Re: Tire Rotation
08-27-2005, 03:04 AM
#61
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Re: Tire Rotation
All Real Jeeps use offset wider rims, that should never be
reversed: http://www.fostertire.com/tcm_rttn.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
bllsht wrote:
>
> I went to 3 sites and they all recommended crossing them.
reversed: http://www.fostertire.com/tcm_rttn.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
bllsht wrote:
>
> I went to 3 sites and they all recommended crossing them.
08-29-2005, 02:07 PM
#62
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Re: Tire Rotation
I'm not suggesting that cross rotating the tires is a bad idea, I'm
suggesting it is unnecessary. If you WANT to cross rotate, then fine, put
yourself through the extra work. But if you don't know if you need to cross
rotate, the answer is a resounding NO, you do not need to cross rotate. You
can safely swap the front and rear tires and keep them on the same side.
As an aside,
Most cars these days have that donut-spare that is not meant to be included
in the tire rotation scheme, so pulling the tire from the trunk every few
months and getting it some road time isn't necessary or even desirable.
"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
news:430f8f11_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>I have rotated my radial tires in the following 5-tire rotation pattern for
> about 15 years, with absolutely NO problems:
>
> spare to RR
> RR to RF
> RF to LR
> LR to LF
> LF to spare
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:fcJPe.5162$ct5.1103@fed1read04...
>> The first two brands I checked, BFG and Michelin, still recommends
>> cross-rotating their tires. They even give a cool little animation of
>> how to rotate tires at http://www.michelinman.com/care/tip2.html with
>> BFG having a similar animation.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> J Strickland wrote:
>> > Most of them do not recommend that anymore. And none of them suggest
> that
>> > not crossing them is a bad thing.
>> >
>> > There is nothing wrong with crossing them unless there is a specific
> reason
>> > not to, ie.: directional tires. But when there is any doubt, there is
>> > nothing wrong with keeping the left tires on the left side and the
>> > right
>> > tires on the right side. Many automakers these days suggest that
> rotating
>> > tires is not necessary at all. If one has to ask, what is the correct
> way to
>> > rotate tires, this person can be told to keep them on the same side and
>> > he'll get through his life just fine.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
>> > news:vubtg1thi5ma6cbqlpq0n5l220kfipv041@4ax.com...
>> >
>> >>Tire manufacturers recommend crossing them.
>> >>
>> >>In message <G_CdnXNmV8M0bZDeRVn-2g@ez2.net>, "J Strickland" wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Do not cross the tires. Keep the left tires on the left side and the
> right
>> >>>tires on the right side.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> >>>news:68c0$430d3086$42a1cc8c$30871@FUSE.NET...
>> >>>
>> >>>>To clarify my original question I would be doing a 4 wheel rotation.
>> >>>>The
>> >>>>spare is a Wrangler ST and I would rather not have mismatched quality
>> >>>>tires.
>> >>>>http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>--
>> >>>>.
>> >>>>Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> >>>>2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> >>>>Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> >>>>Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> >>>>.
>> >>>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> >>>>news:430D0BE5.FA42DC43@***.net...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> That's a new one for me: http://www.fostertire.com/tcm_rttn.htm
>> >>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Nathan Otis wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>I've always just rotated clockwise. I've been rotating my MTRs
>> >>>>>>clockwise
>> >>>>>>since the day I got 'em and I've got over 35K on 'em... No sign of
>> >>>>>>seperation.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>YMMV (HAHA!!! That's a joke)
>> >>>>>>n.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
suggesting it is unnecessary. If you WANT to cross rotate, then fine, put
yourself through the extra work. But if you don't know if you need to cross
rotate, the answer is a resounding NO, you do not need to cross rotate. You
can safely swap the front and rear tires and keep them on the same side.
As an aside,
Most cars these days have that donut-spare that is not meant to be included
in the tire rotation scheme, so pulling the tire from the trunk every few
months and getting it some road time isn't necessary or even desirable.
"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
news:430f8f11_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>I have rotated my radial tires in the following 5-tire rotation pattern for
> about 15 years, with absolutely NO problems:
>
> spare to RR
> RR to RF
> RF to LR
> LR to LF
> LF to spare
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:fcJPe.5162$ct5.1103@fed1read04...
>> The first two brands I checked, BFG and Michelin, still recommends
>> cross-rotating their tires. They even give a cool little animation of
>> how to rotate tires at http://www.michelinman.com/care/tip2.html with
>> BFG having a similar animation.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> J Strickland wrote:
>> > Most of them do not recommend that anymore. And none of them suggest
> that
>> > not crossing them is a bad thing.
>> >
>> > There is nothing wrong with crossing them unless there is a specific
> reason
>> > not to, ie.: directional tires. But when there is any doubt, there is
>> > nothing wrong with keeping the left tires on the left side and the
>> > right
>> > tires on the right side. Many automakers these days suggest that
> rotating
>> > tires is not necessary at all. If one has to ask, what is the correct
> way to
>> > rotate tires, this person can be told to keep them on the same side and
>> > he'll get through his life just fine.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
>> > news:vubtg1thi5ma6cbqlpq0n5l220kfipv041@4ax.com...
>> >
>> >>Tire manufacturers recommend crossing them.
>> >>
>> >>In message <G_CdnXNmV8M0bZDeRVn-2g@ez2.net>, "J Strickland" wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Do not cross the tires. Keep the left tires on the left side and the
> right
>> >>>tires on the right side.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> >>>news:68c0$430d3086$42a1cc8c$30871@FUSE.NET...
>> >>>
>> >>>>To clarify my original question I would be doing a 4 wheel rotation.
>> >>>>The
>> >>>>spare is a Wrangler ST and I would rather not have mismatched quality
>> >>>>tires.
>> >>>>http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>--
>> >>>>.
>> >>>>Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> >>>>2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> >>>>Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> >>>>Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> >>>>.
>> >>>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> >>>>news:430D0BE5.FA42DC43@***.net...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> That's a new one for me: http://www.fostertire.com/tcm_rttn.htm
>> >>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Nathan Otis wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>I've always just rotated clockwise. I've been rotating my MTRs
>> >>>>>>clockwise
>> >>>>>>since the day I got 'em and I've got over 35K on 'em... No sign of
>> >>>>>>seperation.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>YMMV (HAHA!!! That's a joke)
>> >>>>>>n.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
08-29-2005, 02:07 PM
#63
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Posts: n/a
Re: Tire Rotation
I'm not suggesting that cross rotating the tires is a bad idea, I'm
suggesting it is unnecessary. If you WANT to cross rotate, then fine, put
yourself through the extra work. But if you don't know if you need to cross
rotate, the answer is a resounding NO, you do not need to cross rotate. You
can safely swap the front and rear tires and keep them on the same side.
As an aside,
Most cars these days have that donut-spare that is not meant to be included
in the tire rotation scheme, so pulling the tire from the trunk every few
months and getting it some road time isn't necessary or even desirable.
"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
news:430f8f11_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>I have rotated my radial tires in the following 5-tire rotation pattern for
> about 15 years, with absolutely NO problems:
>
> spare to RR
> RR to RF
> RF to LR
> LR to LF
> LF to spare
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:fcJPe.5162$ct5.1103@fed1read04...
>> The first two brands I checked, BFG and Michelin, still recommends
>> cross-rotating their tires. They even give a cool little animation of
>> how to rotate tires at http://www.michelinman.com/care/tip2.html with
>> BFG having a similar animation.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> J Strickland wrote:
>> > Most of them do not recommend that anymore. And none of them suggest
> that
>> > not crossing them is a bad thing.
>> >
>> > There is nothing wrong with crossing them unless there is a specific
> reason
>> > not to, ie.: directional tires. But when there is any doubt, there is
>> > nothing wrong with keeping the left tires on the left side and the
>> > right
>> > tires on the right side. Many automakers these days suggest that
> rotating
>> > tires is not necessary at all. If one has to ask, what is the correct
> way to
>> > rotate tires, this person can be told to keep them on the same side and
>> > he'll get through his life just fine.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
>> > news:vubtg1thi5ma6cbqlpq0n5l220kfipv041@4ax.com...
>> >
>> >>Tire manufacturers recommend crossing them.
>> >>
>> >>In message <G_CdnXNmV8M0bZDeRVn-2g@ez2.net>, "J Strickland" wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Do not cross the tires. Keep the left tires on the left side and the
> right
>> >>>tires on the right side.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> >>>news:68c0$430d3086$42a1cc8c$30871@FUSE.NET...
>> >>>
>> >>>>To clarify my original question I would be doing a 4 wheel rotation.
>> >>>>The
>> >>>>spare is a Wrangler ST and I would rather not have mismatched quality
>> >>>>tires.
>> >>>>http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>--
>> >>>>.
>> >>>>Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> >>>>2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> >>>>Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> >>>>Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> >>>>.
>> >>>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> >>>>news:430D0BE5.FA42DC43@***.net...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> That's a new one for me: http://www.fostertire.com/tcm_rttn.htm
>> >>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Nathan Otis wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>I've always just rotated clockwise. I've been rotating my MTRs
>> >>>>>>clockwise
>> >>>>>>since the day I got 'em and I've got over 35K on 'em... No sign of
>> >>>>>>seperation.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>YMMV (HAHA!!! That's a joke)
>> >>>>>>n.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
suggesting it is unnecessary. If you WANT to cross rotate, then fine, put
yourself through the extra work. But if you don't know if you need to cross
rotate, the answer is a resounding NO, you do not need to cross rotate. You
can safely swap the front and rear tires and keep them on the same side.
As an aside,
Most cars these days have that donut-spare that is not meant to be included
in the tire rotation scheme, so pulling the tire from the trunk every few
months and getting it some road time isn't necessary or even desirable.
"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
news:430f8f11_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>I have rotated my radial tires in the following 5-tire rotation pattern for
> about 15 years, with absolutely NO problems:
>
> spare to RR
> RR to RF
> RF to LR
> LR to LF
> LF to spare
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:fcJPe.5162$ct5.1103@fed1read04...
>> The first two brands I checked, BFG and Michelin, still recommends
>> cross-rotating their tires. They even give a cool little animation of
>> how to rotate tires at http://www.michelinman.com/care/tip2.html with
>> BFG having a similar animation.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> J Strickland wrote:
>> > Most of them do not recommend that anymore. And none of them suggest
> that
>> > not crossing them is a bad thing.
>> >
>> > There is nothing wrong with crossing them unless there is a specific
> reason
>> > not to, ie.: directional tires. But when there is any doubt, there is
>> > nothing wrong with keeping the left tires on the left side and the
>> > right
>> > tires on the right side. Many automakers these days suggest that
> rotating
>> > tires is not necessary at all. If one has to ask, what is the correct
> way to
>> > rotate tires, this person can be told to keep them on the same side and
>> > he'll get through his life just fine.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
>> > news:vubtg1thi5ma6cbqlpq0n5l220kfipv041@4ax.com...
>> >
>> >>Tire manufacturers recommend crossing them.
>> >>
>> >>In message <G_CdnXNmV8M0bZDeRVn-2g@ez2.net>, "J Strickland" wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Do not cross the tires. Keep the left tires on the left side and the
> right
>> >>>tires on the right side.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> >>>news:68c0$430d3086$42a1cc8c$30871@FUSE.NET...
>> >>>
>> >>>>To clarify my original question I would be doing a 4 wheel rotation.
>> >>>>The
>> >>>>spare is a Wrangler ST and I would rather not have mismatched quality
>> >>>>tires.
>> >>>>http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>--
>> >>>>.
>> >>>>Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> >>>>2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> >>>>Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> >>>>Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> >>>>.
>> >>>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> >>>>news:430D0BE5.FA42DC43@***.net...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> That's a new one for me: http://www.fostertire.com/tcm_rttn.htm
>> >>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Nathan Otis wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>I've always just rotated clockwise. I've been rotating my MTRs
>> >>>>>>clockwise
>> >>>>>>since the day I got 'em and I've got over 35K on 'em... No sign of
>> >>>>>>seperation.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>YMMV (HAHA!!! That's a joke)
>> >>>>>>n.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
08-29-2005, 02:07 PM
#64
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Tire Rotation
I'm not suggesting that cross rotating the tires is a bad idea, I'm
suggesting it is unnecessary. If you WANT to cross rotate, then fine, put
yourself through the extra work. But if you don't know if you need to cross
rotate, the answer is a resounding NO, you do not need to cross rotate. You
can safely swap the front and rear tires and keep them on the same side.
As an aside,
Most cars these days have that donut-spare that is not meant to be included
in the tire rotation scheme, so pulling the tire from the trunk every few
months and getting it some road time isn't necessary or even desirable.
"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
news:430f8f11_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>I have rotated my radial tires in the following 5-tire rotation pattern for
> about 15 years, with absolutely NO problems:
>
> spare to RR
> RR to RF
> RF to LR
> LR to LF
> LF to spare
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:fcJPe.5162$ct5.1103@fed1read04...
>> The first two brands I checked, BFG and Michelin, still recommends
>> cross-rotating their tires. They even give a cool little animation of
>> how to rotate tires at http://www.michelinman.com/care/tip2.html with
>> BFG having a similar animation.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> J Strickland wrote:
>> > Most of them do not recommend that anymore. And none of them suggest
> that
>> > not crossing them is a bad thing.
>> >
>> > There is nothing wrong with crossing them unless there is a specific
> reason
>> > not to, ie.: directional tires. But when there is any doubt, there is
>> > nothing wrong with keeping the left tires on the left side and the
>> > right
>> > tires on the right side. Many automakers these days suggest that
> rotating
>> > tires is not necessary at all. If one has to ask, what is the correct
> way to
>> > rotate tires, this person can be told to keep them on the same side and
>> > he'll get through his life just fine.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
>> > news:vubtg1thi5ma6cbqlpq0n5l220kfipv041@4ax.com...
>> >
>> >>Tire manufacturers recommend crossing them.
>> >>
>> >>In message <G_CdnXNmV8M0bZDeRVn-2g@ez2.net>, "J Strickland" wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Do not cross the tires. Keep the left tires on the left side and the
> right
>> >>>tires on the right side.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> >>>news:68c0$430d3086$42a1cc8c$30871@FUSE.NET...
>> >>>
>> >>>>To clarify my original question I would be doing a 4 wheel rotation.
>> >>>>The
>> >>>>spare is a Wrangler ST and I would rather not have mismatched quality
>> >>>>tires.
>> >>>>http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>--
>> >>>>.
>> >>>>Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> >>>>2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> >>>>Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> >>>>Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> >>>>.
>> >>>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> >>>>news:430D0BE5.FA42DC43@***.net...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> That's a new one for me: http://www.fostertire.com/tcm_rttn.htm
>> >>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Nathan Otis wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>I've always just rotated clockwise. I've been rotating my MTRs
>> >>>>>>clockwise
>> >>>>>>since the day I got 'em and I've got over 35K on 'em... No sign of
>> >>>>>>seperation.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>YMMV (HAHA!!! That's a joke)
>> >>>>>>n.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
suggesting it is unnecessary. If you WANT to cross rotate, then fine, put
yourself through the extra work. But if you don't know if you need to cross
rotate, the answer is a resounding NO, you do not need to cross rotate. You
can safely swap the front and rear tires and keep them on the same side.
As an aside,
Most cars these days have that donut-spare that is not meant to be included
in the tire rotation scheme, so pulling the tire from the trunk every few
months and getting it some road time isn't necessary or even desirable.
"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
news:430f8f11_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>I have rotated my radial tires in the following 5-tire rotation pattern for
> about 15 years, with absolutely NO problems:
>
> spare to RR
> RR to RF
> RF to LR
> LR to LF
> LF to spare
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:fcJPe.5162$ct5.1103@fed1read04...
>> The first two brands I checked, BFG and Michelin, still recommends
>> cross-rotating their tires. They even give a cool little animation of
>> how to rotate tires at http://www.michelinman.com/care/tip2.html with
>> BFG having a similar animation.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> J Strickland wrote:
>> > Most of them do not recommend that anymore. And none of them suggest
> that
>> > not crossing them is a bad thing.
>> >
>> > There is nothing wrong with crossing them unless there is a specific
> reason
>> > not to, ie.: directional tires. But when there is any doubt, there is
>> > nothing wrong with keeping the left tires on the left side and the
>> > right
>> > tires on the right side. Many automakers these days suggest that
> rotating
>> > tires is not necessary at all. If one has to ask, what is the correct
> way to
>> > rotate tires, this person can be told to keep them on the same side and
>> > he'll get through his life just fine.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
>> > news:vubtg1thi5ma6cbqlpq0n5l220kfipv041@4ax.com...
>> >
>> >>Tire manufacturers recommend crossing them.
>> >>
>> >>In message <G_CdnXNmV8M0bZDeRVn-2g@ez2.net>, "J Strickland" wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Do not cross the tires. Keep the left tires on the left side and the
> right
>> >>>tires on the right side.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> >>>news:68c0$430d3086$42a1cc8c$30871@FUSE.NET...
>> >>>
>> >>>>To clarify my original question I would be doing a 4 wheel rotation.
>> >>>>The
>> >>>>spare is a Wrangler ST and I would rather not have mismatched quality
>> >>>>tires.
>> >>>>http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>--
>> >>>>.
>> >>>>Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> >>>>2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> >>>>Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> >>>>Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> >>>>.
>> >>>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> >>>>news:430D0BE5.FA42DC43@***.net...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> That's a new one for me: http://www.fostertire.com/tcm_rttn.htm
>> >>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Nathan Otis wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>I've always just rotated clockwise. I've been rotating my MTRs
>> >>>>>>clockwise
>> >>>>>>since the day I got 'em and I've got over 35K on 'em... No sign of
>> >>>>>>seperation.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>YMMV (HAHA!!! That's a joke)
>> >>>>>>n.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
08-29-2005, 02:07 PM
#65
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Tire Rotation
I'm not suggesting that cross rotating the tires is a bad idea, I'm
suggesting it is unnecessary. If you WANT to cross rotate, then fine, put
yourself through the extra work. But if you don't know if you need to cross
rotate, the answer is a resounding NO, you do not need to cross rotate. You
can safely swap the front and rear tires and keep them on the same side.
As an aside,
Most cars these days have that donut-spare that is not meant to be included
in the tire rotation scheme, so pulling the tire from the trunk every few
months and getting it some road time isn't necessary or even desirable.
"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
news:430f8f11_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>I have rotated my radial tires in the following 5-tire rotation pattern for
> about 15 years, with absolutely NO problems:
>
> spare to RR
> RR to RF
> RF to LR
> LR to LF
> LF to spare
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:fcJPe.5162$ct5.1103@fed1read04...
>> The first two brands I checked, BFG and Michelin, still recommends
>> cross-rotating their tires. They even give a cool little animation of
>> how to rotate tires at http://www.michelinman.com/care/tip2.html with
>> BFG having a similar animation.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> J Strickland wrote:
>> > Most of them do not recommend that anymore. And none of them suggest
> that
>> > not crossing them is a bad thing.
>> >
>> > There is nothing wrong with crossing them unless there is a specific
> reason
>> > not to, ie.: directional tires. But when there is any doubt, there is
>> > nothing wrong with keeping the left tires on the left side and the
>> > right
>> > tires on the right side. Many automakers these days suggest that
> rotating
>> > tires is not necessary at all. If one has to ask, what is the correct
> way to
>> > rotate tires, this person can be told to keep them on the same side and
>> > he'll get through his life just fine.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
>> > news:vubtg1thi5ma6cbqlpq0n5l220kfipv041@4ax.com...
>> >
>> >>Tire manufacturers recommend crossing them.
>> >>
>> >>In message <G_CdnXNmV8M0bZDeRVn-2g@ez2.net>, "J Strickland" wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Do not cross the tires. Keep the left tires on the left side and the
> right
>> >>>tires on the right side.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> >>>news:68c0$430d3086$42a1cc8c$30871@FUSE.NET...
>> >>>
>> >>>>To clarify my original question I would be doing a 4 wheel rotation.
>> >>>>The
>> >>>>spare is a Wrangler ST and I would rather not have mismatched quality
>> >>>>tires.
>> >>>>http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>--
>> >>>>.
>> >>>>Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> >>>>2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> >>>>Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> >>>>Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> >>>>.
>> >>>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> >>>>news:430D0BE5.FA42DC43@***.net...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> That's a new one for me: http://www.fostertire.com/tcm_rttn.htm
>> >>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Nathan Otis wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>I've always just rotated clockwise. I've been rotating my MTRs
>> >>>>>>clockwise
>> >>>>>>since the day I got 'em and I've got over 35K on 'em... No sign of
>> >>>>>>seperation.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>YMMV (HAHA!!! That's a joke)
>> >>>>>>n.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
suggesting it is unnecessary. If you WANT to cross rotate, then fine, put
yourself through the extra work. But if you don't know if you need to cross
rotate, the answer is a resounding NO, you do not need to cross rotate. You
can safely swap the front and rear tires and keep them on the same side.
As an aside,
Most cars these days have that donut-spare that is not meant to be included
in the tire rotation scheme, so pulling the tire from the trunk every few
months and getting it some road time isn't necessary or even desirable.
"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
news:430f8f11_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>I have rotated my radial tires in the following 5-tire rotation pattern for
> about 15 years, with absolutely NO problems:
>
> spare to RR
> RR to RF
> RF to LR
> LR to LF
> LF to spare
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:fcJPe.5162$ct5.1103@fed1read04...
>> The first two brands I checked, BFG and Michelin, still recommends
>> cross-rotating their tires. They even give a cool little animation of
>> how to rotate tires at http://www.michelinman.com/care/tip2.html with
>> BFG having a similar animation.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> J Strickland wrote:
>> > Most of them do not recommend that anymore. And none of them suggest
> that
>> > not crossing them is a bad thing.
>> >
>> > There is nothing wrong with crossing them unless there is a specific
> reason
>> > not to, ie.: directional tires. But when there is any doubt, there is
>> > nothing wrong with keeping the left tires on the left side and the
>> > right
>> > tires on the right side. Many automakers these days suggest that
> rotating
>> > tires is not necessary at all. If one has to ask, what is the correct
> way to
>> > rotate tires, this person can be told to keep them on the same side and
>> > he'll get through his life just fine.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
>> > news:vubtg1thi5ma6cbqlpq0n5l220kfipv041@4ax.com...
>> >
>> >>Tire manufacturers recommend crossing them.
>> >>
>> >>In message <G_CdnXNmV8M0bZDeRVn-2g@ez2.net>, "J Strickland" wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Do not cross the tires. Keep the left tires on the left side and the
> right
>> >>>tires on the right side.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> >>>news:68c0$430d3086$42a1cc8c$30871@FUSE.NET...
>> >>>
>> >>>>To clarify my original question I would be doing a 4 wheel rotation.
>> >>>>The
>> >>>>spare is a Wrangler ST and I would rather not have mismatched quality
>> >>>>tires.
>> >>>>http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>--
>> >>>>.
>> >>>>Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> >>>>2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> >>>>Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> >>>>Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> >>>>.
>> >>>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> >>>>news:430D0BE5.FA42DC43@***.net...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> That's a new one for me: http://www.fostertire.com/tcm_rttn.htm
>> >>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Nathan Otis wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>I've always just rotated clockwise. I've been rotating my MTRs
>> >>>>>>clockwise
>> >>>>>>since the day I got 'em and I've got over 35K on 'em... No sign of
>> >>>>>>seperation.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>YMMV (HAHA!!! That's a joke)
>> >>>>>>n.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
08-29-2005, 11:34 PM
#66
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Tire Rotation
In message <s5-dnQD-p5Ko047eRVn-oQ@ez2.net>, "J Strickland" wrote:
>I'm not suggesting that cross rotating the tires is a bad idea, I'm
>suggesting it is unnecessary. If you WANT to cross rotate, then fine, put
>yourself through the extra work.
Extra work? A 4 tire rotation involves moving 4 tires, crossing or not.
> But if you don't know if you need to cross
>rotate, the answer is a resounding NO, you do not need to cross rotate. You
>can safely swap the front and rear tires and keep them on the same side.
>
>As an aside,
>Most cars these days have that donut-spare that is not meant to be included
>in the tire rotation scheme, so pulling the tire from the trunk every few
>months and getting it some road time isn't necessary or even desirable.
>
>
>
>
>
>"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
>news:430f8f11_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>I have rotated my radial tires in the following 5-tire rotation pattern for
>> about 15 years, with absolutely NO problems:
>>
>> spare to RR
>> RR to RF
>> RF to LR
>> LR to LF
>> LF to spare
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:fcJPe.5162$ct5.1103@fed1read04...
>>> The first two brands I checked, BFG and Michelin, still recommends
>>> cross-rotating their tires. They even give a cool little animation of
>>> how to rotate tires at http://www.michelinman.com/care/tip2.html with
>>> BFG having a similar animation.
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> J Strickland wrote:
>>> > Most of them do not recommend that anymore. And none of them suggest
>> that
>>> > not crossing them is a bad thing.
>>> >
>>> > There is nothing wrong with crossing them unless there is a specific
>> reason
>>> > not to, ie.: directional tires. But when there is any doubt, there is
>>> > nothing wrong with keeping the left tires on the left side and the
>>> > right
>>> > tires on the right side. Many automakers these days suggest that
>> rotating
>>> > tires is not necessary at all. If one has to ask, what is the correct
>> way to
>>> > rotate tires, this person can be told to keep them on the same side and
>>> > he'll get through his life just fine.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
>>> > news:vubtg1thi5ma6cbqlpq0n5l220kfipv041@4ax.com...
>>> >
>>> >>Tire manufacturers recommend crossing them.
>>> >>
>>> >>In message <G_CdnXNmV8M0bZDeRVn-2g@ez2.net>, "J Strickland" wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>Do not cross the tires. Keep the left tires on the left side and the
>> right
>>> >>>tires on the right side.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>> >>>news:68c0$430d3086$42a1cc8c$30871@FUSE.NET...
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>To clarify my original question I would be doing a 4 wheel rotation.
>>> >>>>The
>>> >>>>spare is a Wrangler ST and I would rather not have mismatched quality
>>> >>>>tires.
>>> >>>>http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>--
>>> >>>>.
>>> >>>>Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>>> >>>>2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>>> >>>>Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>>> >>>>Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>>> >>>>.
>>> >>>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> >>>>news:430D0BE5.FA42DC43@***.net...
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> That's a new one for me: http://www.fostertire.com/tcm_rttn.htm
>>> >>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>> >>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>Nathan Otis wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>I've always just rotated clockwise. I've been rotating my MTRs
>>> >>>>>>clockwise
>>> >>>>>>since the day I got 'em and I've got over 35K on 'em... No sign of
>>> >>>>>>seperation.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>YMMV (HAHA!!! That's a joke)
>>> >>>>>>n.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jerry Bransford
>>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>
>>
>
>I'm not suggesting that cross rotating the tires is a bad idea, I'm
>suggesting it is unnecessary. If you WANT to cross rotate, then fine, put
>yourself through the extra work.
Extra work? A 4 tire rotation involves moving 4 tires, crossing or not.
> But if you don't know if you need to cross
>rotate, the answer is a resounding NO, you do not need to cross rotate. You
>can safely swap the front and rear tires and keep them on the same side.
>
>As an aside,
>Most cars these days have that donut-spare that is not meant to be included
>in the tire rotation scheme, so pulling the tire from the trunk every few
>months and getting it some road time isn't necessary or even desirable.
>
>
>
>
>
>"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
>news:430f8f11_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>I have rotated my radial tires in the following 5-tire rotation pattern for
>> about 15 years, with absolutely NO problems:
>>
>> spare to RR
>> RR to RF
>> RF to LR
>> LR to LF
>> LF to spare
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:fcJPe.5162$ct5.1103@fed1read04...
>>> The first two brands I checked, BFG and Michelin, still recommends
>>> cross-rotating their tires. They even give a cool little animation of
>>> how to rotate tires at http://www.michelinman.com/care/tip2.html with
>>> BFG having a similar animation.
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> J Strickland wrote:
>>> > Most of them do not recommend that anymore. And none of them suggest
>> that
>>> > not crossing them is a bad thing.
>>> >
>>> > There is nothing wrong with crossing them unless there is a specific
>> reason
>>> > not to, ie.: directional tires. But when there is any doubt, there is
>>> > nothing wrong with keeping the left tires on the left side and the
>>> > right
>>> > tires on the right side. Many automakers these days suggest that
>> rotating
>>> > tires is not necessary at all. If one has to ask, what is the correct
>> way to
>>> > rotate tires, this person can be told to keep them on the same side and
>>> > he'll get through his life just fine.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
>>> > news:vubtg1thi5ma6cbqlpq0n5l220kfipv041@4ax.com...
>>> >
>>> >>Tire manufacturers recommend crossing them.
>>> >>
>>> >>In message <G_CdnXNmV8M0bZDeRVn-2g@ez2.net>, "J Strickland" wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>Do not cross the tires. Keep the left tires on the left side and the
>> right
>>> >>>tires on the right side.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>> >>>news:68c0$430d3086$42a1cc8c$30871@FUSE.NET...
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>To clarify my original question I would be doing a 4 wheel rotation.
>>> >>>>The
>>> >>>>spare is a Wrangler ST and I would rather not have mismatched quality
>>> >>>>tires.
>>> >>>>http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>--
>>> >>>>.
>>> >>>>Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>>> >>>>2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>>> >>>>Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>>> >>>>Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>>> >>>>.
>>> >>>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> >>>>news:430D0BE5.FA42DC43@***.net...
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> That's a new one for me: http://www.fostertire.com/tcm_rttn.htm
>>> >>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>> >>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>Nathan Otis wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>I've always just rotated clockwise. I've been rotating my MTRs
>>> >>>>>>clockwise
>>> >>>>>>since the day I got 'em and I've got over 35K on 'em... No sign of
>>> >>>>>>seperation.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>YMMV (HAHA!!! That's a joke)
>>> >>>>>>n.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jerry Bransford
>>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>
>>
>
08-29-2005, 11:34 PM
#67
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Tire Rotation
In message <s5-dnQD-p5Ko047eRVn-oQ@ez2.net>, "J Strickland" wrote:
>I'm not suggesting that cross rotating the tires is a bad idea, I'm
>suggesting it is unnecessary. If you WANT to cross rotate, then fine, put
>yourself through the extra work.
Extra work? A 4 tire rotation involves moving 4 tires, crossing or not.
> But if you don't know if you need to cross
>rotate, the answer is a resounding NO, you do not need to cross rotate. You
>can safely swap the front and rear tires and keep them on the same side.
>
>As an aside,
>Most cars these days have that donut-spare that is not meant to be included
>in the tire rotation scheme, so pulling the tire from the trunk every few
>months and getting it some road time isn't necessary or even desirable.
>
>
>
>
>
>"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
>news:430f8f11_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>I have rotated my radial tires in the following 5-tire rotation pattern for
>> about 15 years, with absolutely NO problems:
>>
>> spare to RR
>> RR to RF
>> RF to LR
>> LR to LF
>> LF to spare
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:fcJPe.5162$ct5.1103@fed1read04...
>>> The first two brands I checked, BFG and Michelin, still recommends
>>> cross-rotating their tires. They even give a cool little animation of
>>> how to rotate tires at http://www.michelinman.com/care/tip2.html with
>>> BFG having a similar animation.
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> J Strickland wrote:
>>> > Most of them do not recommend that anymore. And none of them suggest
>> that
>>> > not crossing them is a bad thing.
>>> >
>>> > There is nothing wrong with crossing them unless there is a specific
>> reason
>>> > not to, ie.: directional tires. But when there is any doubt, there is
>>> > nothing wrong with keeping the left tires on the left side and the
>>> > right
>>> > tires on the right side. Many automakers these days suggest that
>> rotating
>>> > tires is not necessary at all. If one has to ask, what is the correct
>> way to
>>> > rotate tires, this person can be told to keep them on the same side and
>>> > he'll get through his life just fine.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
>>> > news:vubtg1thi5ma6cbqlpq0n5l220kfipv041@4ax.com...
>>> >
>>> >>Tire manufacturers recommend crossing them.
>>> >>
>>> >>In message <G_CdnXNmV8M0bZDeRVn-2g@ez2.net>, "J Strickland" wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>Do not cross the tires. Keep the left tires on the left side and the
>> right
>>> >>>tires on the right side.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>> >>>news:68c0$430d3086$42a1cc8c$30871@FUSE.NET...
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>To clarify my original question I would be doing a 4 wheel rotation.
>>> >>>>The
>>> >>>>spare is a Wrangler ST and I would rather not have mismatched quality
>>> >>>>tires.
>>> >>>>http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>--
>>> >>>>.
>>> >>>>Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>>> >>>>2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>>> >>>>Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>>> >>>>Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>>> >>>>.
>>> >>>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> >>>>news:430D0BE5.FA42DC43@***.net...
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> That's a new one for me: http://www.fostertire.com/tcm_rttn.htm
>>> >>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>> >>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>Nathan Otis wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>I've always just rotated clockwise. I've been rotating my MTRs
>>> >>>>>>clockwise
>>> >>>>>>since the day I got 'em and I've got over 35K on 'em... No sign of
>>> >>>>>>seperation.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>YMMV (HAHA!!! That's a joke)
>>> >>>>>>n.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jerry Bransford
>>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>
>>
>
>I'm not suggesting that cross rotating the tires is a bad idea, I'm
>suggesting it is unnecessary. If you WANT to cross rotate, then fine, put
>yourself through the extra work.
Extra work? A 4 tire rotation involves moving 4 tires, crossing or not.
> But if you don't know if you need to cross
>rotate, the answer is a resounding NO, you do not need to cross rotate. You
>can safely swap the front and rear tires and keep them on the same side.
>
>As an aside,
>Most cars these days have that donut-spare that is not meant to be included
>in the tire rotation scheme, so pulling the tire from the trunk every few
>months and getting it some road time isn't necessary or even desirable.
>
>
>
>
>
>"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
>news:430f8f11_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>I have rotated my radial tires in the following 5-tire rotation pattern for
>> about 15 years, with absolutely NO problems:
>>
>> spare to RR
>> RR to RF
>> RF to LR
>> LR to LF
>> LF to spare
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:fcJPe.5162$ct5.1103@fed1read04...
>>> The first two brands I checked, BFG and Michelin, still recommends
>>> cross-rotating their tires. They even give a cool little animation of
>>> how to rotate tires at http://www.michelinman.com/care/tip2.html with
>>> BFG having a similar animation.
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> J Strickland wrote:
>>> > Most of them do not recommend that anymore. And none of them suggest
>> that
>>> > not crossing them is a bad thing.
>>> >
>>> > There is nothing wrong with crossing them unless there is a specific
>> reason
>>> > not to, ie.: directional tires. But when there is any doubt, there is
>>> > nothing wrong with keeping the left tires on the left side and the
>>> > right
>>> > tires on the right side. Many automakers these days suggest that
>> rotating
>>> > tires is not necessary at all. If one has to ask, what is the correct
>> way to
>>> > rotate tires, this person can be told to keep them on the same side and
>>> > he'll get through his life just fine.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
>>> > news:vubtg1thi5ma6cbqlpq0n5l220kfipv041@4ax.com...
>>> >
>>> >>Tire manufacturers recommend crossing them.
>>> >>
>>> >>In message <G_CdnXNmV8M0bZDeRVn-2g@ez2.net>, "J Strickland" wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>Do not cross the tires. Keep the left tires on the left side and the
>> right
>>> >>>tires on the right side.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>> >>>news:68c0$430d3086$42a1cc8c$30871@FUSE.NET...
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>To clarify my original question I would be doing a 4 wheel rotation.
>>> >>>>The
>>> >>>>spare is a Wrangler ST and I would rather not have mismatched quality
>>> >>>>tires.
>>> >>>>http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>--
>>> >>>>.
>>> >>>>Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>>> >>>>2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>>> >>>>Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>>> >>>>Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>>> >>>>.
>>> >>>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> >>>>news:430D0BE5.FA42DC43@***.net...
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> That's a new one for me: http://www.fostertire.com/tcm_rttn.htm
>>> >>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>> >>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>Nathan Otis wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>I've always just rotated clockwise. I've been rotating my MTRs
>>> >>>>>>clockwise
>>> >>>>>>since the day I got 'em and I've got over 35K on 'em... No sign of
>>> >>>>>>seperation.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>YMMV (HAHA!!! That's a joke)
>>> >>>>>>n.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jerry Bransford
>>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>
>>
>
08-29-2005, 11:34 PM
#68
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Tire Rotation
In message <s5-dnQD-p5Ko047eRVn-oQ@ez2.net>, "J Strickland" wrote:
>I'm not suggesting that cross rotating the tires is a bad idea, I'm
>suggesting it is unnecessary. If you WANT to cross rotate, then fine, put
>yourself through the extra work.
Extra work? A 4 tire rotation involves moving 4 tires, crossing or not.
> But if you don't know if you need to cross
>rotate, the answer is a resounding NO, you do not need to cross rotate. You
>can safely swap the front and rear tires and keep them on the same side.
>
>As an aside,
>Most cars these days have that donut-spare that is not meant to be included
>in the tire rotation scheme, so pulling the tire from the trunk every few
>months and getting it some road time isn't necessary or even desirable.
>
>
>
>
>
>"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
>news:430f8f11_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>I have rotated my radial tires in the following 5-tire rotation pattern for
>> about 15 years, with absolutely NO problems:
>>
>> spare to RR
>> RR to RF
>> RF to LR
>> LR to LF
>> LF to spare
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:fcJPe.5162$ct5.1103@fed1read04...
>>> The first two brands I checked, BFG and Michelin, still recommends
>>> cross-rotating their tires. They even give a cool little animation of
>>> how to rotate tires at http://www.michelinman.com/care/tip2.html with
>>> BFG having a similar animation.
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> J Strickland wrote:
>>> > Most of them do not recommend that anymore. And none of them suggest
>> that
>>> > not crossing them is a bad thing.
>>> >
>>> > There is nothing wrong with crossing them unless there is a specific
>> reason
>>> > not to, ie.: directional tires. But when there is any doubt, there is
>>> > nothing wrong with keeping the left tires on the left side and the
>>> > right
>>> > tires on the right side. Many automakers these days suggest that
>> rotating
>>> > tires is not necessary at all. If one has to ask, what is the correct
>> way to
>>> > rotate tires, this person can be told to keep them on the same side and
>>> > he'll get through his life just fine.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
>>> > news:vubtg1thi5ma6cbqlpq0n5l220kfipv041@4ax.com...
>>> >
>>> >>Tire manufacturers recommend crossing them.
>>> >>
>>> >>In message <G_CdnXNmV8M0bZDeRVn-2g@ez2.net>, "J Strickland" wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>Do not cross the tires. Keep the left tires on the left side and the
>> right
>>> >>>tires on the right side.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>> >>>news:68c0$430d3086$42a1cc8c$30871@FUSE.NET...
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>To clarify my original question I would be doing a 4 wheel rotation.
>>> >>>>The
>>> >>>>spare is a Wrangler ST and I would rather not have mismatched quality
>>> >>>>tires.
>>> >>>>http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>--
>>> >>>>.
>>> >>>>Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>>> >>>>2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>>> >>>>Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>>> >>>>Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>>> >>>>.
>>> >>>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> >>>>news:430D0BE5.FA42DC43@***.net...
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> That's a new one for me: http://www.fostertire.com/tcm_rttn.htm
>>> >>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>> >>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>Nathan Otis wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>I've always just rotated clockwise. I've been rotating my MTRs
>>> >>>>>>clockwise
>>> >>>>>>since the day I got 'em and I've got over 35K on 'em... No sign of
>>> >>>>>>seperation.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>YMMV (HAHA!!! That's a joke)
>>> >>>>>>n.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jerry Bransford
>>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>
>>
>
>I'm not suggesting that cross rotating the tires is a bad idea, I'm
>suggesting it is unnecessary. If you WANT to cross rotate, then fine, put
>yourself through the extra work.
Extra work? A 4 tire rotation involves moving 4 tires, crossing or not.
> But if you don't know if you need to cross
>rotate, the answer is a resounding NO, you do not need to cross rotate. You
>can safely swap the front and rear tires and keep them on the same side.
>
>As an aside,
>Most cars these days have that donut-spare that is not meant to be included
>in the tire rotation scheme, so pulling the tire from the trunk every few
>months and getting it some road time isn't necessary or even desirable.
>
>
>
>
>
>"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
>news:430f8f11_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>I have rotated my radial tires in the following 5-tire rotation pattern for
>> about 15 years, with absolutely NO problems:
>>
>> spare to RR
>> RR to RF
>> RF to LR
>> LR to LF
>> LF to spare
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:fcJPe.5162$ct5.1103@fed1read04...
>>> The first two brands I checked, BFG and Michelin, still recommends
>>> cross-rotating their tires. They even give a cool little animation of
>>> how to rotate tires at http://www.michelinman.com/care/tip2.html with
>>> BFG having a similar animation.
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> J Strickland wrote:
>>> > Most of them do not recommend that anymore. And none of them suggest
>> that
>>> > not crossing them is a bad thing.
>>> >
>>> > There is nothing wrong with crossing them unless there is a specific
>> reason
>>> > not to, ie.: directional tires. But when there is any doubt, there is
>>> > nothing wrong with keeping the left tires on the left side and the
>>> > right
>>> > tires on the right side. Many automakers these days suggest that
>> rotating
>>> > tires is not necessary at all. If one has to ask, what is the correct
>> way to
>>> > rotate tires, this person can be told to keep them on the same side and
>>> > he'll get through his life just fine.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
>>> > news:vubtg1thi5ma6cbqlpq0n5l220kfipv041@4ax.com...
>>> >
>>> >>Tire manufacturers recommend crossing them.
>>> >>
>>> >>In message <G_CdnXNmV8M0bZDeRVn-2g@ez2.net>, "J Strickland" wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>Do not cross the tires. Keep the left tires on the left side and the
>> right
>>> >>>tires on the right side.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>> >>>news:68c0$430d3086$42a1cc8c$30871@FUSE.NET...
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>To clarify my original question I would be doing a 4 wheel rotation.
>>> >>>>The
>>> >>>>spare is a Wrangler ST and I would rather not have mismatched quality
>>> >>>>tires.
>>> >>>>http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>--
>>> >>>>.
>>> >>>>Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>>> >>>>2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>>> >>>>Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>>> >>>>Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>>> >>>>.
>>> >>>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> >>>>news:430D0BE5.FA42DC43@***.net...
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> That's a new one for me: http://www.fostertire.com/tcm_rttn.htm
>>> >>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>> >>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>Nathan Otis wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>I've always just rotated clockwise. I've been rotating my MTRs
>>> >>>>>>clockwise
>>> >>>>>>since the day I got 'em and I've got over 35K on 'em... No sign of
>>> >>>>>>seperation.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>YMMV (HAHA!!! That's a joke)
>>> >>>>>>n.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jerry Bransford
>>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>
>>
>
08-29-2005, 11:34 PM
#69
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Tire Rotation
In message <s5-dnQD-p5Ko047eRVn-oQ@ez2.net>, "J Strickland" wrote:
>I'm not suggesting that cross rotating the tires is a bad idea, I'm
>suggesting it is unnecessary. If you WANT to cross rotate, then fine, put
>yourself through the extra work.
Extra work? A 4 tire rotation involves moving 4 tires, crossing or not.
> But if you don't know if you need to cross
>rotate, the answer is a resounding NO, you do not need to cross rotate. You
>can safely swap the front and rear tires and keep them on the same side.
>
>As an aside,
>Most cars these days have that donut-spare that is not meant to be included
>in the tire rotation scheme, so pulling the tire from the trunk every few
>months and getting it some road time isn't necessary or even desirable.
>
>
>
>
>
>"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
>news:430f8f11_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>I have rotated my radial tires in the following 5-tire rotation pattern for
>> about 15 years, with absolutely NO problems:
>>
>> spare to RR
>> RR to RF
>> RF to LR
>> LR to LF
>> LF to spare
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:fcJPe.5162$ct5.1103@fed1read04...
>>> The first two brands I checked, BFG and Michelin, still recommends
>>> cross-rotating their tires. They even give a cool little animation of
>>> how to rotate tires at http://www.michelinman.com/care/tip2.html with
>>> BFG having a similar animation.
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> J Strickland wrote:
>>> > Most of them do not recommend that anymore. And none of them suggest
>> that
>>> > not crossing them is a bad thing.
>>> >
>>> > There is nothing wrong with crossing them unless there is a specific
>> reason
>>> > not to, ie.: directional tires. But when there is any doubt, there is
>>> > nothing wrong with keeping the left tires on the left side and the
>>> > right
>>> > tires on the right side. Many automakers these days suggest that
>> rotating
>>> > tires is not necessary at all. If one has to ask, what is the correct
>> way to
>>> > rotate tires, this person can be told to keep them on the same side and
>>> > he'll get through his life just fine.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
>>> > news:vubtg1thi5ma6cbqlpq0n5l220kfipv041@4ax.com...
>>> >
>>> >>Tire manufacturers recommend crossing them.
>>> >>
>>> >>In message <G_CdnXNmV8M0bZDeRVn-2g@ez2.net>, "J Strickland" wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>Do not cross the tires. Keep the left tires on the left side and the
>> right
>>> >>>tires on the right side.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>> >>>news:68c0$430d3086$42a1cc8c$30871@FUSE.NET...
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>To clarify my original question I would be doing a 4 wheel rotation.
>>> >>>>The
>>> >>>>spare is a Wrangler ST and I would rather not have mismatched quality
>>> >>>>tires.
>>> >>>>http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>--
>>> >>>>.
>>> >>>>Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>>> >>>>2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>>> >>>>Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>>> >>>>Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>>> >>>>.
>>> >>>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> >>>>news:430D0BE5.FA42DC43@***.net...
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> That's a new one for me: http://www.fostertire.com/tcm_rttn.htm
>>> >>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>> >>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>Nathan Otis wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>I've always just rotated clockwise. I've been rotating my MTRs
>>> >>>>>>clockwise
>>> >>>>>>since the day I got 'em and I've got over 35K on 'em... No sign of
>>> >>>>>>seperation.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>YMMV (HAHA!!! That's a joke)
>>> >>>>>>n.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jerry Bransford
>>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>
>>
>
>I'm not suggesting that cross rotating the tires is a bad idea, I'm
>suggesting it is unnecessary. If you WANT to cross rotate, then fine, put
>yourself through the extra work.
Extra work? A 4 tire rotation involves moving 4 tires, crossing or not.
> But if you don't know if you need to cross
>rotate, the answer is a resounding NO, you do not need to cross rotate. You
>can safely swap the front and rear tires and keep them on the same side.
>
>As an aside,
>Most cars these days have that donut-spare that is not meant to be included
>in the tire rotation scheme, so pulling the tire from the trunk every few
>months and getting it some road time isn't necessary or even desirable.
>
>
>
>
>
>"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
>news:430f8f11_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>I have rotated my radial tires in the following 5-tire rotation pattern for
>> about 15 years, with absolutely NO problems:
>>
>> spare to RR
>> RR to RF
>> RF to LR
>> LR to LF
>> LF to spare
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:fcJPe.5162$ct5.1103@fed1read04...
>>> The first two brands I checked, BFG and Michelin, still recommends
>>> cross-rotating their tires. They even give a cool little animation of
>>> how to rotate tires at http://www.michelinman.com/care/tip2.html with
>>> BFG having a similar animation.
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> J Strickland wrote:
>>> > Most of them do not recommend that anymore. And none of them suggest
>> that
>>> > not crossing them is a bad thing.
>>> >
>>> > There is nothing wrong with crossing them unless there is a specific
>> reason
>>> > not to, ie.: directional tires. But when there is any doubt, there is
>>> > nothing wrong with keeping the left tires on the left side and the
>>> > right
>>> > tires on the right side. Many automakers these days suggest that
>> rotating
>>> > tires is not necessary at all. If one has to ask, what is the correct
>> way to
>>> > rotate tires, this person can be told to keep them on the same side and
>>> > he'll get through his life just fine.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
>>> > news:vubtg1thi5ma6cbqlpq0n5l220kfipv041@4ax.com...
>>> >
>>> >>Tire manufacturers recommend crossing them.
>>> >>
>>> >>In message <G_CdnXNmV8M0bZDeRVn-2g@ez2.net>, "J Strickland" wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>Do not cross the tires. Keep the left tires on the left side and the
>> right
>>> >>>tires on the right side.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>> >>>news:68c0$430d3086$42a1cc8c$30871@FUSE.NET...
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>To clarify my original question I would be doing a 4 wheel rotation.
>>> >>>>The
>>> >>>>spare is a Wrangler ST and I would rather not have mismatched quality
>>> >>>>tires.
>>> >>>>http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>--
>>> >>>>.
>>> >>>>Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>>> >>>>2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>>> >>>>Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>>> >>>>Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>>> >>>>.
>>> >>>>"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> >>>>news:430D0BE5.FA42DC43@***.net...
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> That's a new one for me: http://www.fostertire.com/tcm_rttn.htm
>>> >>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>> >>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>Nathan Otis wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>I've always just rotated clockwise. I've been rotating my MTRs
>>> >>>>>>clockwise
>>> >>>>>>since the day I got 'em and I've got over 35K on 'em... No sign of
>>> >>>>>>seperation.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>YMMV (HAHA!!! That's a joke)
>>> >>>>>>n.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jerry Bransford
>>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>
>>
>
08-30-2005, 01:54 AM
#70
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Tire Rotation
Maybe he has only one floor jack.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
bllsht wrote:
>
> Extra work? A 4 tire rotation involves moving 4 tires, crossing or not.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
bllsht wrote:
>
> Extra work? A 4 tire rotation involves moving 4 tires, crossing or not.
