Re: Rear brakes are backwards?
#11
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Re: Rear brakes are backwards?
Hi John,
It's part of an rear wheel anti-locking system:
http://www.----------.com/88JeepBrakeParts.pdf
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
attnews wrote:
>
> My '87 comanche long bed's brake proportioning valve was missing its link
> for years...finally replaced it, but still have almost no braking from rear
> wheels. Infact, can't even get them to lock up on gravel or ice. Thought
> about by-passing the valve, but wondered what is involved....Do you end up
> with too much braking in back...which could cause skids...??
It's part of an rear wheel anti-locking system:
http://www.----------.com/88JeepBrakeParts.pdf
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
attnews wrote:
>
> My '87 comanche long bed's brake proportioning valve was missing its link
> for years...finally replaced it, but still have almost no braking from rear
> wheels. Infact, can't even get them to lock up on gravel or ice. Thought
> about by-passing the valve, but wondered what is involved....Do you end up
> with too much braking in back...which could cause skids...??
#12
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Posts: n/a
Re: Rear brakes are backwards?
Hi John,
It's part of an rear wheel anti-locking system:
http://www.----------.com/88JeepBrakeParts.pdf
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
attnews wrote:
>
> My '87 comanche long bed's brake proportioning valve was missing its link
> for years...finally replaced it, but still have almost no braking from rear
> wheels. Infact, can't even get them to lock up on gravel or ice. Thought
> about by-passing the valve, but wondered what is involved....Do you end up
> with too much braking in back...which could cause skids...??
It's part of an rear wheel anti-locking system:
http://www.----------.com/88JeepBrakeParts.pdf
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
attnews wrote:
>
> My '87 comanche long bed's brake proportioning valve was missing its link
> for years...finally replaced it, but still have almost no braking from rear
> wheels. Infact, can't even get them to lock up on gravel or ice. Thought
> about by-passing the valve, but wondered what is involved....Do you end up
> with too much braking in back...which could cause skids...??
#13
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Posts: n/a
Re: Rear brakes are backwards?
Hi John,
It's part of an rear wheel anti-locking system:
http://www.----------.com/88JeepBrakeParts.pdf
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
attnews wrote:
>
> My '87 comanche long bed's brake proportioning valve was missing its link
> for years...finally replaced it, but still have almost no braking from rear
> wheels. Infact, can't even get them to lock up on gravel or ice. Thought
> about by-passing the valve, but wondered what is involved....Do you end up
> with too much braking in back...which could cause skids...??
It's part of an rear wheel anti-locking system:
http://www.----------.com/88JeepBrakeParts.pdf
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
attnews wrote:
>
> My '87 comanche long bed's brake proportioning valve was missing its link
> for years...finally replaced it, but still have almost no braking from rear
> wheels. Infact, can't even get them to lock up on gravel or ice. Thought
> about by-passing the valve, but wondered what is involved....Do you end up
> with too much braking in back...which could cause skids...??
#14
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Re: Rear brakes are backwards?
Left side of Dana 44:
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axl...2/DSCN0908.jpg
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Stephen,
> You still didn't mention what you're working on, but you wrote "bed
> height sensor" means it's probably a Comanche. The backing plate have
> two access holes to adjust the star, meaning they are the same for both
> sides, but it's easily possible to reverse everything else:
> http://www.----------.com/90RbrakeParts.pdf Some things to know are the
> longer shoe, and adjusting cable and lever always go towards the back
> side of the car.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axl...2/DSCN0908.jpg
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Stephen,
> You still didn't mention what you're working on, but you wrote "bed
> height sensor" means it's probably a Comanche. The backing plate have
> two access holes to adjust the star, meaning they are the same for both
> sides, but it's easily possible to reverse everything else:
> http://www.----------.com/90RbrakeParts.pdf Some things to know are the
> longer shoe, and adjusting cable and lever always go towards the back
> side of the car.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
#15
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Posts: n/a
Re: Rear brakes are backwards?
Left side of Dana 44:
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axl...2/DSCN0908.jpg
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Stephen,
> You still didn't mention what you're working on, but you wrote "bed
> height sensor" means it's probably a Comanche. The backing plate have
> two access holes to adjust the star, meaning they are the same for both
> sides, but it's easily possible to reverse everything else:
> http://www.----------.com/90RbrakeParts.pdf Some things to know are the
> longer shoe, and adjusting cable and lever always go towards the back
> side of the car.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axl...2/DSCN0908.jpg
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Stephen,
> You still didn't mention what you're working on, but you wrote "bed
> height sensor" means it's probably a Comanche. The backing plate have
> two access holes to adjust the star, meaning they are the same for both
> sides, but it's easily possible to reverse everything else:
> http://www.----------.com/90RbrakeParts.pdf Some things to know are the
> longer shoe, and adjusting cable and lever always go towards the back
> side of the car.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
#16
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Re: Rear brakes are backwards?
Left side of Dana 44:
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axl...2/DSCN0908.jpg
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Stephen,
> You still didn't mention what you're working on, but you wrote "bed
> height sensor" means it's probably a Comanche. The backing plate have
> two access holes to adjust the star, meaning they are the same for both
> sides, but it's easily possible to reverse everything else:
> http://www.----------.com/90RbrakeParts.pdf Some things to know are the
> longer shoe, and adjusting cable and lever always go towards the back
> side of the car.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axl...2/DSCN0908.jpg
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Stephen,
> You still didn't mention what you're working on, but you wrote "bed
> height sensor" means it's probably a Comanche. The backing plate have
> two access holes to adjust the star, meaning they are the same for both
> sides, but it's easily possible to reverse everything else:
> http://www.----------.com/90RbrakeParts.pdf Some things to know are the
> longer shoe, and adjusting cable and lever always go towards the back
> side of the car.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
#17
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Re: Rear brakes are backwards?
I bought this vehicle about 10 months ago. 155,000 mi on the odometer. I
was told that the brakes were fairly new. They are about the only thing that
worked well, but it was easy to lock up the rears on anything other than
perfectly dry pavement. I found that someone had installed air shocks on the
rear and completely replumbed the brake lines bypassing the bed height
sensing valve. It has been an almost almost daily driver for my son to go 3
miles to work and back. About two months ago the left wheel cylinder was
leaking so I undertook the brake job now under discussion. When I got the
brakes apart there was a parking brake lever on the left (on the leading
shoe) but none on the right. Neither strut (bar) was present. The adjusting
screws were present but frozen up. There were no self-adjuster levers or
cables. I got the brakes back together without hooking up the parking brake
cables which are toast anyway. Funny thing, the brakes seem very well
proportioned now with no locking up noticed on wet pavement. Haven't had any
ice yet in Ohio.
"attnews" <john .n. allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:fMW7d.479593$OB3.14554@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> My '87 comanche long bed's brake proportioning valve was missing its link
> for years...finally replaced it, but still have almost no braking from
> rear
> wheels. Infact, can't even get them to lock up on gravel or ice. Thought
> about by-passing the valve, but wondered what is involved....Do you end up
> with too much braking in back...which could cause skids...??
> "Stephen R. Conrad" <sconrad@telecommunity.to> wrote in message
> news:2sag7iF1guukkU2@uni-berlin.de...
>> If that is true, then mine are incorrect. I have over the years come to
>> be
>> suspicious of "always" and other such absolutes :)
>>
>> My goal is to get the best working brakes possible. The brake shop wanted
>> $700 to install new drums, shoes and wheel cylinders. I did the job for
>> $150 in parts. The brakes work well now, except for the disconnected
> parking
>> brake and the bypassed bed height sensing valve. I found several
>> interior
>> parts missing and would like to approximate the correct configuration as
>> closely as possible.
>>
>> Thanks again for your help.
>>
>> From: "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net>
>> Subject: Re: Rear brakes are backwards?
>> Date: Saturday, October 02, 2004 10:53 PM
>>
>> What exactly are you working on? Emergency brake cables always pull
>> in as straight a line as possible.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> "Stephen R. Conrad" wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks for your help.
>> >
>> > I'm not exactly sure how to respond to this without the ability to post
> a
>> > picture or drawing.
>> >
>> > My brakes have several different looking components compared to photo's
> in
>> > the article you referenced. These are probably unimportant details.
>> > But,
>> > the
>> > rear parking brake cables from the equalizer to the drum appear to be
> the
>> > proper length with spring type hangers off the frame to enter the drums
>> > from
>> > the rear.
>> >
>> > The current cables are rusted and need to be replaced. Curious, that, I
>> > don't find a different reference # at the autoparts web sites for long
> bed
>> > or short bed.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
was told that the brakes were fairly new. They are about the only thing that
worked well, but it was easy to lock up the rears on anything other than
perfectly dry pavement. I found that someone had installed air shocks on the
rear and completely replumbed the brake lines bypassing the bed height
sensing valve. It has been an almost almost daily driver for my son to go 3
miles to work and back. About two months ago the left wheel cylinder was
leaking so I undertook the brake job now under discussion. When I got the
brakes apart there was a parking brake lever on the left (on the leading
shoe) but none on the right. Neither strut (bar) was present. The adjusting
screws were present but frozen up. There were no self-adjuster levers or
cables. I got the brakes back together without hooking up the parking brake
cables which are toast anyway. Funny thing, the brakes seem very well
proportioned now with no locking up noticed on wet pavement. Haven't had any
ice yet in Ohio.
"attnews" <john .n. allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:fMW7d.479593$OB3.14554@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> My '87 comanche long bed's brake proportioning valve was missing its link
> for years...finally replaced it, but still have almost no braking from
> rear
> wheels. Infact, can't even get them to lock up on gravel or ice. Thought
> about by-passing the valve, but wondered what is involved....Do you end up
> with too much braking in back...which could cause skids...??
> "Stephen R. Conrad" <sconrad@telecommunity.to> wrote in message
> news:2sag7iF1guukkU2@uni-berlin.de...
>> If that is true, then mine are incorrect. I have over the years come to
>> be
>> suspicious of "always" and other such absolutes :)
>>
>> My goal is to get the best working brakes possible. The brake shop wanted
>> $700 to install new drums, shoes and wheel cylinders. I did the job for
>> $150 in parts. The brakes work well now, except for the disconnected
> parking
>> brake and the bypassed bed height sensing valve. I found several
>> interior
>> parts missing and would like to approximate the correct configuration as
>> closely as possible.
>>
>> Thanks again for your help.
>>
>> From: "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net>
>> Subject: Re: Rear brakes are backwards?
>> Date: Saturday, October 02, 2004 10:53 PM
>>
>> What exactly are you working on? Emergency brake cables always pull
>> in as straight a line as possible.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> "Stephen R. Conrad" wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks for your help.
>> >
>> > I'm not exactly sure how to respond to this without the ability to post
> a
>> > picture or drawing.
>> >
>> > My brakes have several different looking components compared to photo's
> in
>> > the article you referenced. These are probably unimportant details.
>> > But,
>> > the
>> > rear parking brake cables from the equalizer to the drum appear to be
> the
>> > proper length with spring type hangers off the frame to enter the drums
>> > from
>> > the rear.
>> >
>> > The current cables are rusted and need to be replaced. Curious, that, I
>> > don't find a different reference # at the autoparts web sites for long
> bed
>> > or short bed.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
#18
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Re: Rear brakes are backwards?
I bought this vehicle about 10 months ago. 155,000 mi on the odometer. I
was told that the brakes were fairly new. They are about the only thing that
worked well, but it was easy to lock up the rears on anything other than
perfectly dry pavement. I found that someone had installed air shocks on the
rear and completely replumbed the brake lines bypassing the bed height
sensing valve. It has been an almost almost daily driver for my son to go 3
miles to work and back. About two months ago the left wheel cylinder was
leaking so I undertook the brake job now under discussion. When I got the
brakes apart there was a parking brake lever on the left (on the leading
shoe) but none on the right. Neither strut (bar) was present. The adjusting
screws were present but frozen up. There were no self-adjuster levers or
cables. I got the brakes back together without hooking up the parking brake
cables which are toast anyway. Funny thing, the brakes seem very well
proportioned now with no locking up noticed on wet pavement. Haven't had any
ice yet in Ohio.
"attnews" <john .n. allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:fMW7d.479593$OB3.14554@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> My '87 comanche long bed's brake proportioning valve was missing its link
> for years...finally replaced it, but still have almost no braking from
> rear
> wheels. Infact, can't even get them to lock up on gravel or ice. Thought
> about by-passing the valve, but wondered what is involved....Do you end up
> with too much braking in back...which could cause skids...??
> "Stephen R. Conrad" <sconrad@telecommunity.to> wrote in message
> news:2sag7iF1guukkU2@uni-berlin.de...
>> If that is true, then mine are incorrect. I have over the years come to
>> be
>> suspicious of "always" and other such absolutes :)
>>
>> My goal is to get the best working brakes possible. The brake shop wanted
>> $700 to install new drums, shoes and wheel cylinders. I did the job for
>> $150 in parts. The brakes work well now, except for the disconnected
> parking
>> brake and the bypassed bed height sensing valve. I found several
>> interior
>> parts missing and would like to approximate the correct configuration as
>> closely as possible.
>>
>> Thanks again for your help.
>>
>> From: "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net>
>> Subject: Re: Rear brakes are backwards?
>> Date: Saturday, October 02, 2004 10:53 PM
>>
>> What exactly are you working on? Emergency brake cables always pull
>> in as straight a line as possible.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> "Stephen R. Conrad" wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks for your help.
>> >
>> > I'm not exactly sure how to respond to this without the ability to post
> a
>> > picture or drawing.
>> >
>> > My brakes have several different looking components compared to photo's
> in
>> > the article you referenced. These are probably unimportant details.
>> > But,
>> > the
>> > rear parking brake cables from the equalizer to the drum appear to be
> the
>> > proper length with spring type hangers off the frame to enter the drums
>> > from
>> > the rear.
>> >
>> > The current cables are rusted and need to be replaced. Curious, that, I
>> > don't find a different reference # at the autoparts web sites for long
> bed
>> > or short bed.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
was told that the brakes were fairly new. They are about the only thing that
worked well, but it was easy to lock up the rears on anything other than
perfectly dry pavement. I found that someone had installed air shocks on the
rear and completely replumbed the brake lines bypassing the bed height
sensing valve. It has been an almost almost daily driver for my son to go 3
miles to work and back. About two months ago the left wheel cylinder was
leaking so I undertook the brake job now under discussion. When I got the
brakes apart there was a parking brake lever on the left (on the leading
shoe) but none on the right. Neither strut (bar) was present. The adjusting
screws were present but frozen up. There were no self-adjuster levers or
cables. I got the brakes back together without hooking up the parking brake
cables which are toast anyway. Funny thing, the brakes seem very well
proportioned now with no locking up noticed on wet pavement. Haven't had any
ice yet in Ohio.
"attnews" <john .n. allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:fMW7d.479593$OB3.14554@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> My '87 comanche long bed's brake proportioning valve was missing its link
> for years...finally replaced it, but still have almost no braking from
> rear
> wheels. Infact, can't even get them to lock up on gravel or ice. Thought
> about by-passing the valve, but wondered what is involved....Do you end up
> with too much braking in back...which could cause skids...??
> "Stephen R. Conrad" <sconrad@telecommunity.to> wrote in message
> news:2sag7iF1guukkU2@uni-berlin.de...
>> If that is true, then mine are incorrect. I have over the years come to
>> be
>> suspicious of "always" and other such absolutes :)
>>
>> My goal is to get the best working brakes possible. The brake shop wanted
>> $700 to install new drums, shoes and wheel cylinders. I did the job for
>> $150 in parts. The brakes work well now, except for the disconnected
> parking
>> brake and the bypassed bed height sensing valve. I found several
>> interior
>> parts missing and would like to approximate the correct configuration as
>> closely as possible.
>>
>> Thanks again for your help.
>>
>> From: "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net>
>> Subject: Re: Rear brakes are backwards?
>> Date: Saturday, October 02, 2004 10:53 PM
>>
>> What exactly are you working on? Emergency brake cables always pull
>> in as straight a line as possible.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> "Stephen R. Conrad" wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks for your help.
>> >
>> > I'm not exactly sure how to respond to this without the ability to post
> a
>> > picture or drawing.
>> >
>> > My brakes have several different looking components compared to photo's
> in
>> > the article you referenced. These are probably unimportant details.
>> > But,
>> > the
>> > rear parking brake cables from the equalizer to the drum appear to be
> the
>> > proper length with spring type hangers off the frame to enter the drums
>> > from
>> > the rear.
>> >
>> > The current cables are rusted and need to be replaced. Curious, that, I
>> > don't find a different reference # at the autoparts web sites for long
> bed
>> > or short bed.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
#19
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Posts: n/a
Re: Rear brakes are backwards?
I bought this vehicle about 10 months ago. 155,000 mi on the odometer. I
was told that the brakes were fairly new. They are about the only thing that
worked well, but it was easy to lock up the rears on anything other than
perfectly dry pavement. I found that someone had installed air shocks on the
rear and completely replumbed the brake lines bypassing the bed height
sensing valve. It has been an almost almost daily driver for my son to go 3
miles to work and back. About two months ago the left wheel cylinder was
leaking so I undertook the brake job now under discussion. When I got the
brakes apart there was a parking brake lever on the left (on the leading
shoe) but none on the right. Neither strut (bar) was present. The adjusting
screws were present but frozen up. There were no self-adjuster levers or
cables. I got the brakes back together without hooking up the parking brake
cables which are toast anyway. Funny thing, the brakes seem very well
proportioned now with no locking up noticed on wet pavement. Haven't had any
ice yet in Ohio.
"attnews" <john .n. allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:fMW7d.479593$OB3.14554@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> My '87 comanche long bed's brake proportioning valve was missing its link
> for years...finally replaced it, but still have almost no braking from
> rear
> wheels. Infact, can't even get them to lock up on gravel or ice. Thought
> about by-passing the valve, but wondered what is involved....Do you end up
> with too much braking in back...which could cause skids...??
> "Stephen R. Conrad" <sconrad@telecommunity.to> wrote in message
> news:2sag7iF1guukkU2@uni-berlin.de...
>> If that is true, then mine are incorrect. I have over the years come to
>> be
>> suspicious of "always" and other such absolutes :)
>>
>> My goal is to get the best working brakes possible. The brake shop wanted
>> $700 to install new drums, shoes and wheel cylinders. I did the job for
>> $150 in parts. The brakes work well now, except for the disconnected
> parking
>> brake and the bypassed bed height sensing valve. I found several
>> interior
>> parts missing and would like to approximate the correct configuration as
>> closely as possible.
>>
>> Thanks again for your help.
>>
>> From: "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net>
>> Subject: Re: Rear brakes are backwards?
>> Date: Saturday, October 02, 2004 10:53 PM
>>
>> What exactly are you working on? Emergency brake cables always pull
>> in as straight a line as possible.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> "Stephen R. Conrad" wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks for your help.
>> >
>> > I'm not exactly sure how to respond to this without the ability to post
> a
>> > picture or drawing.
>> >
>> > My brakes have several different looking components compared to photo's
> in
>> > the article you referenced. These are probably unimportant details.
>> > But,
>> > the
>> > rear parking brake cables from the equalizer to the drum appear to be
> the
>> > proper length with spring type hangers off the frame to enter the drums
>> > from
>> > the rear.
>> >
>> > The current cables are rusted and need to be replaced. Curious, that, I
>> > don't find a different reference # at the autoparts web sites for long
> bed
>> > or short bed.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
was told that the brakes were fairly new. They are about the only thing that
worked well, but it was easy to lock up the rears on anything other than
perfectly dry pavement. I found that someone had installed air shocks on the
rear and completely replumbed the brake lines bypassing the bed height
sensing valve. It has been an almost almost daily driver for my son to go 3
miles to work and back. About two months ago the left wheel cylinder was
leaking so I undertook the brake job now under discussion. When I got the
brakes apart there was a parking brake lever on the left (on the leading
shoe) but none on the right. Neither strut (bar) was present. The adjusting
screws were present but frozen up. There were no self-adjuster levers or
cables. I got the brakes back together without hooking up the parking brake
cables which are toast anyway. Funny thing, the brakes seem very well
proportioned now with no locking up noticed on wet pavement. Haven't had any
ice yet in Ohio.
"attnews" <john .n. allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:fMW7d.479593$OB3.14554@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> My '87 comanche long bed's brake proportioning valve was missing its link
> for years...finally replaced it, but still have almost no braking from
> rear
> wheels. Infact, can't even get them to lock up on gravel or ice. Thought
> about by-passing the valve, but wondered what is involved....Do you end up
> with too much braking in back...which could cause skids...??
> "Stephen R. Conrad" <sconrad@telecommunity.to> wrote in message
> news:2sag7iF1guukkU2@uni-berlin.de...
>> If that is true, then mine are incorrect. I have over the years come to
>> be
>> suspicious of "always" and other such absolutes :)
>>
>> My goal is to get the best working brakes possible. The brake shop wanted
>> $700 to install new drums, shoes and wheel cylinders. I did the job for
>> $150 in parts. The brakes work well now, except for the disconnected
> parking
>> brake and the bypassed bed height sensing valve. I found several
>> interior
>> parts missing and would like to approximate the correct configuration as
>> closely as possible.
>>
>> Thanks again for your help.
>>
>> From: "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net>
>> Subject: Re: Rear brakes are backwards?
>> Date: Saturday, October 02, 2004 10:53 PM
>>
>> What exactly are you working on? Emergency brake cables always pull
>> in as straight a line as possible.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> "Stephen R. Conrad" wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks for your help.
>> >
>> > I'm not exactly sure how to respond to this without the ability to post
> a
>> > picture or drawing.
>> >
>> > My brakes have several different looking components compared to photo's
> in
>> > the article you referenced. These are probably unimportant details.
>> > But,
>> > the
>> > rear parking brake cables from the equalizer to the drum appear to be
> the
>> > proper length with spring type hangers off the frame to enter the drums
>> > from
>> > the rear.
>> >
>> > The current cables are rusted and need to be replaced. Curious, that, I
>> > don't find a different reference # at the autoparts web sites for long
> bed
>> > or short bed.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Rear brakes are backwards?
If you do bypass it, find a straight, deserted road to try it out on -
then go hook it back up. That long, light weight rear end is gonna do
two things, both bad. It will try and come around to see where you
are going and it will lockup with very little effort. BTDT - forgot
to hook the arm back up and it was tied in the full load position.
There is an adjustment procedure in the FSM for that linkage. I've
got mine set pretty close so I can actually get the rear end to come
close to locking - close enough to leave visible marks on the pavement
- but only after the front end is leaving much darker marks and that's
with a healthy 230 pounds basically standing on the brake pedal and a
noticable load in the back. I'm not sure I could even get them to
squeal with the bed empty. The FSM seems to indicate that the "metric
ton" version with the D44 dif has larger brakes in the rear - which
would make sense as it has a considerably higher GVWR.
On Sun, 3 Oct 2004 17:36:11 UTC "attnews" <john .n.
allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> My '87 comanche long bed's brake proportioning valve was missing its link
> for years...finally replaced it, but still have almost no braking from rear
> wheels. Infact, can't even get them to lock up on gravel or ice. Thought
> about by-passing the valve, but wondered what is involved....Do you end up
> with too much braking in back...which could cause skids...??
> "Stephen R. Conrad" <sconrad@telecommunity.to> wrote in message
> news:2sag7iF1guukkU2@uni-berlin.de...
> > If that is true, then mine are incorrect. I have over the years come to be
> > suspicious of "always" and other such absolutes :)
> >
> > My goal is to get the best working brakes possible. The brake shop wanted
> > $700 to install new drums, shoes and wheel cylinders. I did the job for
> > $150 in parts. The brakes work well now, except for the disconnected
> parking
> > brake and the bypassed bed height sensing valve. I found several interior
> > parts missing and would like to approximate the correct configuration as
> > closely as possible.
> >
> > Thanks again for your help.
> >
> > From: "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net>
> > Subject: Re: Rear brakes are backwards?
> > Date: Saturday, October 02, 2004 10:53 PM
> >
> > What exactly are you working on? Emergency brake cables always pull
> > in as straight a line as possible.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "Stephen R. Conrad" wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help.
> > >
> > > I'm not exactly sure how to respond to this without the ability to post
> a
> > > picture or drawing.
> > >
> > > My brakes have several different looking components compared to photo's
> in
> > > the article you referenced. These are probably unimportant details. But,
> > > the
> > > rear parking brake cables from the equalizer to the drum appear to be
> the
> > > proper length with spring type hangers off the frame to enter the drums
> > > from
> > > the rear.
> > >
> > > The current cables are rusted and need to be replaced. Curious, that, I
> > > don't find a different reference # at the autoparts web sites for long
> bed
> > > or short bed.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
--
Will Honea
then go hook it back up. That long, light weight rear end is gonna do
two things, both bad. It will try and come around to see where you
are going and it will lockup with very little effort. BTDT - forgot
to hook the arm back up and it was tied in the full load position.
There is an adjustment procedure in the FSM for that linkage. I've
got mine set pretty close so I can actually get the rear end to come
close to locking - close enough to leave visible marks on the pavement
- but only after the front end is leaving much darker marks and that's
with a healthy 230 pounds basically standing on the brake pedal and a
noticable load in the back. I'm not sure I could even get them to
squeal with the bed empty. The FSM seems to indicate that the "metric
ton" version with the D44 dif has larger brakes in the rear - which
would make sense as it has a considerably higher GVWR.
On Sun, 3 Oct 2004 17:36:11 UTC "attnews" <john .n.
allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> My '87 comanche long bed's brake proportioning valve was missing its link
> for years...finally replaced it, but still have almost no braking from rear
> wheels. Infact, can't even get them to lock up on gravel or ice. Thought
> about by-passing the valve, but wondered what is involved....Do you end up
> with too much braking in back...which could cause skids...??
> "Stephen R. Conrad" <sconrad@telecommunity.to> wrote in message
> news:2sag7iF1guukkU2@uni-berlin.de...
> > If that is true, then mine are incorrect. I have over the years come to be
> > suspicious of "always" and other such absolutes :)
> >
> > My goal is to get the best working brakes possible. The brake shop wanted
> > $700 to install new drums, shoes and wheel cylinders. I did the job for
> > $150 in parts. The brakes work well now, except for the disconnected
> parking
> > brake and the bypassed bed height sensing valve. I found several interior
> > parts missing and would like to approximate the correct configuration as
> > closely as possible.
> >
> > Thanks again for your help.
> >
> > From: "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net>
> > Subject: Re: Rear brakes are backwards?
> > Date: Saturday, October 02, 2004 10:53 PM
> >
> > What exactly are you working on? Emergency brake cables always pull
> > in as straight a line as possible.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "Stephen R. Conrad" wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help.
> > >
> > > I'm not exactly sure how to respond to this without the ability to post
> a
> > > picture or drawing.
> > >
> > > My brakes have several different looking components compared to photo's
> in
> > > the article you referenced. These are probably unimportant details. But,
> > > the
> > > rear parking brake cables from the equalizer to the drum appear to be
> the
> > > proper length with spring type hangers off the frame to enter the drums
> > > from
> > > the rear.
> > >
> > > The current cables are rusted and need to be replaced. Curious, that, I
> > > don't find a different reference # at the autoparts web sites for long
> bed
> > > or short bed.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
--
Will Honea