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Replacing spark plugs
Hi,
I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The mechanic just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so he must replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace platinum plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge) and wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend to keep the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm inclined to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just getting scammed? thanks. -Tin |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
tinman wrote:
> Hi, > > I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The > mechanic > just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so > he must > replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace > platinum > plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge) > and > wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend > to keep > the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm > inclined > to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just > getting > scammed? That's a load of bull. For that much you may as well go buy six plat plugs like the ones that are in there and take them to the mechanic to install. Just remind them to take off the cost of OEM regular plugs from your ticket or give you the plugs since you paid for them. -- DougW |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
tinman wrote:
> Hi, > > I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The > mechanic > just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so > he must > replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace > platinum > plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge) > and > wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend > to keep > the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm > inclined > to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just > getting > scammed? That's a load of bull. For that much you may as well go buy six plat plugs like the ones that are in there and take them to the mechanic to install. Just remind them to take off the cost of OEM regular plugs from your ticket or give you the plugs since you paid for them. -- DougW |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
tinman wrote:
> Hi, > > I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The > mechanic > just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so > he must > replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace > platinum > plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge) > and > wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend > to keep > the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm > inclined > to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just > getting > scammed? That's a load of bull. For that much you may as well go buy six plat plugs like the ones that are in there and take them to the mechanic to install. Just remind them to take off the cost of OEM regular plugs from your ticket or give you the plugs since you paid for them. -- DougW |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
Thanks, Doug. I'm just going to insist he replace them with regular plugs and I'll take the *chance* of the engine blowing up :) thx. -Tin > > That's a load of bull. > > For that much you may as well go buy six plat plugs like the ones > that are in there and take them to the mechanic to install. Just remind > them to take off the cost of OEM regular plugs from your ticket or give > you the plugs since you paid for them. > > -- > DougW |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
Thanks, Doug. I'm just going to insist he replace them with regular plugs and I'll take the *chance* of the engine blowing up :) thx. -Tin > > That's a load of bull. > > For that much you may as well go buy six plat plugs like the ones > that are in there and take them to the mechanic to install. Just remind > them to take off the cost of OEM regular plugs from your ticket or give > you the plugs since you paid for them. > > -- > DougW |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
Thanks, Doug. I'm just going to insist he replace them with regular plugs and I'll take the *chance* of the engine blowing up :) thx. -Tin > > That's a load of bull. > > For that much you may as well go buy six plat plugs like the ones > that are in there and take them to the mechanic to install. Just remind > them to take off the cost of OEM regular plugs from your ticket or give > you the plugs since you paid for them. > > -- > DougW |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
What does the label say? There should be a label under the hood somewhere
that says what kind of plugs you are supposed to use and other emissions related information. If it really does have platinum plugs in there they are supposed to last longer, and they probably don't need to be replaced now. Earle "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1175812171.360267.184210@l77g2000hsb.googlegr oups.com... > > Thanks, Doug. I'm just going to insist he replace them with regular > plugs and I'll take the *chance* of the engine blowing up :) > > thx. > > -Tin > > > > > That's a load of bull. > > > > For that much you may as well go buy six plat plugs like the ones > > that are in there and take them to the mechanic to install. Just remind > > them to take off the cost of OEM regular plugs from your ticket or give > > you the plugs since you paid for them. > > > > -- > > DougW > > |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
What does the label say? There should be a label under the hood somewhere
that says what kind of plugs you are supposed to use and other emissions related information. If it really does have platinum plugs in there they are supposed to last longer, and they probably don't need to be replaced now. Earle "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1175812171.360267.184210@l77g2000hsb.googlegr oups.com... > > Thanks, Doug. I'm just going to insist he replace them with regular > plugs and I'll take the *chance* of the engine blowing up :) > > thx. > > -Tin > > > > > That's a load of bull. > > > > For that much you may as well go buy six plat plugs like the ones > > that are in there and take them to the mechanic to install. Just remind > > them to take off the cost of OEM regular plugs from your ticket or give > > you the plugs since you paid for them. > > > > -- > > DougW > > |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
What does the label say? There should be a label under the hood somewhere
that says what kind of plugs you are supposed to use and other emissions related information. If it really does have platinum plugs in there they are supposed to last longer, and they probably don't need to be replaced now. Earle "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1175812171.360267.184210@l77g2000hsb.googlegr oups.com... > > Thanks, Doug. I'm just going to insist he replace them with regular > plugs and I'll take the *chance* of the engine blowing up :) > > thx. > > -Tin > > > > > That's a load of bull. > > > > For that much you may as well go buy six plat plugs like the ones > > that are in there and take them to the mechanic to install. Just remind > > them to take off the cost of OEM regular plugs from your ticket or give > > you the plugs since you paid for them. > > > > -- > > DougW > > |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
That engine came from the factory with copper Champions as your 'mechanic'
well knows. If you have had no drivability problems with the Platinums (I haven't in 3 Jeeps) you can continue with them but be advised Bosch Platinums RETAIL for less than $2.50 each. "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com... > Hi, > > I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The > mechanic > just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so > he must > replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace > platinum > plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge) > and > wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend > to keep > the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm > inclined > to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just > getting > scammed? > > thanks. > > -Tin > |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
That engine came from the factory with copper Champions as your 'mechanic'
well knows. If you have had no drivability problems with the Platinums (I haven't in 3 Jeeps) you can continue with them but be advised Bosch Platinums RETAIL for less than $2.50 each. "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com... > Hi, > > I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The > mechanic > just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so > he must > replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace > platinum > plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge) > and > wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend > to keep > the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm > inclined > to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just > getting > scammed? > > thanks. > > -Tin > |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
That engine came from the factory with copper Champions as your 'mechanic'
well knows. If you have had no drivability problems with the Platinums (I haven't in 3 Jeeps) you can continue with them but be advised Bosch Platinums RETAIL for less than $2.50 each. "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com... > Hi, > > I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The > mechanic > just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so > he must > replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace > platinum > plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge) > and > wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend > to keep > the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm > inclined > to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just > getting > scammed? > > thanks. > > -Tin > |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
"tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com... > Hi, > > I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The > mechanic > just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so > he must > replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace > platinum > plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge) > and > wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend > to keep > the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm > inclined > to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just > getting > scammed? > > thanks. > > -Tin > It may or may not be a load of crap. It doesn't matter what he found, it only matters what the design calls for. I don't know what they designed for that motor, but my 258 (4.2L, sotrta) just takes standard plugs. I can't imagine your 4.0L requires platinum plugs, I suspect a previous owner put them in, or if you are the previous onwer then a shop installed them for you for any number of reasons. What I can say with certainty is that if you need high performance plugs, and you get standard plugs, the motor won't run worth a ----. I once owned a brand spanking new GM car with a High Output (quotes needed there) 2.8L V6 that -- I swear to God -- could not get out of its own way. Well, by and by I decided to replace the spark plugs because it was time. I went to the corner store and they looked up in the catalog, and came back with the "right" plugs. I installed them, and went for a test drive on the main drag in my town. Not only couldn't I get out of my own way, I became serious problem to the general population also using the main drag. I got back to my driveway, and checked EVERYTHING. Yes, everything. I had to take the car to the local tune up shop, and the guy pulled a plug and reported, "here's your trouble." It turns out the plug requirement was for some Hot-Snot Copper Core something or other, but all I had was regular snot. I took the regular snot and the mechanic's bill to the auto parts store, but all I got back was the cost for the crappy plugs. The moral of the story is, you might need hot-snot spark plugs, in which case you should get them. I think you can use the regular snot plugs though, and save several dollars. |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
"tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com... > Hi, > > I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The > mechanic > just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so > he must > replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace > platinum > plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge) > and > wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend > to keep > the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm > inclined > to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just > getting > scammed? > > thanks. > > -Tin > It may or may not be a load of crap. It doesn't matter what he found, it only matters what the design calls for. I don't know what they designed for that motor, but my 258 (4.2L, sotrta) just takes standard plugs. I can't imagine your 4.0L requires platinum plugs, I suspect a previous owner put them in, or if you are the previous onwer then a shop installed them for you for any number of reasons. What I can say with certainty is that if you need high performance plugs, and you get standard plugs, the motor won't run worth a ----. I once owned a brand spanking new GM car with a High Output (quotes needed there) 2.8L V6 that -- I swear to God -- could not get out of its own way. Well, by and by I decided to replace the spark plugs because it was time. I went to the corner store and they looked up in the catalog, and came back with the "right" plugs. I installed them, and went for a test drive on the main drag in my town. Not only couldn't I get out of my own way, I became serious problem to the general population also using the main drag. I got back to my driveway, and checked EVERYTHING. Yes, everything. I had to take the car to the local tune up shop, and the guy pulled a plug and reported, "here's your trouble." It turns out the plug requirement was for some Hot-Snot Copper Core something or other, but all I had was regular snot. I took the regular snot and the mechanic's bill to the auto parts store, but all I got back was the cost for the crappy plugs. The moral of the story is, you might need hot-snot spark plugs, in which case you should get them. I think you can use the regular snot plugs though, and save several dollars. |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
"tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com... > Hi, > > I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The > mechanic > just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so > he must > replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace > platinum > plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge) > and > wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend > to keep > the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm > inclined > to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just > getting > scammed? > > thanks. > > -Tin > It may or may not be a load of crap. It doesn't matter what he found, it only matters what the design calls for. I don't know what they designed for that motor, but my 258 (4.2L, sotrta) just takes standard plugs. I can't imagine your 4.0L requires platinum plugs, I suspect a previous owner put them in, or if you are the previous onwer then a shop installed them for you for any number of reasons. What I can say with certainty is that if you need high performance plugs, and you get standard plugs, the motor won't run worth a ----. I once owned a brand spanking new GM car with a High Output (quotes needed there) 2.8L V6 that -- I swear to God -- could not get out of its own way. Well, by and by I decided to replace the spark plugs because it was time. I went to the corner store and they looked up in the catalog, and came back with the "right" plugs. I installed them, and went for a test drive on the main drag in my town. Not only couldn't I get out of my own way, I became serious problem to the general population also using the main drag. I got back to my driveway, and checked EVERYTHING. Yes, everything. I had to take the car to the local tune up shop, and the guy pulled a plug and reported, "here's your trouble." It turns out the plug requirement was for some Hot-Snot Copper Core something or other, but all I had was regular snot. I took the regular snot and the mechanic's bill to the auto parts store, but all I got back was the cost for the crappy plugs. The moral of the story is, you might need hot-snot spark plugs, in which case you should get them. I think you can use the regular snot plugs though, and save several dollars. |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
"tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1175812171.360267.184210@l77g2000hsb.googlegr oups.com... > > Thanks, Doug. I'm just going to insist he replace them with regular > plugs and I'll take the *chance* of the engine blowing up :) > > thx. > > -Tin There's no danger of the motor blowing up. It just won't run well. |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
"tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1175812171.360267.184210@l77g2000hsb.googlegr oups.com... > > Thanks, Doug. I'm just going to insist he replace them with regular > plugs and I'll take the *chance* of the engine blowing up :) > > thx. > > -Tin There's no danger of the motor blowing up. It just won't run well. |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
"tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1175812171.360267.184210@l77g2000hsb.googlegr oups.com... > > Thanks, Doug. I'm just going to insist he replace them with regular > plugs and I'll take the *chance* of the engine blowing up :) > > thx. > > -Tin There's no danger of the motor blowing up. It just won't run well. |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:80f04$461598e4$4831bf01$755@FUSE.NET... > That engine came from the factory with copper Champions as your 'mechanic' > well knows. > > If you have had no drivability problems with the Platinums (I haven't in > 3 Jeeps) you can continue with them but be advised Bosch Platinums RETAIL > for less than $2.50 each. > Bosh spark plugs are junk. I wouldn't put them in a lawn mower. Every time I have seen a car with driveability problems due to bad spark plugs they have always been Bosh. > > "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com... >> Hi, >> >> I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The >> mechanic >> just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so >> he must >> replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace >> platinum >> plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge) >> and >> wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend >> to keep >> the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm >> inclined >> to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just >> getting >> scammed? >> >> thanks. >> >> -Tin >> > > |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:80f04$461598e4$4831bf01$755@FUSE.NET... > That engine came from the factory with copper Champions as your 'mechanic' > well knows. > > If you have had no drivability problems with the Platinums (I haven't in > 3 Jeeps) you can continue with them but be advised Bosch Platinums RETAIL > for less than $2.50 each. > Bosh spark plugs are junk. I wouldn't put them in a lawn mower. Every time I have seen a car with driveability problems due to bad spark plugs they have always been Bosh. > > "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com... >> Hi, >> >> I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The >> mechanic >> just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so >> he must >> replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace >> platinum >> plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge) >> and >> wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend >> to keep >> the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm >> inclined >> to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just >> getting >> scammed? >> >> thanks. >> >> -Tin >> > > |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:80f04$461598e4$4831bf01$755@FUSE.NET... > That engine came from the factory with copper Champions as your 'mechanic' > well knows. > > If you have had no drivability problems with the Platinums (I haven't in > 3 Jeeps) you can continue with them but be advised Bosch Platinums RETAIL > for less than $2.50 each. > Bosh spark plugs are junk. I wouldn't put them in a lawn mower. Every time I have seen a car with driveability problems due to bad spark plugs they have always been Bosh. > > "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com... >> Hi, >> >> I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The >> mechanic >> just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so >> he must >> replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace >> platinum >> plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge) >> and >> wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend >> to keep >> the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm >> inclined >> to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just >> getting >> scammed? >> >> thanks. >> >> -Tin >> > > |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message news:FPgRh.5944$bM1.204@trnddc03... > > "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com... >> Hi, >> >> I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The >> mechanic >> just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so >> he must >> replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace >> platinum >> plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge) >> and >> wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend >> to keep >> the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm >> inclined >> to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just >> getting >> scammed? >> >> thanks. >> >> -Tin >> > > > It may or may not be a load of crap. It doesn't matter what he found, it > only matters what the design calls for. I don't know what they designed > for that motor, but my 258 (4.2L, sotrta) just takes standard plugs. I > can't imagine your 4.0L requires platinum plugs, I suspect a previous > owner put them in, or if you are the previous onwer then a shop installed > them for you for any number of reasons. > > What I can say with certainty is that if you need high performance plugs, > and you get standard plugs, the motor won't run worth a ----. > > I once owned a brand spanking new GM car with a High Output (quotes needed > there) 2.8L V6 that -- I swear to God -- could not get out of its own way. > Well, by and by I decided to replace the spark plugs because it was time. > I went to the corner store and they looked up in the catalog, and came > back with the "right" plugs. I installed them, and went for a test drive > on the main drag in my town. Not only couldn't I get out of my own way, I > became serious problem to the general population also using the main drag. > I got back to my driveway, and checked EVERYTHING. Yes, everything. I had > to take the car to the local tune up shop, and the guy pulled a plug and > reported, "here's your trouble." It turns out the plug requirement was for > some Hot-Snot Copper Core something or other, but all I had was regular > snot. I took the regular snot and the mechanic's bill to the auto parts > store, but all I got back was the cost for the crappy plugs. > > The moral of the story is, you might need hot-snot spark plugs, in which > case you should get them. I think you can use the regular snot plugs > though, and save several dollars. > Are you sure you didn't get a set of Bosh plugs the first time ? The only difference between regular plugs and platnium plugs, ( besides the plantinums costing 4-6 times more) is the plantinum plugs last longer. Regular plugs will last about 30,000 miles. The plantinums will go to between 60,000 and 80,000 miles. There is no difference in performance. |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message news:FPgRh.5944$bM1.204@trnddc03... > > "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com... >> Hi, >> >> I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The >> mechanic >> just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so >> he must >> replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace >> platinum >> plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge) >> and >> wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend >> to keep >> the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm >> inclined >> to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just >> getting >> scammed? >> >> thanks. >> >> -Tin >> > > > It may or may not be a load of crap. It doesn't matter what he found, it > only matters what the design calls for. I don't know what they designed > for that motor, but my 258 (4.2L, sotrta) just takes standard plugs. I > can't imagine your 4.0L requires platinum plugs, I suspect a previous > owner put them in, or if you are the previous onwer then a shop installed > them for you for any number of reasons. > > What I can say with certainty is that if you need high performance plugs, > and you get standard plugs, the motor won't run worth a ----. > > I once owned a brand spanking new GM car with a High Output (quotes needed > there) 2.8L V6 that -- I swear to God -- could not get out of its own way. > Well, by and by I decided to replace the spark plugs because it was time. > I went to the corner store and they looked up in the catalog, and came > back with the "right" plugs. I installed them, and went for a test drive > on the main drag in my town. Not only couldn't I get out of my own way, I > became serious problem to the general population also using the main drag. > I got back to my driveway, and checked EVERYTHING. Yes, everything. I had > to take the car to the local tune up shop, and the guy pulled a plug and > reported, "here's your trouble." It turns out the plug requirement was for > some Hot-Snot Copper Core something or other, but all I had was regular > snot. I took the regular snot and the mechanic's bill to the auto parts > store, but all I got back was the cost for the crappy plugs. > > The moral of the story is, you might need hot-snot spark plugs, in which > case you should get them. I think you can use the regular snot plugs > though, and save several dollars. > Are you sure you didn't get a set of Bosh plugs the first time ? The only difference between regular plugs and platnium plugs, ( besides the plantinums costing 4-6 times more) is the plantinum plugs last longer. Regular plugs will last about 30,000 miles. The plantinums will go to between 60,000 and 80,000 miles. There is no difference in performance. |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message news:FPgRh.5944$bM1.204@trnddc03... > > "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com... >> Hi, >> >> I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The >> mechanic >> just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so >> he must >> replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace >> platinum >> plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge) >> and >> wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend >> to keep >> the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm >> inclined >> to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just >> getting >> scammed? >> >> thanks. >> >> -Tin >> > > > It may or may not be a load of crap. It doesn't matter what he found, it > only matters what the design calls for. I don't know what they designed > for that motor, but my 258 (4.2L, sotrta) just takes standard plugs. I > can't imagine your 4.0L requires platinum plugs, I suspect a previous > owner put them in, or if you are the previous onwer then a shop installed > them for you for any number of reasons. > > What I can say with certainty is that if you need high performance plugs, > and you get standard plugs, the motor won't run worth a ----. > > I once owned a brand spanking new GM car with a High Output (quotes needed > there) 2.8L V6 that -- I swear to God -- could not get out of its own way. > Well, by and by I decided to replace the spark plugs because it was time. > I went to the corner store and they looked up in the catalog, and came > back with the "right" plugs. I installed them, and went for a test drive > on the main drag in my town. Not only couldn't I get out of my own way, I > became serious problem to the general population also using the main drag. > I got back to my driveway, and checked EVERYTHING. Yes, everything. I had > to take the car to the local tune up shop, and the guy pulled a plug and > reported, "here's your trouble." It turns out the plug requirement was for > some Hot-Snot Copper Core something or other, but all I had was regular > snot. I took the regular snot and the mechanic's bill to the auto parts > store, but all I got back was the cost for the crappy plugs. > > The moral of the story is, you might need hot-snot spark plugs, in which > case you should get them. I think you can use the regular snot plugs > though, and save several dollars. > Are you sure you didn't get a set of Bosh plugs the first time ? The only difference between regular plugs and platnium plugs, ( besides the plantinums costing 4-6 times more) is the plantinum plugs last longer. Regular plugs will last about 30,000 miles. The plantinums will go to between 60,000 and 80,000 miles. There is no difference in performance. |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message news:qWgRh.5945$bM1.1484@trnddc03... > > "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1175812171.360267.184210@l77g2000hsb.googlegr oups.com... >> >> Thanks, Doug. I'm just going to insist he replace them with regular >> plugs and I'll take the *chance* of the engine blowing up :) >> >> thx. >> >> -Tin > > > There's no danger of the motor blowing up. It just won't run well. > The platinum plugs will last longer but there will be no difference in the way the engine runs no matter which plug is used. |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message news:qWgRh.5945$bM1.1484@trnddc03... > > "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1175812171.360267.184210@l77g2000hsb.googlegr oups.com... >> >> Thanks, Doug. I'm just going to insist he replace them with regular >> plugs and I'll take the *chance* of the engine blowing up :) >> >> thx. >> >> -Tin > > > There's no danger of the motor blowing up. It just won't run well. > The platinum plugs will last longer but there will be no difference in the way the engine runs no matter which plug is used. |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message news:qWgRh.5945$bM1.1484@trnddc03... > > "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1175812171.360267.184210@l77g2000hsb.googlegr oups.com... >> >> Thanks, Doug. I'm just going to insist he replace them with regular >> plugs and I'll take the *chance* of the engine blowing up :) >> >> thx. >> >> -Tin > > > There's no danger of the motor blowing up. It just won't run well. > The platinum plugs will last longer but there will be no difference in the way the engine runs no matter which plug is used. |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
Mike wrote:
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > news:80f04$461598e4$4831bf01$755@FUSE.NET... >> That engine came from the factory with copper Champions as your >> 'mechanic' well knows. >> >> If you have had no drivability problems with the Platinums (I >> haven't in 3 Jeeps) you can continue with them but be advised Bosch >> Platinums RETAIL for less than $2.50 each. >> > > Bosh spark plugs are junk. I wouldn't put them in a lawn mower. > Every time I have seen a car with driveability problems due to bad > spark plugs they have always been Bosh. Autolite is what I use. Tried Campion but they look sorta cheap side-by-side with the Autolites. Either way, changing plugs every couple of oil changes lets me keep an eye on the engines internals. -- -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge! |
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Mike wrote:
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > news:80f04$461598e4$4831bf01$755@FUSE.NET... >> That engine came from the factory with copper Champions as your >> 'mechanic' well knows. >> >> If you have had no drivability problems with the Platinums (I >> haven't in 3 Jeeps) you can continue with them but be advised Bosch >> Platinums RETAIL for less than $2.50 each. >> > > Bosh spark plugs are junk. I wouldn't put them in a lawn mower. > Every time I have seen a car with driveability problems due to bad > spark plugs they have always been Bosh. Autolite is what I use. Tried Campion but they look sorta cheap side-by-side with the Autolites. Either way, changing plugs every couple of oil changes lets me keep an eye on the engines internals. -- -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge! |
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Mike wrote:
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > news:80f04$461598e4$4831bf01$755@FUSE.NET... >> That engine came from the factory with copper Champions as your >> 'mechanic' well knows. >> >> If you have had no drivability problems with the Platinums (I >> haven't in 3 Jeeps) you can continue with them but be advised Bosch >> Platinums RETAIL for less than $2.50 each. >> > > Bosh spark plugs are junk. I wouldn't put them in a lawn mower. > Every time I have seen a car with driveability problems due to bad > spark plugs they have always been Bosh. Autolite is what I use. Tried Campion but they look sorta cheap side-by-side with the Autolites. Either way, changing plugs every couple of oil changes lets me keep an eye on the engines internals. -- -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge! |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
Jeeps seem to prefer low tech copper plugs for some reason,
I've not had a problem with Bosch Platinum plugs in the 25+ years I've used them but maybe I was just lucky. "Mike" <mik@localnet.com> wrote in message news:WiiRh.6163$B25.5497@news01.roc.ny... > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > news:80f04$461598e4$4831bf01$755@FUSE.NET... >> That engine came from the factory with copper Champions as your >> 'mechanic' well knows. >> >> If you have had no drivability problems with the Platinums (I haven't in >> 3 Jeeps) you can continue with them but be advised Bosch Platinums RETAIL >> for less than $2.50 each. >> > > Bosh spark plugs are junk. I wouldn't put them in a lawn mower. Every > time I have seen a car with driveability problems due to bad spark plugs > they have always been Bosh. > > >> >> "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com... >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The >>> mechanic >>> just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so >>> he must >>> replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace >>> platinum >>> plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge) >>> and >>> wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend >>> to keep >>> the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm >>> inclined >>> to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just >>> getting >>> scammed? >>> >>> thanks. >>> >>> -Tin >>> >> >> > > |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
Jeeps seem to prefer low tech copper plugs for some reason,
I've not had a problem with Bosch Platinum plugs in the 25+ years I've used them but maybe I was just lucky. "Mike" <mik@localnet.com> wrote in message news:WiiRh.6163$B25.5497@news01.roc.ny... > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > news:80f04$461598e4$4831bf01$755@FUSE.NET... >> That engine came from the factory with copper Champions as your >> 'mechanic' well knows. >> >> If you have had no drivability problems with the Platinums (I haven't in >> 3 Jeeps) you can continue with them but be advised Bosch Platinums RETAIL >> for less than $2.50 each. >> > > Bosh spark plugs are junk. I wouldn't put them in a lawn mower. Every > time I have seen a car with driveability problems due to bad spark plugs > they have always been Bosh. > > >> >> "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com... >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The >>> mechanic >>> just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so >>> he must >>> replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace >>> platinum >>> plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge) >>> and >>> wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend >>> to keep >>> the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm >>> inclined >>> to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just >>> getting >>> scammed? >>> >>> thanks. >>> >>> -Tin >>> >> >> > > |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
Jeeps seem to prefer low tech copper plugs for some reason,
I've not had a problem with Bosch Platinum plugs in the 25+ years I've used them but maybe I was just lucky. "Mike" <mik@localnet.com> wrote in message news:WiiRh.6163$B25.5497@news01.roc.ny... > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > news:80f04$461598e4$4831bf01$755@FUSE.NET... >> That engine came from the factory with copper Champions as your >> 'mechanic' well knows. >> >> If you have had no drivability problems with the Platinums (I haven't in >> 3 Jeeps) you can continue with them but be advised Bosch Platinums RETAIL >> for less than $2.50 each. >> > > Bosh spark plugs are junk. I wouldn't put them in a lawn mower. Every > time I have seen a car with driveability problems due to bad spark plugs > they have always been Bosh. > > >> >> "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com... >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The >>> mechanic >>> just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so >>> he must >>> replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace >>> platinum >>> plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge) >>> and >>> wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend >>> to keep >>> the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm >>> inclined >>> to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just >>> getting >>> scammed? >>> >>> thanks. >>> >>> -Tin >>> >> >> > > |
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My '00 Sport came with and calls for Champion standard copper-core plugs. I can't imagine a model year older vehicle requiring the platinum plugs. Agree with whats already been posted; it doesn't matter what the guy found, it's what the proper plug is that counts. Check theunderhood decal or, if you have the owners manual, I'll bet you'll find the plug type listed in there. Sounds to me like this guy just wants to gouge you on a set of plugs you don't need. mike 00XJ |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
My '00 Sport came with and calls for Champion standard copper-core plugs. I can't imagine a model year older vehicle requiring the platinum plugs. Agree with whats already been posted; it doesn't matter what the guy found, it's what the proper plug is that counts. Check theunderhood decal or, if you have the owners manual, I'll bet you'll find the plug type listed in there. Sounds to me like this guy just wants to gouge you on a set of plugs you don't need. mike 00XJ |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
My '00 Sport came with and calls for Champion standard copper-core plugs. I can't imagine a model year older vehicle requiring the platinum plugs. Agree with whats already been posted; it doesn't matter what the guy found, it's what the proper plug is that counts. Check theunderhood decal or, if you have the owners manual, I'll bet you'll find the plug type listed in there. Sounds to me like this guy just wants to gouge you on a set of plugs you don't need. mike 00XJ |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
Mike wrote:
> Are you sure you didn't get a set of Bosh plugs the first time ? The only > difference between regular plugs and platnium plugs, ( besides the > plantinums costing 4-6 times more) is the plantinum plugs last longer. > Regular plugs will last about 30,000 miles. The plantinums will go to > between 60,000 and 80,000 miles. There is no difference in performance. > > > Got news for ya. Lots of Jeep I6 engines will not run for ---- on Bosch platinum plugs. Too many folks get suckered by the hype and figure more expensive must be better eh. I have easily fixed many bad idle issues by simply tossing the fancy expensive plugs in the trash while replacing them with cheap Champions. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
Mike wrote:
> Are you sure you didn't get a set of Bosh plugs the first time ? The only > difference between regular plugs and platnium plugs, ( besides the > plantinums costing 4-6 times more) is the plantinum plugs last longer. > Regular plugs will last about 30,000 miles. The plantinums will go to > between 60,000 and 80,000 miles. There is no difference in performance. > > > Got news for ya. Lots of Jeep I6 engines will not run for ---- on Bosch platinum plugs. Too many folks get suckered by the hype and figure more expensive must be better eh. I have easily fixed many bad idle issues by simply tossing the fancy expensive plugs in the trash while replacing them with cheap Champions. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: Replacing spark plugs
Mike wrote:
> Are you sure you didn't get a set of Bosh plugs the first time ? The only > difference between regular plugs and platnium plugs, ( besides the > plantinums costing 4-6 times more) is the plantinum plugs last longer. > Regular plugs will last about 30,000 miles. The plantinums will go to > between 60,000 and 80,000 miles. There is no difference in performance. > > > Got news for ya. Lots of Jeep I6 engines will not run for ---- on Bosch platinum plugs. Too many folks get suckered by the hype and figure more expensive must be better eh. I have easily fixed many bad idle issues by simply tossing the fancy expensive plugs in the trash while replacing them with cheap Champions. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
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