Rim diameter question
02-09-2004, 05:59 PM
#11
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rim diameter question
I don't think the Rubi gets larger brakes than the other TJ models though.
It gets discs on all four corners, but they are the same discs that the
other TJs get.
"Carlo" <carlo.jr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Pc2dnU1CM6c6ZrrdRVn-uA@comcast.com...
> I would consider using 16" wheels if needed to provide clearance for
larger
> calipers - don't know if that has anything to do with the reason the rubi
> has them....
>
> --
> Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
> carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
> '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
> O|||||||O
> '92 Explorer '65 Mustang
>
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:102fjd79t1kas19@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "Patrick Mills" <plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > news:pan.2004.02.09.10.50.33.915880@ix.netcom.com. ..
> > > I'm trying to learn about the pros and cons of 15" vs. 16" tire rims -
> > > especially with respect to onroad vs. offroad use
> > >
> > > Research so far appears to reveal the following general
beliefs/"facts":
> > >
> > > 1) All else equal, 15" rims may be better offroad due to higher tire
> > > sidewall (increased flex)
> > >
> >
> > Correct. The sidewalls - and more accurately, the shoulder of the
tread -
> is
> > a very important traction aid when the tires are aired-down. But, when
the
> > tires are aired down, the rim can be exposed to more damage if the
> sidewalls
> > are smaller.
> >
> >
> >
> > > 2) 16" rims may be better onroad, due to less tire sidewall (decreased
> > > flex)
> > >
> >
> > Again, correct. The smaller sidewalls have less flex, therefore they
> provide
> > a more sure footed driving experience on the highway.
> >
> >
> >
> > > 3) 16" rims fit only metric-sized tires (? is this correct?), but such
> > > tires tend to cost more (? again, is this true?)
> > >
> >
> > I have to do some research on this one, but my knee-jerk response is
that
> > you are wrong on this point. The metric size that comes on the Rubi can
be
> > translated into a 31x9.50 or 31x10.50 (I forget which). But, I am almost
> 99%
> > positive that you can get a 32" ~ 35" on a 16" rim.
> >
> >
> >
> > > 4) Despite "fact" #1, 16" rims are preferred for rock crawling (if
true,
> > > why?)
> > >
> >
> > I am not sure this is true. Given the explanation that I used, I would
> lean
> > towards the 15" as the better choice. I happen to think that the Rubi
has
> > other features that make the 16" tires an "acceptable risk."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > 5) Internationally, 16" rims are more "standard" and tires to fit them
> are
> > > more readily available
> > >
> >
> > I don't think this is true at all. 15" rims have been around for
decades,
> > 16" is a relatively new option.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > 6) Generally speaking, 16" tires may be used more widely by SUV
> > > manufacturers who realize the primary use of such vehicles is onroad
(?
> if
> > > true, why would Jeep choose 16" tires as the standard rim size for the
> > > Rubicon, unless "fact" #4 is actually true?)
> > >
> >
> > This is a good question, one that I have asked myself. I think that in
the
> > grand scheme of things, the manufacturer has to be concerned with
> liability
> > issues relative to tall tires. I suppose they can mitigate some of those
> > issues with a larger rim. I really don't think the manufacturers set out
> to
> > build the extreme rock crawlers that we so enjoy. They look at what we
do,
> > and try to blend the needs of highway safety with the desire for extreme
> > offroading, and the 16" tires on the Rubi are a happy medium where these
> two
> > worlds meet.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
It gets discs on all four corners, but they are the same discs that the
other TJs get.
"Carlo" <carlo.jr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Pc2dnU1CM6c6ZrrdRVn-uA@comcast.com...
> I would consider using 16" wheels if needed to provide clearance for
larger
> calipers - don't know if that has anything to do with the reason the rubi
> has them....
>
> --
> Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
> carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
> '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
> O|||||||O
> '92 Explorer '65 Mustang
>
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:102fjd79t1kas19@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "Patrick Mills" <plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > news:pan.2004.02.09.10.50.33.915880@ix.netcom.com. ..
> > > I'm trying to learn about the pros and cons of 15" vs. 16" tire rims -
> > > especially with respect to onroad vs. offroad use
> > >
> > > Research so far appears to reveal the following general
beliefs/"facts":
> > >
> > > 1) All else equal, 15" rims may be better offroad due to higher tire
> > > sidewall (increased flex)
> > >
> >
> > Correct. The sidewalls - and more accurately, the shoulder of the
tread -
> is
> > a very important traction aid when the tires are aired-down. But, when
the
> > tires are aired down, the rim can be exposed to more damage if the
> sidewalls
> > are smaller.
> >
> >
> >
> > > 2) 16" rims may be better onroad, due to less tire sidewall (decreased
> > > flex)
> > >
> >
> > Again, correct. The smaller sidewalls have less flex, therefore they
> provide
> > a more sure footed driving experience on the highway.
> >
> >
> >
> > > 3) 16" rims fit only metric-sized tires (? is this correct?), but such
> > > tires tend to cost more (? again, is this true?)
> > >
> >
> > I have to do some research on this one, but my knee-jerk response is
that
> > you are wrong on this point. The metric size that comes on the Rubi can
be
> > translated into a 31x9.50 or 31x10.50 (I forget which). But, I am almost
> 99%
> > positive that you can get a 32" ~ 35" on a 16" rim.
> >
> >
> >
> > > 4) Despite "fact" #1, 16" rims are preferred for rock crawling (if
true,
> > > why?)
> > >
> >
> > I am not sure this is true. Given the explanation that I used, I would
> lean
> > towards the 15" as the better choice. I happen to think that the Rubi
has
> > other features that make the 16" tires an "acceptable risk."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > 5) Internationally, 16" rims are more "standard" and tires to fit them
> are
> > > more readily available
> > >
> >
> > I don't think this is true at all. 15" rims have been around for
decades,
> > 16" is a relatively new option.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > 6) Generally speaking, 16" tires may be used more widely by SUV
> > > manufacturers who realize the primary use of such vehicles is onroad
(?
> if
> > > true, why would Jeep choose 16" tires as the standard rim size for the
> > > Rubicon, unless "fact" #4 is actually true?)
> > >
> >
> > This is a good question, one that I have asked myself. I think that in
the
> > grand scheme of things, the manufacturer has to be concerned with
> liability
> > issues relative to tall tires. I suppose they can mitigate some of those
> > issues with a larger rim. I really don't think the manufacturers set out
> to
> > build the extreme rock crawlers that we so enjoy. They look at what we
do,
> > and try to blend the needs of highway safety with the desire for extreme
> > offroading, and the 16" tires on the Rubi are a happy medium where these
> two
> > worlds meet.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
02-09-2004, 05:59 PM
#12
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rim diameter question
I don't think the Rubi gets larger brakes than the other TJ models though.
It gets discs on all four corners, but they are the same discs that the
other TJs get.
"Carlo" <carlo.jr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Pc2dnU1CM6c6ZrrdRVn-uA@comcast.com...
> I would consider using 16" wheels if needed to provide clearance for
larger
> calipers - don't know if that has anything to do with the reason the rubi
> has them....
>
> --
> Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
> carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
> '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
> O|||||||O
> '92 Explorer '65 Mustang
>
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:102fjd79t1kas19@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "Patrick Mills" <plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > news:pan.2004.02.09.10.50.33.915880@ix.netcom.com. ..
> > > I'm trying to learn about the pros and cons of 15" vs. 16" tire rims -
> > > especially with respect to onroad vs. offroad use
> > >
> > > Research so far appears to reveal the following general
beliefs/"facts":
> > >
> > > 1) All else equal, 15" rims may be better offroad due to higher tire
> > > sidewall (increased flex)
> > >
> >
> > Correct. The sidewalls - and more accurately, the shoulder of the
tread -
> is
> > a very important traction aid when the tires are aired-down. But, when
the
> > tires are aired down, the rim can be exposed to more damage if the
> sidewalls
> > are smaller.
> >
> >
> >
> > > 2) 16" rims may be better onroad, due to less tire sidewall (decreased
> > > flex)
> > >
> >
> > Again, correct. The smaller sidewalls have less flex, therefore they
> provide
> > a more sure footed driving experience on the highway.
> >
> >
> >
> > > 3) 16" rims fit only metric-sized tires (? is this correct?), but such
> > > tires tend to cost more (? again, is this true?)
> > >
> >
> > I have to do some research on this one, but my knee-jerk response is
that
> > you are wrong on this point. The metric size that comes on the Rubi can
be
> > translated into a 31x9.50 or 31x10.50 (I forget which). But, I am almost
> 99%
> > positive that you can get a 32" ~ 35" on a 16" rim.
> >
> >
> >
> > > 4) Despite "fact" #1, 16" rims are preferred for rock crawling (if
true,
> > > why?)
> > >
> >
> > I am not sure this is true. Given the explanation that I used, I would
> lean
> > towards the 15" as the better choice. I happen to think that the Rubi
has
> > other features that make the 16" tires an "acceptable risk."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > 5) Internationally, 16" rims are more "standard" and tires to fit them
> are
> > > more readily available
> > >
> >
> > I don't think this is true at all. 15" rims have been around for
decades,
> > 16" is a relatively new option.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > 6) Generally speaking, 16" tires may be used more widely by SUV
> > > manufacturers who realize the primary use of such vehicles is onroad
(?
> if
> > > true, why would Jeep choose 16" tires as the standard rim size for the
> > > Rubicon, unless "fact" #4 is actually true?)
> > >
> >
> > This is a good question, one that I have asked myself. I think that in
the
> > grand scheme of things, the manufacturer has to be concerned with
> liability
> > issues relative to tall tires. I suppose they can mitigate some of those
> > issues with a larger rim. I really don't think the manufacturers set out
> to
> > build the extreme rock crawlers that we so enjoy. They look at what we
do,
> > and try to blend the needs of highway safety with the desire for extreme
> > offroading, and the 16" tires on the Rubi are a happy medium where these
> two
> > worlds meet.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
It gets discs on all four corners, but they are the same discs that the
other TJs get.
"Carlo" <carlo.jr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Pc2dnU1CM6c6ZrrdRVn-uA@comcast.com...
> I would consider using 16" wheels if needed to provide clearance for
larger
> calipers - don't know if that has anything to do with the reason the rubi
> has them....
>
> --
> Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
> carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
> '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
> O|||||||O
> '92 Explorer '65 Mustang
>
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:102fjd79t1kas19@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "Patrick Mills" <plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > news:pan.2004.02.09.10.50.33.915880@ix.netcom.com. ..
> > > I'm trying to learn about the pros and cons of 15" vs. 16" tire rims -
> > > especially with respect to onroad vs. offroad use
> > >
> > > Research so far appears to reveal the following general
beliefs/"facts":
> > >
> > > 1) All else equal, 15" rims may be better offroad due to higher tire
> > > sidewall (increased flex)
> > >
> >
> > Correct. The sidewalls - and more accurately, the shoulder of the
tread -
> is
> > a very important traction aid when the tires are aired-down. But, when
the
> > tires are aired down, the rim can be exposed to more damage if the
> sidewalls
> > are smaller.
> >
> >
> >
> > > 2) 16" rims may be better onroad, due to less tire sidewall (decreased
> > > flex)
> > >
> >
> > Again, correct. The smaller sidewalls have less flex, therefore they
> provide
> > a more sure footed driving experience on the highway.
> >
> >
> >
> > > 3) 16" rims fit only metric-sized tires (? is this correct?), but such
> > > tires tend to cost more (? again, is this true?)
> > >
> >
> > I have to do some research on this one, but my knee-jerk response is
that
> > you are wrong on this point. The metric size that comes on the Rubi can
be
> > translated into a 31x9.50 or 31x10.50 (I forget which). But, I am almost
> 99%
> > positive that you can get a 32" ~ 35" on a 16" rim.
> >
> >
> >
> > > 4) Despite "fact" #1, 16" rims are preferred for rock crawling (if
true,
> > > why?)
> > >
> >
> > I am not sure this is true. Given the explanation that I used, I would
> lean
> > towards the 15" as the better choice. I happen to think that the Rubi
has
> > other features that make the 16" tires an "acceptable risk."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > 5) Internationally, 16" rims are more "standard" and tires to fit them
> are
> > > more readily available
> > >
> >
> > I don't think this is true at all. 15" rims have been around for
decades,
> > 16" is a relatively new option.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > 6) Generally speaking, 16" tires may be used more widely by SUV
> > > manufacturers who realize the primary use of such vehicles is onroad
(?
> if
> > > true, why would Jeep choose 16" tires as the standard rim size for the
> > > Rubicon, unless "fact" #4 is actually true?)
> > >
> >
> > This is a good question, one that I have asked myself. I think that in
the
> > grand scheme of things, the manufacturer has to be concerned with
> liability
> > issues relative to tall tires. I suppose they can mitigate some of those
> > issues with a larger rim. I really don't think the manufacturers set out
> to
> > build the extreme rock crawlers that we so enjoy. They look at what we
do,
> > and try to blend the needs of highway safety with the desire for extreme
> > offroading, and the 16" tires on the Rubi are a happy medium where these
> two
> > worlds meet.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
02-09-2004, 05:59 PM
#13
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rim diameter question
I don't think the Rubi gets larger brakes than the other TJ models though.
It gets discs on all four corners, but they are the same discs that the
other TJs get.
"Carlo" <carlo.jr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Pc2dnU1CM6c6ZrrdRVn-uA@comcast.com...
> I would consider using 16" wheels if needed to provide clearance for
larger
> calipers - don't know if that has anything to do with the reason the rubi
> has them....
>
> --
> Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
> carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
> '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
> O|||||||O
> '92 Explorer '65 Mustang
>
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:102fjd79t1kas19@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "Patrick Mills" <plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > news:pan.2004.02.09.10.50.33.915880@ix.netcom.com. ..
> > > I'm trying to learn about the pros and cons of 15" vs. 16" tire rims -
> > > especially with respect to onroad vs. offroad use
> > >
> > > Research so far appears to reveal the following general
beliefs/"facts":
> > >
> > > 1) All else equal, 15" rims may be better offroad due to higher tire
> > > sidewall (increased flex)
> > >
> >
> > Correct. The sidewalls - and more accurately, the shoulder of the
tread -
> is
> > a very important traction aid when the tires are aired-down. But, when
the
> > tires are aired down, the rim can be exposed to more damage if the
> sidewalls
> > are smaller.
> >
> >
> >
> > > 2) 16" rims may be better onroad, due to less tire sidewall (decreased
> > > flex)
> > >
> >
> > Again, correct. The smaller sidewalls have less flex, therefore they
> provide
> > a more sure footed driving experience on the highway.
> >
> >
> >
> > > 3) 16" rims fit only metric-sized tires (? is this correct?), but such
> > > tires tend to cost more (? again, is this true?)
> > >
> >
> > I have to do some research on this one, but my knee-jerk response is
that
> > you are wrong on this point. The metric size that comes on the Rubi can
be
> > translated into a 31x9.50 or 31x10.50 (I forget which). But, I am almost
> 99%
> > positive that you can get a 32" ~ 35" on a 16" rim.
> >
> >
> >
> > > 4) Despite "fact" #1, 16" rims are preferred for rock crawling (if
true,
> > > why?)
> > >
> >
> > I am not sure this is true. Given the explanation that I used, I would
> lean
> > towards the 15" as the better choice. I happen to think that the Rubi
has
> > other features that make the 16" tires an "acceptable risk."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > 5) Internationally, 16" rims are more "standard" and tires to fit them
> are
> > > more readily available
> > >
> >
> > I don't think this is true at all. 15" rims have been around for
decades,
> > 16" is a relatively new option.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > 6) Generally speaking, 16" tires may be used more widely by SUV
> > > manufacturers who realize the primary use of such vehicles is onroad
(?
> if
> > > true, why would Jeep choose 16" tires as the standard rim size for the
> > > Rubicon, unless "fact" #4 is actually true?)
> > >
> >
> > This is a good question, one that I have asked myself. I think that in
the
> > grand scheme of things, the manufacturer has to be concerned with
> liability
> > issues relative to tall tires. I suppose they can mitigate some of those
> > issues with a larger rim. I really don't think the manufacturers set out
> to
> > build the extreme rock crawlers that we so enjoy. They look at what we
do,
> > and try to blend the needs of highway safety with the desire for extreme
> > offroading, and the 16" tires on the Rubi are a happy medium where these
> two
> > worlds meet.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
It gets discs on all four corners, but they are the same discs that the
other TJs get.
"Carlo" <carlo.jr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Pc2dnU1CM6c6ZrrdRVn-uA@comcast.com...
> I would consider using 16" wheels if needed to provide clearance for
larger
> calipers - don't know if that has anything to do with the reason the rubi
> has them....
>
> --
> Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
> carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
> '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
> O|||||||O
> '92 Explorer '65 Mustang
>
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:102fjd79t1kas19@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "Patrick Mills" <plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > news:pan.2004.02.09.10.50.33.915880@ix.netcom.com. ..
> > > I'm trying to learn about the pros and cons of 15" vs. 16" tire rims -
> > > especially with respect to onroad vs. offroad use
> > >
> > > Research so far appears to reveal the following general
beliefs/"facts":
> > >
> > > 1) All else equal, 15" rims may be better offroad due to higher tire
> > > sidewall (increased flex)
> > >
> >
> > Correct. The sidewalls - and more accurately, the shoulder of the
tread -
> is
> > a very important traction aid when the tires are aired-down. But, when
the
> > tires are aired down, the rim can be exposed to more damage if the
> sidewalls
> > are smaller.
> >
> >
> >
> > > 2) 16" rims may be better onroad, due to less tire sidewall (decreased
> > > flex)
> > >
> >
> > Again, correct. The smaller sidewalls have less flex, therefore they
> provide
> > a more sure footed driving experience on the highway.
> >
> >
> >
> > > 3) 16" rims fit only metric-sized tires (? is this correct?), but such
> > > tires tend to cost more (? again, is this true?)
> > >
> >
> > I have to do some research on this one, but my knee-jerk response is
that
> > you are wrong on this point. The metric size that comes on the Rubi can
be
> > translated into a 31x9.50 or 31x10.50 (I forget which). But, I am almost
> 99%
> > positive that you can get a 32" ~ 35" on a 16" rim.
> >
> >
> >
> > > 4) Despite "fact" #1, 16" rims are preferred for rock crawling (if
true,
> > > why?)
> > >
> >
> > I am not sure this is true. Given the explanation that I used, I would
> lean
> > towards the 15" as the better choice. I happen to think that the Rubi
has
> > other features that make the 16" tires an "acceptable risk."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > 5) Internationally, 16" rims are more "standard" and tires to fit them
> are
> > > more readily available
> > >
> >
> > I don't think this is true at all. 15" rims have been around for
decades,
> > 16" is a relatively new option.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > 6) Generally speaking, 16" tires may be used more widely by SUV
> > > manufacturers who realize the primary use of such vehicles is onroad
(?
> if
> > > true, why would Jeep choose 16" tires as the standard rim size for the
> > > Rubicon, unless "fact" #4 is actually true?)
> > >
> >
> > This is a good question, one that I have asked myself. I think that in
the
> > grand scheme of things, the manufacturer has to be concerned with
> liability
> > issues relative to tall tires. I suppose they can mitigate some of those
> > issues with a larger rim. I really don't think the manufacturers set out
> to
> > build the extreme rock crawlers that we so enjoy. They look at what we
do,
> > and try to blend the needs of highway safety with the desire for extreme
> > offroading, and the 16" tires on the Rubi are a happy medium where these
> two
> > worlds meet.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
02-09-2004, 06:05 PM
#14
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rim diameter question
Correct
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:102g49u3m2r7r9c@corp.supernews.com...
> I don't think the Rubi gets larger brakes than the other TJ models though.
> It gets discs on all four corners, but they are the same discs that the
> other TJs get.
snip
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:102g49u3m2r7r9c@corp.supernews.com...
> I don't think the Rubi gets larger brakes than the other TJ models though.
> It gets discs on all four corners, but they are the same discs that the
> other TJs get.
snip
02-09-2004, 06:05 PM
#15
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Posts: n/a
Re: Rim diameter question
Correct
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:102g49u3m2r7r9c@corp.supernews.com...
> I don't think the Rubi gets larger brakes than the other TJ models though.
> It gets discs on all four corners, but they are the same discs that the
> other TJs get.
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"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I don't think the Rubi gets larger brakes than the other TJ models though.
> It gets discs on all four corners, but they are the same discs that the
> other TJs get.
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02-09-2004, 06:05 PM
#16
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Re: Rim diameter question
Correct
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:102g49u3m2r7r9c@corp.supernews.com...
> I don't think the Rubi gets larger brakes than the other TJ models though.
> It gets discs on all four corners, but they are the same discs that the
> other TJs get.
snip
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:102g49u3m2r7r9c@corp.supernews.com...
> I don't think the Rubi gets larger brakes than the other TJ models though.
> It gets discs on all four corners, but they are the same discs that the
> other TJs get.
snip
02-09-2004, 06:14 PM
#17
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Re: Rim diameter question
Hi Patrick,
You're thinking of the 390 mm metric wheels used in the early
eighties to dress up the rally GT style cars, they were 15.6 inches.
For offroad we want as big, fat, balloon, floatation type tire that
will still fit around the hub and brakes, and fifteen inch rims do that
for most Jeeps, for on road stability you want as low a profile that
will not flex, but maintain as much contact with the pavement as
possible, here's what you need: http://www.----------.com/jeep21rim.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Patrick Mills wrote:
>
> I'm trying to learn about the pros and cons of 15" vs. 16" tire rims -
> especially with respect to onroad vs. offroad use
>
> Research so far appears to reveal the following general beliefs/"facts":
>
> 1) All else equal, 15" rims may be better offroad due to higher tire
> sidewall (increased flex)
>
> 2) 16" rims may be better onroad, due to less tire sidewall (decreased
> flex)
>
> 3) 16" rims fit only metric-sized tires (? is this correct?), but such
> tires tend to cost more (? again, is this true?)
>
> 4) Despite "fact" #1, 16" rims are preferred for rock crawling (if true,
> why?)
>
> 5) Internationally, 16" rims are more "standard" and tires to fit them are
> more readily available
>
> 6) Generally speaking, 16" tires may be used more widely by SUV
> manufacturers who realize the primary use of such vehicles is onroad (? if
> true, why would Jeep choose 16" tires as the standard rim size for the
> Rubicon, unless "fact" #4 is actually true?)
>
> Would appreciate someone verifying these "facts" or setting me straight...
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
> ||| |||
You're thinking of the 390 mm metric wheels used in the early
eighties to dress up the rally GT style cars, they were 15.6 inches.
For offroad we want as big, fat, balloon, floatation type tire that
will still fit around the hub and brakes, and fifteen inch rims do that
for most Jeeps, for on road stability you want as low a profile that
will not flex, but maintain as much contact with the pavement as
possible, here's what you need: http://www.----------.com/jeep21rim.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Patrick Mills wrote:
>
> I'm trying to learn about the pros and cons of 15" vs. 16" tire rims -
> especially with respect to onroad vs. offroad use
>
> Research so far appears to reveal the following general beliefs/"facts":
>
> 1) All else equal, 15" rims may be better offroad due to higher tire
> sidewall (increased flex)
>
> 2) 16" rims may be better onroad, due to less tire sidewall (decreased
> flex)
>
> 3) 16" rims fit only metric-sized tires (? is this correct?), but such
> tires tend to cost more (? again, is this true?)
>
> 4) Despite "fact" #1, 16" rims are preferred for rock crawling (if true,
> why?)
>
> 5) Internationally, 16" rims are more "standard" and tires to fit them are
> more readily available
>
> 6) Generally speaking, 16" tires may be used more widely by SUV
> manufacturers who realize the primary use of such vehicles is onroad (? if
> true, why would Jeep choose 16" tires as the standard rim size for the
> Rubicon, unless "fact" #4 is actually true?)
>
> Would appreciate someone verifying these "facts" or setting me straight...
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
> ||| |||
02-09-2004, 06:14 PM
#18
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Posts: n/a
Re: Rim diameter question
Hi Patrick,
You're thinking of the 390 mm metric wheels used in the early
eighties to dress up the rally GT style cars, they were 15.6 inches.
For offroad we want as big, fat, balloon, floatation type tire that
will still fit around the hub and brakes, and fifteen inch rims do that
for most Jeeps, for on road stability you want as low a profile that
will not flex, but maintain as much contact with the pavement as
possible, here's what you need: http://www.----------.com/jeep21rim.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Patrick Mills wrote:
>
> I'm trying to learn about the pros and cons of 15" vs. 16" tire rims -
> especially with respect to onroad vs. offroad use
>
> Research so far appears to reveal the following general beliefs/"facts":
>
> 1) All else equal, 15" rims may be better offroad due to higher tire
> sidewall (increased flex)
>
> 2) 16" rims may be better onroad, due to less tire sidewall (decreased
> flex)
>
> 3) 16" rims fit only metric-sized tires (? is this correct?), but such
> tires tend to cost more (? again, is this true?)
>
> 4) Despite "fact" #1, 16" rims are preferred for rock crawling (if true,
> why?)
>
> 5) Internationally, 16" rims are more "standard" and tires to fit them are
> more readily available
>
> 6) Generally speaking, 16" tires may be used more widely by SUV
> manufacturers who realize the primary use of such vehicles is onroad (? if
> true, why would Jeep choose 16" tires as the standard rim size for the
> Rubicon, unless "fact" #4 is actually true?)
>
> Would appreciate someone verifying these "facts" or setting me straight...
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
> ||| |||
You're thinking of the 390 mm metric wheels used in the early
eighties to dress up the rally GT style cars, they were 15.6 inches.
For offroad we want as big, fat, balloon, floatation type tire that
will still fit around the hub and brakes, and fifteen inch rims do that
for most Jeeps, for on road stability you want as low a profile that
will not flex, but maintain as much contact with the pavement as
possible, here's what you need: http://www.----------.com/jeep21rim.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Patrick Mills wrote:
>
> I'm trying to learn about the pros and cons of 15" vs. 16" tire rims -
> especially with respect to onroad vs. offroad use
>
> Research so far appears to reveal the following general beliefs/"facts":
>
> 1) All else equal, 15" rims may be better offroad due to higher tire
> sidewall (increased flex)
>
> 2) 16" rims may be better onroad, due to less tire sidewall (decreased
> flex)
>
> 3) 16" rims fit only metric-sized tires (? is this correct?), but such
> tires tend to cost more (? again, is this true?)
>
> 4) Despite "fact" #1, 16" rims are preferred for rock crawling (if true,
> why?)
>
> 5) Internationally, 16" rims are more "standard" and tires to fit them are
> more readily available
>
> 6) Generally speaking, 16" tires may be used more widely by SUV
> manufacturers who realize the primary use of such vehicles is onroad (? if
> true, why would Jeep choose 16" tires as the standard rim size for the
> Rubicon, unless "fact" #4 is actually true?)
>
> Would appreciate someone verifying these "facts" or setting me straight...
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
> ||| |||
02-09-2004, 06:14 PM
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rim diameter question
Hi Patrick,
You're thinking of the 390 mm metric wheels used in the early
eighties to dress up the rally GT style cars, they were 15.6 inches.
For offroad we want as big, fat, balloon, floatation type tire that
will still fit around the hub and brakes, and fifteen inch rims do that
for most Jeeps, for on road stability you want as low a profile that
will not flex, but maintain as much contact with the pavement as
possible, here's what you need: http://www.----------.com/jeep21rim.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Patrick Mills wrote:
>
> I'm trying to learn about the pros and cons of 15" vs. 16" tire rims -
> especially with respect to onroad vs. offroad use
>
> Research so far appears to reveal the following general beliefs/"facts":
>
> 1) All else equal, 15" rims may be better offroad due to higher tire
> sidewall (increased flex)
>
> 2) 16" rims may be better onroad, due to less tire sidewall (decreased
> flex)
>
> 3) 16" rims fit only metric-sized tires (? is this correct?), but such
> tires tend to cost more (? again, is this true?)
>
> 4) Despite "fact" #1, 16" rims are preferred for rock crawling (if true,
> why?)
>
> 5) Internationally, 16" rims are more "standard" and tires to fit them are
> more readily available
>
> 6) Generally speaking, 16" tires may be used more widely by SUV
> manufacturers who realize the primary use of such vehicles is onroad (? if
> true, why would Jeep choose 16" tires as the standard rim size for the
> Rubicon, unless "fact" #4 is actually true?)
>
> Would appreciate someone verifying these "facts" or setting me straight...
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
> ||| |||
You're thinking of the 390 mm metric wheels used in the early
eighties to dress up the rally GT style cars, they were 15.6 inches.
For offroad we want as big, fat, balloon, floatation type tire that
will still fit around the hub and brakes, and fifteen inch rims do that
for most Jeeps, for on road stability you want as low a profile that
will not flex, but maintain as much contact with the pavement as
possible, here's what you need: http://www.----------.com/jeep21rim.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Patrick Mills wrote:
>
> I'm trying to learn about the pros and cons of 15" vs. 16" tire rims -
> especially with respect to onroad vs. offroad use
>
> Research so far appears to reveal the following general beliefs/"facts":
>
> 1) All else equal, 15" rims may be better offroad due to higher tire
> sidewall (increased flex)
>
> 2) 16" rims may be better onroad, due to less tire sidewall (decreased
> flex)
>
> 3) 16" rims fit only metric-sized tires (? is this correct?), but such
> tires tend to cost more (? again, is this true?)
>
> 4) Despite "fact" #1, 16" rims are preferred for rock crawling (if true,
> why?)
>
> 5) Internationally, 16" rims are more "standard" and tires to fit them are
> more readily available
>
> 6) Generally speaking, 16" tires may be used more widely by SUV
> manufacturers who realize the primary use of such vehicles is onroad (? if
> true, why would Jeep choose 16" tires as the standard rim size for the
> Rubicon, unless "fact" #4 is actually true?)
>
> Would appreciate someone verifying these "facts" or setting me straight...
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
> ||| |||
02-09-2004, 07:46 PM
#20
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Re: Rim diameter question
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 15:14:38 -0800, L.W.------ wrote:
> Hi Patrick,
> You're thinking of the 390 mm metric wheels used in the early
> eighties to dress up the rally GT style cars, they were 15.6 inches.
> For offroad we want as big, fat, balloon, floatation type tire that
> will still fit around the hub and brakes, and fifteen inch rims do that
> for most Jeeps, for on road stability you want as low a profile that
> will not flex, but maintain as much contact with the pavement as
> possible, here's what you need: http://www.----------.com/jeep21rim.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
interesting picture...excuse me while I throw up............ahh - that's
better
Since you like to collect the odd pic now and then, I think you'll
enjoy this:
http://www.cardomain.com/id/jeepdubs2003
PLM
[ ]
__OIIIIO__
|||=oo=|||
||| |||
> Hi Patrick,
> You're thinking of the 390 mm metric wheels used in the early
> eighties to dress up the rally GT style cars, they were 15.6 inches.
> For offroad we want as big, fat, balloon, floatation type tire that
> will still fit around the hub and brakes, and fifteen inch rims do that
> for most Jeeps, for on road stability you want as low a profile that
> will not flex, but maintain as much contact with the pavement as
> possible, here's what you need: http://www.----------.com/jeep21rim.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
interesting picture...excuse me while I throw up............ahh - that's
better
Since you like to collect the odd pic now and then, I think you'll
enjoy this:
http://www.cardomain.com/id/jeepdubs2003
PLM
[ ]
__OIIIIO__
|||=oo=|||
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