Mike Romain

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Retiredff wrote:
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > ROTFLMAO!
> > >
> > > Wow!
> > >
> > > The fuel filter on the 258 is supposed to be changed every year or
> > > more often if you drive in mud and dusty off road.
> > >
> > > I 'usually' can get a year out of them, but I always carry a spare
> > > under the seat.
> > >
> > > The filter has two outlets and sits up by the carb. The center outlet
> > > goes to the carb and the 'top' outlet goes to the return line. The
> > > return line must be at the top or gas will syphon back to the tank
> > > when it sits causing real 'bad' cold start issues.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Retiredff wrote:
> > >>
> > >> L.W. (ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > >>> Along with a new fuel pump, buy a new filter located inside the
> > >>> frame rail, on the drivers side above the front half of the spring.
> > >>> There's a shield you have to remove to get to it.
> > >>
> > >> I thought that filter was only on the fuel injected motors, Bill.
> > >> Can anyone confirm this? If it is there, then it has never been
> > >> replaced (16 years and 309,000 miles), and I can see that it might
> > >> present a problem.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> >
> > I don't think the fuel filter is the problem. Its been replaced three times
> > over the last three years, last time just a few months ago. And, it is on
> > the correct way.
> >
> > The worst part is that the Jeep is sitting 30 or so miles from home, and I
> > can't get to until Saturday to even try to figure it out.
>
> Ahh, so you 'have' changed the filter!
>
> Man the thought of someone getting away with 300K miles on a 258 gas
> filter was just too funny...
>
> Those filters are a pain. They plug up a lot on me because I get dust
> and mud around my gas cap. Some falls in the tank every time I open the
> cap and makes it's way to the filter.
>
> If it is the pump going bad, change suppliers, that one has a bad run of
> pumps.
>
> Mike

One other thing to watch is for a plugged up air filter on the gas tank
which will do a nasty imitation of running out of gas.

The tank can build up a vacuum and the carb up and runs out of gas. If
you crack the gas cap open and it starts back up that would be the
trouble. It is a $2.00 filter that fits on the bottom of the charcoal
canister.

Mike

Retiredff

> One other thing to watch is for a plugged up air filter on the gas
> tank which will do a nasty imitation of running out of gas.
>
> The tank can build up a vacuum and the carb up and runs out of gas.
> If you crack the gas cap open and it starts back up that would be the
> trouble. It is a $2.00 filter that fits on the bottom of the charcoal
> canister.
>
> Mike

Good point. Replaced recently. But, that would not explain the sudden dying,
refusel to start unless gas is poured into carb and then dying after that
gas burns up, and then starting and driving like there was nothing wrong
with in.

The only thing that makes sense to me is that there was something in the
filter that clogged it, then dropped down and out of the way after it sat
awhile.

Retiredff

> One other thing to watch is for a plugged up air filter on the gas
> tank which will do a nasty imitation of running out of gas.
>
> The tank can build up a vacuum and the carb up and runs out of gas.
> If you crack the gas cap open and it starts back up that would be the
> trouble. It is a $2.00 filter that fits on the bottom of the charcoal
> canister.
>
> Mike

Good point. Replaced recently. But, that would not explain the sudden dying,
refusel to start unless gas is poured into carb and then dying after that
gas burns up, and then starting and driving like there was nothing wrong
with in.

The only thing that makes sense to me is that there was something in the
filter that clogged it, then dropped down and out of the way after it sat
awhile.

Retiredff

> One other thing to watch is for a plugged up air filter on the gas
> tank which will do a nasty imitation of running out of gas.
>
> The tank can build up a vacuum and the carb up and runs out of gas.
> If you crack the gas cap open and it starts back up that would be the
> trouble. It is a $2.00 filter that fits on the bottom of the charcoal
> canister.
>
> Mike

Good point. Replaced recently. But, that would not explain the sudden dying,
refusel to start unless gas is poured into carb and then dying after that
gas burns up, and then starting and driving like there was nothing wrong
with in.

The only thing that makes sense to me is that there was something in the
filter that clogged it, then dropped down and out of the way after it sat
awhile.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Mike,
That little shield they put over them, makes it an out of sight,
out of mind. My '89 Thunderbird made it a hundred thousand, before it
cooked the pump. A lesson well learned.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Ahh, so you 'have' changed the filter!
>
> Man the thought of someone getting away with 300K miles on a 258 gas
> filter was just too funny...
>
> Those filters are a pain. They plug up a lot on me because I get dust
> and mud around my gas cap. Some falls in the tank every time I open the
> cap and makes it's way to the filter.
>
> If it is the pump going bad, change suppliers, that one has a bad run of
> pumps.
>
> Mike

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Mike,
That little shield they put over them, makes it an out of sight,
out of mind. My '89 Thunderbird made it a hundred thousand, before it
cooked the pump. A lesson well learned.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Ahh, so you 'have' changed the filter!
>
> Man the thought of someone getting away with 300K miles on a 258 gas
> filter was just too funny...
>
> Those filters are a pain. They plug up a lot on me because I get dust
> and mud around my gas cap. Some falls in the tank every time I open the
> cap and makes it's way to the filter.
>
> If it is the pump going bad, change suppliers, that one has a bad run of
> pumps.
>
> Mike

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Mike,
That little shield they put over them, makes it an out of sight,
out of mind. My '89 Thunderbird made it a hundred thousand, before it
cooked the pump. A lesson well learned.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Ahh, so you 'have' changed the filter!
>
> Man the thought of someone getting away with 300K miles on a 258 gas
> filter was just too funny...
>
> Those filters are a pain. They plug up a lot on me because I get dust
> and mud around my gas cap. Some falls in the tank every time I open the
> cap and makes it's way to the filter.
>
> If it is the pump going bad, change suppliers, that one has a bad run of
> pumps.
>
> Mike

Mike Romain

Retiredff wrote:
>
> > One other thing to watch is for a plugged up air filter on the gas
> > tank which will do a nasty imitation of running out of gas.
> >
> > The tank can build up a vacuum and the carb up and runs out of gas.
> > If you crack the gas cap open and it starts back up that would be the
> > trouble. It is a $2.00 filter that fits on the bottom of the charcoal
> > canister.
> >
> > Mike
>
> Good point. Replaced recently. But, that would not explain the sudden dying,
> refusel to start unless gas is poured into carb and then dying after that
> gas burns up, and then starting and driving like there was nothing wrong
> with in.
>
> The only thing that makes sense to me is that there was something in the
> filter that clogged it, then dropped down and out of the way after it sat
> awhile.


That would be a good easy way to start off.

Like i mentioned, I go through at least one filter a year. Went through
3 fast recently when I put a new used tank in. My 4th is sitting under
the seat waiting.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain

Retiredff wrote:
>
> > One other thing to watch is for a plugged up air filter on the gas
> > tank which will do a nasty imitation of running out of gas.
> >
> > The tank can build up a vacuum and the carb up and runs out of gas.
> > If you crack the gas cap open and it starts back up that would be the
> > trouble. It is a $2.00 filter that fits on the bottom of the charcoal
> > canister.
> >
> > Mike
>
> Good point. Replaced recently. But, that would not explain the sudden dying,
> refusel to start unless gas is poured into carb and then dying after that
> gas burns up, and then starting and driving like there was nothing wrong
> with in.
>
> The only thing that makes sense to me is that there was something in the
> filter that clogged it, then dropped down and out of the way after it sat
> awhile.


That would be a good easy way to start off.

Like i mentioned, I go through at least one filter a year. Went through
3 fast recently when I put a new used tank in. My 4th is sitting under
the seat waiting.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain

Retiredff wrote:
>
> > One other thing to watch is for a plugged up air filter on the gas
> > tank which will do a nasty imitation of running out of gas.
> >
> > The tank can build up a vacuum and the carb up and runs out of gas.
> > If you crack the gas cap open and it starts back up that would be the
> > trouble. It is a $2.00 filter that fits on the bottom of the charcoal
> > canister.
> >
> > Mike
>
> Good point. Replaced recently. But, that would not explain the sudden dying,
> refusel to start unless gas is poured into carb and then dying after that
> gas burns up, and then starting and driving like there was nothing wrong
> with in.
>
> The only thing that makes sense to me is that there was something in the
> filter that clogged it, then dropped down and out of the way after it sat
> awhile.


That would be a good easy way to start off.

Like i mentioned, I go through at least one filter a year. Went through
3 fast recently when I put a new used tank in. My 4th is sitting under
the seat waiting.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's