Rear brakes are backwards?
#21
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Re: Rear brakes are backwards?
It sounds like the backing plates are on the wrong side. This can only
happen if both plates were removed at the same time, then put back on the
wrong side. This could not have happened at the factory.
"Stephen R. Conrad" <sconrad@telecommunity.to> wrote in message
news:2s8d68F1htqasU1@uni-berlin.de...
> On my 86 Commanche 2wd longbed the rear brakes are configured just the
> opposite from any picture or description I've seen in the manuals (Clymer,
> Chilton, Haynes, ebay CD's, part's store computers). What I mean is the
> pictures all show the parking brake cable entering the backing plate from
> the front of the car. On mine, the cables curve around and come in from
> the rear. That places the parking brake lever found inside the drum on the
> leading brake shoe instead of the trailing shoe like is shown in the
> pictures. This also affects how other hardware inside the drum is
> arranged. Like the self adjuster mechanism (screw, lever, cable and
> spring) and the strut that goes between the shoe and the parking brake
> lever. Do I reverse all these other parts by using the left hardware kit
> on the right brake and vice versa? Several of these parts were left out by
> a previous owner who probably had the same questions.
>
happen if both plates were removed at the same time, then put back on the
wrong side. This could not have happened at the factory.
"Stephen R. Conrad" <sconrad@telecommunity.to> wrote in message
news:2s8d68F1htqasU1@uni-berlin.de...
> On my 86 Commanche 2wd longbed the rear brakes are configured just the
> opposite from any picture or description I've seen in the manuals (Clymer,
> Chilton, Haynes, ebay CD's, part's store computers). What I mean is the
> pictures all show the parking brake cable entering the backing plate from
> the front of the car. On mine, the cables curve around and come in from
> the rear. That places the parking brake lever found inside the drum on the
> leading brake shoe instead of the trailing shoe like is shown in the
> pictures. This also affects how other hardware inside the drum is
> arranged. Like the self adjuster mechanism (screw, lever, cable and
> spring) and the strut that goes between the shoe and the parking brake
> lever. Do I reverse all these other parts by using the left hardware kit
> on the right brake and vice versa? Several of these parts were left out by
> a previous owner who probably had the same questions.
>
#22
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Re: Rear brakes are backwards?
It sounds like the backing plates are on the wrong side. This can only
happen if both plates were removed at the same time, then put back on the
wrong side. This could not have happened at the factory.
"Stephen R. Conrad" <sconrad@telecommunity.to> wrote in message
news:2s8d68F1htqasU1@uni-berlin.de...
> On my 86 Commanche 2wd longbed the rear brakes are configured just the
> opposite from any picture or description I've seen in the manuals (Clymer,
> Chilton, Haynes, ebay CD's, part's store computers). What I mean is the
> pictures all show the parking brake cable entering the backing plate from
> the front of the car. On mine, the cables curve around and come in from
> the rear. That places the parking brake lever found inside the drum on the
> leading brake shoe instead of the trailing shoe like is shown in the
> pictures. This also affects how other hardware inside the drum is
> arranged. Like the self adjuster mechanism (screw, lever, cable and
> spring) and the strut that goes between the shoe and the parking brake
> lever. Do I reverse all these other parts by using the left hardware kit
> on the right brake and vice versa? Several of these parts were left out by
> a previous owner who probably had the same questions.
>
happen if both plates were removed at the same time, then put back on the
wrong side. This could not have happened at the factory.
"Stephen R. Conrad" <sconrad@telecommunity.to> wrote in message
news:2s8d68F1htqasU1@uni-berlin.de...
> On my 86 Commanche 2wd longbed the rear brakes are configured just the
> opposite from any picture or description I've seen in the manuals (Clymer,
> Chilton, Haynes, ebay CD's, part's store computers). What I mean is the
> pictures all show the parking brake cable entering the backing plate from
> the front of the car. On mine, the cables curve around and come in from
> the rear. That places the parking brake lever found inside the drum on the
> leading brake shoe instead of the trailing shoe like is shown in the
> pictures. This also affects how other hardware inside the drum is
> arranged. Like the self adjuster mechanism (screw, lever, cable and
> spring) and the strut that goes between the shoe and the parking brake
> lever. Do I reverse all these other parts by using the left hardware kit
> on the right brake and vice versa? Several of these parts were left out by
> a previous owner who probably had the same questions.
>
#23
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Re: Rear brakes are backwards?
You know what, I think you probably need a factory shop manual to accurately
assess the problem you think you have.
I can't imagine why the brake cables would go around to the back of the
vehicle in their approach to the brake drums, but that cold be correct. My
brake cables come in to the brake assemblies from the front. You described
the brake cables as not being stretched, and if they were supposed to come
from the front but came from the rear instead, they would most certainly be
short.
I said earlier that the backing plates were on the wrong side, but I am not
so sure I was correct when I said that. I can say without equivocation that
Haynes and Chilton are both notoriaously inaccurate when it comes to things
like this, and the FSM is by far the more reliable source of information.
The FSM will run you about $80, give or take, but the information is well
worth the added cost as compared to Haynes and Chilton.
"Stephen R. Conrad" <sconrad@telecommunity.to> wrote in message
news:2s8d68F1htqasU1@uni-berlin.de...
> On my 86 Commanche 2wd longbed the rear brakes are configured just the
> opposite from any picture or description I've seen in the manuals (Clymer,
> Chilton, Haynes, ebay CD's, part's store computers). What I mean is the
> pictures all show the parking brake cable entering the backing plate from
> the front of the car. On mine, the cables curve around and come in from
> the rear. That places the parking brake lever found inside the drum on the
> leading brake shoe instead of the trailing shoe like is shown in the
> pictures. This also affects how other hardware inside the drum is
> arranged. Like the self adjuster mechanism (screw, lever, cable and
> spring) and the strut that goes between the shoe and the parking brake
> lever. Do I reverse all these other parts by using the left hardware kit
> on the right brake and vice versa? Several of these parts were left out by
> a previous owner who probably had the same questions.
>
assess the problem you think you have.
I can't imagine why the brake cables would go around to the back of the
vehicle in their approach to the brake drums, but that cold be correct. My
brake cables come in to the brake assemblies from the front. You described
the brake cables as not being stretched, and if they were supposed to come
from the front but came from the rear instead, they would most certainly be
short.
I said earlier that the backing plates were on the wrong side, but I am not
so sure I was correct when I said that. I can say without equivocation that
Haynes and Chilton are both notoriaously inaccurate when it comes to things
like this, and the FSM is by far the more reliable source of information.
The FSM will run you about $80, give or take, but the information is well
worth the added cost as compared to Haynes and Chilton.
"Stephen R. Conrad" <sconrad@telecommunity.to> wrote in message
news:2s8d68F1htqasU1@uni-berlin.de...
> On my 86 Commanche 2wd longbed the rear brakes are configured just the
> opposite from any picture or description I've seen in the manuals (Clymer,
> Chilton, Haynes, ebay CD's, part's store computers). What I mean is the
> pictures all show the parking brake cable entering the backing plate from
> the front of the car. On mine, the cables curve around and come in from
> the rear. That places the parking brake lever found inside the drum on the
> leading brake shoe instead of the trailing shoe like is shown in the
> pictures. This also affects how other hardware inside the drum is
> arranged. Like the self adjuster mechanism (screw, lever, cable and
> spring) and the strut that goes between the shoe and the parking brake
> lever. Do I reverse all these other parts by using the left hardware kit
> on the right brake and vice versa? Several of these parts were left out by
> a previous owner who probably had the same questions.
>
#24
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Re: Rear brakes are backwards?
You know what, I think you probably need a factory shop manual to accurately
assess the problem you think you have.
I can't imagine why the brake cables would go around to the back of the
vehicle in their approach to the brake drums, but that cold be correct. My
brake cables come in to the brake assemblies from the front. You described
the brake cables as not being stretched, and if they were supposed to come
from the front but came from the rear instead, they would most certainly be
short.
I said earlier that the backing plates were on the wrong side, but I am not
so sure I was correct when I said that. I can say without equivocation that
Haynes and Chilton are both notoriaously inaccurate when it comes to things
like this, and the FSM is by far the more reliable source of information.
The FSM will run you about $80, give or take, but the information is well
worth the added cost as compared to Haynes and Chilton.
"Stephen R. Conrad" <sconrad@telecommunity.to> wrote in message
news:2s8d68F1htqasU1@uni-berlin.de...
> On my 86 Commanche 2wd longbed the rear brakes are configured just the
> opposite from any picture or description I've seen in the manuals (Clymer,
> Chilton, Haynes, ebay CD's, part's store computers). What I mean is the
> pictures all show the parking brake cable entering the backing plate from
> the front of the car. On mine, the cables curve around and come in from
> the rear. That places the parking brake lever found inside the drum on the
> leading brake shoe instead of the trailing shoe like is shown in the
> pictures. This also affects how other hardware inside the drum is
> arranged. Like the self adjuster mechanism (screw, lever, cable and
> spring) and the strut that goes between the shoe and the parking brake
> lever. Do I reverse all these other parts by using the left hardware kit
> on the right brake and vice versa? Several of these parts were left out by
> a previous owner who probably had the same questions.
>
assess the problem you think you have.
I can't imagine why the brake cables would go around to the back of the
vehicle in their approach to the brake drums, but that cold be correct. My
brake cables come in to the brake assemblies from the front. You described
the brake cables as not being stretched, and if they were supposed to come
from the front but came from the rear instead, they would most certainly be
short.
I said earlier that the backing plates were on the wrong side, but I am not
so sure I was correct when I said that. I can say without equivocation that
Haynes and Chilton are both notoriaously inaccurate when it comes to things
like this, and the FSM is by far the more reliable source of information.
The FSM will run you about $80, give or take, but the information is well
worth the added cost as compared to Haynes and Chilton.
"Stephen R. Conrad" <sconrad@telecommunity.to> wrote in message
news:2s8d68F1htqasU1@uni-berlin.de...
> On my 86 Commanche 2wd longbed the rear brakes are configured just the
> opposite from any picture or description I've seen in the manuals (Clymer,
> Chilton, Haynes, ebay CD's, part's store computers). What I mean is the
> pictures all show the parking brake cable entering the backing plate from
> the front of the car. On mine, the cables curve around and come in from
> the rear. That places the parking brake lever found inside the drum on the
> leading brake shoe instead of the trailing shoe like is shown in the
> pictures. This also affects how other hardware inside the drum is
> arranged. Like the self adjuster mechanism (screw, lever, cable and
> spring) and the strut that goes between the shoe and the parking brake
> lever. Do I reverse all these other parts by using the left hardware kit
> on the right brake and vice versa? Several of these parts were left out by
> a previous owner who probably had the same questions.
>
#25
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Re: Rear brakes are backwards?
You know what, I think you probably need a factory shop manual to accurately
assess the problem you think you have.
I can't imagine why the brake cables would go around to the back of the
vehicle in their approach to the brake drums, but that cold be correct. My
brake cables come in to the brake assemblies from the front. You described
the brake cables as not being stretched, and if they were supposed to come
from the front but came from the rear instead, they would most certainly be
short.
I said earlier that the backing plates were on the wrong side, but I am not
so sure I was correct when I said that. I can say without equivocation that
Haynes and Chilton are both notoriaously inaccurate when it comes to things
like this, and the FSM is by far the more reliable source of information.
The FSM will run you about $80, give or take, but the information is well
worth the added cost as compared to Haynes and Chilton.
"Stephen R. Conrad" <sconrad@telecommunity.to> wrote in message
news:2s8d68F1htqasU1@uni-berlin.de...
> On my 86 Commanche 2wd longbed the rear brakes are configured just the
> opposite from any picture or description I've seen in the manuals (Clymer,
> Chilton, Haynes, ebay CD's, part's store computers). What I mean is the
> pictures all show the parking brake cable entering the backing plate from
> the front of the car. On mine, the cables curve around and come in from
> the rear. That places the parking brake lever found inside the drum on the
> leading brake shoe instead of the trailing shoe like is shown in the
> pictures. This also affects how other hardware inside the drum is
> arranged. Like the self adjuster mechanism (screw, lever, cable and
> spring) and the strut that goes between the shoe and the parking brake
> lever. Do I reverse all these other parts by using the left hardware kit
> on the right brake and vice versa? Several of these parts were left out by
> a previous owner who probably had the same questions.
>
assess the problem you think you have.
I can't imagine why the brake cables would go around to the back of the
vehicle in their approach to the brake drums, but that cold be correct. My
brake cables come in to the brake assemblies from the front. You described
the brake cables as not being stretched, and if they were supposed to come
from the front but came from the rear instead, they would most certainly be
short.
I said earlier that the backing plates were on the wrong side, but I am not
so sure I was correct when I said that. I can say without equivocation that
Haynes and Chilton are both notoriaously inaccurate when it comes to things
like this, and the FSM is by far the more reliable source of information.
The FSM will run you about $80, give or take, but the information is well
worth the added cost as compared to Haynes and Chilton.
"Stephen R. Conrad" <sconrad@telecommunity.to> wrote in message
news:2s8d68F1htqasU1@uni-berlin.de...
> On my 86 Commanche 2wd longbed the rear brakes are configured just the
> opposite from any picture or description I've seen in the manuals (Clymer,
> Chilton, Haynes, ebay CD's, part's store computers). What I mean is the
> pictures all show the parking brake cable entering the backing plate from
> the front of the car. On mine, the cables curve around and come in from
> the rear. That places the parking brake lever found inside the drum on the
> leading brake shoe instead of the trailing shoe like is shown in the
> pictures. This also affects how other hardware inside the drum is
> arranged. Like the self adjuster mechanism (screw, lever, cable and
> spring) and the strut that goes between the shoe and the parking brake
> lever. Do I reverse all these other parts by using the left hardware kit
> on the right brake and vice versa? Several of these parts were left out by
> a previous owner who probably had the same questions.
>
#26
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Re: Rear brakes are backwards?
On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:15:06 UTC "Stephen R. Conrad"
<sconrad@telecommunity.to> wrote:
> On my 86 Commanche 2wd longbed the rear brakes are configured just the
> opposite from any picture or description I've seen in the manuals (Clymer,
> Chilton, Haynes, ebay CD's, part's store computers). What I mean is the
> pictures all show the parking brake cable entering the backing plate from
> the front of the car. On mine, the cables curve around and come in from the
> rear. That places the parking brake lever found inside the drum on the
> leading brake shoe instead of the trailing shoe like is shown in the
> pictures. This also affects how other hardware inside the drum is arranged.
> Like the self adjuster mechanism (screw, lever, cable and spring) and the
> strut that goes between the shoe and the parking brake lever. Do I reverse
> all these other parts by using the left hardware kit on the right brake and
> vice versa? Several of these parts were left out by a previous owner who
> probably had the same questions.
I've got the FSM for the MJ covering your year (published July 85 with
updates thru 1988) and it is perfectly clear: the parking brake lever
is mounted on the REAR shoe. The maual doesn't have a clear picture
of the cable entry, but on my 88 (also long bed, but 4wd) the cable
entry holes face the front and I've never seen one face the rear on
anything. I've got to go with Bill here: someone put the brakes
together bass-ackwards. I can scan and send you a copy of the
diagrams if you need them.
Good luck on the cable, BTW. I broke one and wound up doing some
creative fabbing with a Chevy cable and a swaging tool
--
Will Honea
<sconrad@telecommunity.to> wrote:
> On my 86 Commanche 2wd longbed the rear brakes are configured just the
> opposite from any picture or description I've seen in the manuals (Clymer,
> Chilton, Haynes, ebay CD's, part's store computers). What I mean is the
> pictures all show the parking brake cable entering the backing plate from
> the front of the car. On mine, the cables curve around and come in from the
> rear. That places the parking brake lever found inside the drum on the
> leading brake shoe instead of the trailing shoe like is shown in the
> pictures. This also affects how other hardware inside the drum is arranged.
> Like the self adjuster mechanism (screw, lever, cable and spring) and the
> strut that goes between the shoe and the parking brake lever. Do I reverse
> all these other parts by using the left hardware kit on the right brake and
> vice versa? Several of these parts were left out by a previous owner who
> probably had the same questions.
I've got the FSM for the MJ covering your year (published July 85 with
updates thru 1988) and it is perfectly clear: the parking brake lever
is mounted on the REAR shoe. The maual doesn't have a clear picture
of the cable entry, but on my 88 (also long bed, but 4wd) the cable
entry holes face the front and I've never seen one face the rear on
anything. I've got to go with Bill here: someone put the brakes
together bass-ackwards. I can scan and send you a copy of the
diagrams if you need them.
Good luck on the cable, BTW. I broke one and wound up doing some
creative fabbing with a Chevy cable and a swaging tool
--
Will Honea
#27
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Re: Rear brakes are backwards?
On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:15:06 UTC "Stephen R. Conrad"
<sconrad@telecommunity.to> wrote:
> On my 86 Commanche 2wd longbed the rear brakes are configured just the
> opposite from any picture or description I've seen in the manuals (Clymer,
> Chilton, Haynes, ebay CD's, part's store computers). What I mean is the
> pictures all show the parking brake cable entering the backing plate from
> the front of the car. On mine, the cables curve around and come in from the
> rear. That places the parking brake lever found inside the drum on the
> leading brake shoe instead of the trailing shoe like is shown in the
> pictures. This also affects how other hardware inside the drum is arranged.
> Like the self adjuster mechanism (screw, lever, cable and spring) and the
> strut that goes between the shoe and the parking brake lever. Do I reverse
> all these other parts by using the left hardware kit on the right brake and
> vice versa? Several of these parts were left out by a previous owner who
> probably had the same questions.
I've got the FSM for the MJ covering your year (published July 85 with
updates thru 1988) and it is perfectly clear: the parking brake lever
is mounted on the REAR shoe. The maual doesn't have a clear picture
of the cable entry, but on my 88 (also long bed, but 4wd) the cable
entry holes face the front and I've never seen one face the rear on
anything. I've got to go with Bill here: someone put the brakes
together bass-ackwards. I can scan and send you a copy of the
diagrams if you need them.
Good luck on the cable, BTW. I broke one and wound up doing some
creative fabbing with a Chevy cable and a swaging tool
--
Will Honea
<sconrad@telecommunity.to> wrote:
> On my 86 Commanche 2wd longbed the rear brakes are configured just the
> opposite from any picture or description I've seen in the manuals (Clymer,
> Chilton, Haynes, ebay CD's, part's store computers). What I mean is the
> pictures all show the parking brake cable entering the backing plate from
> the front of the car. On mine, the cables curve around and come in from the
> rear. That places the parking brake lever found inside the drum on the
> leading brake shoe instead of the trailing shoe like is shown in the
> pictures. This also affects how other hardware inside the drum is arranged.
> Like the self adjuster mechanism (screw, lever, cable and spring) and the
> strut that goes between the shoe and the parking brake lever. Do I reverse
> all these other parts by using the left hardware kit on the right brake and
> vice versa? Several of these parts were left out by a previous owner who
> probably had the same questions.
I've got the FSM for the MJ covering your year (published July 85 with
updates thru 1988) and it is perfectly clear: the parking brake lever
is mounted on the REAR shoe. The maual doesn't have a clear picture
of the cable entry, but on my 88 (also long bed, but 4wd) the cable
entry holes face the front and I've never seen one face the rear on
anything. I've got to go with Bill here: someone put the brakes
together bass-ackwards. I can scan and send you a copy of the
diagrams if you need them.
Good luck on the cable, BTW. I broke one and wound up doing some
creative fabbing with a Chevy cable and a swaging tool
--
Will Honea
#28
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Re: Rear brakes are backwards?
On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:15:06 UTC "Stephen R. Conrad"
<sconrad@telecommunity.to> wrote:
> On my 86 Commanche 2wd longbed the rear brakes are configured just the
> opposite from any picture or description I've seen in the manuals (Clymer,
> Chilton, Haynes, ebay CD's, part's store computers). What I mean is the
> pictures all show the parking brake cable entering the backing plate from
> the front of the car. On mine, the cables curve around and come in from the
> rear. That places the parking brake lever found inside the drum on the
> leading brake shoe instead of the trailing shoe like is shown in the
> pictures. This also affects how other hardware inside the drum is arranged.
> Like the self adjuster mechanism (screw, lever, cable and spring) and the
> strut that goes between the shoe and the parking brake lever. Do I reverse
> all these other parts by using the left hardware kit on the right brake and
> vice versa? Several of these parts were left out by a previous owner who
> probably had the same questions.
I've got the FSM for the MJ covering your year (published July 85 with
updates thru 1988) and it is perfectly clear: the parking brake lever
is mounted on the REAR shoe. The maual doesn't have a clear picture
of the cable entry, but on my 88 (also long bed, but 4wd) the cable
entry holes face the front and I've never seen one face the rear on
anything. I've got to go with Bill here: someone put the brakes
together bass-ackwards. I can scan and send you a copy of the
diagrams if you need them.
Good luck on the cable, BTW. I broke one and wound up doing some
creative fabbing with a Chevy cable and a swaging tool
--
Will Honea
<sconrad@telecommunity.to> wrote:
> On my 86 Commanche 2wd longbed the rear brakes are configured just the
> opposite from any picture or description I've seen in the manuals (Clymer,
> Chilton, Haynes, ebay CD's, part's store computers). What I mean is the
> pictures all show the parking brake cable entering the backing plate from
> the front of the car. On mine, the cables curve around and come in from the
> rear. That places the parking brake lever found inside the drum on the
> leading brake shoe instead of the trailing shoe like is shown in the
> pictures. This also affects how other hardware inside the drum is arranged.
> Like the self adjuster mechanism (screw, lever, cable and spring) and the
> strut that goes between the shoe and the parking brake lever. Do I reverse
> all these other parts by using the left hardware kit on the right brake and
> vice versa? Several of these parts were left out by a previous owner who
> probably had the same questions.
I've got the FSM for the MJ covering your year (published July 85 with
updates thru 1988) and it is perfectly clear: the parking brake lever
is mounted on the REAR shoe. The maual doesn't have a clear picture
of the cable entry, but on my 88 (also long bed, but 4wd) the cable
entry holes face the front and I've never seen one face the rear on
anything. I've got to go with Bill here: someone put the brakes
together bass-ackwards. I can scan and send you a copy of the
diagrams if you need them.
Good luck on the cable, BTW. I broke one and wound up doing some
creative fabbing with a Chevy cable and a swaging tool
--
Will Honea
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Re: Rear brakes are backwards?
A scan or picture would be much appreciated. Please note the correct email
address is sconradpt@yahoo.com.
"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:15:06 UTC "Stephen R. Conrad"
> <sconrad@telecommunity.to> wrote:
>
>> On my 86 Commanche 2wd longbed the rear brakes are configured just the
>> opposite from any picture or description I've seen in the manuals
>> (Clymer,
>> Chilton, Haynes, ebay CD's, part's store computers). What I mean is the
>> pictures all show the parking brake cable entering the backing plate from
>> the front of the car. On mine, the cables curve around and come in from
>> the
>> rear. That places the parking brake lever found inside the drum on the
>> leading brake shoe instead of the trailing shoe like is shown in the
>> pictures. This also affects how other hardware inside the drum is
>> arranged.
>> Like the self adjuster mechanism (screw, lever, cable and spring) and the
>> strut that goes between the shoe and the parking brake lever. Do I
>> reverse
>> all these other parts by using the left hardware kit on the right brake
>> and
>> vice versa? Several of these parts were left out by a previous owner who
>> probably had the same questions.
>
> I've got the FSM for the MJ covering your year (published July 85 with
> updates thru 1988) and it is perfectly clear: the parking brake lever
> is mounted on the REAR shoe. The maual doesn't have a clear picture
> of the cable entry, but on my 88 (also long bed, but 4wd) the cable
> entry holes face the front and I've never seen one face the rear on
> anything. I've got to go with Bill here: someone put the brakes
> together bass-ackwards. I can scan and send you a copy of the
> diagrams if you need them.
>
> Good luck on the cable, BTW. I broke one and wound up doing some
> creative fabbing with a Chevy cable and a swaging tool
>
> --
> Will Honea
address is sconradpt@yahoo.com.
"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:15:06 UTC "Stephen R. Conrad"
> <sconrad@telecommunity.to> wrote:
>
>> On my 86 Commanche 2wd longbed the rear brakes are configured just the
>> opposite from any picture or description I've seen in the manuals
>> (Clymer,
>> Chilton, Haynes, ebay CD's, part's store computers). What I mean is the
>> pictures all show the parking brake cable entering the backing plate from
>> the front of the car. On mine, the cables curve around and come in from
>> the
>> rear. That places the parking brake lever found inside the drum on the
>> leading brake shoe instead of the trailing shoe like is shown in the
>> pictures. This also affects how other hardware inside the drum is
>> arranged.
>> Like the self adjuster mechanism (screw, lever, cable and spring) and the
>> strut that goes between the shoe and the parking brake lever. Do I
>> reverse
>> all these other parts by using the left hardware kit on the right brake
>> and
>> vice versa? Several of these parts were left out by a previous owner who
>> probably had the same questions.
>
> I've got the FSM for the MJ covering your year (published July 85 with
> updates thru 1988) and it is perfectly clear: the parking brake lever
> is mounted on the REAR shoe. The maual doesn't have a clear picture
> of the cable entry, but on my 88 (also long bed, but 4wd) the cable
> entry holes face the front and I've never seen one face the rear on
> anything. I've got to go with Bill here: someone put the brakes
> together bass-ackwards. I can scan and send you a copy of the
> diagrams if you need them.
>
> Good luck on the cable, BTW. I broke one and wound up doing some
> creative fabbing with a Chevy cable and a swaging tool
>
> --
> Will Honea
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Re: Rear brakes are backwards?
A scan or picture would be much appreciated. Please note the correct email
address is sconradpt@yahoo.com.
"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:15:06 UTC "Stephen R. Conrad"
> <sconrad@telecommunity.to> wrote:
>
>> On my 86 Commanche 2wd longbed the rear brakes are configured just the
>> opposite from any picture or description I've seen in the manuals
>> (Clymer,
>> Chilton, Haynes, ebay CD's, part's store computers). What I mean is the
>> pictures all show the parking brake cable entering the backing plate from
>> the front of the car. On mine, the cables curve around and come in from
>> the
>> rear. That places the parking brake lever found inside the drum on the
>> leading brake shoe instead of the trailing shoe like is shown in the
>> pictures. This also affects how other hardware inside the drum is
>> arranged.
>> Like the self adjuster mechanism (screw, lever, cable and spring) and the
>> strut that goes between the shoe and the parking brake lever. Do I
>> reverse
>> all these other parts by using the left hardware kit on the right brake
>> and
>> vice versa? Several of these parts were left out by a previous owner who
>> probably had the same questions.
>
> I've got the FSM for the MJ covering your year (published July 85 with
> updates thru 1988) and it is perfectly clear: the parking brake lever
> is mounted on the REAR shoe. The maual doesn't have a clear picture
> of the cable entry, but on my 88 (also long bed, but 4wd) the cable
> entry holes face the front and I've never seen one face the rear on
> anything. I've got to go with Bill here: someone put the brakes
> together bass-ackwards. I can scan and send you a copy of the
> diagrams if you need them.
>
> Good luck on the cable, BTW. I broke one and wound up doing some
> creative fabbing with a Chevy cable and a swaging tool
>
> --
> Will Honea
address is sconradpt@yahoo.com.
"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-o7P6Sd6eYV6V@anon.none.net...
> On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:15:06 UTC "Stephen R. Conrad"
> <sconrad@telecommunity.to> wrote:
>
>> On my 86 Commanche 2wd longbed the rear brakes are configured just the
>> opposite from any picture or description I've seen in the manuals
>> (Clymer,
>> Chilton, Haynes, ebay CD's, part's store computers). What I mean is the
>> pictures all show the parking brake cable entering the backing plate from
>> the front of the car. On mine, the cables curve around and come in from
>> the
>> rear. That places the parking brake lever found inside the drum on the
>> leading brake shoe instead of the trailing shoe like is shown in the
>> pictures. This also affects how other hardware inside the drum is
>> arranged.
>> Like the self adjuster mechanism (screw, lever, cable and spring) and the
>> strut that goes between the shoe and the parking brake lever. Do I
>> reverse
>> all these other parts by using the left hardware kit on the right brake
>> and
>> vice versa? Several of these parts were left out by a previous owner who
>> probably had the same questions.
>
> I've got the FSM for the MJ covering your year (published July 85 with
> updates thru 1988) and it is perfectly clear: the parking brake lever
> is mounted on the REAR shoe. The maual doesn't have a clear picture
> of the cable entry, but on my 88 (also long bed, but 4wd) the cable
> entry holes face the front and I've never seen one face the rear on
> anything. I've got to go with Bill here: someone put the brakes
> together bass-ackwards. I can scan and send you a copy of the
> diagrams if you need them.
>
> Good luck on the cable, BTW. I broke one and wound up doing some
> creative fabbing with a Chevy cable and a swaging tool
>
> --
> Will Honea