tree
>> and winch a much heavier load than the weight of my rig.
>> --
>> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California


* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Re: rollover accident
 

I suppose they call it Hathaway Pines for a reason...

In article <3F86EAE5.6E1FC5D9@cox.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@cox.net> writes:

> A tree? Have you seen a tree in any of my pictures? Let not loose
>sight of the buddy system.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Paul Calman wrote:
>>
>> That depends on the rig and the location. I can chain my Jeepster to a tree
>> and winch a much heavier load than the weight of my rig.
>> --
>> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California


* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html