Re: Rebuild or buy new
I use my thumb and index fingers on a quarter inch drive, kind of like
the bolts some Hot Rodders use on their valve covers: http://www.speco.com.au/images/AccValveCoverWing.jpg God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:45f0848d$0$6367$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > The torque specs are for replacement of the gaskets with new parts. I > don't believe they are valid for an old gasket or to slow down a leak. > > I use a 1/4" drive socket wrench and my small finger on the end of the > handle applying the pressure on the old ones. I stop if I see the > slightest deformation of the metal happening. I have large and strong > hands and figure my last finger can put the 3-5 or so ft lb of torque on > them. > > When I sneak the open end of a wrench onto a bolt head vertically in a > tight space, I use mini vise grips clamped onto the wrench shaft close > to the box end to turn it. This is tons of power for those bolts. > > Mike > > YouGoFirst wrote: > > What torque should I tighten things to? > > > > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > > news:47221$45f035ff$422afc51$30912@FUSE.NET... > >> A quarter inch socket set with universals and wobblies and, of course, a > >> torque wrench that measures Inch-Pounds. > >> > >> > >> > >> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message > >> news:KDVHh.45605$as2.18634@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > >>> Not to inflate your ego, but you are so smart. I crawled under my jeep, > >>> and poked around the valve cover, and those areas were visibly wet with > >>> oil. Now I just have to figure out how to get to all of the bolts with a > >>> wrench. > >>> > >>> > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > >>> news:45eed597$0$3923$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > >>>> Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go > >>>> and just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover and > >>>> oil pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little tighten > >>>> here and there. > >>>> > >>>> Mike > >>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > >>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > >>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > >>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > >>>> > >>>> YouGoFirst wrote: > >>>>> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a > >>>>> simple fix? > >>>>> > >>>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > >>>>> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET... > >>>>>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil > >>>>>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> (Or are you burning that much?) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message > >>>>>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > >>>>>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip > >>>>>>> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on > >>>>>>> it, and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine. > >>>>>>> Should I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed > >>>>>>> with the oil situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it > >>>>>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to > >>>>>>> take apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give. > >>>>>>> > >> > > > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Rebuild or buy new
I use my thumb and index fingers on a quarter inch drive, kind of like
the bolts some Hot Rodders use on their valve covers: http://www.speco.com.au/images/AccValveCoverWing.jpg God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:45f0848d$0$6367$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > The torque specs are for replacement of the gaskets with new parts. I > don't believe they are valid for an old gasket or to slow down a leak. > > I use a 1/4" drive socket wrench and my small finger on the end of the > handle applying the pressure on the old ones. I stop if I see the > slightest deformation of the metal happening. I have large and strong > hands and figure my last finger can put the 3-5 or so ft lb of torque on > them. > > When I sneak the open end of a wrench onto a bolt head vertically in a > tight space, I use mini vise grips clamped onto the wrench shaft close > to the box end to turn it. This is tons of power for those bolts. > > Mike > > YouGoFirst wrote: > > What torque should I tighten things to? > > > > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > > news:47221$45f035ff$422afc51$30912@FUSE.NET... > >> A quarter inch socket set with universals and wobblies and, of course, a > >> torque wrench that measures Inch-Pounds. > >> > >> > >> > >> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message > >> news:KDVHh.45605$as2.18634@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > >>> Not to inflate your ego, but you are so smart. I crawled under my jeep, > >>> and poked around the valve cover, and those areas were visibly wet with > >>> oil. Now I just have to figure out how to get to all of the bolts with a > >>> wrench. > >>> > >>> > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > >>> news:45eed597$0$3923$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > >>>> Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go > >>>> and just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover and > >>>> oil pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little tighten > >>>> here and there. > >>>> > >>>> Mike > >>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > >>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > >>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > >>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > >>>> > >>>> YouGoFirst wrote: > >>>>> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a > >>>>> simple fix? > >>>>> > >>>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > >>>>> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET... > >>>>>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil > >>>>>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> (Or are you burning that much?) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message > >>>>>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > >>>>>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip > >>>>>>> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on > >>>>>>> it, and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine. > >>>>>>> Should I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed > >>>>>>> with the oil situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it > >>>>>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to > >>>>>>> take apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give. > >>>>>>> > >> > > > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Rebuild or buy new
That sounds about the same to me.
'I' might be able to go way too tight your way, which I know from experience, so I stick to holding it with the first two fingers and thumb and using the little finger for power on pans and valve covers. I can 'easily' crack the plastic valve covers with just the little finger pushing and regularly gut worm gear clamps when I use a nut driver on them. I am the kind of guy that snaps sider cutter handles off when using them. I have snapped two in the last couple months, one was a cheapie, one wasn't... Mike L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote: > I use my thumb and index fingers on a quarter inch drive, kind of like > the bolts some Hot Rodders use on their valve covers: > http://www.speco.com.au/images/AccValveCoverWing.jpg > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:45f0848d$0$6367$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... >> The torque specs are for replacement of the gaskets with new parts. I >> don't believe they are valid for an old gasket or to slow down a leak. >> >> I use a 1/4" drive socket wrench and my small finger on the end of the >> handle applying the pressure on the old ones. I stop if I see the >> slightest deformation of the metal happening. I have large and strong >> hands and figure my last finger can put the 3-5 or so ft lb of torque on >> them. >> >> When I sneak the open end of a wrench onto a bolt head vertically in a >> tight space, I use mini vise grips clamped onto the wrench shaft close >> to the box end to turn it. This is tons of power for those bolts. >> >> Mike >> >> YouGoFirst wrote: >>> What torque should I tighten things to? >>> <snip> |
Re: Rebuild or buy new
That sounds about the same to me.
'I' might be able to go way too tight your way, which I know from experience, so I stick to holding it with the first two fingers and thumb and using the little finger for power on pans and valve covers. I can 'easily' crack the plastic valve covers with just the little finger pushing and regularly gut worm gear clamps when I use a nut driver on them. I am the kind of guy that snaps sider cutter handles off when using them. I have snapped two in the last couple months, one was a cheapie, one wasn't... Mike L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote: > I use my thumb and index fingers on a quarter inch drive, kind of like > the bolts some Hot Rodders use on their valve covers: > http://www.speco.com.au/images/AccValveCoverWing.jpg > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:45f0848d$0$6367$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... >> The torque specs are for replacement of the gaskets with new parts. I >> don't believe they are valid for an old gasket or to slow down a leak. >> >> I use a 1/4" drive socket wrench and my small finger on the end of the >> handle applying the pressure on the old ones. I stop if I see the >> slightest deformation of the metal happening. I have large and strong >> hands and figure my last finger can put the 3-5 or so ft lb of torque on >> them. >> >> When I sneak the open end of a wrench onto a bolt head vertically in a >> tight space, I use mini vise grips clamped onto the wrench shaft close >> to the box end to turn it. This is tons of power for those bolts. >> >> Mike >> >> YouGoFirst wrote: >>> What torque should I tighten things to? >>> <snip> |
Re: Rebuild or buy new
That sounds about the same to me.
'I' might be able to go way too tight your way, which I know from experience, so I stick to holding it with the first two fingers and thumb and using the little finger for power on pans and valve covers. I can 'easily' crack the plastic valve covers with just the little finger pushing and regularly gut worm gear clamps when I use a nut driver on them. I am the kind of guy that snaps sider cutter handles off when using them. I have snapped two in the last couple months, one was a cheapie, one wasn't... Mike L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote: > I use my thumb and index fingers on a quarter inch drive, kind of like > the bolts some Hot Rodders use on their valve covers: > http://www.speco.com.au/images/AccValveCoverWing.jpg > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:45f0848d$0$6367$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... >> The torque specs are for replacement of the gaskets with new parts. I >> don't believe they are valid for an old gasket or to slow down a leak. >> >> I use a 1/4" drive socket wrench and my small finger on the end of the >> handle applying the pressure on the old ones. I stop if I see the >> slightest deformation of the metal happening. I have large and strong >> hands and figure my last finger can put the 3-5 or so ft lb of torque on >> them. >> >> When I sneak the open end of a wrench onto a bolt head vertically in a >> tight space, I use mini vise grips clamped onto the wrench shaft close >> to the box end to turn it. This is tons of power for those bolts. >> >> Mike >> >> YouGoFirst wrote: >>> What torque should I tighten things to? >>> <snip> |
Re: Rebuild or buy new
Yup, I am not put any power on it either.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:45f09f09$0$31564$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com... > That sounds about the same to me. > > 'I' might be able to go way too tight your way, which I know from > experience, so I stick to holding it with the first two fingers and > thumb and using the little finger for power on pans and valve covers. > > I can 'easily' crack the plastic valve covers with just the little > finger pushing and regularly gut worm gear clamps when I use a nut > driver on them. I am the kind of guy that snaps sider cutter handles > off when using them. I have snapped two in the last couple months, one > was a cheapie, one wasn't... > > Mike -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Rebuild or buy new
Yup, I am not put any power on it either.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:45f09f09$0$31564$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com... > That sounds about the same to me. > > 'I' might be able to go way too tight your way, which I know from > experience, so I stick to holding it with the first two fingers and > thumb and using the little finger for power on pans and valve covers. > > I can 'easily' crack the plastic valve covers with just the little > finger pushing and regularly gut worm gear clamps when I use a nut > driver on them. I am the kind of guy that snaps sider cutter handles > off when using them. I have snapped two in the last couple months, one > was a cheapie, one wasn't... > > Mike -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Rebuild or buy new
Yup, I am not put any power on it either.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:45f09f09$0$31564$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com... > That sounds about the same to me. > > 'I' might be able to go way too tight your way, which I know from > experience, so I stick to holding it with the first two fingers and > thumb and using the little finger for power on pans and valve covers. > > I can 'easily' crack the plastic valve covers with just the little > finger pushing and regularly gut worm gear clamps when I use a nut > driver on them. I am the kind of guy that snaps sider cutter handles > off when using them. I have snapped two in the last couple months, one > was a cheapie, one wasn't... > > Mike -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Rebuild or buy new
I twist the heads of 'em with my bare fingers.
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 16:34:36 -0800, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote: > Yup, I am not put any power on it either. > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > >"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >news:45f09f09$0$31564$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshost ing.com... >> That sounds about the same to me. >> >> 'I' might be able to go way too tight your way, which I know from >> experience, so I stick to holding it with the first two fingers and >> thumb and using the little finger for power on pans and valve covers. >> >> I can 'easily' crack the plastic valve covers with just the little >> finger pushing and regularly gut worm gear clamps when I use a nut >> driver on them. I am the kind of guy that snaps sider cutter handles >> off when using them. I have snapped two in the last couple months, one >> was a cheapie, one wasn't... >> >> Mike |
Re: Rebuild or buy new
I twist the heads of 'em with my bare fingers.
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 16:34:36 -0800, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote: > Yup, I am not put any power on it either. > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > >"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >news:45f09f09$0$31564$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshost ing.com... >> That sounds about the same to me. >> >> 'I' might be able to go way too tight your way, which I know from >> experience, so I stick to holding it with the first two fingers and >> thumb and using the little finger for power on pans and valve covers. >> >> I can 'easily' crack the plastic valve covers with just the little >> finger pushing and regularly gut worm gear clamps when I use a nut >> driver on them. I am the kind of guy that snaps sider cutter handles >> off when using them. I have snapped two in the last couple months, one >> was a cheapie, one wasn't... >> >> Mike |
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