Removing front seat in a 2005 TJ Wrangler??
06-19-2006, 07:44 PM
#11
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Re: Removing front seat in a 2005 TJ Wrangler??
Three of the four bolts up top have half-inch heads that don't budge
when a wrench is used. The fourth on has a TORX head. Since the others
don't move and I cannot find the nuts I haven't tried the TORX head
bolt. I don't have much experience with all this. Is there a web page
you know of that explains and maybe SHOWS how to do this so dummies
like me can figure it out??? I googled all morning without success!
THANKS! SS
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Have you tried to unbolt them? They should be bolted to captured nuts under
> the floorpan, two of them are not viible under the vehicle because they bolt
> to a sheetmetal "riser" on top of the floorpan.
>
> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1150752454.740244.256210@y41g2000cwy.googlegr oups.com...
> > Boy, they sure don't seem to on mine! The bolt ends I see under there
> > do not line up with the ones holding the riser in place.
> >
> > Jeeper wrote:
> >> the 4 bolts go thru the body...get a socket and off ya go!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1150747381.014749.61960@i40g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> >> >I wanted to temporarily remove the front seat in my 2005 Wrangler Sport
> >> > so I figured I would check this out on the web, Turns out that if you
> >> > own a TJ from 2002 or older, this information is easily found. 2003
> >> > and higher seems to some kind of deep dark secret!!
> >> >
> >> > As I look at my seat hardware I see 6 bolts connecting the actual seat
> >> > to the riser - with seemingly no way to get at them! There are also 4
> >> > bolts holding the riser down. The nuts that attach to them seem to be
> >> > inaccessible underneath.
> >> >
> >> > So........how do you DO this?? THANKS!!!!!
> >> >
> >
when a wrench is used. The fourth on has a TORX head. Since the others
don't move and I cannot find the nuts I haven't tried the TORX head
bolt. I don't have much experience with all this. Is there a web page
you know of that explains and maybe SHOWS how to do this so dummies
like me can figure it out??? I googled all morning without success!
THANKS! SS
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Have you tried to unbolt them? They should be bolted to captured nuts under
> the floorpan, two of them are not viible under the vehicle because they bolt
> to a sheetmetal "riser" on top of the floorpan.
>
> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1150752454.740244.256210@y41g2000cwy.googlegr oups.com...
> > Boy, they sure don't seem to on mine! The bolt ends I see under there
> > do not line up with the ones holding the riser in place.
> >
> > Jeeper wrote:
> >> the 4 bolts go thru the body...get a socket and off ya go!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1150747381.014749.61960@i40g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> >> >I wanted to temporarily remove the front seat in my 2005 Wrangler Sport
> >> > so I figured I would check this out on the web, Turns out that if you
> >> > own a TJ from 2002 or older, this information is easily found. 2003
> >> > and higher seems to some kind of deep dark secret!!
> >> >
> >> > As I look at my seat hardware I see 6 bolts connecting the actual seat
> >> > to the riser - with seemingly no way to get at them! There are also 4
> >> > bolts holding the riser down. The nuts that attach to them seem to be
> >> > inaccessible underneath.
> >> >
> >> > So........how do you DO this?? THANKS!!!!!
> >> >
> >
06-19-2006, 07:44 PM
#12
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Re: Removing front seat in a 2005 TJ Wrangler??
Three of the four bolts up top have half-inch heads that don't budge
when a wrench is used. The fourth on has a TORX head. Since the others
don't move and I cannot find the nuts I haven't tried the TORX head
bolt. I don't have much experience with all this. Is there a web page
you know of that explains and maybe SHOWS how to do this so dummies
like me can figure it out??? I googled all morning without success!
THANKS! SS
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Have you tried to unbolt them? They should be bolted to captured nuts under
> the floorpan, two of them are not viible under the vehicle because they bolt
> to a sheetmetal "riser" on top of the floorpan.
>
> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1150752454.740244.256210@y41g2000cwy.googlegr oups.com...
> > Boy, they sure don't seem to on mine! The bolt ends I see under there
> > do not line up with the ones holding the riser in place.
> >
> > Jeeper wrote:
> >> the 4 bolts go thru the body...get a socket and off ya go!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1150747381.014749.61960@i40g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> >> >I wanted to temporarily remove the front seat in my 2005 Wrangler Sport
> >> > so I figured I would check this out on the web, Turns out that if you
> >> > own a TJ from 2002 or older, this information is easily found. 2003
> >> > and higher seems to some kind of deep dark secret!!
> >> >
> >> > As I look at my seat hardware I see 6 bolts connecting the actual seat
> >> > to the riser - with seemingly no way to get at them! There are also 4
> >> > bolts holding the riser down. The nuts that attach to them seem to be
> >> > inaccessible underneath.
> >> >
> >> > So........how do you DO this?? THANKS!!!!!
> >> >
> >
when a wrench is used. The fourth on has a TORX head. Since the others
don't move and I cannot find the nuts I haven't tried the TORX head
bolt. I don't have much experience with all this. Is there a web page
you know of that explains and maybe SHOWS how to do this so dummies
like me can figure it out??? I googled all morning without success!
THANKS! SS
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Have you tried to unbolt them? They should be bolted to captured nuts under
> the floorpan, two of them are not viible under the vehicle because they bolt
> to a sheetmetal "riser" on top of the floorpan.
>
> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1150752454.740244.256210@y41g2000cwy.googlegr oups.com...
> > Boy, they sure don't seem to on mine! The bolt ends I see under there
> > do not line up with the ones holding the riser in place.
> >
> > Jeeper wrote:
> >> the 4 bolts go thru the body...get a socket and off ya go!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1150747381.014749.61960@i40g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> >> >I wanted to temporarily remove the front seat in my 2005 Wrangler Sport
> >> > so I figured I would check this out on the web, Turns out that if you
> >> > own a TJ from 2002 or older, this information is easily found. 2003
> >> > and higher seems to some kind of deep dark secret!!
> >> >
> >> > As I look at my seat hardware I see 6 bolts connecting the actual seat
> >> > to the riser - with seemingly no way to get at them! There are also 4
> >> > bolts holding the riser down. The nuts that attach to them seem to be
> >> > inaccessible underneath.
> >> >
> >> > So........how do you DO this?? THANKS!!!!!
> >> >
> >
06-19-2006, 07:44 PM
#13
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Re: Removing front seat in a 2005 TJ Wrangler??
Three of the four bolts up top have half-inch heads that don't budge
when a wrench is used. The fourth on has a TORX head. Since the others
don't move and I cannot find the nuts I haven't tried the TORX head
bolt. I don't have much experience with all this. Is there a web page
you know of that explains and maybe SHOWS how to do this so dummies
like me can figure it out??? I googled all morning without success!
THANKS! SS
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Have you tried to unbolt them? They should be bolted to captured nuts under
> the floorpan, two of them are not viible under the vehicle because they bolt
> to a sheetmetal "riser" on top of the floorpan.
>
> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1150752454.740244.256210@y41g2000cwy.googlegr oups.com...
> > Boy, they sure don't seem to on mine! The bolt ends I see under there
> > do not line up with the ones holding the riser in place.
> >
> > Jeeper wrote:
> >> the 4 bolts go thru the body...get a socket and off ya go!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1150747381.014749.61960@i40g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> >> >I wanted to temporarily remove the front seat in my 2005 Wrangler Sport
> >> > so I figured I would check this out on the web, Turns out that if you
> >> > own a TJ from 2002 or older, this information is easily found. 2003
> >> > and higher seems to some kind of deep dark secret!!
> >> >
> >> > As I look at my seat hardware I see 6 bolts connecting the actual seat
> >> > to the riser - with seemingly no way to get at them! There are also 4
> >> > bolts holding the riser down. The nuts that attach to them seem to be
> >> > inaccessible underneath.
> >> >
> >> > So........how do you DO this?? THANKS!!!!!
> >> >
> >
when a wrench is used. The fourth on has a TORX head. Since the others
don't move and I cannot find the nuts I haven't tried the TORX head
bolt. I don't have much experience with all this. Is there a web page
you know of that explains and maybe SHOWS how to do this so dummies
like me can figure it out??? I googled all morning without success!
THANKS! SS
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Have you tried to unbolt them? They should be bolted to captured nuts under
> the floorpan, two of them are not viible under the vehicle because they bolt
> to a sheetmetal "riser" on top of the floorpan.
>
> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1150752454.740244.256210@y41g2000cwy.googlegr oups.com...
> > Boy, they sure don't seem to on mine! The bolt ends I see under there
> > do not line up with the ones holding the riser in place.
> >
> > Jeeper wrote:
> >> the 4 bolts go thru the body...get a socket and off ya go!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1150747381.014749.61960@i40g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> >> >I wanted to temporarily remove the front seat in my 2005 Wrangler Sport
> >> > so I figured I would check this out on the web, Turns out that if you
> >> > own a TJ from 2002 or older, this information is easily found. 2003
> >> > and higher seems to some kind of deep dark secret!!
> >> >
> >> > As I look at my seat hardware I see 6 bolts connecting the actual seat
> >> > to the riser - with seemingly no way to get at them! There are also 4
> >> > bolts holding the riser down. The nuts that attach to them seem to be
> >> > inaccessible underneath.
> >> >
> >> > So........how do you DO this?? THANKS!!!!!
> >> >
> >
06-20-2006, 08:03 AM
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Re: Removing front seat in a 2005 TJ Wrangler??
Sounds about right. You need a longer wrench.
"sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1150760677.885854.210330@i40g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> Three of the four bolts up top have half-inch heads that don't budge
> when a wrench is used. The fourth on has a TORX head. Since the others
> don't move and I cannot find the nuts I haven't tried the TORX head
> bolt. I don't have much experience with all this. Is there a web page
> you know of that explains and maybe SHOWS how to do this so dummies
> like me can figure it out??? I googled all morning without success!
> THANKS! SS
>
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> Have you tried to unbolt them? They should be bolted to captured nuts
>> under
>> the floorpan, two of them are not viible under the vehicle because they
>> bolt
>> to a sheetmetal "riser" on top of the floorpan.
>>
>> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:1150752454.740244.256210@y41g2000cwy.googlegr oups.com...
>> > Boy, they sure don't seem to on mine! The bolt ends I see under there
>> > do not line up with the ones holding the riser in place.
>> >
>> > Jeeper wrote:
>> >> the 4 bolts go thru the body...get a socket and off ya go!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:1150747381.014749.61960@i40g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>> >> >I wanted to temporarily remove the front seat in my 2005 Wrangler
>> >> >Sport
>> >> > so I figured I would check this out on the web, Turns out that if
>> >> > you
>> >> > own a TJ from 2002 or older, this information is easily found. 2003
>> >> > and higher seems to some kind of deep dark secret!!
>> >> >
>> >> > As I look at my seat hardware I see 6 bolts connecting the actual
>> >> > seat
>> >> > to the riser - with seemingly no way to get at them! There are also
>> >> > 4
>> >> > bolts holding the riser down. The nuts that attach to them seem to
>> >> > be
>> >> > inaccessible underneath.
>> >> >
>> >> > So........how do you DO this?? THANKS!!!!!
>> >> >
>> >
>
"sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1150760677.885854.210330@i40g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> Three of the four bolts up top have half-inch heads that don't budge
> when a wrench is used. The fourth on has a TORX head. Since the others
> don't move and I cannot find the nuts I haven't tried the TORX head
> bolt. I don't have much experience with all this. Is there a web page
> you know of that explains and maybe SHOWS how to do this so dummies
> like me can figure it out??? I googled all morning without success!
> THANKS! SS
>
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> Have you tried to unbolt them? They should be bolted to captured nuts
>> under
>> the floorpan, two of them are not viible under the vehicle because they
>> bolt
>> to a sheetmetal "riser" on top of the floorpan.
>>
>> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:1150752454.740244.256210@y41g2000cwy.googlegr oups.com...
>> > Boy, they sure don't seem to on mine! The bolt ends I see under there
>> > do not line up with the ones holding the riser in place.
>> >
>> > Jeeper wrote:
>> >> the 4 bolts go thru the body...get a socket and off ya go!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:1150747381.014749.61960@i40g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>> >> >I wanted to temporarily remove the front seat in my 2005 Wrangler
>> >> >Sport
>> >> > so I figured I would check this out on the web, Turns out that if
>> >> > you
>> >> > own a TJ from 2002 or older, this information is easily found. 2003
>> >> > and higher seems to some kind of deep dark secret!!
>> >> >
>> >> > As I look at my seat hardware I see 6 bolts connecting the actual
>> >> > seat
>> >> > to the riser - with seemingly no way to get at them! There are also
>> >> > 4
>> >> > bolts holding the riser down. The nuts that attach to them seem to
>> >> > be
>> >> > inaccessible underneath.
>> >> >
>> >> > So........how do you DO this?? THANKS!!!!!
>> >> >
>> >
>
06-20-2006, 08:03 AM
#15
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Re: Removing front seat in a 2005 TJ Wrangler??
Sounds about right. You need a longer wrench.
"sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1150760677.885854.210330@i40g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> Three of the four bolts up top have half-inch heads that don't budge
> when a wrench is used. The fourth on has a TORX head. Since the others
> don't move and I cannot find the nuts I haven't tried the TORX head
> bolt. I don't have much experience with all this. Is there a web page
> you know of that explains and maybe SHOWS how to do this so dummies
> like me can figure it out??? I googled all morning without success!
> THANKS! SS
>
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> Have you tried to unbolt them? They should be bolted to captured nuts
>> under
>> the floorpan, two of them are not viible under the vehicle because they
>> bolt
>> to a sheetmetal "riser" on top of the floorpan.
>>
>> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:1150752454.740244.256210@y41g2000cwy.googlegr oups.com...
>> > Boy, they sure don't seem to on mine! The bolt ends I see under there
>> > do not line up with the ones holding the riser in place.
>> >
>> > Jeeper wrote:
>> >> the 4 bolts go thru the body...get a socket and off ya go!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:1150747381.014749.61960@i40g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>> >> >I wanted to temporarily remove the front seat in my 2005 Wrangler
>> >> >Sport
>> >> > so I figured I would check this out on the web, Turns out that if
>> >> > you
>> >> > own a TJ from 2002 or older, this information is easily found. 2003
>> >> > and higher seems to some kind of deep dark secret!!
>> >> >
>> >> > As I look at my seat hardware I see 6 bolts connecting the actual
>> >> > seat
>> >> > to the riser - with seemingly no way to get at them! There are also
>> >> > 4
>> >> > bolts holding the riser down. The nuts that attach to them seem to
>> >> > be
>> >> > inaccessible underneath.
>> >> >
>> >> > So........how do you DO this?? THANKS!!!!!
>> >> >
>> >
>
"sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1150760677.885854.210330@i40g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> Three of the four bolts up top have half-inch heads that don't budge
> when a wrench is used. The fourth on has a TORX head. Since the others
> don't move and I cannot find the nuts I haven't tried the TORX head
> bolt. I don't have much experience with all this. Is there a web page
> you know of that explains and maybe SHOWS how to do this so dummies
> like me can figure it out??? I googled all morning without success!
> THANKS! SS
>
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> Have you tried to unbolt them? They should be bolted to captured nuts
>> under
>> the floorpan, two of them are not viible under the vehicle because they
>> bolt
>> to a sheetmetal "riser" on top of the floorpan.
>>
>> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:1150752454.740244.256210@y41g2000cwy.googlegr oups.com...
>> > Boy, they sure don't seem to on mine! The bolt ends I see under there
>> > do not line up with the ones holding the riser in place.
>> >
>> > Jeeper wrote:
>> >> the 4 bolts go thru the body...get a socket and off ya go!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:1150747381.014749.61960@i40g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>> >> >I wanted to temporarily remove the front seat in my 2005 Wrangler
>> >> >Sport
>> >> > so I figured I would check this out on the web, Turns out that if
>> >> > you
>> >> > own a TJ from 2002 or older, this information is easily found. 2003
>> >> > and higher seems to some kind of deep dark secret!!
>> >> >
>> >> > As I look at my seat hardware I see 6 bolts connecting the actual
>> >> > seat
>> >> > to the riser - with seemingly no way to get at them! There are also
>> >> > 4
>> >> > bolts holding the riser down. The nuts that attach to them seem to
>> >> > be
>> >> > inaccessible underneath.
>> >> >
>> >> > So........how do you DO this?? THANKS!!!!!
>> >> >
>> >
>
06-20-2006, 08:03 AM
#16
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Posts: n/a
Re: Removing front seat in a 2005 TJ Wrangler??
Sounds about right. You need a longer wrench.
"sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1150760677.885854.210330@i40g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> Three of the four bolts up top have half-inch heads that don't budge
> when a wrench is used. The fourth on has a TORX head. Since the others
> don't move and I cannot find the nuts I haven't tried the TORX head
> bolt. I don't have much experience with all this. Is there a web page
> you know of that explains and maybe SHOWS how to do this so dummies
> like me can figure it out??? I googled all morning without success!
> THANKS! SS
>
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> Have you tried to unbolt them? They should be bolted to captured nuts
>> under
>> the floorpan, two of them are not viible under the vehicle because they
>> bolt
>> to a sheetmetal "riser" on top of the floorpan.
>>
>> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:1150752454.740244.256210@y41g2000cwy.googlegr oups.com...
>> > Boy, they sure don't seem to on mine! The bolt ends I see under there
>> > do not line up with the ones holding the riser in place.
>> >
>> > Jeeper wrote:
>> >> the 4 bolts go thru the body...get a socket and off ya go!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:1150747381.014749.61960@i40g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>> >> >I wanted to temporarily remove the front seat in my 2005 Wrangler
>> >> >Sport
>> >> > so I figured I would check this out on the web, Turns out that if
>> >> > you
>> >> > own a TJ from 2002 or older, this information is easily found. 2003
>> >> > and higher seems to some kind of deep dark secret!!
>> >> >
>> >> > As I look at my seat hardware I see 6 bolts connecting the actual
>> >> > seat
>> >> > to the riser - with seemingly no way to get at them! There are also
>> >> > 4
>> >> > bolts holding the riser down. The nuts that attach to them seem to
>> >> > be
>> >> > inaccessible underneath.
>> >> >
>> >> > So........how do you DO this?? THANKS!!!!!
>> >> >
>> >
>
"sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1150760677.885854.210330@i40g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> Three of the four bolts up top have half-inch heads that don't budge
> when a wrench is used. The fourth on has a TORX head. Since the others
> don't move and I cannot find the nuts I haven't tried the TORX head
> bolt. I don't have much experience with all this. Is there a web page
> you know of that explains and maybe SHOWS how to do this so dummies
> like me can figure it out??? I googled all morning without success!
> THANKS! SS
>
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> Have you tried to unbolt them? They should be bolted to captured nuts
>> under
>> the floorpan, two of them are not viible under the vehicle because they
>> bolt
>> to a sheetmetal "riser" on top of the floorpan.
>>
>> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:1150752454.740244.256210@y41g2000cwy.googlegr oups.com...
>> > Boy, they sure don't seem to on mine! The bolt ends I see under there
>> > do not line up with the ones holding the riser in place.
>> >
>> > Jeeper wrote:
>> >> the 4 bolts go thru the body...get a socket and off ya go!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:1150747381.014749.61960@i40g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>> >> >I wanted to temporarily remove the front seat in my 2005 Wrangler
>> >> >Sport
>> >> > so I figured I would check this out on the web, Turns out that if
>> >> > you
>> >> > own a TJ from 2002 or older, this information is easily found. 2003
>> >> > and higher seems to some kind of deep dark secret!!
>> >> >
>> >> > As I look at my seat hardware I see 6 bolts connecting the actual
>> >> > seat
>> >> > to the riser - with seemingly no way to get at them! There are also
>> >> > 4
>> >> > bolts holding the riser down. The nuts that attach to them seem to
>> >> > be
>> >> > inaccessible underneath.
>> >> >
>> >> > So........how do you DO this?? THANKS!!!!!
>> >> >
>> >
>
06-20-2006, 09:40 AM
#17
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Re: Removing front seat in a 2005 TJ Wrangler??
You need a bigger wrench.... They use welded in place hidden nuts on
most body parts. They also use a thread sealer on most that I have
seen.
I am not sure why they 'all' aren't torx though..... My seats are, but
I have a CJ7.
Mike
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sgswest wrote:
>
> Three of the four bolts up top have half-inch heads that don't budge
> when a wrench is used. The fourth on has a TORX head. Since the others
> don't move and I cannot find the nuts I haven't tried the TORX head
> bolt. I don't have much experience with all this. Is there a web page
> you know of that explains and maybe SHOWS how to do this so dummies
> like me can figure it out??? I googled all morning without success!
> THANKS! SS
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > Have you tried to unbolt them? They should be bolted to captured nuts under
> > the floorpan, two of them are not viible under the vehicle because they bolt
> > to a sheetmetal "riser" on top of the floorpan.
> >
> > "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:1150752454.740244.256210@y41g2000cwy.googlegr oups.com...
> > > Boy, they sure don't seem to on mine! The bolt ends I see under there
> > > do not line up with the ones holding the riser in place.
> > >
> > > Jeeper wrote:
> > >> the 4 bolts go thru the body...get a socket and off ya go!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:1150747381.014749.61960@i40g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> > >> >I wanted to temporarily remove the front seat in my 2005 Wrangler Sport
> > >> > so I figured I would check this out on the web, Turns out that if you
> > >> > own a TJ from 2002 or older, this information is easily found. 2003
> > >> > and higher seems to some kind of deep dark secret!!
> > >> >
> > >> > As I look at my seat hardware I see 6 bolts connecting the actual seat
> > >> > to the riser - with seemingly no way to get at them! There are also 4
> > >> > bolts holding the riser down. The nuts that attach to them seem to be
> > >> > inaccessible underneath.
> > >> >
> > >> > So........how do you DO this?? THANKS!!!!!
> > >> >
> > >
most body parts. They also use a thread sealer on most that I have
seen.
I am not sure why they 'all' aren't torx though..... My seats are, but
I have a CJ7.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
sgswest wrote:
>
> Three of the four bolts up top have half-inch heads that don't budge
> when a wrench is used. The fourth on has a TORX head. Since the others
> don't move and I cannot find the nuts I haven't tried the TORX head
> bolt. I don't have much experience with all this. Is there a web page
> you know of that explains and maybe SHOWS how to do this so dummies
> like me can figure it out??? I googled all morning without success!
> THANKS! SS
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > Have you tried to unbolt them? They should be bolted to captured nuts under
> > the floorpan, two of them are not viible under the vehicle because they bolt
> > to a sheetmetal "riser" on top of the floorpan.
> >
> > "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:1150752454.740244.256210@y41g2000cwy.googlegr oups.com...
> > > Boy, they sure don't seem to on mine! The bolt ends I see under there
> > > do not line up with the ones holding the riser in place.
> > >
> > > Jeeper wrote:
> > >> the 4 bolts go thru the body...get a socket and off ya go!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:1150747381.014749.61960@i40g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> > >> >I wanted to temporarily remove the front seat in my 2005 Wrangler Sport
> > >> > so I figured I would check this out on the web, Turns out that if you
> > >> > own a TJ from 2002 or older, this information is easily found. 2003
> > >> > and higher seems to some kind of deep dark secret!!
> > >> >
> > >> > As I look at my seat hardware I see 6 bolts connecting the actual seat
> > >> > to the riser - with seemingly no way to get at them! There are also 4
> > >> > bolts holding the riser down. The nuts that attach to them seem to be
> > >> > inaccessible underneath.
> > >> >
> > >> > So........how do you DO this?? THANKS!!!!!
> > >> >
> > >
06-20-2006, 09:40 AM
#18
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Removing front seat in a 2005 TJ Wrangler??
You need a bigger wrench.... They use welded in place hidden nuts on
most body parts. They also use a thread sealer on most that I have
seen.
I am not sure why they 'all' aren't torx though..... My seats are, but
I have a CJ7.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
sgswest wrote:
>
> Three of the four bolts up top have half-inch heads that don't budge
> when a wrench is used. The fourth on has a TORX head. Since the others
> don't move and I cannot find the nuts I haven't tried the TORX head
> bolt. I don't have much experience with all this. Is there a web page
> you know of that explains and maybe SHOWS how to do this so dummies
> like me can figure it out??? I googled all morning without success!
> THANKS! SS
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > Have you tried to unbolt them? They should be bolted to captured nuts under
> > the floorpan, two of them are not viible under the vehicle because they bolt
> > to a sheetmetal "riser" on top of the floorpan.
> >
> > "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:1150752454.740244.256210@y41g2000cwy.googlegr oups.com...
> > > Boy, they sure don't seem to on mine! The bolt ends I see under there
> > > do not line up with the ones holding the riser in place.
> > >
> > > Jeeper wrote:
> > >> the 4 bolts go thru the body...get a socket and off ya go!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:1150747381.014749.61960@i40g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> > >> >I wanted to temporarily remove the front seat in my 2005 Wrangler Sport
> > >> > so I figured I would check this out on the web, Turns out that if you
> > >> > own a TJ from 2002 or older, this information is easily found. 2003
> > >> > and higher seems to some kind of deep dark secret!!
> > >> >
> > >> > As I look at my seat hardware I see 6 bolts connecting the actual seat
> > >> > to the riser - with seemingly no way to get at them! There are also 4
> > >> > bolts holding the riser down. The nuts that attach to them seem to be
> > >> > inaccessible underneath.
> > >> >
> > >> > So........how do you DO this?? THANKS!!!!!
> > >> >
> > >
most body parts. They also use a thread sealer on most that I have
seen.
I am not sure why they 'all' aren't torx though..... My seats are, but
I have a CJ7.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
sgswest wrote:
>
> Three of the four bolts up top have half-inch heads that don't budge
> when a wrench is used. The fourth on has a TORX head. Since the others
> don't move and I cannot find the nuts I haven't tried the TORX head
> bolt. I don't have much experience with all this. Is there a web page
> you know of that explains and maybe SHOWS how to do this so dummies
> like me can figure it out??? I googled all morning without success!
> THANKS! SS
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > Have you tried to unbolt them? They should be bolted to captured nuts under
> > the floorpan, two of them are not viible under the vehicle because they bolt
> > to a sheetmetal "riser" on top of the floorpan.
> >
> > "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:1150752454.740244.256210@y41g2000cwy.googlegr oups.com...
> > > Boy, they sure don't seem to on mine! The bolt ends I see under there
> > > do not line up with the ones holding the riser in place.
> > >
> > > Jeeper wrote:
> > >> the 4 bolts go thru the body...get a socket and off ya go!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:1150747381.014749.61960@i40g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> > >> >I wanted to temporarily remove the front seat in my 2005 Wrangler Sport
> > >> > so I figured I would check this out on the web, Turns out that if you
> > >> > own a TJ from 2002 or older, this information is easily found. 2003
> > >> > and higher seems to some kind of deep dark secret!!
> > >> >
> > >> > As I look at my seat hardware I see 6 bolts connecting the actual seat
> > >> > to the riser - with seemingly no way to get at them! There are also 4
> > >> > bolts holding the riser down. The nuts that attach to them seem to be
> > >> > inaccessible underneath.
> > >> >
> > >> > So........how do you DO this?? THANKS!!!!!
> > >> >
> > >
06-20-2006, 09:40 AM
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Removing front seat in a 2005 TJ Wrangler??
You need a bigger wrench.... They use welded in place hidden nuts on
most body parts. They also use a thread sealer on most that I have
seen.
I am not sure why they 'all' aren't torx though..... My seats are, but
I have a CJ7.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
sgswest wrote:
>
> Three of the four bolts up top have half-inch heads that don't budge
> when a wrench is used. The fourth on has a TORX head. Since the others
> don't move and I cannot find the nuts I haven't tried the TORX head
> bolt. I don't have much experience with all this. Is there a web page
> you know of that explains and maybe SHOWS how to do this so dummies
> like me can figure it out??? I googled all morning without success!
> THANKS! SS
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > Have you tried to unbolt them? They should be bolted to captured nuts under
> > the floorpan, two of them are not viible under the vehicle because they bolt
> > to a sheetmetal "riser" on top of the floorpan.
> >
> > "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:1150752454.740244.256210@y41g2000cwy.googlegr oups.com...
> > > Boy, they sure don't seem to on mine! The bolt ends I see under there
> > > do not line up with the ones holding the riser in place.
> > >
> > > Jeeper wrote:
> > >> the 4 bolts go thru the body...get a socket and off ya go!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:1150747381.014749.61960@i40g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> > >> >I wanted to temporarily remove the front seat in my 2005 Wrangler Sport
> > >> > so I figured I would check this out on the web, Turns out that if you
> > >> > own a TJ from 2002 or older, this information is easily found. 2003
> > >> > and higher seems to some kind of deep dark secret!!
> > >> >
> > >> > As I look at my seat hardware I see 6 bolts connecting the actual seat
> > >> > to the riser - with seemingly no way to get at them! There are also 4
> > >> > bolts holding the riser down. The nuts that attach to them seem to be
> > >> > inaccessible underneath.
> > >> >
> > >> > So........how do you DO this?? THANKS!!!!!
> > >> >
> > >
most body parts. They also use a thread sealer on most that I have
seen.
I am not sure why they 'all' aren't torx though..... My seats are, but
I have a CJ7.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
sgswest wrote:
>
> Three of the four bolts up top have half-inch heads that don't budge
> when a wrench is used. The fourth on has a TORX head. Since the others
> don't move and I cannot find the nuts I haven't tried the TORX head
> bolt. I don't have much experience with all this. Is there a web page
> you know of that explains and maybe SHOWS how to do this so dummies
> like me can figure it out??? I googled all morning without success!
> THANKS! SS
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > Have you tried to unbolt them? They should be bolted to captured nuts under
> > the floorpan, two of them are not viible under the vehicle because they bolt
> > to a sheetmetal "riser" on top of the floorpan.
> >
> > "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:1150752454.740244.256210@y41g2000cwy.googlegr oups.com...
> > > Boy, they sure don't seem to on mine! The bolt ends I see under there
> > > do not line up with the ones holding the riser in place.
> > >
> > > Jeeper wrote:
> > >> the 4 bolts go thru the body...get a socket and off ya go!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:1150747381.014749.61960@i40g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> > >> >I wanted to temporarily remove the front seat in my 2005 Wrangler Sport
> > >> > so I figured I would check this out on the web, Turns out that if you
> > >> > own a TJ from 2002 or older, this information is easily found. 2003
> > >> > and higher seems to some kind of deep dark secret!!
> > >> >
> > >> > As I look at my seat hardware I see 6 bolts connecting the actual seat
> > >> > to the riser - with seemingly no way to get at them! There are also 4
> > >> > bolts holding the riser down. The nuts that attach to them seem to be
> > >> > inaccessible underneath.
> > >> >
> > >> > So........how do you DO this?? THANKS!!!!!
> > >> >
> > >
06-20-2006, 11:46 AM
#20
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Removing front seat in a 2005 TJ Wrangler??
Odd. My YJ is held in with real hex head fasteners.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4497FAD9.2E296738@sympatico.ca...
> You need a bigger wrench.... They use welded in place hidden nuts on
> most body parts. They also use a thread sealer on most that I have
> seen.
>
> I am not sure why they 'all' aren't torx though..... My seats are, but
> I have a CJ7.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> sgswest wrote:
> >
> > Three of the four bolts up top have half-inch heads that don't budge
> > when a wrench is used. The fourth on has a TORX head. Since the others
> > don't move and I cannot find the nuts I haven't tried the TORX head
> > bolt. I don't have much experience with all this. Is there a web page
> > you know of that explains and maybe SHOWS how to do this so dummies
> > like me can figure it out??? I googled all morning without success!
> > THANKS! SS
> >
> > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > > Have you tried to unbolt them? They should be bolted to captured nuts
under
> > > the floorpan, two of them are not viible under the vehicle because
they bolt
> > > to a sheetmetal "riser" on top of the floorpan.
> > >
> > > "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1150752454.740244.256210@y41g2000cwy.googlegr oups.com...
> > > > Boy, they sure don't seem to on mine! The bolt ends I see under
there
> > > > do not line up with the ones holding the riser in place.
> > > >
> > > > Jeeper wrote:
> > > >> the 4 bolts go thru the body...get a socket and off ya go!
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:1150747381.014749.61960@i40g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> > > >> >I wanted to temporarily remove the front seat in my 2005 Wrangler
Sport
> > > >> > so I figured I would check this out on the web, Turns out that
if you
> > > >> > own a TJ from 2002 or older, this information is easily found.
2003
> > > >> > and higher seems to some kind of deep dark secret!!
> > > >> >
> > > >> > As I look at my seat hardware I see 6 bolts connecting the actual
seat
> > > >> > to the riser - with seemingly no way to get at them! There are
also 4
> > > >> > bolts holding the riser down. The nuts that attach to them seem
to be
> > > >> > inaccessible underneath.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > So........how do you DO this?? THANKS!!!!!
> > > >> >
> > > >
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4497FAD9.2E296738@sympatico.ca...
> You need a bigger wrench.... They use welded in place hidden nuts on
> most body parts. They also use a thread sealer on most that I have
> seen.
>
> I am not sure why they 'all' aren't torx though..... My seats are, but
> I have a CJ7.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> sgswest wrote:
> >
> > Three of the four bolts up top have half-inch heads that don't budge
> > when a wrench is used. The fourth on has a TORX head. Since the others
> > don't move and I cannot find the nuts I haven't tried the TORX head
> > bolt. I don't have much experience with all this. Is there a web page
> > you know of that explains and maybe SHOWS how to do this so dummies
> > like me can figure it out??? I googled all morning without success!
> > THANKS! SS
> >
> > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > > Have you tried to unbolt them? They should be bolted to captured nuts
under
> > > the floorpan, two of them are not viible under the vehicle because
they bolt
> > > to a sheetmetal "riser" on top of the floorpan.
> > >
> > > "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1150752454.740244.256210@y41g2000cwy.googlegr oups.com...
> > > > Boy, they sure don't seem to on mine! The bolt ends I see under
there
> > > > do not line up with the ones holding the riser in place.
> > > >
> > > > Jeeper wrote:
> > > >> the 4 bolts go thru the body...get a socket and off ya go!
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "sgswest" <sgswest@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:1150747381.014749.61960@i40g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> > > >> >I wanted to temporarily remove the front seat in my 2005 Wrangler
Sport
> > > >> > so I figured I would check this out on the web, Turns out that
if you
> > > >> > own a TJ from 2002 or older, this information is easily found.
2003
> > > >> > and higher seems to some kind of deep dark secret!!
> > > >> >
> > > >> > As I look at my seat hardware I see 6 bolts connecting the actual
seat
> > > >> > to the riser - with seemingly no way to get at them! There are
also 4
> > > >> > bolts holding the riser down. The nuts that attach to them seem
to be
> > > >> > inaccessible underneath.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > So........how do you DO this?? THANKS!!!!!
> > > >> >
> > > >