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HomeBrewer 04-01-2005 09:56 PM

Re: rear seal leak
 
Man I'm bummed that the news.individual.net started charging for the
service. It's back the the isp service for me.

> Are you running at 240 degrees? Switch to 20/50.
> Your external oil pump commonly gets smacked by the differential,
> if the bump stops were ever missing. It's pressure relief may be jammed
> wide open. Jammed shut, usually blows the oil filter off. Usually takes
> buy the whole timing chain cover:


Nope, it runs right at 195 and has no unusual noise. The oil pump has new
parts and has not been smacked.




HomeBrewer 04-01-2005 10:14 PM

Re: rear seal leak
 
I had my mechanic tear it down after I got it. It has new pistons, rings,
cam etc, just like the receipts that came with it said, but valves were
mismatched. I had to have the valves, guides and springs replaced, but
internally it was good. I'll admit I spent too much on this small v8, I
should have went with a 401 or 350 sb for the $. It dyno'd at 210 hp.


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:424D5390.AE3E7AD3@sympatico.ca...
> Man oh man I sure hate to see such bad rip offs... He got took!
>
> I would be looking for the ass@#$% that sold it to me with a base ball
> bat at least.
>
> How do people live with themselves after that kind of a rip off?
>
> No oil pressure and leaky seals. Rebuilt my ass. Repainted maybe.
>
> The engine I retired still had 12 to 15 psi at it's hottest idle and the
> 'used' one I put in has 20 - 25 psi at it's hottest idle.
>
> Do you think maybe the oil pump is toast so the oil is just full of gas
> killing the pressure? Could he get that lucky?
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>>
>> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/2004_06_01_85cj7_archive.html
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>> >
>> > Ouch, I hope you are mistaken about that rebuild Bill....
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's




HomeBrewer 04-01-2005 10:14 PM

Re: rear seal leak
 
I had my mechanic tear it down after I got it. It has new pistons, rings,
cam etc, just like the receipts that came with it said, but valves were
mismatched. I had to have the valves, guides and springs replaced, but
internally it was good. I'll admit I spent too much on this small v8, I
should have went with a 401 or 350 sb for the $. It dyno'd at 210 hp.


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:424D5390.AE3E7AD3@sympatico.ca...
> Man oh man I sure hate to see such bad rip offs... He got took!
>
> I would be looking for the ass@#$% that sold it to me with a base ball
> bat at least.
>
> How do people live with themselves after that kind of a rip off?
>
> No oil pressure and leaky seals. Rebuilt my ass. Repainted maybe.
>
> The engine I retired still had 12 to 15 psi at it's hottest idle and the
> 'used' one I put in has 20 - 25 psi at it's hottest idle.
>
> Do you think maybe the oil pump is toast so the oil is just full of gas
> killing the pressure? Could he get that lucky?
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>>
>> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/2004_06_01_85cj7_archive.html
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>> >
>> > Ouch, I hope you are mistaken about that rebuild Bill....
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's




HomeBrewer 04-01-2005 10:14 PM

Re: rear seal leak
 
I had my mechanic tear it down after I got it. It has new pistons, rings,
cam etc, just like the receipts that came with it said, but valves were
mismatched. I had to have the valves, guides and springs replaced, but
internally it was good. I'll admit I spent too much on this small v8, I
should have went with a 401 or 350 sb for the $. It dyno'd at 210 hp.


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:424D5390.AE3E7AD3@sympatico.ca...
> Man oh man I sure hate to see such bad rip offs... He got took!
>
> I would be looking for the ass@#$% that sold it to me with a base ball
> bat at least.
>
> How do people live with themselves after that kind of a rip off?
>
> No oil pressure and leaky seals. Rebuilt my ass. Repainted maybe.
>
> The engine I retired still had 12 to 15 psi at it's hottest idle and the
> 'used' one I put in has 20 - 25 psi at it's hottest idle.
>
> Do you think maybe the oil pump is toast so the oil is just full of gas
> killing the pressure? Could he get that lucky?
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>>
>> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/2004_06_01_85cj7_archive.html
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>> >
>> > Ouch, I hope you are mistaken about that rebuild Bill....
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's




HomeBrewer 04-01-2005 10:18 PM

Re: rear seal leak
 



> How many miles on the engine?

500 now

> The book calls for 10 psi per 1000 rpm, so your hot idle isn't too far
> out. If it was too low, the valve train would start to get noisy after
> idling for a while.


It has no unusual noice at all, and plenty of power. It idles at ~7-800 and
psi is above 10 at hot idle. I posted 5-10 psi, but after rechecking the
gauge it's above 10 psi at it's lowest.



> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> HomeBrewer wrote:
>>
>> would a leaking rear seal cause low oil pressure at idle when warm? Jeep
>> in
>> question has 60 psi cold - then drops to 5-10 at idle after it warms up.
>> new
>> mechanical autometer guage too.
>>
>> --
>> HomeBrewer




HomeBrewer 04-01-2005 10:18 PM

Re: rear seal leak
 



> How many miles on the engine?

500 now

> The book calls for 10 psi per 1000 rpm, so your hot idle isn't too far
> out. If it was too low, the valve train would start to get noisy after
> idling for a while.


It has no unusual noice at all, and plenty of power. It idles at ~7-800 and
psi is above 10 at hot idle. I posted 5-10 psi, but after rechecking the
gauge it's above 10 psi at it's lowest.



> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> HomeBrewer wrote:
>>
>> would a leaking rear seal cause low oil pressure at idle when warm? Jeep
>> in
>> question has 60 psi cold - then drops to 5-10 at idle after it warms up.
>> new
>> mechanical autometer guage too.
>>
>> --
>> HomeBrewer




HomeBrewer 04-01-2005 10:18 PM

Re: rear seal leak
 



> How many miles on the engine?

500 now

> The book calls for 10 psi per 1000 rpm, so your hot idle isn't too far
> out. If it was too low, the valve train would start to get noisy after
> idling for a while.


It has no unusual noice at all, and plenty of power. It idles at ~7-800 and
psi is above 10 at hot idle. I posted 5-10 psi, but after rechecking the
gauge it's above 10 psi at it's lowest.



> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> HomeBrewer wrote:
>>
>> would a leaking rear seal cause low oil pressure at idle when warm? Jeep
>> in
>> question has 60 psi cold - then drops to 5-10 at idle after it warms up.
>> new
>> mechanical autometer guage too.
>>
>> --
>> HomeBrewer




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-02-2005 02:09 AM

Re: rear seal leak
 
That's still way too low, something wrong! A V8 by any manufacture
should never be less than forty pounds as we see in these mechanic's
guide lines: http://www.----------.com/amchpchart.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> It has no unusual noice at all, and plenty of power. It idles at ~7-800 and
> psi is above 10 at hot idle. I posted 5-10 psi, but after rechecking the
> gauge it's above 10 psi at it's lowest.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-02-2005 02:09 AM

Re: rear seal leak
 
That's still way too low, something wrong! A V8 by any manufacture
should never be less than forty pounds as we see in these mechanic's
guide lines: http://www.----------.com/amchpchart.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> It has no unusual noice at all, and plenty of power. It idles at ~7-800 and
> psi is above 10 at hot idle. I posted 5-10 psi, but after rechecking the
> gauge it's above 10 psi at it's lowest.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-02-2005 02:09 AM

Re: rear seal leak
 
That's still way too low, something wrong! A V8 by any manufacture
should never be less than forty pounds as we see in these mechanic's
guide lines: http://www.----------.com/amchpchart.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> It has no unusual noice at all, and plenty of power. It idles at ~7-800 and
> psi is above 10 at hot idle. I posted 5-10 psi, but after rechecking the
> gauge it's above 10 psi at it's lowest.



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