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Earle Horton 03-07-2007 11:22 AM

Re: Rebuild or buy new
 
When the engine in my Suburban went bad I had more money than time. I wound
up spending around $3,000 at the Chevy dealer for a NEW crate engine,
installed. It was blowing a quart every 300 miles, and I had installed
aftermarket breathers to get the oil spray off the windshield. Prices for a
Jeep engine are going to be more, because DaimlerChrysler is awfully proud
of their products, some say without reason, but this should give you a
ballpark idea of the most you could spend.

The best option for a rebuilt is to find a local or at least in-state
rebuilder with a good reputation. If you post where you live, perhaps
people here will know a good one nearby. People report problems with some
of the "factory rebuilders", perhaps because the people who trade in cores
wait too long.

Spend some time diagnosing the problem first. You could just have a bad
valve cover gasket or a plugged PCV system.

Earle

"YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:h0BHh.42710$as2.31698@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> I do like my car, I just don't like the oil consumption. Do you have any
> idea of what it costs to rebuild the engine?
>
> "Tom Greening" <tgreening@yomama.com> wrote in message
> news:45eece7b$0$8986$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> > YouGoFirst wrote:
> >> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
> >> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on it,
> >> and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine.

Should
> >> I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed with the oil
> >> situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
> >>
> >> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it

costs
> >> to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to take

apart
> >> an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.

> >
> >
> > If want you have is a sound vehicle that you are otherwise happy with,

you
> > can rebuild the engine a whole lot cheaper than you can buy another
> > vehicle. If you can pull it and install it yourself you will be WAY
> > cheaper.

>
>




Earle Horton 03-07-2007 11:22 AM

Re: Rebuild or buy new
 
When the engine in my Suburban went bad I had more money than time. I wound
up spending around $3,000 at the Chevy dealer for a NEW crate engine,
installed. It was blowing a quart every 300 miles, and I had installed
aftermarket breathers to get the oil spray off the windshield. Prices for a
Jeep engine are going to be more, because DaimlerChrysler is awfully proud
of their products, some say without reason, but this should give you a
ballpark idea of the most you could spend.

The best option for a rebuilt is to find a local or at least in-state
rebuilder with a good reputation. If you post where you live, perhaps
people here will know a good one nearby. People report problems with some
of the "factory rebuilders", perhaps because the people who trade in cores
wait too long.

Spend some time diagnosing the problem first. You could just have a bad
valve cover gasket or a plugged PCV system.

Earle

"YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:h0BHh.42710$as2.31698@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> I do like my car, I just don't like the oil consumption. Do you have any
> idea of what it costs to rebuild the engine?
>
> "Tom Greening" <tgreening@yomama.com> wrote in message
> news:45eece7b$0$8986$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> > YouGoFirst wrote:
> >> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
> >> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on it,
> >> and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine.

Should
> >> I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed with the oil
> >> situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
> >>
> >> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it

costs
> >> to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to take

apart
> >> an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.

> >
> >
> > If want you have is a sound vehicle that you are otherwise happy with,

you
> > can rebuild the engine a whole lot cheaper than you can buy another
> > vehicle. If you can pull it and install it yourself you will be WAY
> > cheaper.

>
>




YouGoFirst 03-07-2007 02:47 PM

Re: Rebuild or buy new
 
If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a simple
fix?

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil down
> there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>
> (Or are you burning that much?)
>
>
> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip about
>>1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on it, and I was
>>wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine. Should I have the
>>engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed with the oil situation,
>>should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>
>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it costs
>> to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to take apart
>> an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>

>
>




YouGoFirst 03-07-2007 02:47 PM

Re: Rebuild or buy new
 
If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a simple
fix?

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil down
> there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>
> (Or are you burning that much?)
>
>
> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip about
>>1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on it, and I was
>>wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine. Should I have the
>>engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed with the oil situation,
>>should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>
>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it costs
>> to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to take apart
>> an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>

>
>




YouGoFirst 03-07-2007 02:47 PM

Re: Rebuild or buy new
 
If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a simple
fix?

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil down
> there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>
> (Or are you burning that much?)
>
>
> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip about
>>1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on it, and I was
>>wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine. Should I have the
>>engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed with the oil situation,
>>should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>
>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it costs
>> to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to take apart
>> an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>

>
>




Mike Romain 03-07-2007 03:09 PM

Re: Rebuild or buy new
 
Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go
and just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover and
oil pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little tighten
here and there.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

YouGoFirst wrote:
> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a simple
> fix?
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil down
>> there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>
>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>
>>
>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip about
>>> 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on it, and I was
>>> wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine. Should I have the
>>> engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed with the oil situation,
>>> should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>
>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it costs
>>> to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to take apart
>>> an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>

>>

>
>


Mike Romain 03-07-2007 03:09 PM

Re: Rebuild or buy new
 
Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go
and just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover and
oil pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little tighten
here and there.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

YouGoFirst wrote:
> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a simple
> fix?
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil down
>> there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>
>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>
>>
>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip about
>>> 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on it, and I was
>>> wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine. Should I have the
>>> engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed with the oil situation,
>>> should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>
>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it costs
>>> to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to take apart
>>> an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>

>>

>
>


Mike Romain 03-07-2007 03:09 PM

Re: Rebuild or buy new
 
Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go
and just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover and
oil pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little tighten
here and there.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

YouGoFirst wrote:
> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a simple
> fix?
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil down
>> there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>
>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>
>>
>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip about
>>> 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on it, and I was
>>> wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine. Should I have the
>>> engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed with the oil situation,
>>> should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>
>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it costs
>>> to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to take apart
>>> an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>

>>

>
>


billy ray 03-07-2007 04:36 PM

Re: Rebuild or buy new
 
Valve cover gaskets are straight forward, oil pan and main rears are more
problematic but the one that I was thinking of when I asked about peeping
into the throttle body is the plenum gasket which is under the intake
manifold.

It appears to be ........ more common..... in the newer 318 and 360s than in
the older engines of the same family series.

Any competent backyard mechanic should be able to do the labor, the hardest
part will be disconnecting and correctly reconnecting all the stuff attached
to the manifold. Be sure to take lots of pix and label everything.

A FSM will be invaluable for this (as well as any other) project.

If the previous owner(s) kept the oil changed regularly you should have many
more years faithful service with that marvelous engine. It was in use for
more than 30 years.


"YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:tFEHh.43247$as2.2311@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a simple
> fix?
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil
>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>
>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>
>>
>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on it,
>>>and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine. Should
>>>I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed with the oil
>>>situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>
>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it
>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to take
>>> apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




billy ray 03-07-2007 04:36 PM

Re: Rebuild or buy new
 
Valve cover gaskets are straight forward, oil pan and main rears are more
problematic but the one that I was thinking of when I asked about peeping
into the throttle body is the plenum gasket which is under the intake
manifold.

It appears to be ........ more common..... in the newer 318 and 360s than in
the older engines of the same family series.

Any competent backyard mechanic should be able to do the labor, the hardest
part will be disconnecting and correctly reconnecting all the stuff attached
to the manifold. Be sure to take lots of pix and label everything.

A FSM will be invaluable for this (as well as any other) project.

If the previous owner(s) kept the oil changed regularly you should have many
more years faithful service with that marvelous engine. It was in use for
more than 30 years.


"YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:tFEHh.43247$as2.2311@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a simple
> fix?
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil
>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>
>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>
>>
>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on it,
>>>and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine. Should
>>>I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed with the oil
>>>situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>
>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it
>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to take
>>> apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>

>>
>>

>
>





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