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Mike Romain 06-11-2006 10:49 AM

Re: Reliability Anxiety with Jeep
 
Peter Parker wrote:
>
> In article <448AFB0D.4A73EC4C@sympatico.ca>,
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >I have 2 Cherokees, an 88 and an 87. The first with 320K km on it and
> >the second with 385K. They still only use one liter of oil between oil
> >changes and have lots of power left. We are hoping for 500K before
> >rebuilding. Well the bodies will be dead on them before that likely. I
> >am in the rust/salt belt.
> >
> >Mike

>
> Speaking about rust. I had my first frame weld job done recently to build
> up the frame behind the steering gear. How many frame buildups have you
> do in the rust belt up there?
>
> --
> Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...


LOL!

My CJ7's frame is 'all' a patch. The 88 XJ's floors are plywood.... I
am retiring that one for parts to use on the 87 that still has floors.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 06-11-2006 10:49 AM

Re: Reliability Anxiety with Jeep
 
Peter Parker wrote:
>
> In article <448AFB0D.4A73EC4C@sympatico.ca>,
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >I have 2 Cherokees, an 88 and an 87. The first with 320K km on it and
> >the second with 385K. They still only use one liter of oil between oil
> >changes and have lots of power left. We are hoping for 500K before
> >rebuilding. Well the bodies will be dead on them before that likely. I
> >am in the rust/salt belt.
> >
> >Mike

>
> Speaking about rust. I had my first frame weld job done recently to build
> up the frame behind the steering gear. How many frame buildups have you
> do in the rust belt up there?
>
> --
> Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...


LOL!

My CJ7's frame is 'all' a patch. The 88 XJ's floors are plywood.... I
am retiring that one for parts to use on the 87 that still has floors.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 06-11-2006 10:49 AM

Re: Reliability Anxiety with Jeep
 
Peter Parker wrote:
>
> In article <448AFB0D.4A73EC4C@sympatico.ca>,
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >I have 2 Cherokees, an 88 and an 87. The first with 320K km on it and
> >the second with 385K. They still only use one liter of oil between oil
> >changes and have lots of power left. We are hoping for 500K before
> >rebuilding. Well the bodies will be dead on them before that likely. I
> >am in the rust/salt belt.
> >
> >Mike

>
> Speaking about rust. I had my first frame weld job done recently to build
> up the frame behind the steering gear. How many frame buildups have you
> do in the rust belt up there?
>
> --
> Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...


LOL!

My CJ7's frame is 'all' a patch. The 88 XJ's floors are plywood.... I
am retiring that one for parts to use on the 87 that still has floors.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Peter Parker 06-11-2006 05:57 PM

Re: Reliability Anxiety with Jeep
 
In article <448C2D7E.A5054D0E@sympatico.ca>,
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>Peter Parker wrote:
>>
>> In article <448AFB0D.4A73EC4C@sympatico.ca>,
>> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> >I have 2 Cherokees, an 88 and an 87. The first with 320K km on it and
>> >the second with 385K. They still only use one liter of oil between oil
>> >changes and have lots of power left. We are hoping for 500K before
>> >rebuilding. Well the bodies will be dead on them before that likely. I
>> >am in the rust/salt belt.
>> >
>> >Mike

>>
>> Speaking about rust. I had my first frame weld job done recently to build
>> up the frame behind the steering gear. How many frame buildups have you
>> do in the rust belt up there?
>>
>> --
>> Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...

>
>LOL!
>
>My CJ7's frame is 'all' a patch. The 88 XJ's floors are plywood.... I
>am retiring that one for parts to use on the 87 that still has floors.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


LOL!!! Mike I knew you you had a glass transplant but WOW!. Yep. My first
weld job and I found the crack during my scheduled grease job. I looked up
and saw the gapping hole crack behind the steering box. Now it's all built
up around it with 1/8 steel and done REAL NICE.... It's like war wounds and
showing all your buddies.

I wasn't there when it was worked on and I was wondering what you use for
welding gear. OC torch, MIG and a stick welder?


--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...

Peter Parker 06-11-2006 05:57 PM

Re: Reliability Anxiety with Jeep
 
In article <448C2D7E.A5054D0E@sympatico.ca>,
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>Peter Parker wrote:
>>
>> In article <448AFB0D.4A73EC4C@sympatico.ca>,
>> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> >I have 2 Cherokees, an 88 and an 87. The first with 320K km on it and
>> >the second with 385K. They still only use one liter of oil between oil
>> >changes and have lots of power left. We are hoping for 500K before
>> >rebuilding. Well the bodies will be dead on them before that likely. I
>> >am in the rust/salt belt.
>> >
>> >Mike

>>
>> Speaking about rust. I had my first frame weld job done recently to build
>> up the frame behind the steering gear. How many frame buildups have you
>> do in the rust belt up there?
>>
>> --
>> Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...

>
>LOL!
>
>My CJ7's frame is 'all' a patch. The 88 XJ's floors are plywood.... I
>am retiring that one for parts to use on the 87 that still has floors.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


LOL!!! Mike I knew you you had a glass transplant but WOW!. Yep. My first
weld job and I found the crack during my scheduled grease job. I looked up
and saw the gapping hole crack behind the steering box. Now it's all built
up around it with 1/8 steel and done REAL NICE.... It's like war wounds and
showing all your buddies.

I wasn't there when it was worked on and I was wondering what you use for
welding gear. OC torch, MIG and a stick welder?


--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...

Peter Parker 06-11-2006 05:57 PM

Re: Reliability Anxiety with Jeep
 
In article <448C2D7E.A5054D0E@sympatico.ca>,
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>Peter Parker wrote:
>>
>> In article <448AFB0D.4A73EC4C@sympatico.ca>,
>> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> >I have 2 Cherokees, an 88 and an 87. The first with 320K km on it and
>> >the second with 385K. They still only use one liter of oil between oil
>> >changes and have lots of power left. We are hoping for 500K before
>> >rebuilding. Well the bodies will be dead on them before that likely. I
>> >am in the rust/salt belt.
>> >
>> >Mike

>>
>> Speaking about rust. I had my first frame weld job done recently to build
>> up the frame behind the steering gear. How many frame buildups have you
>> do in the rust belt up there?
>>
>> --
>> Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...

>
>LOL!
>
>My CJ7's frame is 'all' a patch. The 88 XJ's floors are plywood.... I
>am retiring that one for parts to use on the 87 that still has floors.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


LOL!!! Mike I knew you you had a glass transplant but WOW!. Yep. My first
weld job and I found the crack during my scheduled grease job. I looked up
and saw the gapping hole crack behind the steering box. Now it's all built
up around it with 1/8 steel and done REAL NICE.... It's like war wounds and
showing all your buddies.

I wasn't there when it was worked on and I was wondering what you use for
welding gear. OC torch, MIG and a stick welder?


--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...

XS11E 06-11-2006 07:17 PM

Re: Reliability Anxiety with Jeep
 
nospam@zero.com (Peter Parker) wrote in
news:448c91c6_2@nntp2.nac.net:

> I wasn't there when it was worked on and I was wondering what you
> use for welding gear. OC torch, MIG and a stick welder?


I was at a Jeep Jamboree years back and broke a steering column mount
on my Jeep, there were guys back in camp who welded broken stuff for
folks at the rally. They parked several vehicles near eachother and
used jumper cables to connect + to - to + to - until they had around 36
volts or more (can't recall how many vehicles?) then the last set of
jumper cables were used, one to clamp to my Jeep for ground and the
other to hold the welding rod. The welding rod was a peice of coat
hangar, apparently the coating acts as flux for the weld?

Years later I sold that Jeep and the weld was still solid.

I guess if they needed to weld a heavier bit of metal they'd need more
vehicles to increase voltage and heavier rod???


XS11E 06-11-2006 07:17 PM

Re: Reliability Anxiety with Jeep
 
nospam@zero.com (Peter Parker) wrote in
news:448c91c6_2@nntp2.nac.net:

> I wasn't there when it was worked on and I was wondering what you
> use for welding gear. OC torch, MIG and a stick welder?


I was at a Jeep Jamboree years back and broke a steering column mount
on my Jeep, there were guys back in camp who welded broken stuff for
folks at the rally. They parked several vehicles near eachother and
used jumper cables to connect + to - to + to - until they had around 36
volts or more (can't recall how many vehicles?) then the last set of
jumper cables were used, one to clamp to my Jeep for ground and the
other to hold the welding rod. The welding rod was a peice of coat
hangar, apparently the coating acts as flux for the weld?

Years later I sold that Jeep and the weld was still solid.

I guess if they needed to weld a heavier bit of metal they'd need more
vehicles to increase voltage and heavier rod???


XS11E 06-11-2006 07:17 PM

Re: Reliability Anxiety with Jeep
 
nospam@zero.com (Peter Parker) wrote in
news:448c91c6_2@nntp2.nac.net:

> I wasn't there when it was worked on and I was wondering what you
> use for welding gear. OC torch, MIG and a stick welder?


I was at a Jeep Jamboree years back and broke a steering column mount
on my Jeep, there were guys back in camp who welded broken stuff for
folks at the rally. They parked several vehicles near eachother and
used jumper cables to connect + to - to + to - until they had around 36
volts or more (can't recall how many vehicles?) then the last set of
jumper cables were used, one to clamp to my Jeep for ground and the
other to hold the welding rod. The welding rod was a peice of coat
hangar, apparently the coating acts as flux for the weld?

Years later I sold that Jeep and the weld was still solid.

I guess if they needed to weld a heavier bit of metal they'd need more
vehicles to increase voltage and heavier rod???


Jeff DeWitt 06-12-2006 01:02 AM

Re: Reliability Anxiety with Jeep
 


XS11E wrote:
> nospam@zero.com (Peter Parker) wrote in
> news:448c91c6_2@nntp2.nac.net:
>
>
>>I wasn't there when it was worked on and I was wondering what you
>>use for welding gear. OC torch, MIG and a stick welder?

>
>
> I was at a Jeep Jamboree years back and broke a steering column mount
> on my Jeep, there were guys back in camp who welded broken stuff for
> folks at the rally. They parked several vehicles near eachother and
> used jumper cables to connect + to - to + to - until they had around 36
> volts or more (can't recall how many vehicles?) then the last set of
> jumper cables were used, one to clamp to my Jeep for ground and the
> other to hold the welding rod. The welding rod was a peice of coat
> hangar, apparently the coating acts as flux for the weld?


I love it! When you don't have what you need you make do with what
you've got.

>
> Years later I sold that Jeep and the weld was still solid.
>
> I guess if they needed to weld a heavier bit of metal they'd need more
> vehicles to increase voltage and heavier rod???
>



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