Rebuild or buy new
03-08-2007, 11:31 AM
#41
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rebuild or buy new
A normal open/boxed end wrench can come in handy to fit the open end on
those suckers hidden under the starter and mounts. It doesn't take much
to turn them tight.
My book says 5 to 9 ft lb on the 1/4" screws and 9-13 for the 5/16"
ones, but that is for the AMC engine. I would think the Chrysler engine
should be close to that but am sure someone here has the proper specs.
Mike
billy ray wrote:
> A quarter inch socket set with universals and wobblies and, of course, a
> torque wrench that measures Inch-Pounds.
>
>
>
> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:KDVHh.45605$as2.18634@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> Not to inflate your ego, but you are so smart. I crawled under my jeep,
>> and poked around the valve cover, and those areas were visibly wet with
>> oil. Now I just have to figure out how to get to all of the bolts with a
>> wrench.
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:45eed597$0$3923$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>> Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go and
>>> just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover and oil
>>> pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little tighten here
>>> and there.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> YouGoFirst wrote:
>>>> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a
>>>> simple fix?
>>>>
>>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>>>>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil
>>>>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>>>>
>>>>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>>>> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on it,
>>>>>> and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine.
>>>>>> Should I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed with
>>>>>> the oil situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it
>>>>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to
>>>>>> take apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>>>>
>
>
those suckers hidden under the starter and mounts. It doesn't take much
to turn them tight.
My book says 5 to 9 ft lb on the 1/4" screws and 9-13 for the 5/16"
ones, but that is for the AMC engine. I would think the Chrysler engine
should be close to that but am sure someone here has the proper specs.
Mike
billy ray wrote:
> A quarter inch socket set with universals and wobblies and, of course, a
> torque wrench that measures Inch-Pounds.
>
>
>
> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:KDVHh.45605$as2.18634@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> Not to inflate your ego, but you are so smart. I crawled under my jeep,
>> and poked around the valve cover, and those areas were visibly wet with
>> oil. Now I just have to figure out how to get to all of the bolts with a
>> wrench.
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:45eed597$0$3923$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>> Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go and
>>> just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover and oil
>>> pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little tighten here
>>> and there.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> YouGoFirst wrote:
>>>> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a
>>>> simple fix?
>>>>
>>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>>>>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil
>>>>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>>>>
>>>>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>>>> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on it,
>>>>>> and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine.
>>>>>> Should I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed with
>>>>>> the oil situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it
>>>>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to
>>>>>> take apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>>>>
>
>
03-08-2007, 11:31 AM
#42
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rebuild or buy new
A normal open/boxed end wrench can come in handy to fit the open end on
those suckers hidden under the starter and mounts. It doesn't take much
to turn them tight.
My book says 5 to 9 ft lb on the 1/4" screws and 9-13 for the 5/16"
ones, but that is for the AMC engine. I would think the Chrysler engine
should be close to that but am sure someone here has the proper specs.
Mike
billy ray wrote:
> A quarter inch socket set with universals and wobblies and, of course, a
> torque wrench that measures Inch-Pounds.
>
>
>
> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:KDVHh.45605$as2.18634@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> Not to inflate your ego, but you are so smart. I crawled under my jeep,
>> and poked around the valve cover, and those areas were visibly wet with
>> oil. Now I just have to figure out how to get to all of the bolts with a
>> wrench.
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:45eed597$0$3923$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>> Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go and
>>> just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover and oil
>>> pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little tighten here
>>> and there.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> YouGoFirst wrote:
>>>> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a
>>>> simple fix?
>>>>
>>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>>>>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil
>>>>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>>>>
>>>>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>>>> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on it,
>>>>>> and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine.
>>>>>> Should I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed with
>>>>>> the oil situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it
>>>>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to
>>>>>> take apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>>>>
>
>
those suckers hidden under the starter and mounts. It doesn't take much
to turn them tight.
My book says 5 to 9 ft lb on the 1/4" screws and 9-13 for the 5/16"
ones, but that is for the AMC engine. I would think the Chrysler engine
should be close to that but am sure someone here has the proper specs.
Mike
billy ray wrote:
> A quarter inch socket set with universals and wobblies and, of course, a
> torque wrench that measures Inch-Pounds.
>
>
>
> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:KDVHh.45605$as2.18634@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> Not to inflate your ego, but you are so smart. I crawled under my jeep,
>> and poked around the valve cover, and those areas were visibly wet with
>> oil. Now I just have to figure out how to get to all of the bolts with a
>> wrench.
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:45eed597$0$3923$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>> Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go and
>>> just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover and oil
>>> pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little tighten here
>>> and there.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> YouGoFirst wrote:
>>>> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a
>>>> simple fix?
>>>>
>>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>>>>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil
>>>>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>>>>
>>>>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>>>> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on it,
>>>>>> and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine.
>>>>>> Should I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed with
>>>>>> the oil situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it
>>>>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to
>>>>>> take apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>>>>
>
>
03-08-2007, 11:31 AM
#43
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rebuild or buy new
A normal open/boxed end wrench can come in handy to fit the open end on
those suckers hidden under the starter and mounts. It doesn't take much
to turn them tight.
My book says 5 to 9 ft lb on the 1/4" screws and 9-13 for the 5/16"
ones, but that is for the AMC engine. I would think the Chrysler engine
should be close to that but am sure someone here has the proper specs.
Mike
billy ray wrote:
> A quarter inch socket set with universals and wobblies and, of course, a
> torque wrench that measures Inch-Pounds.
>
>
>
> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:KDVHh.45605$as2.18634@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> Not to inflate your ego, but you are so smart. I crawled under my jeep,
>> and poked around the valve cover, and those areas were visibly wet with
>> oil. Now I just have to figure out how to get to all of the bolts with a
>> wrench.
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:45eed597$0$3923$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>> Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go and
>>> just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover and oil
>>> pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little tighten here
>>> and there.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> YouGoFirst wrote:
>>>> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a
>>>> simple fix?
>>>>
>>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>>>>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil
>>>>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>>>>
>>>>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>>>> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on it,
>>>>>> and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine.
>>>>>> Should I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed with
>>>>>> the oil situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it
>>>>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to
>>>>>> take apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>>>>
>
>
those suckers hidden under the starter and mounts. It doesn't take much
to turn them tight.
My book says 5 to 9 ft lb on the 1/4" screws and 9-13 for the 5/16"
ones, but that is for the AMC engine. I would think the Chrysler engine
should be close to that but am sure someone here has the proper specs.
Mike
billy ray wrote:
> A quarter inch socket set with universals and wobblies and, of course, a
> torque wrench that measures Inch-Pounds.
>
>
>
> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:KDVHh.45605$as2.18634@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> Not to inflate your ego, but you are so smart. I crawled under my jeep,
>> and poked around the valve cover, and those areas were visibly wet with
>> oil. Now I just have to figure out how to get to all of the bolts with a
>> wrench.
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:45eed597$0$3923$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>> Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go and
>>> just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover and oil
>>> pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little tighten here
>>> and there.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> YouGoFirst wrote:
>>>> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a
>>>> simple fix?
>>>>
>>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>>>>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil
>>>>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>>>>
>>>>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>>>> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on it,
>>>>>> and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine.
>>>>>> Should I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed with
>>>>>> the oil situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it
>>>>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to
>>>>>> take apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>>>>
>
>
03-08-2007, 11:44 AM
#44
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rebuild or buy new
What torque should I tighten things to?
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:47221$45f035ff$422afc51$30912@FUSE.NET...
>A quarter inch socket set with universals and wobblies and, of course, a
>torque wrench that measures Inch-Pounds.
>
>
>
> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:KDVHh.45605$as2.18634@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> Not to inflate your ego, but you are so smart. I crawled under my jeep,
>> and poked around the valve cover, and those areas were visibly wet with
>> oil. Now I just have to figure out how to get to all of the bolts with a
>> wrench.
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:45eed597$0$3923$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>> Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go
>>> and just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover and
>>> oil pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little tighten
>>> here and there.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> YouGoFirst wrote:
>>>> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a
>>>> simple fix?
>>>>
>>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>>>>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil
>>>>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>>>>
>>>>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>>>> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on
>>>>>> it, and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine.
>>>>>> Should I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed
>>>>>> with the oil situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it
>>>>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to
>>>>>> take apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:47221$45f035ff$422afc51$30912@FUSE.NET...
>A quarter inch socket set with universals and wobblies and, of course, a
>torque wrench that measures Inch-Pounds.
>
>
>
> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:KDVHh.45605$as2.18634@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> Not to inflate your ego, but you are so smart. I crawled under my jeep,
>> and poked around the valve cover, and those areas were visibly wet with
>> oil. Now I just have to figure out how to get to all of the bolts with a
>> wrench.
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:45eed597$0$3923$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>> Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go
>>> and just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover and
>>> oil pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little tighten
>>> here and there.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> YouGoFirst wrote:
>>>> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a
>>>> simple fix?
>>>>
>>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>>>>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil
>>>>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>>>>
>>>>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>>>> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on
>>>>>> it, and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine.
>>>>>> Should I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed
>>>>>> with the oil situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it
>>>>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to
>>>>>> take apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>
03-08-2007, 11:44 AM
#45
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rebuild or buy new
What torque should I tighten things to?
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:47221$45f035ff$422afc51$30912@FUSE.NET...
>A quarter inch socket set with universals and wobblies and, of course, a
>torque wrench that measures Inch-Pounds.
>
>
>
> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:KDVHh.45605$as2.18634@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> Not to inflate your ego, but you are so smart. I crawled under my jeep,
>> and poked around the valve cover, and those areas were visibly wet with
>> oil. Now I just have to figure out how to get to all of the bolts with a
>> wrench.
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:45eed597$0$3923$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>> Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go
>>> and just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover and
>>> oil pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little tighten
>>> here and there.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> YouGoFirst wrote:
>>>> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a
>>>> simple fix?
>>>>
>>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>>>>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil
>>>>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>>>>
>>>>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>>>> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on
>>>>>> it, and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine.
>>>>>> Should I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed
>>>>>> with the oil situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it
>>>>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to
>>>>>> take apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:47221$45f035ff$422afc51$30912@FUSE.NET...
>A quarter inch socket set with universals and wobblies and, of course, a
>torque wrench that measures Inch-Pounds.
>
>
>
> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:KDVHh.45605$as2.18634@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> Not to inflate your ego, but you are so smart. I crawled under my jeep,
>> and poked around the valve cover, and those areas were visibly wet with
>> oil. Now I just have to figure out how to get to all of the bolts with a
>> wrench.
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:45eed597$0$3923$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>> Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go
>>> and just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover and
>>> oil pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little tighten
>>> here and there.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> YouGoFirst wrote:
>>>> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a
>>>> simple fix?
>>>>
>>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>>>>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil
>>>>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>>>>
>>>>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>>>> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on
>>>>>> it, and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine.
>>>>>> Should I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed
>>>>>> with the oil situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it
>>>>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to
>>>>>> take apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>
03-08-2007, 11:44 AM
#46
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rebuild or buy new
What torque should I tighten things to?
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:47221$45f035ff$422afc51$30912@FUSE.NET...
>A quarter inch socket set with universals and wobblies and, of course, a
>torque wrench that measures Inch-Pounds.
>
>
>
> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:KDVHh.45605$as2.18634@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> Not to inflate your ego, but you are so smart. I crawled under my jeep,
>> and poked around the valve cover, and those areas were visibly wet with
>> oil. Now I just have to figure out how to get to all of the bolts with a
>> wrench.
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:45eed597$0$3923$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>> Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go
>>> and just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover and
>>> oil pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little tighten
>>> here and there.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> YouGoFirst wrote:
>>>> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a
>>>> simple fix?
>>>>
>>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>>>>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil
>>>>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>>>>
>>>>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>>>> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on
>>>>>> it, and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine.
>>>>>> Should I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed
>>>>>> with the oil situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it
>>>>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to
>>>>>> take apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:47221$45f035ff$422afc51$30912@FUSE.NET...
>A quarter inch socket set with universals and wobblies and, of course, a
>torque wrench that measures Inch-Pounds.
>
>
>
> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:KDVHh.45605$as2.18634@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> Not to inflate your ego, but you are so smart. I crawled under my jeep,
>> and poked around the valve cover, and those areas were visibly wet with
>> oil. Now I just have to figure out how to get to all of the bolts with a
>> wrench.
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:45eed597$0$3923$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>> Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go
>>> and just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover and
>>> oil pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little tighten
>>> here and there.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> YouGoFirst wrote:
>>>> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a
>>>> simple fix?
>>>>
>>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>>>>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil
>>>>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>>>>
>>>>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>>>> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on
>>>>>> it, and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine.
>>>>>> Should I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed
>>>>>> with the oil situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it
>>>>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to
>>>>>> take apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>
03-08-2007, 04:47 PM
#47
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rebuild or buy new
The torque specs are for replacement of the gaskets with new parts. I
don't believe they are valid for an old gasket or to slow down a leak.
I use a 1/4" drive socket wrench and my small finger on the end of the
handle applying the pressure on the old ones. I stop if I see the
slightest deformation of the metal happening. I have large and strong
hands and figure my last finger can put the 3-5 or so ft lb of torque on
them.
When I sneak the open end of a wrench onto a bolt head vertically in a
tight space, I use mini vise grips clamped onto the wrench shaft close
to the box end to turn it. This is tons of power for those bolts.
Mike
YouGoFirst wrote:
> What torque should I tighten things to?
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:47221$45f035ff$422afc51$30912@FUSE.NET...
>> A quarter inch socket set with universals and wobblies and, of course, a
>> torque wrench that measures Inch-Pounds.
>>
>>
>>
>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:KDVHh.45605$as2.18634@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>> Not to inflate your ego, but you are so smart. I crawled under my jeep,
>>> and poked around the valve cover, and those areas were visibly wet with
>>> oil. Now I just have to figure out how to get to all of the bolts with a
>>> wrench.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:45eed597$0$3923$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>>> Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go
>>>> and just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover and
>>>> oil pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little tighten
>>>> here and there.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>
>>>> YouGoFirst wrote:
>>>>> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a
>>>>> simple fix?
>>>>>
>>>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>>>>>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil
>>>>>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>>>>> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on
>>>>>>> it, and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine.
>>>>>>> Should I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed
>>>>>>> with the oil situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it
>>>>>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to
>>>>>>> take apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>>>>>
>>
>
>
don't believe they are valid for an old gasket or to slow down a leak.
I use a 1/4" drive socket wrench and my small finger on the end of the
handle applying the pressure on the old ones. I stop if I see the
slightest deformation of the metal happening. I have large and strong
hands and figure my last finger can put the 3-5 or so ft lb of torque on
them.
When I sneak the open end of a wrench onto a bolt head vertically in a
tight space, I use mini vise grips clamped onto the wrench shaft close
to the box end to turn it. This is tons of power for those bolts.
Mike
YouGoFirst wrote:
> What torque should I tighten things to?
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:47221$45f035ff$422afc51$30912@FUSE.NET...
>> A quarter inch socket set with universals and wobblies and, of course, a
>> torque wrench that measures Inch-Pounds.
>>
>>
>>
>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:KDVHh.45605$as2.18634@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>> Not to inflate your ego, but you are so smart. I crawled under my jeep,
>>> and poked around the valve cover, and those areas were visibly wet with
>>> oil. Now I just have to figure out how to get to all of the bolts with a
>>> wrench.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:45eed597$0$3923$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>>> Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go
>>>> and just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover and
>>>> oil pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little tighten
>>>> here and there.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>
>>>> YouGoFirst wrote:
>>>>> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a
>>>>> simple fix?
>>>>>
>>>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>>>>>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil
>>>>>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>>>>> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on
>>>>>>> it, and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine.
>>>>>>> Should I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed
>>>>>>> with the oil situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it
>>>>>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to
>>>>>>> take apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>>>>>
>>
>
>
03-08-2007, 04:47 PM
#48
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rebuild or buy new
The torque specs are for replacement of the gaskets with new parts. I
don't believe they are valid for an old gasket or to slow down a leak.
I use a 1/4" drive socket wrench and my small finger on the end of the
handle applying the pressure on the old ones. I stop if I see the
slightest deformation of the metal happening. I have large and strong
hands and figure my last finger can put the 3-5 or so ft lb of torque on
them.
When I sneak the open end of a wrench onto a bolt head vertically in a
tight space, I use mini vise grips clamped onto the wrench shaft close
to the box end to turn it. This is tons of power for those bolts.
Mike
YouGoFirst wrote:
> What torque should I tighten things to?
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:47221$45f035ff$422afc51$30912@FUSE.NET...
>> A quarter inch socket set with universals and wobblies and, of course, a
>> torque wrench that measures Inch-Pounds.
>>
>>
>>
>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:KDVHh.45605$as2.18634@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>> Not to inflate your ego, but you are so smart. I crawled under my jeep,
>>> and poked around the valve cover, and those areas were visibly wet with
>>> oil. Now I just have to figure out how to get to all of the bolts with a
>>> wrench.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:45eed597$0$3923$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>>> Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go
>>>> and just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover and
>>>> oil pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little tighten
>>>> here and there.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>
>>>> YouGoFirst wrote:
>>>>> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a
>>>>> simple fix?
>>>>>
>>>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>>>>>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil
>>>>>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>>>>> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on
>>>>>>> it, and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine.
>>>>>>> Should I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed
>>>>>>> with the oil situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it
>>>>>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to
>>>>>>> take apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>>>>>
>>
>
>
don't believe they are valid for an old gasket or to slow down a leak.
I use a 1/4" drive socket wrench and my small finger on the end of the
handle applying the pressure on the old ones. I stop if I see the
slightest deformation of the metal happening. I have large and strong
hands and figure my last finger can put the 3-5 or so ft lb of torque on
them.
When I sneak the open end of a wrench onto a bolt head vertically in a
tight space, I use mini vise grips clamped onto the wrench shaft close
to the box end to turn it. This is tons of power for those bolts.
Mike
YouGoFirst wrote:
> What torque should I tighten things to?
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:47221$45f035ff$422afc51$30912@FUSE.NET...
>> A quarter inch socket set with universals and wobblies and, of course, a
>> torque wrench that measures Inch-Pounds.
>>
>>
>>
>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:KDVHh.45605$as2.18634@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>> Not to inflate your ego, but you are so smart. I crawled under my jeep,
>>> and poked around the valve cover, and those areas were visibly wet with
>>> oil. Now I just have to figure out how to get to all of the bolts with a
>>> wrench.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:45eed597$0$3923$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>>> Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go
>>>> and just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover and
>>>> oil pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little tighten
>>>> here and there.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>
>>>> YouGoFirst wrote:
>>>>> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a
>>>>> simple fix?
>>>>>
>>>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>>>>>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil
>>>>>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>>>>> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on
>>>>>>> it, and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine.
>>>>>>> Should I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed
>>>>>>> with the oil situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it
>>>>>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to
>>>>>>> take apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>>>>>
>>
>
>
03-08-2007, 04:47 PM
#49
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rebuild or buy new
The torque specs are for replacement of the gaskets with new parts. I
don't believe they are valid for an old gasket or to slow down a leak.
I use a 1/4" drive socket wrench and my small finger on the end of the
handle applying the pressure on the old ones. I stop if I see the
slightest deformation of the metal happening. I have large and strong
hands and figure my last finger can put the 3-5 or so ft lb of torque on
them.
When I sneak the open end of a wrench onto a bolt head vertically in a
tight space, I use mini vise grips clamped onto the wrench shaft close
to the box end to turn it. This is tons of power for those bolts.
Mike
YouGoFirst wrote:
> What torque should I tighten things to?
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:47221$45f035ff$422afc51$30912@FUSE.NET...
>> A quarter inch socket set with universals and wobblies and, of course, a
>> torque wrench that measures Inch-Pounds.
>>
>>
>>
>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:KDVHh.45605$as2.18634@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>> Not to inflate your ego, but you are so smart. I crawled under my jeep,
>>> and poked around the valve cover, and those areas were visibly wet with
>>> oil. Now I just have to figure out how to get to all of the bolts with a
>>> wrench.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:45eed597$0$3923$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>>> Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go
>>>> and just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover and
>>>> oil pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little tighten
>>>> here and there.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>
>>>> YouGoFirst wrote:
>>>>> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a
>>>>> simple fix?
>>>>>
>>>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>>>>>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil
>>>>>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>>>>> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on
>>>>>>> it, and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine.
>>>>>>> Should I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed
>>>>>>> with the oil situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it
>>>>>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to
>>>>>>> take apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>>>>>
>>
>
>
don't believe they are valid for an old gasket or to slow down a leak.
I use a 1/4" drive socket wrench and my small finger on the end of the
handle applying the pressure on the old ones. I stop if I see the
slightest deformation of the metal happening. I have large and strong
hands and figure my last finger can put the 3-5 or so ft lb of torque on
them.
When I sneak the open end of a wrench onto a bolt head vertically in a
tight space, I use mini vise grips clamped onto the wrench shaft close
to the box end to turn it. This is tons of power for those bolts.
Mike
YouGoFirst wrote:
> What torque should I tighten things to?
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:47221$45f035ff$422afc51$30912@FUSE.NET...
>> A quarter inch socket set with universals and wobblies and, of course, a
>> torque wrench that measures Inch-Pounds.
>>
>>
>>
>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:KDVHh.45605$as2.18634@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>> Not to inflate your ego, but you are so smart. I crawled under my jeep,
>>> and poked around the valve cover, and those areas were visibly wet with
>>> oil. Now I just have to figure out how to get to all of the bolts with a
>>> wrench.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:45eed597$0$3923$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>>> Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go
>>>> and just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover and
>>>> oil pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little tighten
>>>> here and there.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>
>>>> YouGoFirst wrote:
>>>>> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a
>>>>> simple fix?
>>>>>
>>>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
>>>>>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of oil
>>>>>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Or are you burning that much?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and burn/drip
>>>>>>> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on
>>>>>>> it, and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the engine.
>>>>>>> Should I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed
>>>>>>> with the oil situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what it
>>>>>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy to
>>>>>>> take apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
>>>>>>>
>>
>
>
03-08-2007, 06:11 PM
#50
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rebuild or buy new
I use my thumb and index fingers on a quarter inch drive, kind of like
the bolts some Hot Rodders use on their valve covers:
http://www.speco.com.au/images/AccValveCoverWing.jpg
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"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45f0848d$0$6367$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> The torque specs are for replacement of the gaskets with new parts. I
> don't believe they are valid for an old gasket or to slow down a leak.
>
> I use a 1/4" drive socket wrench and my small finger on the end of the
> handle applying the pressure on the old ones. I stop if I see the
> slightest deformation of the metal happening. I have large and strong
> hands and figure my last finger can put the 3-5 or so ft lb of torque on
> them.
>
> When I sneak the open end of a wrench onto a bolt head vertically in a
> tight space, I use mini vise grips clamped onto the wrench shaft close
> to the box end to turn it. This is tons of power for those bolts.
>
> Mike
>
> YouGoFirst wrote:
> > What torque should I tighten things to?
> >
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:47221$45f035ff$422afc51$30912@FUSE.NET...
> >> A quarter inch socket set with universals and wobblies and, of course,
a
> >> torque wrench that measures Inch-Pounds.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:KDVHh.45605$as2.18634@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >>> Not to inflate your ego, but you are so smart. I crawled under my
jeep,
> >>> and poked around the valve cover, and those areas were visibly wet
with
> >>> oil. Now I just have to figure out how to get to all of the bolts with
a
> >>> wrench.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>> news:45eed597$0$3923$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> >>>> Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go
> >>>> and just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover
and
> >>>> oil pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little
tighten
> >>>> here and there.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike
> >>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>>
> >>>> YouGoFirst wrote:
> >>>>> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a
> >>>>> simple fix?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
> >>>>>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of
oil
> >>>>>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> (Or are you burning that much?)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >>>>>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and
burn/drip
> >>>>>>> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on
> >>>>>>> it, and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the
engine.
> >>>>>>> Should I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed
> >>>>>>> with the oil situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what
it
> >>>>>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy
to
> >>>>>>> take apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
> >>>>>>>
> >>
> >
> >
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the bolts some Hot Rodders use on their valve covers:
http://www.speco.com.au/images/AccValveCoverWing.jpg
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45f0848d$0$6367$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> The torque specs are for replacement of the gaskets with new parts. I
> don't believe they are valid for an old gasket or to slow down a leak.
>
> I use a 1/4" drive socket wrench and my small finger on the end of the
> handle applying the pressure on the old ones. I stop if I see the
> slightest deformation of the metal happening. I have large and strong
> hands and figure my last finger can put the 3-5 or so ft lb of torque on
> them.
>
> When I sneak the open end of a wrench onto a bolt head vertically in a
> tight space, I use mini vise grips clamped onto the wrench shaft close
> to the box end to turn it. This is tons of power for those bolts.
>
> Mike
>
> YouGoFirst wrote:
> > What torque should I tighten things to?
> >
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:47221$45f035ff$422afc51$30912@FUSE.NET...
> >> A quarter inch socket set with universals and wobblies and, of course,
a
> >> torque wrench that measures Inch-Pounds.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:KDVHh.45605$as2.18634@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >>> Not to inflate your ego, but you are so smart. I crawled under my
jeep,
> >>> and poked around the valve cover, and those areas were visibly wet
with
> >>> oil. Now I just have to figure out how to get to all of the bolts with
a
> >>> wrench.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >>> news:45eed597$0$3923$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> >>>> Seals and gaskets are relatively easy to replace. I'll bet if you go
> >>>> and just try with your fingers you will find a bunch of valve cover
and
> >>>> oil pan bolts finger loose. Sometimes all it needs is a little
tighten
> >>>> here and there.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike
> >>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>>
> >>>> YouGoFirst wrote:
> >>>>> If it needs a new seal, is that difficult to replace, or is that a
> >>>>> simple fix?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:deb07$45eecebd$422afc51$27868@FUSE.NET...
> >>>>>> Take a peak down the throttle body and see if there is a layer of
oil
> >>>>>> down there. You might just need a seal replacement.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> (Or are you burning that much?)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "YouGoFirst" <yougofirst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:Q1AHh.42564$as2.7039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >>>>>>> I have a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with the V8 engine, and
burn/drip
> >>>>>>> about 1 quart of oil every 6 weeks. It has nearly 135000 miles on
> >>>>>>> it, and I was wondering what is the best thing to do for the
engine.
> >>>>>>> Should I have the engine rebuilt, or if I am sufficiently annoyed
> >>>>>>> with the oil situation, should I begin looking for a new jeep?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If you think that rebuilding is best, can you tell me about what
it
> >>>>>>> costs to have done? (I am handy around an engine, but not handy
to
> >>>>>>> take apart an engine.) Thanks for any help you can give.
> >>>>>>>
> >>
> >
> >
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