Rim + tire Question
10-05-2007, 05:53 PM
#51
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Re: Rim + tire Question
Jamie Mello wrote:
> Thanks for the info.I know they sell spacers for the wheels will that
> work?? This is my first time I ever put bigger tires on any of my
> trucks. That is why I guess you can say I am sort of clueless on
> bigger tires and stuff. Thanks Jamie
>
I thought you were informed that you 'can' run 33's on those Moab rims?
You 'were' informed or are being informed now for sure.
The poster(s) stated that 33x12.5's will fit with a steering stop
adjustment only needed and a 33x10.5 will fit with no issues... as long
as you have a lift.
You do 'not' want spacers!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
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> Thanks for the info.I know they sell spacers for the wheels will that
> work?? This is my first time I ever put bigger tires on any of my
> trucks. That is why I guess you can say I am sort of clueless on
> bigger tires and stuff. Thanks Jamie
>
I thought you were informed that you 'can' run 33's on those Moab rims?
You 'were' informed or are being informed now for sure.
The poster(s) stated that 33x12.5's will fit with a steering stop
adjustment only needed and a 33x10.5 will fit with no issues... as long
as you have a lift.
You do 'not' want spacers!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
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10-05-2007, 05:53 PM
#52
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Re: Rim + tire Question
Jamie Mello wrote:
> Thanks for the info.I know they sell spacers for the wheels will that
> work?? This is my first time I ever put bigger tires on any of my
> trucks. That is why I guess you can say I am sort of clueless on
> bigger tires and stuff. Thanks Jamie
>
I thought you were informed that you 'can' run 33's on those Moab rims?
You 'were' informed or are being informed now for sure.
The poster(s) stated that 33x12.5's will fit with a steering stop
adjustment only needed and a 33x10.5 will fit with no issues... as long
as you have a lift.
You do 'not' want spacers!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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> Thanks for the info.I know they sell spacers for the wheels will that
> work?? This is my first time I ever put bigger tires on any of my
> trucks. That is why I guess you can say I am sort of clueless on
> bigger tires and stuff. Thanks Jamie
>
I thought you were informed that you 'can' run 33's on those Moab rims?
You 'were' informed or are being informed now for sure.
The poster(s) stated that 33x12.5's will fit with a steering stop
adjustment only needed and a 33x10.5 will fit with no issues... as long
as you have a lift.
You do 'not' want spacers!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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10-05-2007, 05:53 PM
#53
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Re: Rim + tire Question
Jamie Mello wrote:
> Thanks for the info.I know they sell spacers for the wheels will that
> work?? This is my first time I ever put bigger tires on any of my
> trucks. That is why I guess you can say I am sort of clueless on
> bigger tires and stuff. Thanks Jamie
>
I thought you were informed that you 'can' run 33's on those Moab rims?
You 'were' informed or are being informed now for sure.
The poster(s) stated that 33x12.5's will fit with a steering stop
adjustment only needed and a 33x10.5 will fit with no issues... as long
as you have a lift.
You do 'not' want spacers!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> Thanks for the info.I know they sell spacers for the wheels will that
> work?? This is my first time I ever put bigger tires on any of my
> trucks. That is why I guess you can say I am sort of clueless on
> bigger tires and stuff. Thanks Jamie
>
I thought you were informed that you 'can' run 33's on those Moab rims?
You 'were' informed or are being informed now for sure.
The poster(s) stated that 33x12.5's will fit with a steering stop
adjustment only needed and a 33x10.5 will fit with no issues... as long
as you have a lift.
You do 'not' want spacers!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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10-05-2007, 08:02 PM
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Re: Rim + tire Question
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Jamie Mello wrote:
>> Thanks for the info.I know they sell spacers for the wheels will that
>> work?? This is my first time I ever put bigger tires on any of my
>> trucks. That is why I guess you can say I am sort of clueless on
>> bigger tires and stuff. Thanks Jamie
>>
>
> I thought you were informed that you 'can' run 33's on those Moab rims?
>
> You 'were' informed or are being informed now for sure.
>
> The poster(s) stated that 33x12.5's will fit with a steering stop
> adjustment only needed and a 33x10.5 will fit with no issues... as long as
> you have a lift.
The rear spring upper perches will contact the 33x12.5 tires with stock
wheels. I would trim them back an inch or two before adding wheel spacers.
The perches are quite a bit larger in diameter than the springs and there is
plenty of room to trim them without affecting the springs' contact.
>
> You do 'not' want spacers!
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
10-05-2007, 08:02 PM
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Re: Rim + tire Question
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Jamie Mello wrote:
>> Thanks for the info.I know they sell spacers for the wheels will that
>> work?? This is my first time I ever put bigger tires on any of my
>> trucks. That is why I guess you can say I am sort of clueless on
>> bigger tires and stuff. Thanks Jamie
>>
>
> I thought you were informed that you 'can' run 33's on those Moab rims?
>
> You 'were' informed or are being informed now for sure.
>
> The poster(s) stated that 33x12.5's will fit with a steering stop
> adjustment only needed and a 33x10.5 will fit with no issues... as long as
> you have a lift.
The rear spring upper perches will contact the 33x12.5 tires with stock
wheels. I would trim them back an inch or two before adding wheel spacers.
The perches are quite a bit larger in diameter than the springs and there is
plenty of room to trim them without affecting the springs' contact.
>
> You do 'not' want spacers!
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
10-05-2007, 08:02 PM
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Re: Rim + tire Question
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Jamie Mello wrote:
>> Thanks for the info.I know they sell spacers for the wheels will that
>> work?? This is my first time I ever put bigger tires on any of my
>> trucks. That is why I guess you can say I am sort of clueless on
>> bigger tires and stuff. Thanks Jamie
>>
>
> I thought you were informed that you 'can' run 33's on those Moab rims?
>
> You 'were' informed or are being informed now for sure.
>
> The poster(s) stated that 33x12.5's will fit with a steering stop
> adjustment only needed and a 33x10.5 will fit with no issues... as long as
> you have a lift.
The rear spring upper perches will contact the 33x12.5 tires with stock
wheels. I would trim them back an inch or two before adding wheel spacers.
The perches are quite a bit larger in diameter than the springs and there is
plenty of room to trim them without affecting the springs' contact.
>
> You do 'not' want spacers!
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
10-05-2007, 08:02 PM
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Re: Rim + tire Question
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Jamie Mello wrote:
>> Thanks for the info.I know they sell spacers for the wheels will that
>> work?? This is my first time I ever put bigger tires on any of my
>> trucks. That is why I guess you can say I am sort of clueless on
>> bigger tires and stuff. Thanks Jamie
>>
>
> I thought you were informed that you 'can' run 33's on those Moab rims?
>
> You 'were' informed or are being informed now for sure.
>
> The poster(s) stated that 33x12.5's will fit with a steering stop
> adjustment only needed and a 33x10.5 will fit with no issues... as long as
> you have a lift.
The rear spring upper perches will contact the 33x12.5 tires with stock
wheels. I would trim them back an inch or two before adding wheel spacers.
The perches are quite a bit larger in diameter than the springs and there is
plenty of room to trim them without affecting the springs' contact.
>
> You do 'not' want spacers!
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
10-08-2007, 01:55 PM
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Re: Rim + tire Question
jeff wrote:
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> You do 'not' want spacers!
>>
> Why?
> Assuming a good quality steel spacer, what would be the reason for not
> using them? The cantilevered load on the axle flange will be identical
> to a wheel with an equivalently lower back spacing. The weight of the
> spacers is dwarfed by the increased tire weight. The spacer and studs
> should be every bit as strong, if not stronger than the flange they are
> mounted to (they are thicker).
>
I do not believe the stresses are the same. The backing of a dish being
in the load bearing plane is the design. With a spacer you are going
outside this plane right at the high stress point. Big tires cause
enough extra wear as it is...
Then there is the cumulative affects of vibrations and hits and 'quality
control' issues which I wouldn't want to bet my life on if the sucker
does shear.
From what I have seen a 'good' spacer costs more than a replacement rim...
The more the tires stick out the more wear, no matter which way you go.
Thankfully the OP shouldn't have to worry with the size he wants to use.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> You do 'not' want spacers!
>>
> Why?
> Assuming a good quality steel spacer, what would be the reason for not
> using them? The cantilevered load on the axle flange will be identical
> to a wheel with an equivalently lower back spacing. The weight of the
> spacers is dwarfed by the increased tire weight. The spacer and studs
> should be every bit as strong, if not stronger than the flange they are
> mounted to (they are thicker).
>
I do not believe the stresses are the same. The backing of a dish being
in the load bearing plane is the design. With a spacer you are going
outside this plane right at the high stress point. Big tires cause
enough extra wear as it is...
Then there is the cumulative affects of vibrations and hits and 'quality
control' issues which I wouldn't want to bet my life on if the sucker
does shear.
From what I have seen a 'good' spacer costs more than a replacement rim...
The more the tires stick out the more wear, no matter which way you go.
Thankfully the OP shouldn't have to worry with the size he wants to use.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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10-08-2007, 01:55 PM
#59
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Re: Rim + tire Question
jeff wrote:
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> You do 'not' want spacers!
>>
> Why?
> Assuming a good quality steel spacer, what would be the reason for not
> using them? The cantilevered load on the axle flange will be identical
> to a wheel with an equivalently lower back spacing. The weight of the
> spacers is dwarfed by the increased tire weight. The spacer and studs
> should be every bit as strong, if not stronger than the flange they are
> mounted to (they are thicker).
>
I do not believe the stresses are the same. The backing of a dish being
in the load bearing plane is the design. With a spacer you are going
outside this plane right at the high stress point. Big tires cause
enough extra wear as it is...
Then there is the cumulative affects of vibrations and hits and 'quality
control' issues which I wouldn't want to bet my life on if the sucker
does shear.
From what I have seen a 'good' spacer costs more than a replacement rim...
The more the tires stick out the more wear, no matter which way you go.
Thankfully the OP shouldn't have to worry with the size he wants to use.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> You do 'not' want spacers!
>>
> Why?
> Assuming a good quality steel spacer, what would be the reason for not
> using them? The cantilevered load on the axle flange will be identical
> to a wheel with an equivalently lower back spacing. The weight of the
> spacers is dwarfed by the increased tire weight. The spacer and studs
> should be every bit as strong, if not stronger than the flange they are
> mounted to (they are thicker).
>
I do not believe the stresses are the same. The backing of a dish being
in the load bearing plane is the design. With a spacer you are going
outside this plane right at the high stress point. Big tires cause
enough extra wear as it is...
Then there is the cumulative affects of vibrations and hits and 'quality
control' issues which I wouldn't want to bet my life on if the sucker
does shear.
From what I have seen a 'good' spacer costs more than a replacement rim...
The more the tires stick out the more wear, no matter which way you go.
Thankfully the OP shouldn't have to worry with the size he wants to use.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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10-08-2007, 01:55 PM
#60
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Re: Rim + tire Question
jeff wrote:
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> You do 'not' want spacers!
>>
> Why?
> Assuming a good quality steel spacer, what would be the reason for not
> using them? The cantilevered load on the axle flange will be identical
> to a wheel with an equivalently lower back spacing. The weight of the
> spacers is dwarfed by the increased tire weight. The spacer and studs
> should be every bit as strong, if not stronger than the flange they are
> mounted to (they are thicker).
>
I do not believe the stresses are the same. The backing of a dish being
in the load bearing plane is the design. With a spacer you are going
outside this plane right at the high stress point. Big tires cause
enough extra wear as it is...
Then there is the cumulative affects of vibrations and hits and 'quality
control' issues which I wouldn't want to bet my life on if the sucker
does shear.
From what I have seen a 'good' spacer costs more than a replacement rim...
The more the tires stick out the more wear, no matter which way you go.
Thankfully the OP shouldn't have to worry with the size he wants to use.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> You do 'not' want spacers!
>>
> Why?
> Assuming a good quality steel spacer, what would be the reason for not
> using them? The cantilevered load on the axle flange will be identical
> to a wheel with an equivalently lower back spacing. The weight of the
> spacers is dwarfed by the increased tire weight. The spacer and studs
> should be every bit as strong, if not stronger than the flange they are
> mounted to (they are thicker).
>
I do not believe the stresses are the same. The backing of a dish being
in the load bearing plane is the design. With a spacer you are going
outside this plane right at the high stress point. Big tires cause
enough extra wear as it is...
Then there is the cumulative affects of vibrations and hits and 'quality
control' issues which I wouldn't want to bet my life on if the sucker
does shear.
From what I have seen a 'good' spacer costs more than a replacement rim...
The more the tires stick out the more wear, no matter which way you go.
Thankfully the OP shouldn't have to worry with the size he wants to use.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)