Re: Rebuild or buy new
 

Valve cover gaskets are straight forward, oil pan and main rears are more
problematic but the one that I was thinking of when I asked about peeping
into the throttle body is the plenum gasket which is under the intake
manifold.

It appears to be ........ more common..... in the newer 318 and 360s than in
the older engines of the same family series.

Any competent backyard mechanic should be able to do the labor, the hardest
part will be disconnecting and correctly reconnecting all the stuff attached
to the manifold. Be sure to take lots of pix and label everything.

A FSM will be invaluable for this (as well as any other) project.

If the previous owner(s) kept the oil changed regularly you should have many
more years faithful service with that marvelous engine. It was in use for
more than 30 years.


"YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:tFEHh.43247$as2.2311@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a simple
> fix?
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil
>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>
>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>
>>
>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on it,
>>>and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine. Should
>>>I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed with the oil
>>>situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>
>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it
>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to take
>>> apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Rebuild or buy new
 

Not to inflate your ego, but you are so smart. I crawled under my jeep, and
poked around the valve cover, and those areas were visibly wet with oil.
Now I just have to figure out how to get to all of the bolts with a wrench.


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45eed597$0$3923$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go and
> just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover and oil
> pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little tighten here
> and there.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> YouGoFirst wrote:
>> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a simple
>> fix?
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil
>>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>>
>>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>>
>>>
>>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on it,
>>>> and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine.
>>>> Should I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed with
>>>> the oil situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>>
>>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it
>>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to
>>>> take apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>>
>>>
>>

Re: Rebuild or buy new
 

Not to inflate your ego, but you are so smart. I crawled under my jeep, and
poked around the valve cover, and those areas were visibly wet with oil.
Now I just have to figure out how to get to all of the bolts with a wrench.


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45eed597$0$3923$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go and
> just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover and oil
> pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little tighten here
> and there.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> YouGoFirst wrote:
>> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a simple
>> fix?
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil
>>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>>
>>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>>
>>>
>>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on it,
>>>> and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine.
>>>> Should I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed with
>>>> the oil situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>>
>>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it
>>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to
>>>> take apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>>
>>>
>>

Re: Rebuild or buy new
 

Not to inflate your ego, but you are so smart. I crawled under my jeep, and
poked around the valve cover, and those areas were visibly wet with oil.
Now I just have to figure out how to get to all of the bolts with a wrench.


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45eed597$0$3923$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go and
> just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover and oil
> pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little tighten here
> and there.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> YouGoFirst wrote:
>> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a simple
>> fix?
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil
>>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>>
>>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>>
>>>
>>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on it,
>>>> and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine.
>>>> Should I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed with
>>>> the oil situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>>
>>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it
>>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to
>>>> take apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>>
>>>
>>

Re: Rebuild or buy new
 

First would be to determine if it is leaking or burning or leaking thru
valve guides or such. Compression, leak down test, etc.

That few miles shouldn't be burning that much oil...

Crate motor might be cheaper than a rebuild.

YouGoFirst proclaimed:

> I do like my car, I just don't like the oil consumption. Do you have any
> idea of what it costs to rebuild the engine?
>
> "Tom Greening" <tgreening@yomama.com> wrote in message
> news:45eece7b$0$8986$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
>>YouGoFirst wrote:
>>
>>>I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on it,
>>>and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine. Should
>>>I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed with the oil
>>>situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>
>>>If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it costs
>>>to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to take apart
>>>an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>
>>
>>If want you have is a sound vehicle that you are otherwise happy with, you
>>can rebuild the engine a whole lot cheaper than you can buy another
>>vehicle. If you can pull it and install it yourself you will be WAY
>>cheaper.
>
>
>

Re: Rebuild or buy new
 

First would be to determine if it is leaking or burning or leaking thru
valve guides or such. Compression, leak down test, etc.

That few miles shouldn't be burning that much oil...

Crate motor might be cheaper than a rebuild.

YouGoFirst proclaimed:

> I do like my car, I just don't like the oil consumption. Do you have any
> idea of what it costs to rebuild the engine?
>
> "Tom Greening" <tgreening@yomama.com> wrote in message
> news:45eece7b$0$8986$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
>>YouGoFirst wrote:
>>
>>>I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on it,
>>>and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine. Should
>>>I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed with the oil
>>>situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>
>>>If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it costs
>>>to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to take apart
>>>an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>
>>
>>If want you have is a sound vehicle that you are otherwise happy with, you
>>can rebuild the engine a whole lot cheaper than you can buy another
>>vehicle. If you can pull it and install it yourself you will be WAY
>>cheaper.
>
>
>

Re: Rebuild or buy new
 

First would be to determine if it is leaking or burning or leaking thru
valve guides or such. Compression, leak down test, etc.

That few miles shouldn't be burning that much oil...

Crate motor might be cheaper than a rebuild.

YouGoFirst proclaimed:

> I do like my car, I just don't like the oil consumption. Do you have any
> idea of what it costs to rebuild the engine?
>
> "Tom Greening" <tgreening@yomama.com> wrote in message
> news:45eece7b$0$8986$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
>>YouGoFirst wrote:
>>
>>>I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on it,
>>>and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine. Should
>>>I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed with the oil
>>>situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>
>>>If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it costs
>>>to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to take apart
>>>an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>
>>
>>If want you have is a sound vehicle that you are otherwise happy with, you
>>can rebuild the engine a whole lot cheaper than you can buy another
>>vehicle. If you can pull it and install it yourself you will be WAY
>>cheaper.
>
>
>

Re: Rebuild or buy new
 

A quarter inch socket set with universals and wobblies and, of course, a
torque wrench that measures Inch-Pounds.



"YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:KDVHh.45605$as2.18634@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Not to inflate your ego, but you are so smart. I crawled under my jeep,
> and poked around the valve cover, and those areas were visibly wet with
> oil. Now I just have to figure out how to get to all of the bolts with a
> wrench.
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45eed597$0$3923$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go and
>> just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover and oil
>> pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little tighten here
>> and there.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> YouGoFirst wrote:
>>> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a
>>> simple fix?
>>>
>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>>>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil
>>>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>>>
>>>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>>> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on it,
>>>>> and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine.
>>>>> Should I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed with
>>>>> the oil situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it
>>>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to
>>>>> take apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>

Re: Rebuild or buy new
 

A quarter inch socket set with universals and wobblies and, of course, a
torque wrench that measures Inch-Pounds.



"YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:KDVHh.45605$as2.18634@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Not to inflate your ego, but you are so smart. I crawled under my jeep,
> and poked around the valve cover, and those areas were visibly wet with
> oil. Now I just have to figure out how to get to all of the bolts with a
> wrench.
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45eed597$0$3923$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go and
>> just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover and oil
>> pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little tighten here
>> and there.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> YouGoFirst wrote:
>>> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a
>>> simple fix?
>>>
>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>>>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil
>>>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>>>
>>>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>>> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on it,
>>>>> and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine.
>>>>> Should I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed with
>>>>> the oil situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it
>>>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to
>>>>> take apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>

Re: Rebuild or buy new
 

A quarter inch socket set with universals and wobblies and, of course, a
torque wrench that measures Inch-Pounds.



"YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:KDVHh.45605$as2.18634@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Not to inflate your ego, but you are so smart. I crawled under my jeep,
> and poked around the valve cover, and those areas were visibly wet with
> oil. Now I just have to figure out how to get to all of the bolts with a
> wrench.
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45eed597$0$3923$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go and
>> just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover and oil
>> pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little tighten here
>> and there.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> YouGoFirst wrote:
>>> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a
>>> simple fix?
>>>
>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>>>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil
>>>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>>>
>>>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>>> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on it,
>>>>> and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine.
>>>>> Should I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed with
>>>>> the oil situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it
>>>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to
>>>>> take apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>