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billy ray 04-05-2007 08:46 PM

Re: Replacing spark plugs
 
That engine came from the factory with copper Champions as your 'mechanic'
well knows.

If you have had no drivability problems with the Platinums (I haven't in 3
Jeeps) you can continue with them but be advised Bosch Platinums RETAIL for
less than $2.50 each.



"tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The
> mechanic
> just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so
> he must
> replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace
> platinum
> plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge)
> and
> wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend
> to keep
> the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm
> inclined
> to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just
> getting
> scammed?
>
> thanks.
>
> -Tin
>




billy ray 04-05-2007 08:46 PM

Re: Replacing spark plugs
 
That engine came from the factory with copper Champions as your 'mechanic'
well knows.

If you have had no drivability problems with the Platinums (I haven't in 3
Jeeps) you can continue with them but be advised Bosch Platinums RETAIL for
less than $2.50 each.



"tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The
> mechanic
> just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so
> he must
> replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace
> platinum
> plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge)
> and
> wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend
> to keep
> the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm
> inclined
> to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just
> getting
> scammed?
>
> thanks.
>
> -Tin
>




billy ray 04-05-2007 08:46 PM

Re: Replacing spark plugs
 
That engine came from the factory with copper Champions as your 'mechanic'
well knows.

If you have had no drivability problems with the Platinums (I haven't in 3
Jeeps) you can continue with them but be advised Bosch Platinums RETAIL for
less than $2.50 each.



"tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The
> mechanic
> just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so
> he must
> replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace
> platinum
> plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge)
> and
> wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend
> to keep
> the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm
> inclined
> to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just
> getting
> scammed?
>
> thanks.
>
> -Tin
>




Jeff Strickland 04-05-2007 08:50 PM

Re: Replacing spark plugs
 

"tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The
> mechanic
> just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so
> he must
> replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace
> platinum
> plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge)
> and
> wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend
> to keep
> the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm
> inclined
> to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just
> getting
> scammed?
>
> thanks.
>
> -Tin
>



It may or may not be a load of crap. It doesn't matter what he found, it
only matters what the design calls for. I don't know what they designed for
that motor, but my 258 (4.2L, sotrta) just takes standard plugs. I can't
imagine your 4.0L requires platinum plugs, I suspect a previous owner put
them in, or if you are the previous onwer then a shop installed them for you
for any number of reasons.

What I can say with certainty is that if you need high performance plugs,
and you get standard plugs, the motor won't run worth a ----.

I once owned a brand spanking new GM car with a High Output (quotes needed
there) 2.8L V6 that -- I swear to God -- could not get out of its own way.
Well, by and by I decided to replace the spark plugs because it was time. I
went to the corner store and they looked up in the catalog, and came back
with the "right" plugs. I installed them, and went for a test drive on the
main drag in my town. Not only couldn't I get out of my own way, I became
serious problem to the general population also using the main drag. I got
back to my driveway, and checked EVERYTHING. Yes, everything. I had to take
the car to the local tune up shop, and the guy pulled a plug and reported,
"here's your trouble." It turns out the plug requirement was for some
Hot-Snot Copper Core something or other, but all I had was regular snot. I
took the regular snot and the mechanic's bill to the auto parts store, but
all I got back was the cost for the crappy plugs.

The moral of the story is, you might need hot-snot spark plugs, in which
case you should get them. I think you can use the regular snot plugs though,
and save several dollars.






Jeff Strickland 04-05-2007 08:50 PM

Re: Replacing spark plugs
 

"tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The
> mechanic
> just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so
> he must
> replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace
> platinum
> plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge)
> and
> wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend
> to keep
> the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm
> inclined
> to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just
> getting
> scammed?
>
> thanks.
>
> -Tin
>



It may or may not be a load of crap. It doesn't matter what he found, it
only matters what the design calls for. I don't know what they designed for
that motor, but my 258 (4.2L, sotrta) just takes standard plugs. I can't
imagine your 4.0L requires platinum plugs, I suspect a previous owner put
them in, or if you are the previous onwer then a shop installed them for you
for any number of reasons.

What I can say with certainty is that if you need high performance plugs,
and you get standard plugs, the motor won't run worth a ----.

I once owned a brand spanking new GM car with a High Output (quotes needed
there) 2.8L V6 that -- I swear to God -- could not get out of its own way.
Well, by and by I decided to replace the spark plugs because it was time. I
went to the corner store and they looked up in the catalog, and came back
with the "right" plugs. I installed them, and went for a test drive on the
main drag in my town. Not only couldn't I get out of my own way, I became
serious problem to the general population also using the main drag. I got
back to my driveway, and checked EVERYTHING. Yes, everything. I had to take
the car to the local tune up shop, and the guy pulled a plug and reported,
"here's your trouble." It turns out the plug requirement was for some
Hot-Snot Copper Core something or other, but all I had was regular snot. I
took the regular snot and the mechanic's bill to the auto parts store, but
all I got back was the cost for the crappy plugs.

The moral of the story is, you might need hot-snot spark plugs, in which
case you should get them. I think you can use the regular snot plugs though,
and save several dollars.






Jeff Strickland 04-05-2007 08:50 PM

Re: Replacing spark plugs
 

"tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The
> mechanic
> just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so
> he must
> replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace
> platinum
> plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge)
> and
> wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend
> to keep
> the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm
> inclined
> to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just
> getting
> scammed?
>
> thanks.
>
> -Tin
>



It may or may not be a load of crap. It doesn't matter what he found, it
only matters what the design calls for. I don't know what they designed for
that motor, but my 258 (4.2L, sotrta) just takes standard plugs. I can't
imagine your 4.0L requires platinum plugs, I suspect a previous owner put
them in, or if you are the previous onwer then a shop installed them for you
for any number of reasons.

What I can say with certainty is that if you need high performance plugs,
and you get standard plugs, the motor won't run worth a ----.

I once owned a brand spanking new GM car with a High Output (quotes needed
there) 2.8L V6 that -- I swear to God -- could not get out of its own way.
Well, by and by I decided to replace the spark plugs because it was time. I
went to the corner store and they looked up in the catalog, and came back
with the "right" plugs. I installed them, and went for a test drive on the
main drag in my town. Not only couldn't I get out of my own way, I became
serious problem to the general population also using the main drag. I got
back to my driveway, and checked EVERYTHING. Yes, everything. I had to take
the car to the local tune up shop, and the guy pulled a plug and reported,
"here's your trouble." It turns out the plug requirement was for some
Hot-Snot Copper Core something or other, but all I had was regular snot. I
took the regular snot and the mechanic's bill to the auto parts store, but
all I got back was the cost for the crappy plugs.

The moral of the story is, you might need hot-snot spark plugs, in which
case you should get them. I think you can use the regular snot plugs though,
and save several dollars.






Jeff Strickland 04-05-2007 08:57 PM

Re: Replacing spark plugs
 

"tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175812171.360267.184210@l77g2000hsb.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Thanks, Doug. I'm just going to insist he replace them with regular
> plugs and I'll take the *chance* of the engine blowing up :)
>
> thx.
>
> -Tin



There's no danger of the motor blowing up. It just won't run well.



Jeff Strickland 04-05-2007 08:57 PM

Re: Replacing spark plugs
 

"tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175812171.360267.184210@l77g2000hsb.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Thanks, Doug. I'm just going to insist he replace them with regular
> plugs and I'll take the *chance* of the engine blowing up :)
>
> thx.
>
> -Tin



There's no danger of the motor blowing up. It just won't run well.



Jeff Strickland 04-05-2007 08:57 PM

Re: Replacing spark plugs
 

"tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175812171.360267.184210@l77g2000hsb.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Thanks, Doug. I'm just going to insist he replace them with regular
> plugs and I'll take the *chance* of the engine blowing up :)
>
> thx.
>
> -Tin



There's no danger of the motor blowing up. It just won't run well.



Mike 04-05-2007 10:32 PM

Re: Replacing spark plugs
 

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:80f04$461598e4$4831bf01$755@FUSE.NET...
> That engine came from the factory with copper Champions as your 'mechanic'
> well knows.
>
> If you have had no drivability problems with the Platinums (I haven't in
> 3 Jeeps) you can continue with them but be advised Bosch Platinums RETAIL
> for less than $2.50 each.
>


Bosh spark plugs are junk. I wouldn't put them in a lawn mower. Every time
I have seen a car with driveability problems due to bad spark plugs they
have always been Bosh.


>
> "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The
>> mechanic
>> just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so
>> he must
>> replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace
>> platinum
>> plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge)
>> and
>> wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend
>> to keep
>> the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm
>> inclined
>> to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just
>> getting
>> scammed?
>>
>> thanks.
>>
>> -Tin
>>

>
>





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