Rim + tire Question
#61
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Re: Rim + tire Question
jeff wrote:
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> You do 'not' want spacers!
>>
> Why?
> Assuming a good quality steel spacer, what would be the reason for not
> using them? The cantilevered load on the axle flange will be identical
> to a wheel with an equivalently lower back spacing. The weight of the
> spacers is dwarfed by the increased tire weight. The spacer and studs
> should be every bit as strong, if not stronger than the flange they are
> mounted to (they are thicker).
>
I do not believe the stresses are the same. The backing of a dish being
in the load bearing plane is the design. With a spacer you are going
outside this plane right at the high stress point. Big tires cause
enough extra wear as it is...
Then there is the cumulative affects of vibrations and hits and 'quality
control' issues which I wouldn't want to bet my life on if the sucker
does shear.
From what I have seen a 'good' spacer costs more than a replacement rim...
The more the tires stick out the more wear, no matter which way you go.
Thankfully the OP shouldn't have to worry with the size he wants to use.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
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> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> You do 'not' want spacers!
>>
> Why?
> Assuming a good quality steel spacer, what would be the reason for not
> using them? The cantilevered load on the axle flange will be identical
> to a wheel with an equivalently lower back spacing. The weight of the
> spacers is dwarfed by the increased tire weight. The spacer and studs
> should be every bit as strong, if not stronger than the flange they are
> mounted to (they are thicker).
>
I do not believe the stresses are the same. The backing of a dish being
in the load bearing plane is the design. With a spacer you are going
outside this plane right at the high stress point. Big tires cause
enough extra wear as it is...
Then there is the cumulative affects of vibrations and hits and 'quality
control' issues which I wouldn't want to bet my life on if the sucker
does shear.
From what I have seen a 'good' spacer costs more than a replacement rim...
The more the tires stick out the more wear, no matter which way you go.
Thankfully the OP shouldn't have to worry with the size he wants to use.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
#62
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Re: Rim + tire Question
Aside of them being illegal to use on a drag strip. I had a picture of
an XJ with a broken spacer on the rear axle, but deleted it when I realized
it had nothing to do with my Dana 35c Documentation:
http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ I have Googled many times since with the
same search words, "Jeep broken axle" to no avail. I'm guessing the
manufacturer is vigilant in removing them.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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"jeff" <jalowe44.invalid@hotmail.net.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> Why?
> Assuming a good quality steel spacer, what would be the reason for not
> using them? The cantilevered load on the axle flange will be identical
> to a wheel with an equivalently lower back spacing. The weight of the
> spacers is dwarfed by the increased tire weight. The spacer and studs
> should be every bit as strong, if not stronger than the flange they are
> mounted to (they are thicker).
>
> --
> jeff
>
--
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an XJ with a broken spacer on the rear axle, but deleted it when I realized
it had nothing to do with my Dana 35c Documentation:
http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ I have Googled many times since with the
same search words, "Jeep broken axle" to no avail. I'm guessing the
manufacturer is vigilant in removing them.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"jeff" <jalowe44.invalid@hotmail.net.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> Why?
> Assuming a good quality steel spacer, what would be the reason for not
> using them? The cantilevered load on the axle flange will be identical
> to a wheel with an equivalently lower back spacing. The weight of the
> spacers is dwarfed by the increased tire weight. The spacer and studs
> should be every bit as strong, if not stronger than the flange they are
> mounted to (they are thicker).
>
> --
> jeff
>
--
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#63
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Re: Rim + tire Question
Aside of them being illegal to use on a drag strip. I had a picture of
an XJ with a broken spacer on the rear axle, but deleted it when I realized
it had nothing to do with my Dana 35c Documentation:
http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ I have Googled many times since with the
same search words, "Jeep broken axle" to no avail. I'm guessing the
manufacturer is vigilant in removing them.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"jeff" <jalowe44.invalid@hotmail.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:470a661f$0$13885$afc38c87@...
>
> Why?
> Assuming a good quality steel spacer, what would be the reason for not
> using them? The cantilevered load on the axle flange will be identical
> to a wheel with an equivalently lower back spacing. The weight of the
> spacers is dwarfed by the increased tire weight. The spacer and studs
> should be every bit as strong, if not stronger than the flange they are
> mounted to (they are thicker).
>
> --
> jeff
>
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
an XJ with a broken spacer on the rear axle, but deleted it when I realized
it had nothing to do with my Dana 35c Documentation:
http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ I have Googled many times since with the
same search words, "Jeep broken axle" to no avail. I'm guessing the
manufacturer is vigilant in removing them.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"jeff" <jalowe44.invalid@hotmail.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:470a661f$0$13885$afc38c87@...
>
> Why?
> Assuming a good quality steel spacer, what would be the reason for not
> using them? The cantilevered load on the axle flange will be identical
> to a wheel with an equivalently lower back spacing. The weight of the
> spacers is dwarfed by the increased tire weight. The spacer and studs
> should be every bit as strong, if not stronger than the flange they are
> mounted to (they are thicker).
>
> --
> jeff
>
--
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#64
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Re: Rim + tire Question
Aside of them being illegal to use on a drag strip. I had a picture of
an XJ with a broken spacer on the rear axle, but deleted it when I realized
it had nothing to do with my Dana 35c Documentation:
http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ I have Googled many times since with the
same search words, "Jeep broken axle" to no avail. I'm guessing the
manufacturer is vigilant in removing them.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"jeff" <jalowe44.invalid@hotmail.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:470a661f$0$13885$afc38c87@...
>
> Why?
> Assuming a good quality steel spacer, what would be the reason for not
> using them? The cantilevered load on the axle flange will be identical
> to a wheel with an equivalently lower back spacing. The weight of the
> spacers is dwarfed by the increased tire weight. The spacer and studs
> should be every bit as strong, if not stronger than the flange they are
> mounted to (they are thicker).
>
> --
> jeff
>
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
an XJ with a broken spacer on the rear axle, but deleted it when I realized
it had nothing to do with my Dana 35c Documentation:
http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ I have Googled many times since with the
same search words, "Jeep broken axle" to no avail. I'm guessing the
manufacturer is vigilant in removing them.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"jeff" <jalowe44.invalid@hotmail.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:470a661f$0$13885$afc38c87@...
>
> Why?
> Assuming a good quality steel spacer, what would be the reason for not
> using them? The cantilevered load on the axle flange will be identical
> to a wheel with an equivalently lower back spacing. The weight of the
> spacers is dwarfed by the increased tire weight. The spacer and studs
> should be every bit as strong, if not stronger than the flange they are
> mounted to (they are thicker).
>
> --
> jeff
>
--
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#65
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Re: Rim + tire Question
Aside of them being illegal to use on a drag strip. I had a picture of
an XJ with a broken spacer on the rear axle, but deleted it when I realized
it had nothing to do with my Dana 35c Documentation:
http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ I have Googled many times since with the
same search words, "Jeep broken axle" to no avail. I'm guessing the
manufacturer is vigilant in removing them.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"jeff" <jalowe44.invalid@hotmail.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:470a661f$0$13885$afc38c87@...
>
> Why?
> Assuming a good quality steel spacer, what would be the reason for not
> using them? The cantilevered load on the axle flange will be identical
> to a wheel with an equivalently lower back spacing. The weight of the
> spacers is dwarfed by the increased tire weight. The spacer and studs
> should be every bit as strong, if not stronger than the flange they are
> mounted to (they are thicker).
>
> --
> jeff
>
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
an XJ with a broken spacer on the rear axle, but deleted it when I realized
it had nothing to do with my Dana 35c Documentation:
http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ I have Googled many times since with the
same search words, "Jeep broken axle" to no avail. I'm guessing the
manufacturer is vigilant in removing them.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"jeff" <jalowe44.invalid@hotmail.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:470a661f$0$13885$afc38c87@...
>
> Why?
> Assuming a good quality steel spacer, what would be the reason for not
> using them? The cantilevered load on the axle flange will be identical
> to a wheel with an equivalently lower back spacing. The weight of the
> spacers is dwarfed by the increased tire weight. The spacer and studs
> should be every bit as strong, if not stronger than the flange they are
> mounted to (they are thicker).
>
> --
> jeff
>
--
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