Replace Front Brake on TJ
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Re: Replace Front Brake on TJ
I just bevel the leading edge, but now many pads seem to come like that new.
Also, rough them up against the pavement to deglaze them and make them bed
in a bit faster...
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Hi Joe,
Some use silicone to dampen any
> squeal. Always use the a major brand of pads, like:
> http://www.raybestos.com/usa/brakepads.htm Pictures:
> http://www.allpar.com/fix/Brakes.html Factory Service Manual pages:
> http://www.----------.com/97TJfrontdisk.pdf
> Also remember how the anti squeal clips go, if they're still there:
> http://www.----------.com/WJCaliber.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
Also, rough them up against the pavement to deglaze them and make them bed
in a bit faster...
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:425B0D6D.6220CF1@***.net...
> Hi Joe,
Some use silicone to dampen any
> squeal. Always use the a major brand of pads, like:
> http://www.raybestos.com/usa/brakepads.htm Pictures:
> http://www.allpar.com/fix/Brakes.html Factory Service Manual pages:
> http://www.----------.com/97TJfrontdisk.pdf
> Also remember how the anti squeal clips go, if they're still there:
> http://www.----------.com/WJCaliber.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
#72
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Re: Replace Front Brake on TJ
Bingo.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I just bevel the leading edge, but now many pads seem to come like that new.
> Also, rough them up against the pavement to deglaze them and make them bed
> in a bit faster...
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I just bevel the leading edge, but now many pads seem to come like that new.
> Also, rough them up against the pavement to deglaze them and make them bed
> in a bit faster...
#73
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Re: Replace Front Brake on TJ
Bingo.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I just bevel the leading edge, but now many pads seem to come like that new.
> Also, rough them up against the pavement to deglaze them and make them bed
> in a bit faster...
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I just bevel the leading edge, but now many pads seem to come like that new.
> Also, rough them up against the pavement to deglaze them and make them bed
> in a bit faster...
#74
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Re: Replace Front Brake on TJ
Bingo.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I just bevel the leading edge, but now many pads seem to come like that new.
> Also, rough them up against the pavement to deglaze them and make them bed
> in a bit faster...
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I just bevel the leading edge, but now many pads seem to come like that new.
> Also, rough them up against the pavement to deglaze them and make them bed
> in a bit faster...
#75
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Re: Replace Front Brake on TJ
Bingo.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I just bevel the leading edge, but now many pads seem to come like that new.
> Also, rough them up against the pavement to deglaze them and make them bed
> in a bit faster...
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I just bevel the leading edge, but now many pads seem to come like that new.
> Also, rough them up against the pavement to deglaze them and make them bed
> in a bit faster...
#76
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Re: Replace Front Brake on TJ, Done!!!
Hello everyone, I'd like to thank all that replay to my message. I did get
the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
(this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the instructions
given by you guys.
I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what the
Canadian winter does to them...
When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's side)
are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on them) I
guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I didn't
think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm that
heavy :)...
Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside pad
on the passenger side.
Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page that
tells me how to service/replace them?
Thanks again!
Joe.
"GA" <gg@gg.ca> wrote in message
news:4ZC6e.2650$MZ2.416180@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> Hello everyone,
>
> I have to replace the front brakes on my 97 Jeep TJ and I thought I would
> ask for some help here. I have never done it before but I was thinking if
> it's not too difficult I might tackle this myself... so do you know of any
> kind of guide or manual I could follow? Also how difficult do you think
it
> is?
> What's a reasonable price if I get it done at a garage or dealership? (I
> live in Ontario...)
>
> Thanks to all for your input.
> Joe.
>
>
the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
(this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the instructions
given by you guys.
I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what the
Canadian winter does to them...
When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's side)
are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on them) I
guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I didn't
think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm that
heavy :)...
Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside pad
on the passenger side.
Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page that
tells me how to service/replace them?
Thanks again!
Joe.
"GA" <gg@gg.ca> wrote in message
news:4ZC6e.2650$MZ2.416180@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> Hello everyone,
>
> I have to replace the front brakes on my 97 Jeep TJ and I thought I would
> ask for some help here. I have never done it before but I was thinking if
> it's not too difficult I might tackle this myself... so do you know of any
> kind of guide or manual I could follow? Also how difficult do you think
it
> is?
> What's a reasonable price if I get it done at a garage or dealership? (I
> live in Ontario...)
>
> Thanks to all for your input.
> Joe.
>
>
#77
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Re: Replace Front Brake on TJ, Done!!!
Hello everyone, I'd like to thank all that replay to my message. I did get
the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
(this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the instructions
given by you guys.
I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what the
Canadian winter does to them...
When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's side)
are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on them) I
guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I didn't
think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm that
heavy :)...
Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside pad
on the passenger side.
Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page that
tells me how to service/replace them?
Thanks again!
Joe.
"GA" <gg@gg.ca> wrote in message
news:4ZC6e.2650$MZ2.416180@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> Hello everyone,
>
> I have to replace the front brakes on my 97 Jeep TJ and I thought I would
> ask for some help here. I have never done it before but I was thinking if
> it's not too difficult I might tackle this myself... so do you know of any
> kind of guide or manual I could follow? Also how difficult do you think
it
> is?
> What's a reasonable price if I get it done at a garage or dealership? (I
> live in Ontario...)
>
> Thanks to all for your input.
> Joe.
>
>
the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
(this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the instructions
given by you guys.
I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what the
Canadian winter does to them...
When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's side)
are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on them) I
guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I didn't
think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm that
heavy :)...
Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside pad
on the passenger side.
Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page that
tells me how to service/replace them?
Thanks again!
Joe.
"GA" <gg@gg.ca> wrote in message
news:4ZC6e.2650$MZ2.416180@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> Hello everyone,
>
> I have to replace the front brakes on my 97 Jeep TJ and I thought I would
> ask for some help here. I have never done it before but I was thinking if
> it's not too difficult I might tackle this myself... so do you know of any
> kind of guide or manual I could follow? Also how difficult do you think
it
> is?
> What's a reasonable price if I get it done at a garage or dealership? (I
> live in Ontario...)
>
> Thanks to all for your input.
> Joe.
>
>
#78
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Re: Replace Front Brake on TJ, Done!!!
Hello everyone, I'd like to thank all that replay to my message. I did get
the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
(this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the instructions
given by you guys.
I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what the
Canadian winter does to them...
When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's side)
are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on them) I
guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I didn't
think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm that
heavy :)...
Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside pad
on the passenger side.
Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page that
tells me how to service/replace them?
Thanks again!
Joe.
"GA" <gg@gg.ca> wrote in message
news:4ZC6e.2650$MZ2.416180@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> Hello everyone,
>
> I have to replace the front brakes on my 97 Jeep TJ and I thought I would
> ask for some help here. I have never done it before but I was thinking if
> it's not too difficult I might tackle this myself... so do you know of any
> kind of guide or manual I could follow? Also how difficult do you think
it
> is?
> What's a reasonable price if I get it done at a garage or dealership? (I
> live in Ontario...)
>
> Thanks to all for your input.
> Joe.
>
>
the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
(this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the instructions
given by you guys.
I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what the
Canadian winter does to them...
When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's side)
are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on them) I
guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I didn't
think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm that
heavy :)...
Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside pad
on the passenger side.
Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page that
tells me how to service/replace them?
Thanks again!
Joe.
"GA" <gg@gg.ca> wrote in message
news:4ZC6e.2650$MZ2.416180@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> Hello everyone,
>
> I have to replace the front brakes on my 97 Jeep TJ and I thought I would
> ask for some help here. I have never done it before but I was thinking if
> it's not too difficult I might tackle this myself... so do you know of any
> kind of guide or manual I could follow? Also how difficult do you think
it
> is?
> What's a reasonable price if I get it done at a garage or dealership? (I
> live in Ontario...)
>
> Thanks to all for your input.
> Joe.
>
>
#79
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Re: Replace Front Brake on TJ, Done!!!
Hello everyone, I'd like to thank all that replay to my message. I did get
the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
(this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the instructions
given by you guys.
I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what the
Canadian winter does to them...
When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's side)
are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on them) I
guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I didn't
think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm that
heavy :)...
Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside pad
on the passenger side.
Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page that
tells me how to service/replace them?
Thanks again!
Joe.
"GA" <gg@gg.ca> wrote in message
news:4ZC6e.2650$MZ2.416180@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> Hello everyone,
>
> I have to replace the front brakes on my 97 Jeep TJ and I thought I would
> ask for some help here. I have never done it before but I was thinking if
> it's not too difficult I might tackle this myself... so do you know of any
> kind of guide or manual I could follow? Also how difficult do you think
it
> is?
> What's a reasonable price if I get it done at a garage or dealership? (I
> live in Ontario...)
>
> Thanks to all for your input.
> Joe.
>
>
the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
(this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the instructions
given by you guys.
I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what the
Canadian winter does to them...
When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's side)
are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on them) I
guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I didn't
think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm that
heavy :)...
Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside pad
on the passenger side.
Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page that
tells me how to service/replace them?
Thanks again!
Joe.
"GA" <gg@gg.ca> wrote in message
news:4ZC6e.2650$MZ2.416180@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> Hello everyone,
>
> I have to replace the front brakes on my 97 Jeep TJ and I thought I would
> ask for some help here. I have never done it before but I was thinking if
> it's not too difficult I might tackle this myself... so do you know of any
> kind of guide or manual I could follow? Also how difficult do you think
it
> is?
> What's a reasonable price if I get it done at a garage or dealership? (I
> live in Ontario...)
>
> Thanks to all for your input.
> Joe.
>
>
#80
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Re: Replace Front Brake on TJ, Done!!!
GA did pass the time by typing:
> Hello everyone, I'd like to thank all that replay to my message. I did get
> the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
> (this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the instructions
> given by you guys.
The side benefit of doing it yourself is the toys you can afford with the
money you save. Like jack stands, jacks, shiny metal tools..mmm shiny tools...
> I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
> I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what the
> Canadian winter does to them...
Anyplace in the salt belt.
> When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's side)
> are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on them) I
> guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I didn't
> think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm that
> heavy :)...
Both left and right should wear fairly evenly.
> Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
> inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
> calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside pad
> on the passenger side.
That tells me the two pins that the calipers slide on may have some grooves or
rust on them. One pad will wear a bit more than the other but if you can see
the difference I'd replace those pins. Remember to put a bit of lube on the
new ones.
> Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
> done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
> replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page that
> tells me how to service/replace them?
Dunno.. you got drums or discs?
Discs are almost identical to the front except inside the "hat" there
is the emergency brake shoe.
Drums are a bit more complex than discs, more fiddly bits and springs
that go sproing. But nothing you couldn't do. It also helps if you have
a drum brake tool (looks like a wierd set of pliars)
--
DougW
> Hello everyone, I'd like to thank all that replay to my message. I did get
> the job done and I did it myself. I spent about $200 (Canadian) in parts
> (this included a pair of 6-ton jack stands) and I followed the instructions
> given by you guys.
The side benefit of doing it yourself is the toys you can afford with the
money you save. Like jack stands, jacks, shiny metal tools..mmm shiny tools...
> I got to say it feels pretty good... and the brakes work great!
> I couldn't believe the rust on the old rotors but I guess that's what the
> Canadian winter does to them...
Anyplace in the salt belt.
> When I examined the brake pads I noticed that the left ones (driver's side)
> are in worst shape than the right ones (pretty much nothing left on them) I
> guess it's because most of the time it's just me in the jeep...but I didn't
> think my weight could make a difference like that... I don't think I'm that
> heavy :)...
Both left and right should wear fairly evenly.
> Also I noticed that on both sides the outside pad is more worn than the
> inside pad. Does this tell you anything? Is there a problem with the
> calipers? The only pad that had some groves left in it was the inside pad
> on the passenger side.
That tells me the two pins that the calipers slide on may have some grooves or
rust on them. One pad will wear a bit more than the other but if you can see
the difference I'd replace those pins. Remember to put a bit of lube on the
new ones.
> Since I'm at it... how about the back brakes? When I had the inspection
> done they told me they need to be serviced... $85 for it, no parts to be
> replaced. What does the servicing consist of? Any manual or web page that
> tells me how to service/replace them?
Dunno.. you got drums or discs?
Discs are almost identical to the front except inside the "hat" there
is the emergency brake shoe.
Drums are a bit more complex than discs, more fiddly bits and springs
that go sproing. But nothing you couldn't do. It also helps if you have
a drum brake tool (looks like a wierd set of pliars)
--
DougW