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Dave Milne 04-02-2004 11:06 AM

Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
 
eewww !

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:Aagbc.4340$O%5.3366@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> Kinda makes prison look like a Club Med vacation.
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>
> > I remember that pic making the headlines - 1992 if I recall. Cut a 6"

gash
> > up to 2" deep.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
> > news:gxebc.8368$Np3.281247@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> >
> >>On second thought, 'Longhorn' might not be such a good name. DC tends to
> >>make the poor Jeep enthusiast feel like this:
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/3h9oc
> >>
> >>Steve
> >>
> >>twaldron wrote:
> >>
> >>>Yeeeehawwwwww!
> >>>
> >>>Steve wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>They should have called it the Wrangler Longhorn. That would have kept
> >>>>all you cowboys happy.

> >
> >
> >

>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>




Dave Milne 04-02-2004 11:06 AM

Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
 
eewww !

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:Aagbc.4340$O%5.3366@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> Kinda makes prison look like a Club Med vacation.
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>
> > I remember that pic making the headlines - 1992 if I recall. Cut a 6"

gash
> > up to 2" deep.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
> > news:gxebc.8368$Np3.281247@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> >
> >>On second thought, 'Longhorn' might not be such a good name. DC tends to
> >>make the poor Jeep enthusiast feel like this:
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/3h9oc
> >>
> >>Steve
> >>
> >>twaldron wrote:
> >>
> >>>Yeeeehawwwwww!
> >>>
> >>>Steve wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>They should have called it the Wrangler Longhorn. That would have kept
> >>>>all you cowboys happy.

> >
> >
> >

>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>




Dave Milne 04-02-2004 11:06 AM

Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
 
eewww !

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:Aagbc.4340$O%5.3366@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> Kinda makes prison look like a Club Med vacation.
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>
> > I remember that pic making the headlines - 1992 if I recall. Cut a 6"

gash
> > up to 2" deep.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
> > news:gxebc.8368$Np3.281247@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> >
> >>On second thought, 'Longhorn' might not be such a good name. DC tends to
> >>make the poor Jeep enthusiast feel like this:
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/3h9oc
> >>
> >>Steve
> >>
> >>twaldron wrote:
> >>
> >>>Yeeeehawwwwww!
> >>>
> >>>Steve wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>They should have called it the Wrangler Longhorn. That would have kept
> >>>>all you cowboys happy.

> >
> >
> >

>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>




CRWLR 04-02-2004 11:28 AM

Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
 

"Nathan W. Collier" <Spam@Blocker.com> wrote in message
news:FZ4bc.3901$w84.624946@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:106p93j56tanh94@corp.supernews.com...
> > I follow that, and even agree to a certain extent. But a Scrambler was
> > nothing more than a stretched CJ7, so recycling the name wouldn't pose a
> > problem for me.

>
> would you object to calling a tj a cj?
>


Well, no. But that would defeat the purpose of having model designations. It
would be like calling a Crown Victoria of today a Model A. It wouldn't
bother me, but it could confuse things in the future.


> > It would have been a better name than Unlimited, in my
> > humble opinion.

>
> heh....now _that_ i agree with. i dunno what they were thinking with
> "unlimited". the "Jeep Freedom" would have been a much better name.
>

Land Rover is using Freedom already.



CRWLR 04-02-2004 11:28 AM

Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
 

"Nathan W. Collier" <Spam@Blocker.com> wrote in message
news:FZ4bc.3901$w84.624946@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:106p93j56tanh94@corp.supernews.com...
> > I follow that, and even agree to a certain extent. But a Scrambler was
> > nothing more than a stretched CJ7, so recycling the name wouldn't pose a
> > problem for me.

>
> would you object to calling a tj a cj?
>


Well, no. But that would defeat the purpose of having model designations. It
would be like calling a Crown Victoria of today a Model A. It wouldn't
bother me, but it could confuse things in the future.


> > It would have been a better name than Unlimited, in my
> > humble opinion.

>
> heh....now _that_ i agree with. i dunno what they were thinking with
> "unlimited". the "Jeep Freedom" would have been a much better name.
>

Land Rover is using Freedom already.



CRWLR 04-02-2004 11:28 AM

Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
 

"Nathan W. Collier" <Spam@Blocker.com> wrote in message
news:FZ4bc.3901$w84.624946@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:106p93j56tanh94@corp.supernews.com...
> > I follow that, and even agree to a certain extent. But a Scrambler was
> > nothing more than a stretched CJ7, so recycling the name wouldn't pose a
> > problem for me.

>
> would you object to calling a tj a cj?
>


Well, no. But that would defeat the purpose of having model designations. It
would be like calling a Crown Victoria of today a Model A. It wouldn't
bother me, but it could confuse things in the future.


> > It would have been a better name than Unlimited, in my
> > humble opinion.

>
> heh....now _that_ i agree with. i dunno what they were thinking with
> "unlimited". the "Jeep Freedom" would have been a much better name.
>

Land Rover is using Freedom already.



CRWLR 04-02-2004 11:28 AM

Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
 

"Nathan W. Collier" <Spam@Blocker.com> wrote in message
news:FZ4bc.3901$w84.624946@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:106p93j56tanh94@corp.supernews.com...
> > I follow that, and even agree to a certain extent. But a Scrambler was
> > nothing more than a stretched CJ7, so recycling the name wouldn't pose a
> > problem for me.

>
> would you object to calling a tj a cj?
>


Well, no. But that would defeat the purpose of having model designations. It
would be like calling a Crown Victoria of today a Model A. It wouldn't
bother me, but it could confuse things in the future.


> > It would have been a better name than Unlimited, in my
> > humble opinion.

>
> heh....now _that_ i agree with. i dunno what they were thinking with
> "unlimited". the "Jeep Freedom" would have been a much better name.
>

Land Rover is using Freedom already.



twaldron 04-02-2004 11:45 AM

Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
 
No offense, Dave. I'm not American Indian, although I find what
extremely little I know of them fascinating. Actually, I think using
tribal names for certain things should be fine, even in this day of
political correct behavior.

On a related note:

Here in the states the YMCA has a program that used to be called Indian
Guides and Indian Princesses. During the 3 year period that my daughter
and I were in the Indian Princesses, the YMCA, under pressure was forced
to drop the name and they are now called Y Princesses. Idiotic, really.
I mean why would you want your race associated with a wholesome program
like that?

Dave Milne wrote:

> Hmm, that post wasn't well considered really. Sorry if it caused offence.
> I do think that calling cars after tribes is rather silly. I mean, would you
> buy
> a TJ Scot ?
>
> Dave
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:LCdbc.4289$O%5.2488@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
>
>>Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What heritage ? The scrambler was just a longer pickup bed CJ. So what's
>>>wrong with
>>>TJ Scramblers, XJ Scramblers (except they called it the Comanche) ?
>>>
>>>Frankly, its a lot better name than the "Cherokee", named after a people
>>>that genocide was attempted on.. probably why DC kept it...

>>
>>I think most people remember the Cherokee people for much more than
>>that. Besides, it wasn't their fault. Maybe Jeep should pay them for
>>using the name all these years.

>
>
>


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 04-02-2004 11:45 AM

Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
 
No offense, Dave. I'm not American Indian, although I find what
extremely little I know of them fascinating. Actually, I think using
tribal names for certain things should be fine, even in this day of
political correct behavior.

On a related note:

Here in the states the YMCA has a program that used to be called Indian
Guides and Indian Princesses. During the 3 year period that my daughter
and I were in the Indian Princesses, the YMCA, under pressure was forced
to drop the name and they are now called Y Princesses. Idiotic, really.
I mean why would you want your race associated with a wholesome program
like that?

Dave Milne wrote:

> Hmm, that post wasn't well considered really. Sorry if it caused offence.
> I do think that calling cars after tribes is rather silly. I mean, would you
> buy
> a TJ Scot ?
>
> Dave
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:LCdbc.4289$O%5.2488@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
>
>>Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What heritage ? The scrambler was just a longer pickup bed CJ. So what's
>>>wrong with
>>>TJ Scramblers, XJ Scramblers (except they called it the Comanche) ?
>>>
>>>Frankly, its a lot better name than the "Cherokee", named after a people
>>>that genocide was attempted on.. probably why DC kept it...

>>
>>I think most people remember the Cherokee people for much more than
>>that. Besides, it wasn't their fault. Maybe Jeep should pay them for
>>using the name all these years.

>
>
>


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 04-02-2004 11:45 AM

Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
 
No offense, Dave. I'm not American Indian, although I find what
extremely little I know of them fascinating. Actually, I think using
tribal names for certain things should be fine, even in this day of
political correct behavior.

On a related note:

Here in the states the YMCA has a program that used to be called Indian
Guides and Indian Princesses. During the 3 year period that my daughter
and I were in the Indian Princesses, the YMCA, under pressure was forced
to drop the name and they are now called Y Princesses. Idiotic, really.
I mean why would you want your race associated with a wholesome program
like that?

Dave Milne wrote:

> Hmm, that post wasn't well considered really. Sorry if it caused offence.
> I do think that calling cars after tribes is rather silly. I mean, would you
> buy
> a TJ Scot ?
>
> Dave
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:LCdbc.4289$O%5.2488@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
>
>>Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What heritage ? The scrambler was just a longer pickup bed CJ. So what's
>>>wrong with
>>>TJ Scramblers, XJ Scramblers (except they called it the Comanche) ?
>>>
>>>Frankly, its a lot better name than the "Cherokee", named after a people
>>>that genocide was attempted on.. probably why DC kept it...

>>
>>I think most people remember the Cherokee people for much more than
>>that. Besides, it wasn't their fault. Maybe Jeep should pay them for
>>using the name all these years.

>
>
>


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________



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