repeated fuel pump failures
09-24-2004, 10:12 AM
#21
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Re: repeated fuel pump failures
ROTFLMAO!
Wow!
The fuel filter on the 258 is supposed to be changed every year or more
often if you drive in mud and dusty off road.
I 'usually' can get a year out of them, but I always carry a spare under
the seat.
The filter has two outlets and sits up by the carb. The center outlet
goes to the carb and the 'top' outlet goes to the return line. The
return line must be at the top or gas will syphon back to the tank when
it sits causing real 'bad' cold start issues.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Retiredff wrote:
>
> L.W. (ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > Along with a new fuel pump, buy a new filter located inside the
> > frame rail, on the drivers side above the front half of the spring.
> > There's a shield you have to remove to get to it.
>
> I thought that filter was only on the fuel injected motors, Bill. Can anyone
> confirm this? If it is there, then it has never been replaced (16 years and
> 309,000 miles), and I can see that it might present a problem.
>
> Thanks
Wow!
The fuel filter on the 258 is supposed to be changed every year or more
often if you drive in mud and dusty off road.
I 'usually' can get a year out of them, but I always carry a spare under
the seat.
The filter has two outlets and sits up by the carb. The center outlet
goes to the carb and the 'top' outlet goes to the return line. The
return line must be at the top or gas will syphon back to the tank when
it sits causing real 'bad' cold start issues.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Retiredff wrote:
>
> L.W. (ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > Along with a new fuel pump, buy a new filter located inside the
> > frame rail, on the drivers side above the front half of the spring.
> > There's a shield you have to remove to get to it.
>
> I thought that filter was only on the fuel injected motors, Bill. Can anyone
> confirm this? If it is there, then it has never been replaced (16 years and
> 309,000 miles), and I can see that it might present a problem.
>
> Thanks
09-24-2004, 10:12 AM
#22
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Re: repeated fuel pump failures
ROTFLMAO!
Wow!
The fuel filter on the 258 is supposed to be changed every year or more
often if you drive in mud and dusty off road.
I 'usually' can get a year out of them, but I always carry a spare under
the seat.
The filter has two outlets and sits up by the carb. The center outlet
goes to the carb and the 'top' outlet goes to the return line. The
return line must be at the top or gas will syphon back to the tank when
it sits causing real 'bad' cold start issues.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Retiredff wrote:
>
> L.W. (ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > Along with a new fuel pump, buy a new filter located inside the
> > frame rail, on the drivers side above the front half of the spring.
> > There's a shield you have to remove to get to it.
>
> I thought that filter was only on the fuel injected motors, Bill. Can anyone
> confirm this? If it is there, then it has never been replaced (16 years and
> 309,000 miles), and I can see that it might present a problem.
>
> Thanks
Wow!
The fuel filter on the 258 is supposed to be changed every year or more
often if you drive in mud and dusty off road.
I 'usually' can get a year out of them, but I always carry a spare under
the seat.
The filter has two outlets and sits up by the carb. The center outlet
goes to the carb and the 'top' outlet goes to the return line. The
return line must be at the top or gas will syphon back to the tank when
it sits causing real 'bad' cold start issues.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Retiredff wrote:
>
> L.W. (ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > Along with a new fuel pump, buy a new filter located inside the
> > frame rail, on the drivers side above the front half of the spring.
> > There's a shield you have to remove to get to it.
>
> I thought that filter was only on the fuel injected motors, Bill. Can anyone
> confirm this? If it is there, then it has never been replaced (16 years and
> 309,000 miles), and I can see that it might present a problem.
>
> Thanks
09-24-2004, 11:30 AM
#23
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Re: repeated fuel pump failures
Mike Romain wrote:
> ROTFLMAO!
>
> Wow!
>
> The fuel filter on the 258 is supposed to be changed every year or
> more often if you drive in mud and dusty off road.
>
> I 'usually' can get a year out of them, but I always carry a spare
> under the seat.
>
> The filter has two outlets and sits up by the carb. The center outlet
> goes to the carb and the 'top' outlet goes to the return line. The
> return line must be at the top or gas will syphon back to the tank
> when it sits causing real 'bad' cold start issues.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Retiredff wrote:
>>
>> L.W. (ßill) ------ III wrote:
>>> Along with a new fuel pump, buy a new filter located inside the
>>> frame rail, on the drivers side above the front half of the spring.
>>> There's a shield you have to remove to get to it.
>>
>> I thought that filter was only on the fuel injected motors, Bill.
>> Can anyone confirm this? If it is there, then it has never been
>> replaced (16 years and 309,000 miles), and I can see that it might
>> present a problem.
>>
>> Thanks
I don't think the fuel filter is the problem. Its been replaced three times
over the last three years, last time just a few months ago. And, it is on
the correct way.
The worst part is that the Jeep is sitting 30 or so miles from home, and I
can't get to until Saturday to even try to figure it out.
09-24-2004, 11:30 AM
#24
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Re: repeated fuel pump failures
Mike Romain wrote:
> ROTFLMAO!
>
> Wow!
>
> The fuel filter on the 258 is supposed to be changed every year or
> more often if you drive in mud and dusty off road.
>
> I 'usually' can get a year out of them, but I always carry a spare
> under the seat.
>
> The filter has two outlets and sits up by the carb. The center outlet
> goes to the carb and the 'top' outlet goes to the return line. The
> return line must be at the top or gas will syphon back to the tank
> when it sits causing real 'bad' cold start issues.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Retiredff wrote:
>>
>> L.W. (ßill) ------ III wrote:
>>> Along with a new fuel pump, buy a new filter located inside the
>>> frame rail, on the drivers side above the front half of the spring.
>>> There's a shield you have to remove to get to it.
>>
>> I thought that filter was only on the fuel injected motors, Bill.
>> Can anyone confirm this? If it is there, then it has never been
>> replaced (16 years and 309,000 miles), and I can see that it might
>> present a problem.
>>
>> Thanks
I don't think the fuel filter is the problem. Its been replaced three times
over the last three years, last time just a few months ago. And, it is on
the correct way.
The worst part is that the Jeep is sitting 30 or so miles from home, and I
can't get to until Saturday to even try to figure it out.
09-24-2004, 11:30 AM
#25
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Re: repeated fuel pump failures
Mike Romain wrote:
> ROTFLMAO!
>
> Wow!
>
> The fuel filter on the 258 is supposed to be changed every year or
> more often if you drive in mud and dusty off road.
>
> I 'usually' can get a year out of them, but I always carry a spare
> under the seat.
>
> The filter has two outlets and sits up by the carb. The center outlet
> goes to the carb and the 'top' outlet goes to the return line. The
> return line must be at the top or gas will syphon back to the tank
> when it sits causing real 'bad' cold start issues.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Retiredff wrote:
>>
>> L.W. (ßill) ------ III wrote:
>>> Along with a new fuel pump, buy a new filter located inside the
>>> frame rail, on the drivers side above the front half of the spring.
>>> There's a shield you have to remove to get to it.
>>
>> I thought that filter was only on the fuel injected motors, Bill.
>> Can anyone confirm this? If it is there, then it has never been
>> replaced (16 years and 309,000 miles), and I can see that it might
>> present a problem.
>>
>> Thanks
I don't think the fuel filter is the problem. Its been replaced three times
over the last three years, last time just a few months ago. And, it is on
the correct way.
The worst part is that the Jeep is sitting 30 or so miles from home, and I
can't get to until Saturday to even try to figure it out.
09-26-2004, 10:52 AM
#26
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Re: repeated fuel pump failures
Retiredff wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > ROTFLMAO!
> >
> > Wow!
> >
> > The fuel filter on the 258 is supposed to be changed every year or
> > more often if you drive in mud and dusty off road.
> >
> > I 'usually' can get a year out of them, but I always carry a spare
> > under the seat.
> >
> > The filter has two outlets and sits up by the carb. The center outlet
> > goes to the carb and the 'top' outlet goes to the return line. The
> > return line must be at the top or gas will syphon back to the tank
> > when it sits causing real 'bad' cold start issues.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Retiredff wrote:
> >>
> >> L.W. (ßill) ------ III wrote:
> >>> Along with a new fuel pump, buy a new filter located inside the
> >>> frame rail, on the drivers side above the front half of the spring.
> >>> There's a shield you have to remove to get to it.
> >>
> >> I thought that filter was only on the fuel injected motors, Bill.
> >> Can anyone confirm this? If it is there, then it has never been
> >> replaced (16 years and 309,000 miles), and I can see that it might
> >> present a problem.
> >>
> >> Thanks
>
> I don't think the fuel filter is the problem. Its been replaced three times
> over the last three years, last time just a few months ago. And, it is on
> the correct way.
>
> The worst part is that the Jeep is sitting 30 or so miles from home, and I
> can't get to until Saturday to even try to figure it out.
Ahh, so you 'have' changed the filter!
Man the thought of someone getting away with 300K miles on a 258 gas
filter was just too funny...
Those filters are a pain. They plug up a lot on me because I get dust
and mud around my gas cap. Some falls in the tank every time I open the
cap and makes it's way to the filter.
If it is the pump going bad, change suppliers, that one has a bad run of
pumps.
Mike
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > ROTFLMAO!
> >
> > Wow!
> >
> > The fuel filter on the 258 is supposed to be changed every year or
> > more often if you drive in mud and dusty off road.
> >
> > I 'usually' can get a year out of them, but I always carry a spare
> > under the seat.
> >
> > The filter has two outlets and sits up by the carb. The center outlet
> > goes to the carb and the 'top' outlet goes to the return line. The
> > return line must be at the top or gas will syphon back to the tank
> > when it sits causing real 'bad' cold start issues.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Retiredff wrote:
> >>
> >> L.W. (ßill) ------ III wrote:
> >>> Along with a new fuel pump, buy a new filter located inside the
> >>> frame rail, on the drivers side above the front half of the spring.
> >>> There's a shield you have to remove to get to it.
> >>
> >> I thought that filter was only on the fuel injected motors, Bill.
> >> Can anyone confirm this? If it is there, then it has never been
> >> replaced (16 years and 309,000 miles), and I can see that it might
> >> present a problem.
> >>
> >> Thanks
>
> I don't think the fuel filter is the problem. Its been replaced three times
> over the last three years, last time just a few months ago. And, it is on
> the correct way.
>
> The worst part is that the Jeep is sitting 30 or so miles from home, and I
> can't get to until Saturday to even try to figure it out.
Ahh, so you 'have' changed the filter!
Man the thought of someone getting away with 300K miles on a 258 gas
filter was just too funny...
Those filters are a pain. They plug up a lot on me because I get dust
and mud around my gas cap. Some falls in the tank every time I open the
cap and makes it's way to the filter.
If it is the pump going bad, change suppliers, that one has a bad run of
pumps.
Mike
09-26-2004, 10:52 AM
#27
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Re: repeated fuel pump failures
Retiredff wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > ROTFLMAO!
> >
> > Wow!
> >
> > The fuel filter on the 258 is supposed to be changed every year or
> > more often if you drive in mud and dusty off road.
> >
> > I 'usually' can get a year out of them, but I always carry a spare
> > under the seat.
> >
> > The filter has two outlets and sits up by the carb. The center outlet
> > goes to the carb and the 'top' outlet goes to the return line. The
> > return line must be at the top or gas will syphon back to the tank
> > when it sits causing real 'bad' cold start issues.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Retiredff wrote:
> >>
> >> L.W. (ßill) ------ III wrote:
> >>> Along with a new fuel pump, buy a new filter located inside the
> >>> frame rail, on the drivers side above the front half of the spring.
> >>> There's a shield you have to remove to get to it.
> >>
> >> I thought that filter was only on the fuel injected motors, Bill.
> >> Can anyone confirm this? If it is there, then it has never been
> >> replaced (16 years and 309,000 miles), and I can see that it might
> >> present a problem.
> >>
> >> Thanks
>
> I don't think the fuel filter is the problem. Its been replaced three times
> over the last three years, last time just a few months ago. And, it is on
> the correct way.
>
> The worst part is that the Jeep is sitting 30 or so miles from home, and I
> can't get to until Saturday to even try to figure it out.
Ahh, so you 'have' changed the filter!
Man the thought of someone getting away with 300K miles on a 258 gas
filter was just too funny...
Those filters are a pain. They plug up a lot on me because I get dust
and mud around my gas cap. Some falls in the tank every time I open the
cap and makes it's way to the filter.
If it is the pump going bad, change suppliers, that one has a bad run of
pumps.
Mike
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > ROTFLMAO!
> >
> > Wow!
> >
> > The fuel filter on the 258 is supposed to be changed every year or
> > more often if you drive in mud and dusty off road.
> >
> > I 'usually' can get a year out of them, but I always carry a spare
> > under the seat.
> >
> > The filter has two outlets and sits up by the carb. The center outlet
> > goes to the carb and the 'top' outlet goes to the return line. The
> > return line must be at the top or gas will syphon back to the tank
> > when it sits causing real 'bad' cold start issues.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Retiredff wrote:
> >>
> >> L.W. (ßill) ------ III wrote:
> >>> Along with a new fuel pump, buy a new filter located inside the
> >>> frame rail, on the drivers side above the front half of the spring.
> >>> There's a shield you have to remove to get to it.
> >>
> >> I thought that filter was only on the fuel injected motors, Bill.
> >> Can anyone confirm this? If it is there, then it has never been
> >> replaced (16 years and 309,000 miles), and I can see that it might
> >> present a problem.
> >>
> >> Thanks
>
> I don't think the fuel filter is the problem. Its been replaced three times
> over the last three years, last time just a few months ago. And, it is on
> the correct way.
>
> The worst part is that the Jeep is sitting 30 or so miles from home, and I
> can't get to until Saturday to even try to figure it out.
Ahh, so you 'have' changed the filter!
Man the thought of someone getting away with 300K miles on a 258 gas
filter was just too funny...
Those filters are a pain. They plug up a lot on me because I get dust
and mud around my gas cap. Some falls in the tank every time I open the
cap and makes it's way to the filter.
If it is the pump going bad, change suppliers, that one has a bad run of
pumps.
Mike
09-26-2004, 10:52 AM
#28
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Re: repeated fuel pump failures
Retiredff wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > ROTFLMAO!
> >
> > Wow!
> >
> > The fuel filter on the 258 is supposed to be changed every year or
> > more often if you drive in mud and dusty off road.
> >
> > I 'usually' can get a year out of them, but I always carry a spare
> > under the seat.
> >
> > The filter has two outlets and sits up by the carb. The center outlet
> > goes to the carb and the 'top' outlet goes to the return line. The
> > return line must be at the top or gas will syphon back to the tank
> > when it sits causing real 'bad' cold start issues.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Retiredff wrote:
> >>
> >> L.W. (ßill) ------ III wrote:
> >>> Along with a new fuel pump, buy a new filter located inside the
> >>> frame rail, on the drivers side above the front half of the spring.
> >>> There's a shield you have to remove to get to it.
> >>
> >> I thought that filter was only on the fuel injected motors, Bill.
> >> Can anyone confirm this? If it is there, then it has never been
> >> replaced (16 years and 309,000 miles), and I can see that it might
> >> present a problem.
> >>
> >> Thanks
>
> I don't think the fuel filter is the problem. Its been replaced three times
> over the last three years, last time just a few months ago. And, it is on
> the correct way.
>
> The worst part is that the Jeep is sitting 30 or so miles from home, and I
> can't get to until Saturday to even try to figure it out.
Ahh, so you 'have' changed the filter!
Man the thought of someone getting away with 300K miles on a 258 gas
filter was just too funny...
Those filters are a pain. They plug up a lot on me because I get dust
and mud around my gas cap. Some falls in the tank every time I open the
cap and makes it's way to the filter.
If it is the pump going bad, change suppliers, that one has a bad run of
pumps.
Mike
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > ROTFLMAO!
> >
> > Wow!
> >
> > The fuel filter on the 258 is supposed to be changed every year or
> > more often if you drive in mud and dusty off road.
> >
> > I 'usually' can get a year out of them, but I always carry a spare
> > under the seat.
> >
> > The filter has two outlets and sits up by the carb. The center outlet
> > goes to the carb and the 'top' outlet goes to the return line. The
> > return line must be at the top or gas will syphon back to the tank
> > when it sits causing real 'bad' cold start issues.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Retiredff wrote:
> >>
> >> L.W. (ßill) ------ III wrote:
> >>> Along with a new fuel pump, buy a new filter located inside the
> >>> frame rail, on the drivers side above the front half of the spring.
> >>> There's a shield you have to remove to get to it.
> >>
> >> I thought that filter was only on the fuel injected motors, Bill.
> >> Can anyone confirm this? If it is there, then it has never been
> >> replaced (16 years and 309,000 miles), and I can see that it might
> >> present a problem.
> >>
> >> Thanks
>
> I don't think the fuel filter is the problem. Its been replaced three times
> over the last three years, last time just a few months ago. And, it is on
> the correct way.
>
> The worst part is that the Jeep is sitting 30 or so miles from home, and I
> can't get to until Saturday to even try to figure it out.
Ahh, so you 'have' changed the filter!
Man the thought of someone getting away with 300K miles on a 258 gas
filter was just too funny...
Those filters are a pain. They plug up a lot on me because I get dust
and mud around my gas cap. Some falls in the tank every time I open the
cap and makes it's way to the filter.
If it is the pump going bad, change suppliers, that one has a bad run of
pumps.
Mike
09-26-2004, 11:18 AM
#29
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: repeated fuel pump failures
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Retiredff wrote:
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > ROTFLMAO!
> > >
> > > Wow!
> > >
> > > The fuel filter on the 258 is supposed to be changed every year or
> > > more often if you drive in mud and dusty off road.
> > >
> > > I 'usually' can get a year out of them, but I always carry a spare
> > > under the seat.
> > >
> > > The filter has two outlets and sits up by the carb. The center outlet
> > > goes to the carb and the 'top' outlet goes to the return line. The
> > > return line must be at the top or gas will syphon back to the tank
> > > when it sits causing real 'bad' cold start issues.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Retiredff wrote:
> > >>
> > >> L.W. (ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > >>> Along with a new fuel pump, buy a new filter located inside the
> > >>> frame rail, on the drivers side above the front half of the spring.
> > >>> There's a shield you have to remove to get to it.
> > >>
> > >> I thought that filter was only on the fuel injected motors, Bill.
> > >> Can anyone confirm this? If it is there, then it has never been
> > >> replaced (16 years and 309,000 miles), and I can see that it might
> > >> present a problem.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> >
> > I don't think the fuel filter is the problem. Its been replaced three times
> > over the last three years, last time just a few months ago. And, it is on
> > the correct way.
> >
> > The worst part is that the Jeep is sitting 30 or so miles from home, and I
> > can't get to until Saturday to even try to figure it out.
>
> Ahh, so you 'have' changed the filter!
>
> Man the thought of someone getting away with 300K miles on a 258 gas
> filter was just too funny...
>
> Those filters are a pain. They plug up a lot on me because I get dust
> and mud around my gas cap. Some falls in the tank every time I open the
> cap and makes it's way to the filter.
>
> If it is the pump going bad, change suppliers, that one has a bad run of
> pumps.
>
> Mike
One other thing to watch is for a plugged up air filter on the gas tank
which will do a nasty imitation of running out of gas.
The tank can build up a vacuum and the carb up and runs out of gas. If
you crack the gas cap open and it starts back up that would be the
trouble. It is a $2.00 filter that fits on the bottom of the charcoal
canister.
Mike
>
> Retiredff wrote:
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > ROTFLMAO!
> > >
> > > Wow!
> > >
> > > The fuel filter on the 258 is supposed to be changed every year or
> > > more often if you drive in mud and dusty off road.
> > >
> > > I 'usually' can get a year out of them, but I always carry a spare
> > > under the seat.
> > >
> > > The filter has two outlets and sits up by the carb. The center outlet
> > > goes to the carb and the 'top' outlet goes to the return line. The
> > > return line must be at the top or gas will syphon back to the tank
> > > when it sits causing real 'bad' cold start issues.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Retiredff wrote:
> > >>
> > >> L.W. (ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > >>> Along with a new fuel pump, buy a new filter located inside the
> > >>> frame rail, on the drivers side above the front half of the spring.
> > >>> There's a shield you have to remove to get to it.
> > >>
> > >> I thought that filter was only on the fuel injected motors, Bill.
> > >> Can anyone confirm this? If it is there, then it has never been
> > >> replaced (16 years and 309,000 miles), and I can see that it might
> > >> present a problem.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> >
> > I don't think the fuel filter is the problem. Its been replaced three times
> > over the last three years, last time just a few months ago. And, it is on
> > the correct way.
> >
> > The worst part is that the Jeep is sitting 30 or so miles from home, and I
> > can't get to until Saturday to even try to figure it out.
>
> Ahh, so you 'have' changed the filter!
>
> Man the thought of someone getting away with 300K miles on a 258 gas
> filter was just too funny...
>
> Those filters are a pain. They plug up a lot on me because I get dust
> and mud around my gas cap. Some falls in the tank every time I open the
> cap and makes it's way to the filter.
>
> If it is the pump going bad, change suppliers, that one has a bad run of
> pumps.
>
> Mike
One other thing to watch is for a plugged up air filter on the gas tank
which will do a nasty imitation of running out of gas.
The tank can build up a vacuum and the carb up and runs out of gas. If
you crack the gas cap open and it starts back up that would be the
trouble. It is a $2.00 filter that fits on the bottom of the charcoal
canister.
Mike
09-26-2004, 11:18 AM
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Re: repeated fuel pump failures
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Retiredff wrote:
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > ROTFLMAO!
> > >
> > > Wow!
> > >
> > > The fuel filter on the 258 is supposed to be changed every year or
> > > more often if you drive in mud and dusty off road.
> > >
> > > I 'usually' can get a year out of them, but I always carry a spare
> > > under the seat.
> > >
> > > The filter has two outlets and sits up by the carb. The center outlet
> > > goes to the carb and the 'top' outlet goes to the return line. The
> > > return line must be at the top or gas will syphon back to the tank
> > > when it sits causing real 'bad' cold start issues.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Retiredff wrote:
> > >>
> > >> L.W. (ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > >>> Along with a new fuel pump, buy a new filter located inside the
> > >>> frame rail, on the drivers side above the front half of the spring.
> > >>> There's a shield you have to remove to get to it.
> > >>
> > >> I thought that filter was only on the fuel injected motors, Bill.
> > >> Can anyone confirm this? If it is there, then it has never been
> > >> replaced (16 years and 309,000 miles), and I can see that it might
> > >> present a problem.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> >
> > I don't think the fuel filter is the problem. Its been replaced three times
> > over the last three years, last time just a few months ago. And, it is on
> > the correct way.
> >
> > The worst part is that the Jeep is sitting 30 or so miles from home, and I
> > can't get to until Saturday to even try to figure it out.
>
> Ahh, so you 'have' changed the filter!
>
> Man the thought of someone getting away with 300K miles on a 258 gas
> filter was just too funny...
>
> Those filters are a pain. They plug up a lot on me because I get dust
> and mud around my gas cap. Some falls in the tank every time I open the
> cap and makes it's way to the filter.
>
> If it is the pump going bad, change suppliers, that one has a bad run of
> pumps.
>
> Mike
One other thing to watch is for a plugged up air filter on the gas tank
which will do a nasty imitation of running out of gas.
The tank can build up a vacuum and the carb up and runs out of gas. If
you crack the gas cap open and it starts back up that would be the
trouble. It is a $2.00 filter that fits on the bottom of the charcoal
canister.
Mike
>
> Retiredff wrote:
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > ROTFLMAO!
> > >
> > > Wow!
> > >
> > > The fuel filter on the 258 is supposed to be changed every year or
> > > more often if you drive in mud and dusty off road.
> > >
> > > I 'usually' can get a year out of them, but I always carry a spare
> > > under the seat.
> > >
> > > The filter has two outlets and sits up by the carb. The center outlet
> > > goes to the carb and the 'top' outlet goes to the return line. The
> > > return line must be at the top or gas will syphon back to the tank
> > > when it sits causing real 'bad' cold start issues.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Retiredff wrote:
> > >>
> > >> L.W. (ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > >>> Along with a new fuel pump, buy a new filter located inside the
> > >>> frame rail, on the drivers side above the front half of the spring.
> > >>> There's a shield you have to remove to get to it.
> > >>
> > >> I thought that filter was only on the fuel injected motors, Bill.
> > >> Can anyone confirm this? If it is there, then it has never been
> > >> replaced (16 years and 309,000 miles), and I can see that it might
> > >> present a problem.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> >
> > I don't think the fuel filter is the problem. Its been replaced three times
> > over the last three years, last time just a few months ago. And, it is on
> > the correct way.
> >
> > The worst part is that the Jeep is sitting 30 or so miles from home, and I
> > can't get to until Saturday to even try to figure it out.
>
> Ahh, so you 'have' changed the filter!
>
> Man the thought of someone getting away with 300K miles on a 258 gas
> filter was just too funny...
>
> Those filters are a pain. They plug up a lot on me because I get dust
> and mud around my gas cap. Some falls in the tank every time I open the
> cap and makes it's way to the filter.
>
> If it is the pump going bad, change suppliers, that one has a bad run of
> pumps.
>
> Mike
One other thing to watch is for a plugged up air filter on the gas tank
which will do a nasty imitation of running out of gas.
The tank can build up a vacuum and the carb up and runs out of gas. If
you crack the gas cap open and it starts back up that would be the
trouble. It is a $2.00 filter that fits on the bottom of the charcoal
canister.
Mike