Re: rollover accident
 

OUCH! So, you think what happened here is brake pedal
overapplication? From the video it looked like the wheels kept
turning... (I guess the proper thing to have done would have been to
put the clutch in and let it roll back?)

> Except for those whom have their foot so firmly locked on the brake
> pedal, nothing will break it loose:
> http://www.----------.com/jenjeeproll.mpg ;-)

Re: rollover accident
 

OUCH! So, you think what happened here is brake pedal
overapplication? From the video it looked like the wheels kept
turning... (I guess the proper thing to have done would have been to
put the clutch in and let it roll back?)

> Except for those whom have their foot so firmly locked on the brake
> pedal, nothing will break it loose:
> http://www.----------.com/jenjeeproll.mpg ;-)

Re: rollover accident
 

OUCH! So, you think what happened here is brake pedal
overapplication? From the video it looked like the wheels kept
turning... (I guess the proper thing to have done would have been to
put the clutch in and let it roll back?)

> Except for those whom have their foot so firmly locked on the brake
> pedal, nothing will break it loose:
> http://www.----------.com/jenjeeproll.mpg ;-)

Re: rollover accident
 

Brakes were on only to pose for the cameras.



On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 00:48:06 GMT, L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote:

>> Except for those whom have their foot so firmly locked on the brake
>>pedal, nothing will break it loose:
>>http://www.----------.com/jenjeeproll.mpg ;-)
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:--------------------
>>jbjeep wrote:
>>>
>>> I think that there is another lesson you are missing: WEAR A SEATBELT.
>>>
>>> "when his Jeep rolled, pinning his left leg under a corner of the windshield and part
>>> of a roll bar"
>>>
>>> Correct me if I am wrong, but I dont see how he could have gotten his leg under the
>>> windsheild and roll bar with a seatbelt on. That is unless he was driving (as some
>>> do) with one leg outside.

Re: rollover accident
 

Brakes were on only to pose for the cameras.



On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 00:48:06 GMT, L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote:

>> Except for those whom have their foot so firmly locked on the brake
>>pedal, nothing will break it loose:
>>http://www.----------.com/jenjeeproll.mpg ;-)
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:--------------------
>>jbjeep wrote:
>>>
>>> I think that there is another lesson you are missing: WEAR A SEATBELT.
>>>
>>> "when his Jeep rolled, pinning his left leg under a corner of the windshield and part
>>> of a roll bar"
>>>
>>> Correct me if I am wrong, but I dont see how he could have gotten his leg under the
>>> windsheild and roll bar with a seatbelt on. That is unless he was driving (as some
>>> do) with one leg outside.

Re: rollover accident
 

Brakes were on only to pose for the cameras.



On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 00:48:06 GMT, L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote:

>> Except for those whom have their foot so firmly locked on the brake
>>pedal, nothing will break it loose:
>>http://www.----------.com/jenjeeproll.mpg ;-)
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:--------------------
>>jbjeep wrote:
>>>
>>> I think that there is another lesson you are missing: WEAR A SEATBELT.
>>>
>>> "when his Jeep rolled, pinning his left leg under a corner of the windshield and part
>>> of a roll bar"
>>>
>>> Correct me if I am wrong, but I dont see how he could have gotten his leg under the
>>> windsheild and roll bar with a seatbelt on. That is unless he was driving (as some
>>> do) with one leg outside.

Re: rollover accident
 

I was trying to...and I was 1/2 a second to late. The first mistake I made was
trying to drive on out, I should have just rolled back when the cameras were
finished.


On 10 Oct 2003 06:46:57 -0700, spam_box@ev1.net (Joshua Nelson) wrote:

>>OUCH! So, you think what happened here is brake pedal
>>overapplication? From the video it looked like the wheels kept
>>turning... (I guess the proper thing to have done would have been to
>>put the clutch in and let it roll back?)
>>
>>> Except for those whom have their foot so firmly locked on the brake
>>> pedal, nothing will break it loose:
>>> http://www.----------.com/jenjeeproll.mpg ;-)

Re: rollover accident
 

I was trying to...and I was 1/2 a second to late. The first mistake I made was
trying to drive on out, I should have just rolled back when the cameras were
finished.


On 10 Oct 2003 06:46:57 -0700, spam_box@ev1.net (Joshua Nelson) wrote:

>>OUCH! So, you think what happened here is brake pedal
>>overapplication? From the video it looked like the wheels kept
>>turning... (I guess the proper thing to have done would have been to
>>put the clutch in and let it roll back?)
>>
>>> Except for those whom have their foot so firmly locked on the brake
>>> pedal, nothing will break it loose:
>>> http://www.----------.com/jenjeeproll.mpg ;-)

Re: rollover accident
 

I was trying to...and I was 1/2 a second to late. The first mistake I made was
trying to drive on out, I should have just rolled back when the cameras were
finished.


On 10 Oct 2003 06:46:57 -0700, spam_box@ev1.net (Joshua Nelson) wrote:

>>OUCH! So, you think what happened here is brake pedal
>>overapplication? From the video it looked like the wheels kept
>>turning... (I guess the proper thing to have done would have been to
>>put the clutch in and let it roll back?)
>>
>>> Except for those whom have their foot so firmly locked on the brake
>>> pedal, nothing will break it loose:
>>> http://www.----------.com/jenjeeproll.mpg ;-)

Re: rollover accident
 

...or has never been in the Utah canyons. The locals use
ham radios, but even those don't work worth a darn if you
are at the bottom of a coupla thousand foot canyon and the
nearest help is 50-100 miles away. Cell phones? Hah, there
are no towers anywhere near most of the good trails. A flare
is also useless if there is no one withing several dozen miles
to see it except a coyote. I can think of half a dozen friends
or acquaintances that grew up in that area that are no longer
alive--simply due to heading out by themselves and believing
they were good enough to rescue themselves. A couple of the
bodies weren't found for a couple years, even for guys that
made sure the local Jeep Posse knew exactly where they planned
to be.

Approximately 10/9/03 19:42, Jerry Bransford uttered for posterity:

> P.S. In the areas I wheel in, a cellphone is useless, a flare won't be seen
> by the people that aren't there, and a CB is hit or miss at best. CBs are
> usually only good for a few miles anyway. And if I'm laying in a ditch
> busted up and by myself, I will just consider myself history. Anyone who
> trusts a cellphone to save their ass when offroading somewhere besides the
> mall is terribly naive.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F861841.B8729D7A@sympatico.ca...
>> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>> >
>> > "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
>> > news:Epohb.20737$Rd4.19006@fed1read07...
>> > > Sorry, I have to disagree. Ya, take a cellphone or flaregun or
> whatever,
>> > > but whatever you do, don't live scared.
>> >
>> > I'll agree with the others, Nick.
>> >
>> > Jerry
>>
>>
>> I will have to agree with Jerry!
>>
>> I have flipped my CJ7 twice and both times I was solo with a passenger.
>>
>> One time was a 1 hour walk to the camp we were at that is 25 miles from
>> the nearest house and the other time was a 3 or 4 hour walk, 8 miles in
>> 3' of snow, back to the same camp.
>>
>> Both times, I couldn't expect anyone else on the same trail for 3 or 4
>> months for sure, maybe a snowmobiler might have wandered by in a few
>> days, but....
>>
>> If I had of been injured bad, I would have died.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>


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